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(Kotaku)   Microsoft: "The only reason we will have TV screens on stage at E3 will be to show our Xbox One games. So please shut the fark up"   (kotaku.com) divider line 166
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2013-05-31 06:50:16 PM  
HAHA XBONE DOG AMIRITE!

/silly Internet
 
2013-05-31 06:50:35 PM  
No amount of games will change blatant anti-consumer policies.

Unless they announce the removal of the 24-hour check in, their anti-used games policy and the restrictive DRM, it's still a terrible console.
 
2013-05-31 06:51:43 PM  
It's too late for game consoles.

They should have started the next generation 2 years ago. These consoles will be successful if they manage "lackluster" sales levels. Most people today have figured out they can connect PCs to their TVs, or spend endless hours playing games on their phones and tablets (usually while the TV is blaring away in front of them). The next generation has enough gotchas to turn off hardcore gamers in droves. Microsoft's TV strategy is lame. ...and let's not forget the DRM becoming punishing to legitimate owners in this new round.


It's way too late. I've been a big scene guy for the past decade, moderate several console scene forums, and of course own a slew of gaming devices and consoles.  I have ZERO intention of buying an Xbox One, PS4 or Wii U - even if they hack them.

Like portable gaming, consoles are in their twilight. The heyday is over.
 
2013-05-31 06:52:30 PM  
I don't really see the point of this 'new generation' outside of clamping down on used game sellers.  Count me out.

/a shame, really
//might as well just start making OSes for games at this point
 
2013-05-31 06:58:09 PM  
The problem is they think they just didn't talk enough about games. I don't think they realize what a problem always online is for people. i doubt they'll say anything at E3 about it at all.
 
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2013-05-31 07:03:54 PM  

Cheater71: The problem is they think they just didn't talk enough about games. I don't think they realize what a problem always online is for people. i doubt they'll say anything at E3 about it at all.


This. If they just had that "reveal" and hadn't said anything else, wait til E3 would be acceptable. Now? Too little, too late.
 
2013-05-31 07:03:55 PM  
Call of Duty, Halo, Halo, Halo, Call of Duty, Gears of War. TV.
 
2013-05-31 07:06:12 PM  
They said that before the launched the damn thing, but the intertubes is full of morons. People couldn't wait 19 farking days before going batshiat insane.
/Meanwhile Sony haven't showed shiat, but a controller.
 
2013-05-31 07:11:34 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: /Meanwhile Sony haven't showed shiat, but a controller.


Isn't that the most important part? I don't fondle the box while I'm playing games.
 
2013-05-31 07:12:16 PM  
Mr. Fuzzypaws: Call of Duty, Halo, Halo, Halo, Call of Duty, Gears of War. TV.

You got the order wrong.

It's

TV TV TV, Sports, TV TV TV, Watercooler, callofdutycallofdutycallofdutycallofdutycallofduty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw
 
2013-05-31 07:13:37 PM  
Microsoft farked up big time.  If they can't take the criticism, they need to close up their Xbox division.
 
2013-05-31 07:13:46 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: They said that before the launched the damn thing, but the intertubes is full of morons. People couldn't wait 19 farking days before going batshiat insane.
/Meanwhile Sony haven't showed shiat, but a controller.


People were angry about what was said after the reveal. they could have waited for E3 for the games, although maybe showing some in game footage (not cut scenes) might have been nice. But what really bothers people is the always online and the restrictions against used games.
 
2013-05-31 07:15:51 PM  
Woo!

Two threads in one day?!?

The mods obviously know what side they like their bread buttered.

/unleash the trolls!
 
2013-05-31 07:16:13 PM  

Cheater71: The problem is they think they just didn't talk enough about games.


It seems like ever since Windows 8, Microsoft have been masters of missing the point.

MS: "Windows 8! Now your expensive desktop works just like a smartphone!"
Buyers: "What the fark is this? The Start Screen is awful. I want a desktop environment."
MS: "Here's your Start button! It takes you directly to the Start Screen!"
Buyers: "Eat a dick."

MS: "XBox One! Games are tied to accounts, it's always watching you, and anyone without internet is SOL!"
Buyers: "That sounds like the worst gaming console ever."
MS: "Sorry! Let's talk about some games then."
Buyers: "Eat a dick."
 
2013-05-31 07:19:16 PM  
Don't mention the TV
 
2013-05-31 07:20:32 PM  
My latest gaming console.


www.ntrautanen.fi

/hot link.
 
