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2013-06-02 09:09:56 PM
6 votes:

jaytkay: When I have a tiny dispute about a rain shower with child-league soccer coaches...

...I run to the press and make it international news!!


When my child's coaches insist a field full of children do the equivalent of spelling out "f%$# you Zeus you can't hit sh*t" on the field, I run to whoever will listen before their stupid actually kills someone.
2013-06-02 09:27:18 PM
5 votes:
People are idiots. A few years ago, I was in Walmart (don't judge me) when a massive thunderstorm rolled in. The sky was dark and the rain was pouring in sheets as I checked out, so I ended up standing by the front windows with other shoppers waiting for it to let up. We all watched as a tall industrial tower across the street was struck by lightning twice in a row, with a collective "whoa!" from the little crowd each time.

And right in the middle of that, a manager appeared with a very worried-looking teen girl and a giant patio umbrella with a metal pole. He was ordering her to walk people to their cars with it, and when she tried to protest, he jumped down her throat about doing her job.

Several customers and I lit into him to basically say, "No, you farkwit, nobody is walking across the flat, open parking lot carrying a long metal pole in a lightning storm." We finally managed to get him to back off of his cunning plan, but he wasn't happy about it.
2013-06-02 09:24:02 PM
5 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-06-02 09:05:55 PM
5 votes:
Correct me if I am wrong (and I am sure many will) but I have always understood that you don't shelter under A tree during a thunderstorm but sheltering under trees is fine if it is a group and you are not near the tallest one. Did she and her son go into the three point crouch, grounding themselves, or did they just stand around watching and being the tallest thing on the field?
2013-06-02 06:16:58 PM
5 votes:

basemetal: Minus the threat of a tornado, why wouldn't you go to your car during a lightning storm?

/the coaches will catch hell


In the name of Daniel Faraday, THIS!
2013-06-02 05:34:30 PM
5 votes:
Shielding myself with a large piece of sheet metal, I ran for cover under the tallest tree I could find...

download.lardlad.com
2013-06-02 09:40:53 PM
4 votes:

MooseUpNorth: catmandu: Correct me if I am wrong (and I am sure many will) but I have always understood that you don't shelter under A tree during a thunderstorm but sheltering under trees is fine if it is a group and you are not near the tallest one.

Consider yourself corrected.


NOAA would like a word with you--catmandu is correct, provided there is no alternative (buildings, cars) for cover and the trees are low to the ground.

Ishkur: You're fine in the middle of a flat field during a lighting storm.

Just keep your feet together so you stay grounded.

/that is, if you don't have a car


And with you.


http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/outdoors.htm#near

These actions may  slightly reduce your risk of being struck by lightning:

Avoid open fields, the top of a hill or a ridge top.Stay away from tall, isolated trees or other tall objects. If you are in a forest, stay near a lower stand of trees.
Coaches were farking idiots and should be fired: Mom was also an idiot for standing around in an open field and not taking Junior straight to the car. From NOAA's outdoor sports guide:

No place OUTSIDE is safe in or near a thunderstorm. Stop what you are doing and get to a safe place immediately.  Small outdoor buildings including dugouts, rain shelters, sheds, etc., are NOT SAFE. Substantial buildings with wiring and plumbing are the safest places. Office buildings, schools, and homes offer good protection. Once inside, stay away from windows and doors and anything that conducts electricity such as corded phones, wiring, plumbing, and anything connected to these.

hard-topped metal vehicle with the windows closed also provides good protection. Avoid contact with metal in the vehicle and try to keep away from windows.
 
2013-06-02 05:28:59 PM
4 votes:
Probably better for her son not to be around such idiot adults.
2013-06-02 09:16:44 PM
3 votes:
Shoulda called the cops and had the coaches arrested for child endangerment.
2013-06-02 09:00:03 PM
3 votes:
Someone send them lots of pictures of golfers struck by lighting after taking shelter under trees. Oh, and that soccer team that all got killed after sheltering under an oak in England, that should enlighten them.
2013-06-02 08:55:57 PM
3 votes:
Shelter

www.maniacworld.com
2013-06-02 07:36:55 PM
3 votes:
Think evil of me, but I really really wish after the mother and son were kicked out, a lightning strike did hit the tree.

