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(American Thinker)   Immigration reform will lead to Hispanics joining blacks as the leading causes of your precious snowflake not getting into a good school: right behind legacies, donor's kids, and jocks with a burning interest in geology   (americanthinker.com) divider line 58
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2013-06-03 10:05:45 AM
Amnesty will Lead to More Affirmative Action

And reading American Thinker will lead to severe cognitive impairment.  Which causes a drain on our already stretched mental health resources.

So do the patriotic thing:  Don't read American Thinker.
 
2013-06-03 10:54:35 AM
You'd hope that eventually the right wing tactic of diverting attention from the real causes of inequality and lack of opportunity in this nation by screaming "Hey look over there, more Mexicans just showed up" would stop working, but, unfortunately, apparently not.
 
2013-06-03 11:05:02 AM
White men are being oppressed!
 
2013-06-03 11:06:37 AM
The only way to slow down the victim lobby is to stop amnesty, and enhance enforcement immediately.

So the only way to slow down the "victim lobby" is to victimize more people.
 
2013-06-03 11:08:34 AM
YES, an increased American population means increased competition for good jobs, educational seats, etc.   NO, you aren't allowed to complain about it.  If you can't compete with other ethnicities on equal footing, you're screwed, as well you should be.
 
2013-06-03 11:08:35 AM

Fart_Machine: White men are being oppressed!


I will say this, in terms of deliciousness, Mexicans far outrank whites.
 
2013-06-03 11:11:30 AM
The farking article's headline starts with a question-begging epithet.  Why would you bother reading any further?  Let alone give the derp serious consideration?

Path to citizenship  ≠ amnesty
 
2013-06-03 11:12:08 AM
The author forgot to tell you that the group of Americans who benefit the most from AA policies are white women.
 
2013-06-03 11:15:53 AM
According to most Right Wingers I have heard, illegal aliens already get preferred admissions and special scholarships to "Liberal" schools.
 
2013-06-03 11:15:56 AM
I think it's weird to hear white people (and I did in college) complain about their inability to get into some mediocre program because of AA when said program is filled with white people.  I don't see why you'd want to bring up your inferiority to your peers.
 
2013-06-03 11:16:24 AM
But competition is good, right?
 
2013-06-03 11:16:43 AM
Dear White Trash Racists,

I am very sorry your kids can't compete with the kids from the projects that speak English as a second language? Maybe you should have read to them more between Bud Lights and reruns of Teen Mom.
 
2013-06-03 11:18:14 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: Dear White Trash Racists,

I am very sorry your kids can't compete with the kids from the projects that speak English as a second language? Maybe you should have read to them more between Bud Lights and reruns of Teen Mom.


But I bought all the best A Beka Books when I had them homeschooled by that nice man from church! They could recite Genesis word-for-word. I don't know why Harvard said Little Billy Ray didn't know his science!
 
2013-06-03 11:19:33 AM

Lexx: YES, an increased American population means increased competition for good jobs, educational seats, etc.   NO, you aren't allowed to complain about it.  If you can't compete with other ethnicities on equal footing, you're screwed, as well you should be.


So the trick is to make sure you're better than the minorities, right?  Is that what you're implying?  I like the cut of your jib.  Real Americans survive by being better than those around them, and competing for jobs ain't an exception.  Yes, there probably have been some equally qualified white men turned down for jobs or scholarships in the name of ethnic diversity, but i bet its not happening that often.  More likely, the people who can't quite make the cut happen to often also be bloggers (maybe there's a connection there).

//of course, I'm no expert on the subject.  I may in fact be an idiot regarding the subject.  I'm still white, male, and more than able to compete when needed.
 
2013-06-03 11:32:08 AM

green_chile_cheeseburger: Yes, there probably have been some equally qualified white men turned down for jobs or scholarships in the name of ethnic diversity, but i bet its not happening that often.


Then why do we need Affirmative Action?  If minorities are competing and winning these Scholarships and spots in Universities without help from quotas giving them an unfair edge over their peers, then why do we have it?
 
2013-06-03 11:35:54 AM
This is the problem the Republicans face in their attempts at outreach beyond their base:  their base absolutely hates the idea of outreach, and will do whatever they can to make outreach harder to achieve.

Maybe they could try saying, "Please don't pay any attention to all the people in our party who keeping screaming that we should only reach out to white voters!"
 
2013-06-03 11:39:52 AM
My precious snowflakes ARE Hispanic, so it's not a problem for me.
 