2013-05-31 07:21:29 PM  

I Like Bread: Cheater71: The problem is they think they just didn't talk enough about games.

It seems like ever since Windows 8, Microsoft have been masters of missing the point.

MS: "Windows 8! Now your expensive desktop works just like a smartphone!"
Buyers: "What the fark is this? The Start Screen is awful. I want a desktop environment."
MS: "Here's your Start button! It takes you directly to the Start Screen!"
Buyers: "Eat a dick."

MS: "XBox One! Games are tied to accounts, it's always watching you, and anyone without internet is SOL!"
Buyers: "That sounds like the worst gaming console ever."
MS: "Sorry! Let's talk about some games then."
Buyers: "Eat a dick."


I totally agree, but when the miller-lite-of-gamer's only alternative is Sony's stuff, man that's totally the choice of shiatsandwich or douchebag.

/Come to the right side, Lukes, we have Steam and consoles and their silly little marketing orgy can be properly laughed at from atop the clouds of Mt. Smug.
 
2013-05-31 07:23:42 PM  

Mr. Fuzzypaws: drjekel_mrhyde: /Meanwhile Sony haven't showed shiat, but a controller.

Isn't that the most important part? I don't fondle the box while I'm playing games.


People cried about that also. If people are only interested in games they would have a Wii U by now. Sony market the PS3 as a all in one machine that console entire generation. Microsoft market a machine as a all in one, that's not even out yet, and people go ape shiat.
/I might be bias because I'm mostly about media and games second.
//I love the idea that Xbox one can cover over cablecos and telcos ugly and horrid UIs. If Uverse let's you use it as a STB(like with the 360) that's even better. Blu-ray, Game console, STB, and Netflix all in one box is pure win for me
 
2013-05-31 07:25:02 PM  

BumpInTheNight: I Like Bread: Cheater71: The problem is they think they just didn't talk enough about games.

It seems like ever since Windows 8, Microsoft have been masters of missing the point.

MS: "Windows 8! Now your expensive desktop works just like a smartphone!"
Buyers: "What the fark is this? The Start Screen is awful. I want a desktop environment."
MS: "Here's your Start button! It takes you directly to the Start Screen!"
Buyers: "Eat a dick."

MS: "XBox One! Games are tied to accounts, it's always watching you, and anyone without internet is SOL!"
Buyers: "That sounds like the worst gaming console ever."
MS: "Sorry! Let's talk about some games then."
Buyers: "Eat a dick."

I totally agree, but when the miller-lite-of-gamer's only alternative is Sony's stuff, man that's totally the choice of shiatsandwich or douchebag.

/Come to the right side, Lukes, we have Steam and consoles and their silly little marketing orgy can be properly laughed at from atop the clouds of Mt. Smug.


Can't we do both?

Must we choose?
 
2013-05-31 07:27:13 PM  

BumpInTheNight: I Like Bread: Cheater71: The problem is they think they just didn't talk enough about games.

It seems like ever since Windows 8, Microsoft have been masters of missing the point.

MS: "Windows 8! Now your expensive desktop works just like a smartphone!"
Buyers: "What the fark is this? The Start Screen is awful. I want a desktop environment."
MS: "Here's your Start button! It takes you directly to the Start Screen!"
Buyers: "Eat a dick."

MS: "XBox One! Games are tied to accounts, it's always watching you, and anyone without internet is SOL!"
Buyers: "That sounds like the worst gaming console ever."
MS: "Sorry! Let's talk about some games then."
Buyers: "Eat a dick."

I totally agree, but when the miller-lite-of-gamer's only alternative is Sony's stuff, man that's totally the choice of shiatsandwich or douchebag.

/Come to the right side, Lukes, we have Steam and consoles and their silly little marketing orgy can be properly laughed at from atop the clouds of Mt. Smug.


We also don't tell Indie developers to stay in their own little corner until we say it's okay to come out.
 
2013-05-31 07:28:10 PM  

LoR75: Can't we do both?

Must we choose?


Oh absolutely, but why would you buy the eye of sauron living room edition when you could just take that money and buy the best video card on the market and call it a day?
 
2013-05-31 07:32:48 PM  

BumpInTheNight: LoR75: Can't we do both?

Must we choose?

Oh absolutely, but why would you buy the eye of sauron living room edition when you could just take that money and buy the best video card on the market and call it a day?


HAHA, that's the best description for the Xbox One yet!  EoS:LRE for short.  Has a nice ring to it.
 
2013-05-31 07:40:51 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Mr. Fuzzypaws: drjekel_mrhyde: /Meanwhile Sony haven't showed shiat, but a controller.

