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(Newser)   George Zimmerman's legal team has been digging up some less-than-flattering background information about Trayvon Martin-but one story that made the rounds Friday, turns out not to be true   (newser.com) divider line 41
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2013-06-03 04:24:42 PM  
4 votes:

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: You guys wouldn't be arguing like this if Trayvon Martin was a German Shepherd and George Zimmerman was a perfectly-cooked and seasoned, medium-rare rib eye steak!


thumbnails.hulu.com

HEY!  If George Zimmerman were made of Trayvon Martin, would you eat George Zimmerman!?  It's not rocket science!
Worried you might choose Mad Cow.

/stared at the sun with a pair of binoculars for over an hour
//friends call him whiskers
///HEY!
2013-06-03 02:00:28 PM  
4 votes:

AiryAnne: Tatsuma: Triple Oak: You can tell the defense is trending towards implausible white superiority,

He's not white when will farking idiots try to pretend that he is? For fark's sake this is a white guy?

[i.imgur.com image 640x360]

You know that media parody poster about Glocks? That's how this works. Anyone accused against a black man is white.

White (Ancestors from western Europe)
White (Parent from Mexico, Parent from Spain)
White (Asian who attends predominantly white school and is named Jeff)
White (One black parent, one white white parent and raised in a predominantly white neighborhood)
White (Not black)
White (Hispanic)
White (Jew accused of a crime and is named Jeff)


What do you have against Jeff?
2013-06-03 12:08:31 PM  
3 votes:

nekom: None of this is the slightest bit relevant to the case.   Was he a good person?  Did he smoke weed?  None of that matters.  The question is whether or not a self defense claim is valid.  It doesn't matter if he was a gangster or a choir boy.


Oh you and your crazy rational discourse!
2013-06-03 04:33:42 PM  
2 votes:

AngryDragon: ChuDogg: BojanglesPaladin: I think Zimmerman is to bolame here just as much as Martin, but yo9u seem to be arguing that Zimmerman following Martin gave Martin carte blanche to do whatever. Is that your position? Could you clarify?

Apparently you don't know the LAW and can't use simple LOGIC! If you somebody is following you and looking at you the wrong way you should absolutely have every right to defend yourself and attack them. Treyvon was standing HIS ground from some freaky white guy giving him the stink eye.  And Martin was unarmed so Zimmerman has no right to use his gun for self defense.   That's the LAW.  He shouldn't have been waving around menacing in the first place.  Zimmerman should have just taken his beating like a man if you lost the fight after looking at the wrong dude the wrong way. That's life.

You couldn't possibly have been wrong on any more of your points.  You cannot attack for being followed.  Your assailant being armed has NOTHING to to with self-defense legally, fear of death or great bodily harm does. There is no indication that Zimmerman had his firearm out before the final confrontation.  You condone someone aggressively attacking for "looking at the wrong dude the wrong way" but vilify reasonable self-defense?  I really hope you don't work for the legal system.


Actually I'm studying law, but focusing on Immigration law as the child of illegal immigrants my goal is to reduce our racist immigration and justice system.  Face the FACTS: Zimmerman is on trial, so that would tell me I am RIGHT and YOU are WONG! It is illegal to follow somebody and when you do you should expect to get beaten up!!! Otherwise you racist white might just find yourself on trial for murder. Check your privilege.
2013-06-03 04:03:29 PM  
2 votes:
You guys wouldn't be arguing like this if Trayvon Martin was a German Shepherd and George Zimmerman was a perfectly-cooked and seasoned, medium-rare rib eye steak!
2013-06-03 02:38:55 PM  
2 votes:
Zmmerman's background should have some bearing as well.

For instance, based on his past, there is no way that Zimmerman initiated a violent confrontation with Trayvon Martin. History indicates he only perpetrates violence against women.
2013-06-03 02:10:29 PM  
2 votes:

Mrtraveler01: George Zimmerman is living proof on why I don't trust vigilantes with my life.


