The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: You guys wouldn't be arguing like this if Trayvon Martin was a German Shepherd and George Zimmerman was a perfectly-cooked and seasoned, medium-rare rib eye steak!
AiryAnne: Tatsuma: Triple Oak: You can tell the defense is trending towards implausible white superiority,He's not white when will farking idiots try to pretend that he is? For fark's sake this is a white guy?[i.imgur.com image 640x360]You know that media parody poster about Glocks? That's how this works. Anyone accused against a black man is white.White (Ancestors from western Europe)White (Parent from Mexico, Parent from Spain)White (Asian who attends predominantly white school and is named Jeff)White (One black parent, one white white parent and raised in a predominantly white neighborhood)White (Not black)White (Hispanic)White (Jew accused of a crime and is named Jeff)
nekom: None of this is the slightest bit relevant to the case. Was he a good person? Did he smoke weed? None of that matters. The question is whether or not a self defense claim is valid. It doesn't matter if he was a gangster or a choir boy.
AngryDragon: ChuDogg: BojanglesPaladin: I think Zimmerman is to bolame here just as much as Martin, but yo9u seem to be arguing that Zimmerman following Martin gave Martin carte blanche to do whatever. Is that your position? Could you clarify?Apparently you don't know the LAW and can't use simple LOGIC! If you somebody is following you and looking at you the wrong way you should absolutely have every right to defend yourself and attack them. Treyvon was standing HIS ground from some freaky white guy giving him the stink eye. And Martin was unarmed so Zimmerman has no right to use his gun for self defense. That's the LAW. He shouldn't have been waving around menacing in the first place. Zimmerman should have just taken his beating like a man if you lost the fight after looking at the wrong dude the wrong way. That's life.You couldn't possibly have been wrong on any more of your points. You cannot attack for being followed. Your assailant being armed has NOTHING to to with self-defense legally, fear of death or great bodily harm does. There is no indication that Zimmerman had his firearm out before the final confrontation. You condone someone aggressively attacking for "looking at the wrong dude the wrong way" but vilify reasonable self-defense? I really hope you don't work for the legal system.
Mrtraveler01: George Zimmerman is living proof on why I don't trust vigilantes with my life.
ChuDogg: soaboutthat: Why does Martin not get to stand his ground? Answer me that. He tried to break contact and was chased down. Why can't he defend himself?What he doesn't realize is that "Assault" requires power + privilege. (edit: don't anybody throw dictionary definitions written by white men at me). Treyvon Martin had neither wandering around his own neighborhood, and George Zimmerman knew that. Thus, regardless of who confronted whom they keep berating, Treyvon Martin really couldn't have assaulted him. Zimmerman and every other whiteboy should recongize their historical status as oppressors when dealing with people of color. If Treyvon Martin did indeed attack Zimmerman first, he was in no position to use "self defense" against some claimed "assault". It's ridiculous and offensive to all the true victims of assault which result from white people's prejudice against people of color world wide.
Tatsuma: Go back to Tumblr, you worthless internet sjw
ChuDogg: Lolbertarians who invent words like "statism" are are always white people i know who are racist. Because before the state you were happy to enslave and oppress brown people all over the world, just like Zimmerman was excercising his "right" to oppress some brown person walking around his own neighborhood at night. You hate the fact that the State now intervenes when things like job applications or seperate water fountains come up. You would be happy to go back to those "stateless days" when Martin would have been bagged up and tossed no questions asked.Keep living in fear white boys, your own demographics are changing and you won't have anywhere to "white flight' to anymore. I suggest you start being nice to the Treyvon Martins walking around you neighborhood because, yes, the STATE will arrest you when you chase down and murder a child in cold blood.
soaboutthat: Why does Martin not get to stand his ground? Answer me that. He tried to break contact and was chased down. Why can't he defend himself?
kirlian: Y'know, if you guys could arrange to have these threads / discussions at Fark meetups, I'd definitely start going./Been a while since I've seen a good ol' bar fight.
BojanglesPaladin: I think Zimmerman is to bolame here just as much as Martin, but yo9u seem to be arguing that Zimmerman following Martin gave Martin carte blanche to do whatever. Is that your position? Could you clarify?
Tatsuma: Triple Oak: You can tell the defense is trending towards implausible white superiority,He's not white when will farking idiots try to pretend that he is? For fark's sake this is a white guy?[i.imgur.com image 640x360]
ChuDogg: Smelly Pirate Hooker: You'd think one person being unarmed and dead and the other person being alive with a gun would have made this a relatively simple manslaughter case.FACT: You can't defend yourself unless your attacker is armed.
Smelly Pirate Hooker: You'd think one person being unarmed and dead and the other person being alive with a gun would have made this a relatively simple manslaughter case.
teenage mutant ninja rapist: Lets face it if trayvon was a white kid all these defenders of zimmerman would not have shiat to say on the matter.
Tatsuma: He did not have his gun drawn when he approached Martin
Tatsuma: You know when you have to lie to make your case, that shows how weak it is.
Cupajo: All he "initiated" was a walk home with a bag of Skittles. When you stalk someone in the middle of the night while holding a gun (after you've been advised not to by a 911 operator), then you are the one who puts the events in motion. Why is that so hard for people like you to understand?
dittybopper: Just because you started a fight with someone doesn't mean you have to essentially commit suicide by submitting.
AiryAnne: White (One black parent, one white white parent and raised in a predominantly white neighborhood)
Tatsuma: Especially since the multiple witnesses to the actual altercation all agree that he was on the ground, Martin was on top of him and Zimmerman was screaming for help.
nekom: I suspect he will, and he probably should under the law.
coco ebert: Unless Trayvon Martin jumped on Zimmerman's car and forced him to get out, how could he be the one that initiated the confrontation? Doesn't the 9/11 call where the operator asks Zimmerman to stay in his car show who initiated what?
nekom: There are no winners here at all.
Mrbogey: ongbok: They know that if the lie is juicy enough, and enough people want to believe it, people won't care about the truthThe issue seems was over the sequence of events and how they misinterpreted the evidence. That's not a lie.If it was then the farkers who supported Trayvon would be labeled liars because of their poor rationalization skills.
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