/would have Darwin showing who was the REAL law
2013-06-02 06:28:51 PM
3 votes:
On one hand, she is awesome for maintaining most of the common sense that seems to leak out of people's heads when they need it most, but on the other, she named her kid "Noa".  Eh. I'm still in your corner "refused to become a lightning-rod" lady!
2013-06-02 05:33:21 PM
3 votes:
Minus the threat of a tornado, why wouldn't you go to your car during a lightning storm?

/the coaches will catch hell
2013-06-03 12:44:21 AM
2 votes:

fst_creeper: BigRightRear: It will can only hit you if you  are grounded. Rubber tires make good insulators.

Ok, work with me here.  Lightning manages to travel through several thousand feet of air (an exceptionally good insulator) and you think that 3 inches of rubber is going to stop it?  Rubber that is typically heavily embedded with belts of steel?


Cars are safe to the extent that you are inside of a metal cage. The juice will flow on the outside of the cage and generally leave you safe. The rubber tires have nothing to do with it.
3.bp.blogspot.com

Oddly enough, this means that if you are on a playground with an old style
jungle gym, that's a good place to run too if you stay in the middle and don't touch the metal.
Not room for a full soccer team.
francies.files.wordpress.com
One of these domes would be good, if it were metal, but it's probably plastic. Again, if inside the cage.
www.domeclimber.com
2013-06-02 11:55:47 PM
2 votes:

pippi longstocking: Are you saying Americans are stupid and fascist? Since when?


Just you... for thinking Canada is a state in the USA... and, a soccer coach?


As for the article, I personally would not want my child on the team anymore... but, being my assholish self, I would go try my absolute damnedest to swear out a warrant for attempted murder to trying to get us to stand under a tree in a lightning storm, child endangerment at the LEAST, considering the well known results of such an ignorant maneuver!  If the warrant made it through, it would/may not stick (doubtfully) but it sure as hell would scare some sense into the morons (possibly.. they may actually be too far gone if they did not know about trees and lightning by the age of 4 or 5).

This is as bad as the the school/teachers not wanting the deaf child to use sign language to say his name because it looks somewhat like making a gun with his hand(s).. (submitted this to fark as STUPID, but apparently didn't get greened).
2013-06-02 10:42:11 PM
2 votes:

jaytkay: When I have a tiny dispute about a rain shower with child-league soccer coaches...

...I run to the press and make it international news!!


In this case I'm going to side with the boy's mother. By taking this to the press she ensured that the parents of the other children on the team knew what these lamebrained coaches did.

If I had a child on the team and the coaches did something that endangered their life I'd sure as hell want to know about it.
2013-06-02 10:32:37 PM
2 votes:

MooseUpNorth: Aigoo: MooseUpNorth: catmandu: Correct me if I am wrong (and I am sure many will) but I have always understood that you don't shelter under A tree during a thunderstorm but sheltering under trees is fine if it is a group and you are not near the tallest one.

Consider yourself corrected.

NOAA would like a word with you--catmandu is correct, provided there is no alternative (buildings, cars) for cover and the trees are low to the ground.

Excuse me, but you should re-compare your statement against catmandu's. They are quite different. Also, there's a world of difference between "if there's no sensible option available, this is slightly less dangerous" and "you're fine if". Standing under trees (plural) of any height just means that if/when one of them gets hit, and you're very very lucky, you might have another tree and/or a little distance between you and the flying splinters.

/  Was a hundred yards away from a large oak that got vanished by a lightning strike (with some other trees between me and it.) Safest place to be in that area was the bloody tents in the middle of a clearing.


http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/outdoors.htm
These actions may slightly reduce your risk of being struck by lightning:
Avoid open fields, the top of a hill or a ridge top.Stay away from tall, isolated trees or other tall objects. If you are in a forest, stay near a lower stand of trees.If you are camping in an open area, set up camp in a valley, ravine or other low area. Remember, a tent offers NO protection from lighting.and
http://rendezvous.nols.edu/files/Curriculum/research_projects/Risk%2 0M anagement%20Reports/NOLS%20Backcountry%20Lightning%20Safety%20Guidelin es.pdf
Tents may actually increase the likelihood of lightning hitting
that spot if they are higher than nearby objects.
2013-06-02 10:06:44 PM
2 votes:

eventhelosers: J Noble Daggett: catmandu: Correct me if I am wrong (and I am sure many will) but I have always understood that you don't shelter under A tree during a thunderstorm but sheltering under trees is fine if it is a group and you are not near the tallest one. Did she and her son go into the three point crouch, grounding themselves, or did they just stand around watching and being the tallest thing on the field?

