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(Seattle Times)   U.S. Embassy warns Americans against visiting the Egyptian Pyramids. It's now the most danger Americans have been subjected to by Pyramids since Bernie Madoff   (seattletimes.com) divider line 73
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2013-06-03 08:51:59 AM
Of course it's dangerous. Just like at this wacky language they use
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2013-06-03 08:55:38 AM
What, Amway went out of business?
 
2013-06-03 09:06:44 AM
Went there 15 years ago on a family trip as a young teenager- the vendors being super pushy there is nothing new.

My friends who have recently been in the country tell me the level of brazen tactics has gone up through the roof.  Which saddens me because as a woman it was always a hassle to go to even if you were with a guy; now it's apparently just awful and I'm frankly not interested when there are so many great places in the world to visit.

/still might consider Red Sea diving though
 
2013-06-03 09:09:25 AM
I am looking forward to the inevitable "College kids on an adventure trip to Egypt despite all warnings to the contrary get thrown in jail because they assumed because they were American that only American laws applied to them" article that should be showing up in a week or two.
 
2013-06-03 09:27:09 AM
It's just a big pile of rocks anyway
 
2013-06-03 09:29:05 AM
The majority of these incidents are attributed to over-aggressive vendors,

"Buy my plastic replica of the pyramids...or else!"
 
2013-06-03 09:30:22 AM
My friend, who works for the State Department, recommends just avoiding Egypt as a whole for the time being.  His advice for world travelers, check to see if a US flagged airline is flying into a major city, if there is not one, it is generally not a good place for Americans.
 
2013-06-03 09:31:44 AM
maybe it's just that I'm a giant wuss but I would never, ever, go to any country in that region by choice. My parents took a cruise to Israel and had to sign all these additional waivers and even went and got their affairs in order should they die. I don't know what the hell is over there that would be worth that risk. The pyramids are awfully nice but they do good work with cameras and the internet these days.
 
2013-06-03 09:33:54 AM
i was there a few years ago. all the street lights along the road to the pyramids had fallen over. trash was everywhere. the canals along the roads were just garbage dumps. funniest thing i saw was from my seat on a double decker bus. a small block building on a busy corner lower in height then the buildings around it had hundreds of weather worn wallets and purses on its roof. i'm guessing thieves and pickpockets tossed them there after they rifled through them.
 
2013-06-03 09:38:27 AM
FTFA: "In recent weeks, the U.S. Embassy has become aware of an increasing number of incidents at or near the Giza Pyramids. The majority of these incidents are attributed to over-aggressive vendors, though the degree of aggressiveness in some cases is closer to criminal conduct. Other more serious incidents have been reported involving vehicles nearing the pyramids, with angry groups of individuals surrounding and pounding on the vehicles - and in some cases attempting to open the vehicle's doors. While the motive is less clear (possibly related to carriage operators wanting fares), it has severely frightened several visitors. A common theme from many of these reports is the lack of visible security or police in the vicinity of the pyramids. U.S. citizens should elevate their situational awareness when traveling to the pyramids, avoid any late evening or night travel, utilize a recommended or trusted guide, and closely guard valuables. Though other tourist locations have not been brought to embassy attention, these measures are also recommended at all crowded or popular tourist sites."

I would think these precautions would be used even in the "best of times" to visit there, or pretty much any place you are unfamiliar with. Especially a foreign nation with political instability.
 
2013-06-03 09:43:16 AM
It sounds like they're worried it's only a matter of time before a couple of Americans are kidnapped and disappear into the Sinai... or worse.
 
2013-06-03 09:43:38 AM
Bummer. shiatbummer. This is one of the few things that's actually been on my bucket list since before the term "bucket list" became a thing.
 
2013-06-03 09:43:46 AM
You would think the Egyptians could pick a more stable government, what with having the Pyramids and all.
 
2013-06-03 09:46:38 AM

Fuggin Bizzy: Bummer. shiatbummer. This is one of the few things that's actually been on my bucket list since before the term "bucket list" became a thing.