2013-06-03 11:40:49 AM

spiderpaz: green_chile_cheeseburger: Yes, there probably have been some equally qualified white men turned down for jobs or scholarships in the name of ethnic diversity, but i bet its not happening that often.

Then why do we need Affirmative Action?  If minorities are competing and winning these Scholarships and spots in Universities without help from quotas giving them an unfair edge over their peers, then why do we have it?


spiderpaz: green_chile_cheeseburger: Yes, there probably have been some equally qualified white men turned down for jobs or scholarships in the name of ethnic diversity, but i bet its not happening that often.

Then why do we need Affirmative Action?  If minorities are competing and winning these Scholarships and spots in Universities without help from quotas giving them an unfair edge over their peers, then why do we have it?


You sound young and ignorant.
 
2013-06-03 11:42:48 AM
Don't be retarded. Mexicans won't take my snowflake's place at college...it's the Asians that will keep her out of University of Phoenix. Instead of playing football, them Asians play the violin and read books. Instead of playing X-Box, them Asians do math homework. The Asians have played the biggest joke on the white man in this country. They have micturated into my caramel-flavored high-fructose corn syrup carbonated beverage.
 
2013-06-03 11:42:51 AM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: spiderpaz: green_chile_cheeseburger: Yes, there probably have been some equally qualified white men turned down for jobs or scholarships in the name of ethnic diversity, but i bet its not happening that often.

Then why do we need Affirmative Action?  If minorities are competing and winning these Scholarships and spots in Universities without help from quotas giving them an unfair edge over their peers, then why do we have it?

spiderpaz: green_chile_cheeseburger: Yes, there probably have been some equally qualified white men turned down for jobs or scholarships in the name of ethnic diversity, but i bet its not happening that often.

Then why do we need Affirmative Action?  If minorities are competing and winning these Scholarships and spots in Universities without help from quotas giving them an unfair edge over their peers, then why do we have it?

You sound young and ignorant.


You sound like you double click quotation buttons, lack merit in your arguments.
 
2013-06-03 11:46:06 AM

spiderpaz: Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: spiderpaz: green_chile_cheeseburger: Yes, there probably have been some equally qualified white men turned down for jobs or scholarships in the name of ethnic diversity, but i bet its not happening that often.

Then why do we need Affirmative Action?  If minorities are competing and winning these Scholarships and spots in Universities without help from quotas giving them an unfair edge over their peers, then why do we have it?

spiderpaz: green_chile_cheeseburger: Yes, there probably have been some equally qualified white men turned down for jobs or scholarships in the name of ethnic diversity, but i bet its not happening that often.

Then why do we need Affirmative Action?  If minorities are competing and winning these Scholarships and spots in Universities without help from quotas giving them an unfair edge over their peers, then why do we have it?

You sound young and ignorant.

You sound like you double click quotation buttons, lack merit in your arguments.


geekonfilm.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-03 11:46:51 AM
I used to work for a medical school, and I always got a chuckle when some kid rich white kid whined about how much harder it was for him to get into medical school than it was for his father and grandfather.
 
2013-06-03 11:48:08 AM
FTFA: As Shelby Steele noted, affirmative action encourages "a victim-focused identity in minorities White Male Christian Republicans with a disproportionate share of wealth and privilege. "

FTFE.
 
2013-06-03 11:53:02 AM

Dahnkster: They have micturated into my caramel-flavored high-fructose corn syrup carbonated beverage.


3.bp.blogspot.com

This guy did not. And at least he didn't blame some Chinaman for the loss of his legs.
 
2013-06-03 11:53:16 AM

what_now: I used to work for a medical school, and I always got a chuckle when some kid rich white kid whined about how much harder it was for him to get into medical school than it was for his father and grandfather.


That's pretty lame if they are legitimately legacies.

At some schools, legacy preferences have an effect on admissions comparable to other factors such as being a recruited athlete or affirmative action. One study of three selective private research universities in the United States showed the following effects (admissions disadvantage and advantage in terms of
Blacks: +230Hispanics: +185Asians: -50Recruited athletes: +200Legacies (children of alumni): +160
Supposedly, legacy admissions are valuable for institutional community (re: alumni donations).
 
2013-06-03 11:54:53 AM

Obama's Reptiloid Master: Fart_Machine: White men are being oppressed!

I will say this, in terms of deliciousness, Mexicans far outrank whites.


Which, I hear, is how Michael Douglas got throat cancer.
 
2013-06-03 11:56:24 AM
At long last, have you left no sense of decency?
 