You are correct that under a stand of trees is safer than in the middle of the field, provided you are not under the tallest trees. But this is "safer", not safe. Cars are generally safe. But let's not distract people from their outrage fix.

Unless your being an arse like me your wrong.  If your within range of the root structure your still toast, and root structures are interconnected.  Lay flat on the ground away from trees if you can't quickly move to a safe shelter.


Nobody is "right" in that there is no safe place outdoors in a lightening storm. Kneeling, crouching in an open field? Not good but better than standing.
Under tallest tree = worst. Standing in field, 2nd worst.
The "experts" cannot generically answer if certain trees are safer than laying out in the field. Closer to the trees but not under them is probably better than directly under them where you will be partially sheltered from the rain, except not being as wet is also good to avoid being affected by a nearby strike which will affect a greater radius if it hits wet ground.

Ultimately, if they sheltered under some smaller trees when there were larger trees somewhat nearby, versus staying out in the field, they probably reduced their risk. Depends on the trees, how much smaller, what else is around, but nether is particularly safe. Both in fact are dangerous.

Here's a tip. If you feel a tingle, hair start standing up, move. It gives you a small chance of being injured less. But don't stick your tongue out as you run.
2013-06-02 09:57:26 PM
2 votes:
catmandu: Correct me if I am wrong (and I am sure many will) but I have always understood that you don't shelter under A tree during a thunderstorm but sheltering under trees is fine if it is a group and you are not near the tallest one. Did she and her son go into the three point crouch, grounding themselves, or did they just stand around watching and being the tallest thing on the field?

That is what we were told in a wilderness survival class. (Cool class, had to make an effective atlatl with the items I had on me to pass)
2013-06-02 09:44:58 PM
2 votes:

catmandu: Correct me if I am wrong (and I am sure many will) but I have always understood that you don't shelter under A tree during a thunderstorm but sheltering under trees is fine if it is a group and you are not near the tallest one. Did she and her son go into the three point crouch, grounding themselves, or did they just stand around watching and being the tallest thing on the field?


Sheltering under a stand of low trees is safer than standing in a field, but on a good day a lightning strike can kill everything that isn't grounded for a mile or so around.
2013-06-02 09:38:02 PM
2 votes:

J Noble Daggett: catmandu: Correct me if I am wrong (and I am sure many will) but I have always understood that you don't shelter under A tree during a thunderstorm but sheltering under trees is fine if it is a group and you are not near the tallest one. Did she and her son go into the three point crouch, grounding themselves, or did they just stand around watching and being the tallest thing on the field?

You are correct that under a stand of trees is safer than in the middle of the field, provided you are not under the tallest trees. But this is "safer", not safe. Cars are generally safe. But let's not distract people from their outrage fix.


Unless your being an arse like me your wrong.  If your within range of the root structure your still toast, and root structures are interconnected.  Lay flat on the ground away from trees if you can't quickly move to a safe shelter.
2013-06-02 09:37:00 PM
2 votes:

MagSeven: On one hand, she is awesome for maintaining most of the common sense that seems to leak out of people's heads when they need it most, but on the other, she named her kid "Noa".  Eh. I'm still in your corner "refused to become a lightning-rod" lady!


Don't be concerned about the name. By her name she sounds Portuguese and Noa is a Spanish/Portguese name.

I've seen a cow that got hit under a tree after a storm. Wasn't dead but...melted eyeball and crippled.
2013-06-02 09:32:03 PM
2 votes:

MooseUpNorth: catmandu: Correct me if I am wrong (and I am sure many will) but I have always understood that you don't shelter under A tree during a thunderstorm but sheltering under trees is fine if it is a group and you are not near the tallest one.

Consider yourself corrected.


http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/outdoors.htm
These actions may slightly reduce your risk of being struck by lightning:
Avoid open fields, the top of a hill or a ridge top.Stay away from tall, isolated trees or other tall objects. If you are in a forest, stay near a lower stand of trees.
2013-06-02 09:30:09 PM
2 votes:
Nothing like the combination of arrogance and stupidity to make one hate humanity that much more.
2013-06-02 09:28:35 PM
2 votes:

Amusement: When lightening hits a tree it's like a frag grenade.  Creating wood splinters because it has a resistance to electricity.  Prefer sitting in a car during a lightning storm.  Just don't touch anything metal.