At the very least, I wouldn't trust them to give you oral sex

1.bp.blogspot.com
2013-06-03 01:53:50 PM  
2 votes:
I fail to understand what any of this matters.  It's not like Zimmerman new anything about this guy the night he CHASED him down and MURDERED him for no reason.  It reminds me of the Naked Gun joke when he was being awarded for killing his 100th drug dealer and he said "in all fairness the last two I happened to run over with my car, we realized he was a drug dealer after the fact."
2013-06-04 01:41:59 AM  
1 votes:
And the Chinese Jewish Redneck judge has it:
3 for the prosecutions emotional pleadings to convict.
7 for the defense's facts on file, and of course the 2 point loss for failing to deploy mud in the proper direction.
Currently we favor Zim walks over the warm invitations of the torch and pitchfork crowd.

BETS?
There is a line in Vegas.
I'm in.
/FT
\FM
?
/FYT
2013-06-03 06:44:37 PM  
1 votes:

ChuDogg: soaboutthat: Why does Martin not get to stand his ground? Answer me that. He tried to break contact and was chased down. Why can't he defend himself?

What he doesn't realize is that "Assault" requires power + privilege. (edit: don't anybody throw dictionary definitions written by white men at me).  Treyvon Martin had neither wandering around his own neighborhood, and George Zimmerman knew that. Thus, regardless of who confronted whom they keep berating, Treyvon Martin really couldn't have assaulted him.  Zimmerman and every other whiteboy should recongize their historical status as oppressors when dealing with people of color.  If Treyvon Martin did indeed attack Zimmerman first, he was in no position to use "self defense" against some claimed "assault". It's ridiculous and offensive to all the true victims of assault which result from white people's prejudice against people of color world wide.


This is just beautiful, man.

I can't speak for every other whiteboy, but in my experience as a historical oppressor, people of color are fully capable of committing assaults.

In point of fact, in these United States, people of color commit a disproportionate number of assaults, and violent crimes generally, compared to people without color, and an even greater disproportion of crimes specifically against whites than vice versa. (That's a phrase meaning "the other way around," taken from a somewhat archaic language that was devised by white oppressors.)

Anyhoo, I'm off to exercise some privilege and read some Law for White People. The brown people of the world aren't going to oppress themselves, amiright?
2013-06-03 05:41:43 PM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Go back to Tumblr, you worthless internet sjw


Ah yes, we know what your country does with those worthless brown scum.

http://forward.com/articles/177828/israel-plans-to-deport--of-eritre a- immigrants/

Your status as a religious minority does not change the fact that you are, in fact, a white male. As a white male and historical oppressor of indigenous brown people worldwide, you really aren't in a position to tell anybody to just "shut up". We aren't shutting up this time. Your demographics are changing and soon us brown people (including palestinians) will be the decision makers across the entire world. The white rape and oppression of the planet and it's environment will come to end.  At that time YOU will be asked to assimilate and submit to the will of the majority.  Your day will end. You won't have a choice.

The bizarre obsession of George Zimmerman is only the beginning of the fear and anxiety that manifests among white males.  But that day will come soon my friend.  Look at the numbers and see for yourself. Even Palestinians outnumber Israelis now.
2013-06-03 05:40:34 PM  
1 votes:

ChuDogg: Lolbertarians who invent words like "statism" are are always white people i know who are racist.  Because before the state you were happy to enslave and oppress brown people all over the world, just like Zimmerman was excercising his "right" to oppress some brown person walking around his own neighborhood at night.  You hate the fact that the State now intervenes when things like job applications or seperate water fountains come up. You would be happy to go back to those "stateless days" when Martin would have been bagged up and tossed no questions asked.Keep living in fear white boys, your own demographics are changing and you won't have anywhere to "white flight' to anymore. I suggest you start being nice to the Treyvon Martins walking around you neighborhood because, yes, the STATE will arrest you when you chase down and murder a child in cold blood.


images.sodahead.com

Well played!


/Hot like under your collar
2013-06-03 05:31:01 PM  
1 votes:

soaboutthat: Why does Martin not get to stand his ground? Answer me that. He tried to break contact and was chased down. Why can't he defend himself?


What he doesn't realize is that "Assault" requires power + privilege. (edit: don't anybody throw dictionary definitions written by white men at me).  Treyvon Martin had neither wandering around his own neighborhood, and George Zimmerman knew that. Thus, regardless of who confronted whom they keep berating, Treyvon Martin really couldn't have assaulted him.  Zimmerman and every other whiteboy should recongize their historical status as oppressors when dealing with people of color.  If Treyvon Martin did indeed attack Zimmerman first, he was in no position to use "self defense" against some claimed "assault". It's ridiculous and offensive to all the true victims of assault which result from white people's prejudice against people of color world wide.
2013-06-03 05:18:56 PM  
1 votes:

kirlian: Y'know, if you guys could arrange to have these threads / discussions at Fark meetups, I'd definitely start going.

