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(Independent)   UK has its own Guantanamo Bay, calls it Roy Cove   (independent.co.uk) divider line 18
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2013-06-03 10:45:17 AM
Except there they force feed the detainees English food as a form of daily torture:
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2013-06-03 11:10:47 AM
They wanted to call it Cameron Bay, but the Canadians were having Nunavut.
 
2013-06-03 11:27:07 AM
I'm pretty sure that the British Empire has like 800 years more experience maintaining networks of political prisons than we do, and I would actually be more surprised if they stopped.

/Doesn't make it right, of course...
 
2013-06-03 11:34:25 AM
Remember like a week ago when Obama promised to do something about Guantanamo, and then the outrage over force feeding went away and the story fell off the Internet truck? Yeah.
 
2013-06-03 11:43:29 AM

NostroZ: Except there they force feed the detainees English food as a form of daily torture:
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Except for the beans, that plate has me drooling.
 
2013-06-03 11:47:46 AM

NostroZ: Except there they force feed the detainees English food as a form of daily torture:
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Egg should be fried, there's no mushrooms, black pudding or toast on the side. the Sausage should be a banger rather than a link.

English Breakfast is awesome when you have a hangover.
 
2013-06-03 11:57:46 AM

Claka: NostroZ: Except there they force feed the detainees English food as a form of daily torture:
[farm3.static.flickr.com image 500x342]

Egg should be fried, there's no mushrooms, black pudding or toast on the side. the Sausage should be a banger rather than a link.

English Breakfast is awesome when you have a hangover.


Tomatoes. Whaarrrr?

The beginning of the trilogy. The Breakfast. The WC. The Shiny, Slippery Toilet Paper.
 
2013-06-03 12:44:16 PM
An island that an imperial nation claims via hegemony to convert it into a prison?
 
2013-06-03 01:02:06 PM

hinten: An island that an imperial nation claims via hegemony to convert it into a prison?


Ireland?


I'd tolerate UK breakfast if they would just cook bacon properly.  No, it's not supposed to be slimy and soft, at least some crunch you wankers.
 
2013-06-03 01:07:12 PM

nocturnal001: hinten: An island that an imperial nation claims via hegemony to convert it into a prison?

Ireland?


I'd tolerate UK breakfast if they would just cook bacon properly.  No, it's not supposed to be slimy and soft, at least some crunch you wankers.


Not even close, Roy Cove is in Falkland Islands.
 
2013-06-03 01:16:59 PM

hinten: nocturnal001: hinten: An island that an imperial nation claims via hegemony to convert it into a prison?

Ireland?


I'd tolerate UK breakfast if they would just cook bacon properly.  No, it's not supposed to be slimy and soft, at least some crunch you wankers.

Not even close, Roy Cove is in Falkland Islands.


Was a joke, a poor excuse for one though. ;)
 
2013-06-03 01:25:01 PM
Our biggest mistake in Afghanistan (with the exception of not bombing the Saudis), was including the British. The British have a 1000 year history of being scumbags. The Afghans have defeated them and still hate them to this day.

I have seen British soldiers in Ireland, Belize, and Afghanistan and if ever there were soldiers more deserving of an EFP IED it's got to be the British.

It's time for America to shake these little snots from our coat tails and go forward and rebuild the world in our image. A world without, Kings, Sultans, Sheiks, Crown Princes, Dukes, Lords or hereditary titles.

p.s. Don't those bastards still owe us for saving them Three times in the 20th century.
 
2013-06-03 01:27:35 PM

obamadidcoke: Our biggest mistake in Afghanistan (with the exception of not bombing the Saudis), was including the British. The British have a 1000 year history of being scumbags. The Afghans have defeated them and still hate them to this day.

I have seen British soldiers in Ireland, Belize, and Afghanistan and if ever there were soldiers more deserving of an EFP IED it's got to be the British.