Touching metal in the car won't hurt you in a lightning strike. Lightning is a surface effect. A live wire laying across your car means don't touch any metal.

/no it is not the rubber tires that protect you in you car, it is the metal.
2013-06-02 09:21:09 PM
2 votes:
Probably a school league.

i306.photobucket.com
2013-06-02 09:19:50 PM
2 votes:

catmandu: Correct me if I am wrong (and I am sure many will) but I have always understood that you don't shelter under A tree during a thunderstorm but sheltering under trees is fine if it is a group and you are not near the tallest one.


Consider yourself corrected.
2013-06-02 09:08:29 PM
2 votes:

basemetal: Minus the threat of a tornado, why wouldn't you go to your car during a lightning storm?


And don't leave. Someone has to call 911, so they can notify the coroner.
2013-06-02 09:06:55 PM
2 votes:
Lightning... Yea, wait it out in the car. One of the safest places you can be during lightning.
2013-06-02 09:06:14 PM
2 votes:
even if you are ignorant to how electricity works, you have to be a farking caveperson to think a tree is going to protect you from lightning.
2013-06-02 09:02:23 PM
2 votes:
Should've named the kid NOAA.
2013-06-02 08:57:26 PM
2 votes:
Honestly those coaches should be fired.
2013-06-02 07:29:32 PM
2 votes:

MagSeven: On one hand, she is awesome for maintaining most of the common sense that seems to leak out of people's heads when they need it most, but on the other, she named her kid "Noa".


It would have been ironic if she'd named him "Noaa".

Or maybe not. Too much time on Fark and I don't think I understand irony anymore.
2013-06-02 06:44:06 PM
2 votes:
Oliveria said she is both "shocked and concerned"
That's usually code for I'm a busybody with nothing else to do but whine.  But whole lee shiat those coaches need a little science in their diet.
2013-06-02 05:46:20 PM
2 votes:
Kid's sports is dominated by assholes? When did this happen?
2013-06-03 09:30:23 AM
1 votes:

stu1-1: To  eventhelosers:
The point you're trying to make is that lightning will conduct through tree roots.
I'm not disputing that, but lightning will not jump back up out of the ground from the roots once it's there.
There are cases where people and animals have been struck just by standing near a tree that's been hit.
In those cases, the lightning conducted through wet grass or standing water on it's way to ground.

If you can find me one case where someone or some animal was struck by lightning from tree roots,
I will vote "SMART" on every post you've made here.


http://www.esdjournal.com/articles/Lightning/Fowler/sc%20fowler.htm

www.ces.ncsu.edu

I observed the scene (days later) of the Camp Webb strike.  Google "lightning through roots" and take of your pick if you are still not satisfied.  I apologize for the personal attack, the aliens weren't very gentle with the probe last time and my hemorrhoids are killing me.
2013-06-03 06:18:49 AM
1 votes:
Roll an imaginary 60-meter sphere across the landscape and look at where it touches.

what-if.xkcd.com

To figure out where lightning is likely to hit, you roll the imaginary 60-meter sphere across the landscape (for safety reasons, do not use a real sphere). This sphere climbs up over trees and buildings without passing through anything (or rolling it up). Places the surface makes contact - treetops, fenceposts, and golfers in fields - are potential lightning targets.

This means you can calculate a lightning "shadow" around an object of height h on a flat surface.

 http://what-if.xkcd.com/16/
2013-06-03 03:26:28 AM
1 votes:

BigRightRear: Ishkur: You're fine in the middle of a flat field during a lighting storm.

Just keep your feet together so you stay grounded.

/that is, if you don't have a car

It will can only hit you if you  are grounded. Rubber tires make good insulators.


You don't say.
www.flightglobal.com
2013-06-03 12:19:49 AM
1 votes:

Canton: No way. Remember, lightning is not the only thing that can hit a tree during a storm. Thunderstorms can be accompanied by strong winds as well. I don't mean tornadoes. (Those are rarer, albeit hella strong.) I mean straight-line winds and downbursts. Frankly, I'd be more worried about being struck by a falling limb than by lightning. Sheltering under a group of trees just means more risk of a really stupid head injury.