2013-06-03 11:58:31 AM

what_now: I used to work for a medical school, and I always got a chuckle when some kid rich white kid whined about how much harder it was for him to get into medical school than it was for his father and grandfather.

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I've always found it interesting that nobody seems to mind affirmative action for rich people too much.
 
2013-06-03 12:01:23 PM
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2013-06-03 12:02:35 PM

Somacandra: what_now: I used to work for a medical school, and I always got a chuckle when some kid rich white kid whined about how much harder it was for him to get into medical school than it was for his father and grandfather.
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I've always found it interesting that nobody seems to mind affirmative action for rich people too much.


I bet the only reason you got that picture in before me was because you're a minority.
 
2013-06-03 12:03:04 PM

spiderpaz: green_chile_cheeseburger: Yes, there probably have been some equally qualified white men turned down for jobs or scholarships in the name of ethnic diversity, but i bet its not happening that often.

Then why do we need Affirmative Action?  If minorities are competing and winning these Scholarships and spots in Universities without help from quotas giving them an unfair edge over their peers, then why do we have it?


There are no quotas. Go back to stormfront.
 
2013-06-03 12:04:14 PM

Karac: [h340b.pbworks.com image 500x299]


Actually, the first two aren't a huge deal anymore. You can change that to "daughter of employee" to be more accurate.
 
2013-06-03 12:12:32 PM

what_now: Karac: [h340b.pbworks.com image 500x299]

Actually, the first two aren't a huge deal anymore. You can change that to "daughter of employee" to be more accurate.


Not really.  Alum counts, "big Donor" is basically a guarantee and a good chance of getting a degree.  The fact that there aren't too many of them doesn't change that.
 
2013-06-03 12:15:48 PM

Karac: I bet the only reason you got that picture in before me was because you're a minority.


Legacy...my login's older. Oh wait, I'm said too mu+++CARRIER LOST+++
 
2013-06-03 12:21:35 PM
I don't believe this is true. I was denied entrance to many of the nation's top colleges based solely on my academic performance.
 
2013-06-03 12:22:48 PM

what_now: Karac: [h340b.pbworks.com image 500x299]

Actually, the first two aren't a huge deal anymore. You can change that to "daughter of employee" to be more accurate.


A friend of mine accepted a lower paying job at Emory specifically for that reason.  Both of his kids got in.
 
2013-06-03 12:26:25 PM

Rapmaster2000: I think it's weird to hear white people (and I did in college) complain about their inability to get into some mediocre program because of AA when said program is filled with white people.  I don't see why you'd want to bring up your inferiority to your peers.


It's like people who subscribe to racist theories have no basis in fact and often times are attracted to such belief systems for entirely narcissistic reasons. And it just happens that people who lack basic social skills often fall into narcissism.

There's a connection here I'm trying to dance around and I'm hoping that someone here doesn't just state the obvious of what I'm talking about here...
 
2013-06-03 12:35:59 PM

spiderpaz: green_chile_cheeseburger: Yes, there probably have been some equally qualified white men turned down for jobs or scholarships in the name of ethnic diversity, but i bet its not happening that often.

Then why do we need Affirmative Action?  If minorities are competing and winning these Scholarships and spots in Universities without help from quotas giving them an unfair edge over their peers, then why do we have it?


Access to education is the only thing that can really repair an inequality of opportunity for economic reasons (I say this as a white guy borne into economically disadvantaged circumstances, and now I'm a college educated professional making decent middle class money, paying taxes and repaying student loans), and right now the rate of poverty within many minority groups still creates a lot of obnoxious race- and culture-based issues.

People who think about these things want a more functional society, not a society where  Xis better enabled to game the system. It really is hard to concentrate on the gaming of the system of the disadvantaged when the advantaged have been writing the game's rules.
 
2013-06-03 12:37:49 PM
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2013-06-03 12:55:58 PM
The people most upset by this are also probably the least effected.
 
2013-06-03 12:59:04 PM
By 2030 or so, white folks are going to still be the largest ethnic group in the nation, but less than 50% of the population.

You might want to get used to seeing brown, black, and yellow folks, along with a LOT of mixed folks like myself. We are your future, and maybe get over your entitlement mentality that you are owed something for just showing up. Just because you want into a school, doesn't mean you don't have to compete. You want in? Be better prepared. If you're not, then you better have a back up school or two. You might also want to stop sending your kids to asinine programs that teach half baked mythology instead of science and history. Just a thought...
 