Just make it last on the list.  It'll work out great!
 
2013-06-03 09:53:25 AM
The pyramid is opening!

Which one?

The one with the ever-widening hole in it!

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2013-06-03 09:57:08 AM
That's a shame.  I visited in 96 and the hucksters wanting you to take camel rides and buy crap were no worse than anyplace in the US or Europe.
 
2013-06-03 09:58:21 AM

drewbob21: Fuggin Bizzy: Bummer. shiatbummer. This is one of the few things that's actually been on my bucket list since before the term "bucket list" became a thing.

Just make it last on the list.  It'll work out great!


My hat's off to you sir. I like the way you think outside the box!
 
2013-06-03 10:02:56 AM
www.thetallestman.com

Disappointed.
 
2013-06-03 10:04:14 AM
When's the last time a group of Americas surrounded a carload of moslems and tried to drag them out?  Anyone?
 
2013-06-03 10:05:27 AM
Ehh, it's only a matter of time till they get blowed up anyway.
 
2013-06-03 10:12:23 AM

FrancoFile: That's a shame.  I visited in 96 and the hucksters wanting you to take camel rides and buy crap were no worse than anyplace in the US or Europe.


where can you get camel rides in the US and Europe?
 
2013-06-03 10:13:25 AM

airsupport: When's the last time a group of Americas surrounded a carload of moslems and tried to drag them out?  Anyone?


www.militarynewsnetwork.com
 
2013-06-03 10:14:40 AM
I went in 2008 (Canadian, but there were Americans with our party). My parents were there just after Tahrir Square. It was breathtaking, and the people for the most part were friendly and desperately happy to see tourists. My girl friend and I dtiched our party and wandered around Cairo by ourselves (there are women-only subway carriages).  Wear long, loose clothes, don't make eye contact with the pushy hawkers, and you'll have a great time.  Even got to climb up inside the Great Pyramid, using a rope to haul ourselves up a very steep ramp.  Inside, the goods have been taken to the musuem, but there's still a stone sarcophagus in the centre.  We took turns lying down in it.  There were only three of us inside, no guards, it was pitch black except for tiny lanterns at long intervals, and dry as dust and silent. You felt the 1,000,000 tons of rock over your head.  Like nothing else in the world.
 
2013-06-03 10:15:09 AM
www.adunnphotography.com

This pyramid was once for some shady financial company that went bust in the collapse.  So it wasn't Egypt, just where we're jipped ...

/ ahahahahaha I amuse myself
 
2013-06-03 10:21:30 AM
Just stay the fark out of the middle east completely. Why the fark anyone goes there is beyond me.
"Hey! Lets go hiking in Iran!"

/farking idiots.
 
2013-06-03 10:24:21 AM

Tom_Slick: My friend, who works for the State Department, recommends just avoiding Egypt as a whole for the time being.  His advice for world travelers, check to see if a US flagged airline is flying into a major city, if there is not one, it is generally not a good place for Americans.


Are you speaking just about Egypt or anywhere as a whole? That's a pretty restrictive policy for some of the more interesting places on earth.
 
2013-06-03 10:27:05 AM

starlost: i was there a few years ago. all the street lights along the road to the pyramids had fallen over. trash was everywhere. the canals along the roads were just garbage dumps. funniest thing i saw was from my seat on a double decker bus. a small block building on a busy corner lower in height then the buildings around it had hundreds of weather worn wallets and purses on its roof. i'm guessing thieves and pickpockets tossed them there after they rifled through them.


Or it could have all been the work of just one pickpocket. Who really likes that roof.
 
2013-06-03 10:31:25 AM
I guess the Ha'tak will have to land in Vegas instead.
 
2013-06-03 10:31:48 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: airsupport: When's the last time a group of Americas surrounded a carload of moslems and tried to drag them out?  Anyone?

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Exactly, collective punishment against the American's is what the UN would advocate.
In fact, I say if an American soldier did ANYTHING wrong, all Muslim nations are  now in full moral right to kidnap and kill American citizens/students.