Definitely. Googling for 'killed by falling tree' results in pages of news stories.  Leads one to believe that deaths and injuries of that nature are common and under reported. Also falling power lines are not uncommon either. Once saw a power line fall to the ground.  Bunch of sparks, then the nothing, minute later more sparks as a breaker reset. General rule, stay away as a fallen power line can be dead one moment and live the next and power lines are not insulated.
2013-06-03 12:14:50 AM
1 votes:

BigRightRear: It will can only hit you if you  are grounded. Rubber tires make good insulators.


Ok, work with me here.  Lightning manages to travel through several thousand feet of air (an exceptionally good insulator) and you think that 3 inches of rubber is going to stop it?  Rubber that is typically heavily embedded with belts of steel?
2.bp.blogspot.com

/This guy frowns at your notion

BummerDuck: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Sullivan


Roy comes out sounding a little nutty after a while but damn after 7 documented strikes he gets to be as nutty as he likes.
2013-06-02 11:48:36 PM
1 votes:
lack of warmth:Phil Moskowitz: People who end up being adult soccer coaches of children collectively aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer? That's a shock(electrical). I hope these remedial bastards get fired for trying their feeble hands at authoritarianism.

I agree with that.  Most I have encountered never played the game themselves and took it up because they weren't good at baseball.  Other than kick the ball and run, they really don't teach play strategy.  I pity the coaches in the older youth leagues.  As in the 12 yro and up leagues where playing time isn't guaranteed and snowflakes find out what the bench really feels like.


I had a couple of great coaches when I was a kid. Granted, this was elementary school, and I was one of two girls on a co-ed team, but the coach and assistant coach did teach some strategy and basic techniques. And they didn't ignore the girls on the team, which was admirable. I ended up on left defense much of the time, because I could actually kick with my left foot. Good times.

Of course, my brother's go at soccer was short, due to a coach who was kind of a jerk. He was not sympathetic with my brother's medical issues -- and related endurance issues -- and turned my brother off of the sport for good.

So maybe I just lucked out.

/CSS
2013-06-02 11:03:37 PM
1 votes:
I hate to characterize these athletic coaches as dullards and bullies, but they seems to be OK acting like that.
2013-06-02 10:59:01 PM
1 votes:
Roy Sullivan would probably disagree that there are any safe places.

Ofc, in his case, he pissed of *something*...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Sullivan
2013-06-02 10:57:52 PM
1 votes:

catmandu: Correct me if I am wrong (and I am sure many will) but I have always understood that you don't shelter under A tree during a thunderstorm but sheltering under trees is fine if it is a group and you are not near the tallest one. Did she and her son go into the three point crouch, grounding themselves, or did they just stand around watching and being the tallest thing on the field?


No way. Remember, lightning is not the only thing that can hit a tree during a storm. Thunderstorms can be accompanied by strong winds as well. I don't mean tornadoes. (Those are rarer, albeit hella strong.) I mean straight-line winds and downbursts. Frankly, I'd be more worried about being struck by a falling limb than by lightning. Sheltering under a group of trees just means more risk of a really stupid head injury.

Thunderstorm on the way? Go the fark indoors.
2013-06-02 10:49:44 PM
1 votes:

Bender The Offender: sno man: Oliveria said she is both "shocked and concerned"
That's usually code for I'm a busybody with nothing else to do but whine.  But whole lee shiat those coaches need a little science in their diet.

Are you as it ignorant of science as you are of technology? There's a moronic group of adults putting kids' life at risk, and while it doesn't necessarily play in the pathetic little narrative where you're better than everyone in the article, it's pretty farking shocking and concerning that their are idiots in this world that will tell a group of children to stand under a tree during a thunderstorm. I think you and the coaches must have spawned from the same education system.


Read what I typed again Rookie. especially the part I bold for you. I get you really want to think I'm an idiot. Fine. Whatever. But dude...
reading 101...
2013-06-02 10:33:31 PM
1 votes:

sno man: Oliveria said she is both "shocked and concerned"
That's usually code for I'm a busybody with nothing else to do but whine.  But whole lee shiat those coaches need a little science in their diet.


Are you as it ignorant of science as you are of technology? There's a moronic group of adults putting kids' life at risk, and while it doesn't necessarily play in the pathetic little narrative where you're better than everyone in the article, it's pretty farking shocking and concerning that their are idiots in this world that will tell a group of children to stand under a tree during a thunderstorm. I think you and the coaches must have spawned from the same education system.
2013-06-02 10:15:06 PM
1 votes:

Aigoo: MooseUpNorth: catmandu: Correct me if I am wrong (and I am sure many will) but I have always understood that you don't shelter under A tree during a thunderstorm but sheltering under trees is fine if it is a group and you are not near the tallest one.