2013-06-03 01:01:00 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: spiderpaz: green_chile_cheeseburger: Yes, there probably have been some equally qualified white men turned down for jobs or scholarships in the name of ethnic diversity, but i bet its not happening that often.

Then why do we need Affirmative Action?  If minorities are competing and winning these Scholarships and spots in Universities without help from quotas giving them an unfair edge over their peers, then why do we have it?

Access to education is the only thing that can really repair an inequality of opportunity for economic reasons (I say this as a white guy borne into economically disadvantaged circumstances, and now I'm a college educated professional making decent middle class money, paying taxes and repaying student loans), and right now the rate of poverty within many minority groups still creates a lot of obnoxious race- and culture-based issues.

People who think about these things want a more functional society, not a society where  Xis better enabled to game the system. It really is hard to concentrate on the gaming of the system of the disadvantaged when the advantaged have been writing the game's rules.


I have a similar background but a different conclusion.  I grew up in a crappy neighborhood with my neighbors getting raided by SWAT, in the poorest area, where most of our neighbors were field workers with not much income.  2 out of 4 of us kids didn't even graduate high school because of gangs and drug abuse.  Someone in that situation does have tow overcome more than someone with more advantages ... but in my experience it's not based on race - it's income and location.  On the other hand, now that I make a good living, I can afford to send my son to private school, and pay for whatever he needs to go to whatever school he wants.  He doesn't need any assistance ... his parents are in the top 5% of family income in the US and if he has the same interest in academics that I did, he'll also likely finish in the top of his class.  But he's half Hispanic, so he'll be eligible for more scholarships (that he doesn't need) and if it comes down to him and another applicant who is white - who may have had more adversity - if that institution uses Affirmative Action, he'll get the position.

Also, if minorities are all struggling to achieve academic success all because of past and present discrimination - why are Asians out-performing all other demographics?  Seems like cherry picking.
 
2013-06-03 01:06:47 PM
OK Republicans lets get rid of ALL non-scholastic requirements for college entry. Lets let people enroll for college NOT based on race, sex, ability to play sports, legacy, donations and ABILITY TO PAY.

You with me?

*crickets*

Yeah that's what I thought.
 
2013-06-03 01:12:02 PM

spiderpaz: Also, if minorities are all struggling to achieve academic success all because of past and present discrimination - why are Asians out-performing all other demographics?  Seems like cherry picking.


That's because my mother's people have a rich and proud history, and great rhythm...
 
2013-06-03 01:13:48 PM

Corvus: OK Republicans lets get rid of ALL non-scholastic requirements for college entry. Lets let people enroll for college NOT based on race, sex, ability to play sports, legacy, donations and ABILITY TO PAY.

You with me?

*crickets*

Yeah that's what I thought.


That sounds good to this Democrat.   Isn't that the way society is supposed to function in a country that likes to think of itself as a "meritocracy"?  You make a good point about the financial elite avoiding straight forward competition in other ways.  Which is true.  Across the board, it seems like there just aren't that many Americans in any walk of life with an appetite for competition.  It makes you wonder if the narrative about the "rugged" American spirit that built this country ever had any truth to it.  In any case - all of us are going to have to get used to the idea of competing a lot more than previous generations because the global economy is coming on strong and their are billions of Chinese and Indians that aren't afraid to compete for a job.
 
2013-06-03 01:25:06 PM
 Directional State University still leads to succesful careers. If you couldn't get into that one try a trade school or do your first two years on the cheap at a community college.
 
2013-06-03 01:41:44 PM

hubiestubert: You might want to get used to seeing brown, black, and yellow folks, along with a LOT of mixed folks like myself.


OK, as long as we also get auto-dimming windows like in "Blade Runner."
 
2013-06-03 01:55:46 PM
I'm a freeborn man of the USA.

Having said that, I am the product of generations of brilliant adventurous people who successfully built America. Every generation of my family since the 18th century has attended college.

My daughter attends a highly selective private college. Poor and minority students can not compete with us because we have 300 years of wealth, power and education to fall back on.
 
2013-06-03 02:02:12 PM
Don't worry conservatives. If the govt keeps cranking up the interest on student loads, the "problem" will fix itself.
 
2013-06-03 02:32:06 PM

Corvus: OK Republicans lets get rid of ALL non-scholastic requirements for college entry. Lets let people enroll for college NOT based on race, sex, ability to play sports, legacy, donations and ABILITY TO PAY.

You with me?

*crickets*

Yeah that's what I thought.


Ouch.  Good one.
 
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