Isn't that the most important part? I don't fondle the box while I'm playing games.

People cried about that also. If people are only interested in games they would have a Wii U by now. Sony market the PS3 as a all in one machine that console entire generation. Microsoft market a machine as a all in one, that's not even out yet, and people go ape shiat.
/I might be bias because I'm mostly about media and games second.
//I love the idea that Xbox one can cover over cablecos and telcos ugly and horrid UIs. If Uverse let's you use it as a STB(like with the 360) that's even better. Blu-ray, Game console, STB, and Netflix all in one box is pure win for me


It's not all in one box.

The Xbox One will have to be connected to your cable box with an IR blaster and an HDMI in (which certainly will cause no issues, no sir!). You will probably lose a ton of functionality of your Cable box DVR. Passthrough is just a horribly kludgy way of handling TV integration.

If this thing handled cable cards... Meh. If it handled cable cards and had multiple tuners (4 is pretty much the minimum these days), maybe.

There just is no compelling reason. I have many devices hooked up to my 58" Samsung plasma Smart TV. It's not hard to navigate when you have one of these:

img2u.info
and I have full functionality of every device.

Sorry, but the TV functions of the Xbox One are neutered nonsense. While I occasionally want to look up something on IMDB while watching a show or movie, usually the REST of the people watching with me do not. Fantasy team stats while watching sports? Really? Fantasy sports fans are junkies, almost as bad as heroin addicts... why not just ship Xbox Ones with a lifetime supply of needles? Why pander to that crowd? Oh yeah... because the execs pushing this stuff are probably Fantasy sports nuts (and not gamers)

You are still going to have to have your cable box out, only with an ugly IR blaster stuck to the face of it. You'd still need an A/V Receiver for decent audio. You can eliminate a blu-ray player... whooptie freakin' doo. I could go without one and wouldn't miss it - my TV can play MKVs, MP4s, AVIs, and WMVs without blinking - and it can stream NetFlix and a dozen other online services. I can't remember the last time I played an optical disc

In short, there is exactly one thing I'd need an Xbox One or PS4 for - the games, and to be honest, I have a HUGE backlog of Steam games on my PC to play, and a huge library of games on my PS3 and Xbox 360 (and stacks of PS2 and Xbox games). The DRM in the new systems is overreaching and punishes legitimate users.

There really is very little in the way of compelling reasons to get one of these new consoles.
 
2013-05-31 07:41:29 PM  
Microsoft Spokesperson:
That should be the extend of TV talk in your E3

extend
extend
extend
extend


Are you kidding me?
 
2013-05-31 07:42:05 PM  

Cheater71: The problem is they think they just didn't talk enough about games. I don't think they realize what a problem always online is for people. i doubt they'll say anything at E3 about it at all.


Right now all Kazuo Hirai has to do at E3 is show the Xbox reveal montage, walk on stage with a microphone and say "No always online, no blocking used games" then pull back a curtain to unveil the new console, turn to the audience again and say "Playstation 4, it's not the XBox1.", drop the mic and walk off to a PS4 game highlight reel.

/he won't, but he should
 
2013-05-31 07:44:04 PM  
LesserEvil : The Xbox One will have to be connected to your cable box with an IR blaster and an HDMI in (which certainly will cause no issues, no sir!). You will probably lose a ton of functionality of your Cable box DVR

I don't have a cable box, I have a TiVo.

// Am I correct in assuming that cable company DVRs are still POSes built by the lowest bidder?
 
2013-05-31 07:49:18 PM  

croesius: Microsoft Spokesperson:
That should be the extend of TV talk in your E3

extend
extend
extend
extend

Are you kidding me?


Must have the other E3 on his mind.

/embrace, extend, . . . you know the drill.
 
2013-05-31 07:49:36 PM  
I'm sure this will offend the glorious PC gaming master race and their smug sense of superiority, but I love my Xbox 360 and live subscription, and I love the business model that has grown up around it, and I see the Xbox One as continuing that success.

Look, I'm a filthy casual gamer. I love the XBLA games, and play games like Snoopy Flying Aces, Spleunky, Fez, Counterstrike GO, various iterations of Worms, Splosion man, the Trials games, (etc) daily. All of which were titles I bought for $15 at most. XBLA has, in my opinion, the single best thing about the Xbox, and it is by far where I have spent the most money (apart from the system and subscription itself).