Consider yourself corrected.

NOAA would like a word with you--catmandu is correct, provided there is no alternative (buildings, cars) for cover and the trees are low to the ground.


Excuse me, but you should re-compare your statement against catmandu's. They are quite different. Also, there's a world of difference between "if there's no sensible option available, this is slightly less dangerous" and "you're fine if". Standing under trees (plural) of any height just means that if/when one of them gets hit, and you're very very lucky, you might have another tree and/or a little distance between you and the flying splinters.

/  Was a hundred yards away from a large oak that got vanished by a lightning strike (with some other trees between me and it.) Safest place to be in that area was the bloody tents in the middle of a clearing.
2013-06-02 10:04:35 PM
1 votes:

Firebelle: People are idiots. A few years ago, I was in Walmart (don't judge me) when a massive thunderstorm rolled in. The sky was dark and the rain was pouring in sheets as I checked out, so I ended up standing by the front windows with other shoppers waiting for it to let up. We all watched as a tall industrial tower across the street was struck by lightning twice in a row, with a collective "whoa!" from the little crowd each time.

And right in the middle of that, a manager appeared with a very worried-looking teen girl and a giant patio umbrella with a metal pole. He was ordering her to walk people to their cars with it, and when she tried to protest, he jumped down her throat about doing her job.

Several customers and I lit into him to basically say, "No, you farkwit, nobody is walking across the flat, open parking lot carrying a long metal pole in a lightning storm." We finally managed to get him to back off of his cunning plan, but he wasn't happy about it.


If I was in your group there I would've held up my phone showing it ready to call the cops and tell that idiot manager that I would (try) to have him arrested for attempted murder if he sent anyone out.
2013-06-02 10:02:20 PM
1 votes:
As for one who was punished for his stupidity and ignorance by his Lightening Overloads, this simpleton will never tempt their wrath again and will follow follow best practices to not attract their attention.
2013-06-02 09:57:19 PM
1 votes:
http://southkeysgreenboro.com/contact/

If you'd like to tell them how stupid they are directly. this appears to be their website.
2013-06-02 09:54:50 PM
1 votes:
"The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right."

Mark Twain
2013-06-02 09:49:03 PM
1 votes:
CSB time:

When I was in 9th grade, we went on a class field trip to some lake (just for the day). In the middle of the field trip, a big lightning storm rolls in. So my SCIENCE teacher (Chemistry, but still) tells us to go stand under the tall, lonely tree. I do for about 3 seconds, and then remember "idiot, that's NOT where you're supposed to be!"
So I took off running (for about 1 mile) towards better shelter. I was a real fatty then, so the only way I made it was through pure adrenaline. Everybody thought I was a dumbass, only because they got lucky and DIDN'T get struck by lightning.

/CSB time

/Now a meteorologist
2013-06-02 09:46:50 PM
1 votes:
Could they have found a more unflattering angle for that photo?
2013-06-02 09:46:32 PM
1 votes:

dogboy360: Amusement: When lightening hits a tree it's like a frag grenade.  Creating wood splinters because it has a resistance to electricity.  Prefer sitting in a car during a lightning storm.  Just don't touch anything metal.

Touching metal in the car won't hurt you in a lightning strike. Lightning is a surface effect. A live wire laying across your car means don't touch any metal.

/no it is not the rubber tires that protect you in you car, it is the metal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve6XGKZxYxA  2:58 seconds into video.  Enjoy education.
2013-06-02 09:43:30 PM
1 votes:

The_Original_Roxtar: pippi longstocking: Are you saying Americans are stupid and fascist? Since when?

Since Ottawa was annexed by New York.


To be fair, a friend of mine from Ottawa has described the place as filled with civil servants, mindlessly rule following nitwits, political reactionaries, and drunk weirdos.
2013-06-02 09:36:53 PM
1 votes:

pippi longstocking: Are you saying Americans are stupid and fascist? Since when?


An Ottawa mom is outraged after being kicked off a soccer field because she and her son wouldn't take shelter under trees during a thunderstorm.

RTFA
2013-06-02 09:33:19 PM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: Was looking for examples of  people under trees who were struck by lightning when I found this  one about a guy on a motorcycle who took a bolt through his penis.