That's exactly how the rules of war are supposed to work.
Right, commander?
 
2013-06-03 10:33:28 AM

BafflerMeal: Tom_Slick: My friend, who works for the State Department, recommends just avoiding Egypt as a whole for the time being.  His advice for world travelers, check to see if a US flagged airline is flying into a major city, if there is not one, it is generally not a good place for Americans.

Are you speaking just about Egypt or anywhere as a whole? That's a pretty restrictive policy for some of the more interesting places on earth.


Generally just Major Cities in Africa and the Middle East and places where current carriers have stopped flying.  Delta used to have daily flight to Cairo, now you have to go through Europe.  And also places like Ethiopia, which is pretty safe for an American, but every country around it is unsafe.
 
2013-06-03 10:35:29 AM

NostroZ: Philip Francis Queeg: airsupport: When's the last time a group of Americas surrounded a carload of moslems and tried to drag them out?  Anyone?

[www.militarynewsnetwork.com image 629x320]

Exactly, collective punishment against the American's is what the UN would advocate.
In fact, I say if an American soldier did ANYTHING wrong, all Muslim nations are  now in full moral right to kidnap and kill American citizens/students.

That's exactly how the rules of war are supposed to work.
Right, commander?


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2013-06-03 10:35:54 AM
Awwwww man, that sucks.  Egypt better get their shiat together...if they lose tourism money, they won't have much income coming in.   Not many reasons to go to Egypt, unfortunately.
 
2013-06-03 10:35:55 AM

airsupport: When's the last time a group of Americas surrounded a carload of moslems and tried to drag them out?  Anyone?


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2013-06-03 10:43:01 AM

raerae1980: Awwwww man, that sucks.  Egypt better get their shiat together...if they lose tourism money, they won't have much income coming in.   Not many reasons to go to Egypt, unfortunately.


Especially since they have no oil to generate revenue, Tourism is a huge part of their economy.
 
2013-06-03 10:54:47 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zahi_Hawass  killed Egyptian archaeology and should have to eat ass the rest of his life.  He is more of a crook, vandal, and capitalist than Madoff could ever hope to be.  Otherwise, as others have said, just look at old pics of the pyramids- much more poignant than the modern mall they have there.  And watch out for pickpockets...
 
2013-06-03 11:09:34 AM

Tom_Slick: BafflerMeal: Tom_Slick: My friend, who works for the State Department, recommends just avoiding Egypt as a whole for the time being.  His advice for world travelers, check to see if a US flagged airline is flying into a major city, if there is not one, it is generally not a good place for Americans.

Are you speaking just about Egypt or anywhere as a whole? That's a pretty restrictive policy for some of the more interesting places on earth.

Generally just Major Cities in Africa and the Middle East and places where current carriers have stopped flying.  Delta used to have daily flight to Cairo, now you have to go through Europe.  And also places like Ethiopia, which is pretty safe for an American, but every country around it is unsafe.


Yeah, but Ethiopian Air flies directly to Addis from Washington Dulles- I can't imagine there's too much of a market for Delta or American to fly there (and southern Africa is just friggin' far from everything so I certainly wouldn't count this rule down there).

"Every country around it?"  Really?  I'm not saying I'd go for a stroll to Somalia from Ethiopia, but Kenya is fine in the touristy places.

/though I was in a near-riot in Kenya so perhaps I'm not the one to talk to for what I consider "fine"
 
2013-06-03 11:18:10 AM

kimmygibblershomework: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zahi_Hawass  killed Egyptian archaeology and should have to eat ass the rest of his life.  He is more of a crook, vandal, and capitalist than Madoff could ever hope to be.  Otherwise, as others have said, just look at old pics of the pyramids- much more poignant than the modern mall they have there.  And watch out for pickpockets...


I've heard some very interesting stories about Hawass from fellow archaeologists.   He wasn't well liked by the international crowd.
 