/Been a while since I've seen a good ol' bar fight.


"Stop following me!"

"But I'm not touching you! I'm not touching you!"

"Why are you HITTING YOURSELF!?!?!"
2013-06-03 05:16:33 PM  
1 votes:
When I'm on patrol in my neighborhood, I gauge my level of suspicion on others' efforts to evade me.

So far I've found the young, pretty females to be the most suspicious.

/not a cop
2013-06-03 05:14:36 PM  
1 votes:
ChuDogg

Keep living in fear white boys, your own demographics are changing and you won't have anywhere to "white flight' to anymore.

We're the ones who made spaceships. Your low-rider zoot-boosters simply don't have the range to follow us.
2013-06-03 04:47:38 PM  
1 votes:
The MEDIA says that this guy is "white hispanic", but i've never heard of that term so it doesn't exist.

I've heard that the "Census Bureau" has been recording this "white hispanic" information for over 40 years, but I've never heard of this "Census Bureau".

I've heard that there's even a wikipedia article where they explain what a white hispanic is, but I only read conservapedia.

I've also heard that there's some country called "Argentina" that is filled with them, but the only countries I know are U, S, and A.

I've heard that there's some guy named Emilio Estevez that is one of them, but I only watch Charlie Sheen.

Nice try, libbos.
2013-06-03 04:45:54 PM  
1 votes:
Y'know, if you guys could arrange to have these threads / discussions at Fark meetups, I'd definitely start going.

/Been a while since I've seen a good ol' bar fight.
2013-06-03 04:20:23 PM  
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: I think Zimmerman is to bolame here just as much as Martin, but yo9u seem to be arguing that Zimmerman following Martin gave Martin carte blanche to do whatever. Is that your position? Could you clarify?


Apparently you don't know the LAW and can't use simple LOGIC! If you somebody is following you and looking at you the wrong way you should absolutely have every right to defend yourself and attack them. Treyvon was standing HIS ground from some freaky white guy giving him the stink eye.  And Martin was unarmed so Zimmerman has no right to use his gun for self defense.   That's the LAW.  He shouldn't have been waving around menacing in the first place.  Zimmerman should have just taken his beating like a man if you lost the fight after looking at the wrong dude the wrong way. That's life.
2013-06-03 04:17:23 PM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Triple Oak: You can tell the defense is trending towards implausible white superiority,

He's not white when will farking idiots try to pretend that he is? For fark's sake this is a white guy?

[i.imgur.com image 640x360]



"At least he's not jewish", is what you're saying?
2013-06-03 04:12:44 PM  
1 votes:

ChuDogg: Smelly Pirate Hooker: You'd think one person being unarmed and dead and the other person being alive with a gun would have made this a relatively simple manslaughter case.

FACT: You can't defend yourself unless your attacker is armed.


So if a no-armed man kicks me in the balls, I have to just stand there and take it?
2013-06-03 03:54:28 PM  
1 votes:

Smelly Pirate Hooker: You'd think one person being unarmed and dead and the other person being alive with a gun would have made this a relatively simple manslaughter case.


actually you would think that all the evidence pointing to self defense (and the fact that the police did not find evidence that a crime was committed and so did not arrest or charge Zimmerman at the scene) would have made this a relatively simple self-defense case.  Which it was until the media claimed a white male had gunned down a small black child in cold blood and the mob demanded that Zimmerman be charged.
2013-06-03 03:32:23 PM  
1 votes:
WHAT IF TRAYVON WAS TRYING TO GET MURDERED DID YOU EVERN THINK OF THAT
2013-06-03 03:26:01 PM  
1 votes:
At this point, I'm REALLY wishing hard for a hung jury. For this to end in a manner emotionally unsatisfactory to all the dipshiats who care about it would be just too delicious.
2013-06-03 03:05:09 PM  
1 votes:

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Lets face it if trayvon was a white kid all these defenders of zimmerman would not have shiat to say on the matter.