Doctors said there would be "no lasting effects."


Except bragging rights.
2013-06-02 09:33:06 PM
1 votes:

Firebelle: People are idiots. A few years ago, I was in Walmart (don't judge me) when a massive thunderstorm rolled in. The sky was dark and the rain was pouring in sheets as I checked out, so I ended up standing by the front windows with other shoppers waiting for it to let up. We all watched as a tall industrial tower across the street was struck by lightning twice in a row, with a collective "whoa!" from the little crowd each time.

And right in the middle of that, a manager appeared with a very worried-looking teen girl and a giant patio umbrella with a metal pole. He was ordering her to walk people to their cars with it, and when she tried to protest, he jumped down her throat about doing her job.

Several customers and I lit into him to basically say, "No, you farkwit, nobody is walking across the flat, open parking lot carrying a long metal pole in a lightning storm." We finally managed to get him to back off of his cunning plan, but he wasn't happy about it.


Good.
2013-06-02 09:29:47 PM
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the_chief: Shoulda called the cops and had the coaches arrested for child endangerment.


Unless the league has it in it's written laws the reasons why they can kick out someone or ask them to leave, the police would have kindly told them to shut up and play soccer.
2013-06-02 09:25:29 PM
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>Richard Richards: Better come in till this blows over.
>Bishop: What do you think, fella?
>Carl Spackler: I'd keep playing. I don't think the heavy stuff's gonna come down for quite awhile.
>Bishop: You're right. Anyway, the Good Lord would never disrupt the best game of my life.
[THUNDER]
2013-06-02 09:22:30 PM
1 votes:
You're fine in the middle of a flat field during a lighting storm.

Just keep your feet together so you stay grounded.

/that is, if you don't have a car
2013-06-02 09:17:45 PM
1 votes:
"Twenty two years ago on May 17th a tremendous thunderstorm rolled through Northwest DC and surrounding suburbs. Lightning struck spectators on the campus of St. Albans.

Some of the spectators ran to their car for cover and to some buildings close to the field; some however, took shelter under a large tree breaking the fundamental rule in lightning safety. You never want to make yourself or be near the tallest object in the landscape. Lightning struck that tree. The lightning traveled down the trunk and along the big roots that were exposed from the ground. Fred Laughlin was standing next to Noah Eig [one of the fatalities] under the tree."

WUSA9, Washington DC
2013-06-02 09:17:00 PM
1 votes:
It doesn't matter whether they were correct or not.  They were the officials in charge of situation.  You must always obey the officials who are in charge.  Continue to teach your children this please.
2013-06-02 09:14:51 PM
1 votes:
Years ago I did a bicycle ride called the Markleeville Death Ride. Making my way up one of the passes, I rode right into a thunderhead. It was raining pretty hard, and there was lightning and thunder all around, but I just kept on climbing. I was shocked at how many people were taking shelter under the pine trees. It was the same day that some climbers were injured (one died) on Mt. Whitney in a stone shelter. At any rate, I felt my odds of being struck on my bicycle were lower than if I were to stand below a tall pine tree.
2013-06-02 09:13:09 PM
1 votes:
anonuk.anonsource.org

Names and phone numbers of these retarded tree huggers?  Please?
2013-06-02 09:00:42 PM
1 votes:

Quantum Apostrophe: OtherLittleGuy: basemetal: Minus the threat of a tornado, why wouldn't you go to your car during a lightning storm?

/the coaches will catch hell

In the name of Daniel Faraday, THIS!

Who's that?


This guy.
i226.photobucket.com

I think he meant Louis Farrakhan instead.
2013-06-02 08:59:05 PM
1 votes:
When I have a tiny dispute about a rain shower with child-league soccer coaches...

...I run to the press and make it international news!!
2013-06-02 08:05:47 PM
1 votes:

OtherLittleGuy: Think evil of me, but I really really wish after the mother and son were kicked out, a lightning strike did hit the tree.

/would have Darwin showing who was the REAL law


i50.tinypic.com
2013-06-02 07:42:59 PM
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PapaChester: Good to know that the anti-science crowd is not found only down here in the states.



Heh....This.
2013-06-02 06:09:26 PM
1 votes:
Good to know that the anti-science crowd is not found only down here in the states.
2013-06-02 05:03:30 PM
1 votes:
The stupid, it burns!
 
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