2013-06-03 11:25:44 AM
RON PAUL says social security is the most dangerous pyramid to Americans, who have no business visiting or otherwise interfering in foreign countries.
 
2013-06-03 11:28:50 AM
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2013-06-03 11:30:38 AM
Come to beautiful Indianapolis and see our pyramids instead!
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2013-06-03 11:30:44 AM

kimmygibblershomework: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zahi_Hawass  killed Egyptian archaeology and should have to eat ass the rest of his life.  He is more of a crook, vandal, and capitalist than Madoff could ever hope to be.  Otherwise, as others have said, just look at old pics of the pyramids- much more poignant than the modern mall they have there.  And watch out for pickpockets...


My favourite is when they have the kids encircling you on horseback to harass you so you can't see anything until you bought crap from them.
 
2013-06-03 11:38:21 AM

Andromeda: Tom_Slick: BafflerMeal: Tom_Slick: My friend, who works for the State Department, recommends just avoiding Egypt as a whole for the time being.  His advice for world travelers, check to see if a US flagged airline is flying into a major city, if there is not one, it is generally not a good place for Americans.

Are you speaking just about Egypt or anywhere as a whole? That's a pretty restrictive policy for some of the more interesting places on earth.

Generally just Major Cities in Africa and the Middle East and places where current carriers have stopped flying.  Delta used to have daily flight to Cairo, now you have to go through Europe.  And also places like Ethiopia, which is pretty safe for an American, but every country around it is unsafe.

Yeah, but Ethiopian Air flies directly to Addis from Washington Dulles- I can't imagine there's too much of a market for Delta or American to fly there (and southern Africa is just friggin' far from everything so I certainly wouldn't count this rule down there).

"Every country around it?"  Really?  I'm not saying I'd go for a stroll to Somalia from Ethiopia, but Kenya is fine in the touristy places.

/though I was in a near-riot in Kenya so perhaps I'm not the one to talk to for what I consider "fine"


The issue with Kenya, is not the touristy areas it is the trip to get to them.  The Airport is where the danger of kidnapping is.
 
2013-06-03 11:41:12 AM
If you have to have someone tell you NOT to go to the Middle East, you are a ra-tard.
 
2013-06-03 11:42:58 AM
FTFA: "it has severely frightened several visitors".

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2013-06-03 11:51:57 AM

Tom_Slick: My friend, who works for the State Department, recommends just avoiding Egypt as a whole for the time being.  His advice for world travelers, check to see if a US flagged airline is flying into a major city, if there is not one, it is generally not a good place for Americans.


I know you're trying to help, but that sounds like a Griswold Family Vacation to me.
 
2013-06-03 11:55:32 AM
As Hamilton Jordan can tell you it's not safe to even discuss them.
 
2013-06-03 12:00:08 PM
Now I need a few of those inflight magazines with the destination maps to find the boring cities I need to avoid.
 
2013-06-03 12:05:07 PM

rtaylor92: maybe it's just that I'm a giant wuss but I would never, ever, go to any country in that region by choice. My parents took a cruise to Israel and had to sign all these additional waivers and even went and got their affairs in order should they die. I don't know what the hell is over there that would be worth that risk. The pyramids are awfully nice but they do good work with cameras and the internet these days.


shiat, I have enough trouble just going to the local museum, where do people get the drive to go to Egypt?

I mean, yeah, it's got some serious history, huge monuments that would be damn impressive to make even with modern technology, but it's also a lousy place to live, and it seems like the people there have a weird problem with most of their history being the product of what they now devoutly believe was demon-worship.
 
2013-06-03 12:12:24 PM

airsupport: When's the last time a group of Americas surrounded a carload of moslems and tried to drag them out?  Anyone?


You may not be aware but the American military is currently engaged large scale extended operations in multiple muslim countries. These operations may be considered antagonistic by the populations of those countries.


/the more you know
 
2013-06-03 12:16:38 PM
I would have gone for John Turtorro, as the most dangerous (to good storytelling)

moviesmedia.ign.com

"I am directly below the enemy's scrotum"
 
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