Bahhhh.......imagine if it were these guys..........
marc.merlins.org
It would be the most epic thread ever.
2013-06-03 02:33:02 PM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: He did not have his gun drawn when he approached Martin


Tatsuma: You know when you have to lie to make your case, that shows how weak it is.


I...uh...well...Geez dude. Be less ironical.
2013-06-03 02:32:12 PM  
1 votes:

Cupajo: All he "initiated" was a walk home with a bag of Skittles. When you stalk someone in the middle of the night while holding a gun (after you've been advised not to by a 911 operator), then you are the one who puts the events in motion. Why is that so hard for people like you to understand?


He did not have his gun drawn when he approached Martin, nor was he told by the 911 operator to not draw his gun.

You know when you have to lie to make your case, that shows how weak it is.
2013-06-03 02:31:16 PM  
1 votes:
Yet another picture of 4 pound, 3 ounce, premature baby Trayvon Martin right before he was gunned down in coldest blood by one Hernando-Jiminez Silversteinfarb.

i.imgur.com
2013-06-03 02:26:17 PM  
1 votes:

dittybopper: Just because you started a fight with someone doesn't mean you have to essentially commit suicide by submitting.


So, I can punch a cop, then, when he pulls his gun, I can legally shoot him dead?
2013-06-03 02:22:24 PM  
1 votes:

AiryAnne: White (One black parent, one white white parent and raised in a predominantly white neighborhood)


www.whitehouse.gov
2013-06-03 02:12:15 PM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Especially since the multiple witnesses to the actual altercation all agree that he was on the ground, Martin was on top of him and Zimmerman was screaming for help.


Isn't there some rule in your religion about lying? For someone that censors the "o" out of God, I'd have figured you'd take it easy on the blatant lying.
2013-06-03 02:09:16 PM  
1 votes:
If they can only prove that he deserved to be murdered, then everything's OK.
2013-06-03 01:55:39 PM  
1 votes:

nekom: I suspect he will, and he probably should under the law.


Which law? He's not taking a Stand Your Ground defense.
2013-06-03 01:54:16 PM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Triple Oak: You can tell the defense is trending towards implausible white superiority,

He's not white when will farking idiots try to pretend that he is? For fark's sake this is a white guy?

[i.imgur.com image 640x360]


You know that media parody poster about Glocks? That's how this works. Anyone accused against a black man is white.

White (Ancestors from western Europe)
White (Parent from Mexico, Parent from Spain)
White (Asian who attends predominantly white school and is named Jeff)
White (One black parent, one white white parent and raised in a predominantly white neighborhood)
White (Not black)
White (Hispanic)
White (Jew accused of a crime and is named Jeff)
2013-06-03 01:12:31 PM  
1 votes:
Dammit. I'm at work, I can't drink now!
2013-06-03 12:45:06 PM  
1 votes:

coco ebert: Unless Trayvon Martin jumped on Zimmerman's car and forced him to get out, how could he be the one that initiated the confrontation? Doesn't the 9/11 call where the operator asks Zimmerman to stay in his car show who initiated what?


Well, just because you parked at the McDonald's and got out doesn't mean you ordered food.  Now, if you went in observed, then went back out AND then an employee attacked you shoving a Big Mac down your throat, who is the aggressor?
2013-06-03 12:44:08 PM  
1 votes:

nekom: There are no winners here at all.


There are all kinds of winners here. Think about how many revenge fantasies have been vicariously fulfilled. You can practically see people in some of these threads playing the role of Zimmerman in their full-length Travis Bickle mirrors.
2013-06-03 12:39:01 PM  
1 votes:
Zimmerman got really farking fat. Good god, easy on the churros, dude.
2013-06-03 12:27:25 PM  
1 votes:
Was one of the reports that Trayvon was a negro? 'Cause, I heard that he was black.
2013-06-03 11:58:04 AM  
1 votes:
you mean like those "gangsta" pics that turned out to be a different trayvon martin?
2013-06-03 11:50:10 AM  
1 votes:

Mrbogey: ongbok: They know that if the lie is juicy enough, and enough people want to believe it, people won't care about the truth

The issue seems was over the sequence of events and how they misinterpreted the evidence. That's not a lie.

If it was then the farkers who supported Trayvon would be labeled liars because of their poor rationalization skills.


Is that even English? And what the hell does it have to do with this article?
 
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