It's time for America to shake these little snots from our coat tails and go forward and rebuild the world in our image. A world without, Kings, Sultans, Sheiks, Crown Princes, Dukes, Lords or hereditary titles.

p.s. Don't those bastards still owe us for saving them Three times in the 20th century.


5/10.

You laid it on pretty thick & fast from which you may get a rise, but there is such as too much of a good thing.
 
2013-06-03 01:46:24 PM
I don't know why you think I am a troll.
Here are the facts.
1. Britain has a long history of oppression.
2. British soldiers and most of it's officer corps are from the lower rungs of British society.
3. British soldiers are abusive to locals.
4. Alcoholism is rampant in the British military.
5. On at leas two occasions the British have broken and run in the face of "determined resistance". This means that they are running from guys in dresses from a culture that lacks indoor plumbing.
6. The idea that anyone is born "better" than someone else is abhorrent to Americans and it has no place in our modern world.
7. They did not pay off their Lend-Lease debt until 2006, six years late.

As far as allies go they are really the weak chicken. America spends 700 million dollars a year on it's military we have the power to invade, destroy, and rebuild any country that refuses to get with the program. The British only contribute subordinate units that have to be supported by the real soldiers.

But what really bothers me is their Benny Hill Salutes.
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-06-03 04:33:53 PM

obamadidcoke: I don't know why you think I am a troll.
Here are the facts.
1. Britain has a long history of oppression.
2. British soldiers and most of it's officer corps are from the lower rungs of British society.
3. British soldiers are abusive to locals.
4. Alcoholism is rampant in the British military.
5. On at leas two occasions the British have broken and run in the face of "determined resistance". This means that they are running from guys in dresses from a culture that lacks indoor plumbing.
6. The idea that anyone is born "better" than someone else is abhorrent to Americans and it has no place in our modern world.
7. They did not pay off their Lend-Lease debt until 2006, six years late.

As far as allies go they are really the weak chicken. America spends 700 million dollars a year on it's military we have the power to invade, destroy, and rebuild any country that refuses to get with the program. The British only contribute subordinate units that have to be supported by the real soldiers.

But what really bothers me is their Benny Hill Salutes.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 275x183]


And let's not forget that they are the very model of a nation building its empire upon business interests. This is a nation who fought China so that it could force importing opium.
 
2013-06-03 06:16:52 PM

obamadidcoke: I don't know why you think I am a troll.
Here are the facts.
1. Britain has a long history of oppression.
2. British soldiers and most of it's officer corps are from the lower rungs of British society.
3. British soldiers are abusive to locals.
4. Alcoholism is rampant in the British military.
5. On at leas two occasions the British have broken and run in the face of "determined resistance". This means that they are running from guys in dresses from a culture that lacks indoor plumbing.
6. The idea that anyone is born "better" than someone else is abhorrent to Americans and it has no place in our modern world.
7. They did not pay off their Lend-Lease debt until 2006, six years late.

As far as allies go they are really the weak chicken. America spends 700 million dollars a year on it's military we have the power to invade, destroy, and rebuild any country that refuses to get with the program. The British only contribute subordinate units that have to be supported by the real soldiers.

But what really bothers me is their Benny Hill Salutes.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 275x183]


1: Every nation in Europe has a long history of oppression. When America is as old as Britain is (or any other European nation for that matter) they will undoubtedly also have a long history of oppression. In fact you're making a pretty good stab at it already.
2: Your point 2 and 6 contradict one another. If everyone is equal then why is being born in the poorer class a problem.
3: All nations will have soldiers who are abusive, fighting causes a lot of stress that some cannot deal with or have you forgotten the murders by American soldiers in Afghanistan (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10088092/ US -soldier-charged-with-killing-16-Afghan-civilians-to-plead-guilty-to-a void-death-penalty.html ).
4: Again a lot of soldiers need a way to rlieve stress and drinking is far better than some alternatives. And again Americans also have a history of alcohol and substance abuse (http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/afghani st an/120422/american-soldiers-drug-overdoses-us-army-heroi ).
5: The only reference to a retreat by the British from Afghanistan is in 1842. A time when war was a lot different and not having indoor plumbing was no big deal.
6: It is not a thing in England either. If you are referencing the "nobility" it is a custom and nothing more.
7: A debt involving a country (with a heavily fluctuating economy at the time) where it is paid 6 years late is a miracle. I wouldn't have been surprised if it had been decades late.
 
2013-06-03 06:51:41 PM
Wow... I'm a lib, but that article was an example of the left-wing press sounding like the right-wing press of late (i.e. take as extreme a position as you think you can get away with... and push it just *that* much farther towards TILT, *then* publish it). That was an editorial disguised as a news story (or a left-wing Fox News-type story: 90% editorial, 10% reporting a story).
 
2013-06-03 07:55:48 PM

Jackeyblob: obamadidcoke: I don't know why you think I am a troll.
Here are the facts.
1. Britain has a long history of oppression.
2. British soldiers and most of it's officer corps are from the lower rungs of British society.
3. British soldiers are abusive to locals.
4. Alcoholism is rampant in the British military.
5. On at leas two occasions the British have broken and run in the face of "determined resistance". This means that they are running from guys in dresses from a culture that lacks indoor plumbing.
6. The idea that anyone is born "better" than someone else is abhorrent to Americans and it has no place in our modern world.
7. They did not pay off their Lend-Lease debt until 2006, six years late.

As far as allies go they are really the weak chicken. America spends 700 million dollars a year on it's military we have the power to invade, destroy, and rebuild any country that refuses to get with the program. The British only contribute subordinate units that have to be supported by the real soldiers.

But what really bothers me is their Benny Hill Salutes.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 275x183]

1: Every nation in Europe has a long history of oppression. When America is as old as Britain is (or any other European nation for that matter) they will undoubtedly also have a long history of oppression. In fact you're making a pretty good stab at it already.
2: Your point 2 and 6 contradict one another. If everyone is equal then why is being born in the poorer class a problem.
3: All nations will have soldiers who are abusive, fighting causes a lot of stress that some cannot deal with or have you forgotten the murders by American soldiers in Afghanistan (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10088092/ US -soldier-charged-with-killing-16-Afghan-civilians-to-plead-guilty-to-a void-death-penalty.html ).
4: Again a lot of soldiers need a way to rlieve stress and drinking is far better than some alternatives. And again Americans also have a history of alcohol ...


 So what, I agree the British are shiat. They broke on 12/9/2008 and on 3/24/2009. Yes there are American soldiers who commit war crimes, but unlike the British they get punished.

You have a society that categorizes people from birth. Not only do hereditary peers have a roll in government but now they are infiltrating the lower house.

As a Brit about the only moral thing that you can do is kill your queen and her inbred offspring.

To compare, Mitt Romney failed in his presidential bid and his political career is over. On the other hand Louis Mountbatten spent 50 years subverting government and damaging his country for personal gain.

Thank God the IRA got him.

CSB
When I lived in Belize a "squadie" stole our golf cart for a drunken drive. The next morning I went down to the catonement area and talked to the Colour Sergeant who said it wasn't his problem and he said he was sure it would turn up after they left. I then went to the unit commander and got pretty much the same message.
So that night we got with some friends and we raided their motor pool. We cut break lines, drained transmissions, removed valve stem cores, and stole every document we could find. Later we tracked down our golf cart, recovered it and left four "squadies" beaten and bloody in a mangrove swamp on the south side of the island.
The next morning I revisited the commander and took full responsibility for what happened and challenged him to do something about it.
No one ever did because the brits are pussies.
I did enjoy watching those tough british soldiers crawling around in the coral dust looking for those valve stem cores though.

After reading all of the documents (everything from receipts and maintenance requests to Op orders and classified materials including a real world use codebook), I mailed them to random addresses around the world.

End CSB
 
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