I haven't bought a game on disc since my wife bought the latest iteration of Halo for me for Christmas - which I played but didn't finish. I have never played a COD game and could care less about them. I don't care about trading in used games because I don't buy major titles often; and when I do they are older title that I purchase online and download through live.

All of that brings me to the following conclusion - I don't care about always on - my 360 is always connected anyways. I don't care about trading games - I rarely buy disks an don't sell the off or lend them out when I do. As long as the ecosystem there is to support the digital download of small, cheap, fun games, I will buy the Xbox One.

So Microsoft is marketing to people like me, glorious PC gaming master race, and not you. And I'm willing to bet there are more of me out there than there are of you. So suck it.
 
2013-05-31 07:51:34 PM  
Don't forget the lack of backwards compatibility... That's on top of my list of gripes for this one.
 
2013-05-31 08:01:42 PM  
I will bet $1000 that they don't make it the entire show without referencing TV at least once
 
2013-05-31 08:04:39 PM  
Elegy:
So Microsoft is marketing to people like me, glorious PC gaming master race, and not you. And I'm willing to bet there are more of me out there than there are of you. So suck it.

I play video games on my iPad.  There are more of me than there are of you, no if's, buts or need to bet about it.   About 15 - 20 million more me's than you's in fact.   So why don't YOU suck it.

/Long and hard.
//A little more suck a little less teeth thanks.
 
2013-05-31 08:04:51 PM  

Elegy: I'm sure this will offend the glorious PC gaming master race and their smug sense of superiority, but I love my Xbox 360 and live subscription, and I love the business model that has grown up around it, and I see the Xbox One as continuing that success.

Look, I'm a filthy casual gamer. I love the XBLA games, and play games like Snoopy Flying Aces, Spleunky, Fez, Counterstrike GO, various iterations of Worms, Splosion man, the Trials games, (etc) daily. All of which were titles I bought for $15 at most. XBLA has, in my opinion, the single best thing about the Xbox, and it is by far where I have spent the most money (apart from the system and subscription itself).

I haven't bought a game on disc since my wife bought the latest iteration of Halo for me for Christmas - which I played but didn't finish. I have never played a COD game and could care less about them. I don't care about trading in used games because I don't buy major titles often; and when I do they are older title that I purchase online and download through live.

All of that brings me to the following conclusion - I don't care about always on - my 360 is always connected anyways. I don't care about trading games - I rarely buy disks an don't sell the off or lend them out when I do. As long as the ecosystem there is to support the digital download of small, cheap, fun games, I will buy the Xbox One.

So Microsoft is marketing to people like me, glorious PC gaming master race, and not you. And I'm willing to bet there are more of me out there than there are of you. So suck it.


You sound like someone who should see what Steam's greenlight initiate has to offer, and then what the SteamBox has to offer.  Its your console at your TV, beneath it all is pure glorious PC master gaming race (with Linuxy nerd-creds atop of that) and the sheer multitude of indie devs hooked into that atop of just being able to access the rest of the ones that haven't gone that route...yah get on that buddy.

Eye of Sauron:  Living Room Edition not included.
 
2013-05-31 08:07:11 PM  
I don't get the fuss over graphics or generations or whatever. I played the shiat out of games like X-Men Legends and FF12 on PS2. Fire Emblem Awakening is my current ugly ass favorite.
 
2013-05-31 08:19:02 PM  

Vaneshi: Elegy:
So Microsoft is marketing to people like me, glorious PC gaming master race, and not you. And I'm willing to bet there are more of me out there than there are of you. So suck it.

I play video games on my iPad.  There are more of me than there are of you, no if's, buts or need to bet about it.   About 15 - 20 million more me's than you's in fact.   So why don't YOU suck it.

/Long and hard.
//A little more suck a little less teeth thanks.


iPad? You need one of these:

img2u.info
I love mine. Fantastic with retro games. More enjoyable than playing those same games on my big screen TV.
 
2013-05-31 08:20:14 PM  
the big problems with xbox one are, in order of annoyance:

1.) Always on kinect camera, turning the xbone into a Telescreen straight out of 1984. We are supposed to be comforted by the fact that you can "Turn the console off" and have the camera go off. Why does it need to be on when I watch movies? Why do I want it watching or listening to me as I play games or watch movies or tv? Oh right, advertising.
2.) Used game fees and restrictions ("But you can totally play on a friends console! Just on your profile!") I don't need to play a DVD on a profile or have the publisher check when I loan someone a book, microshiat.
3.) Always online. I use comcast, it sucks ass. In the glorious free market world of the USA companies have a major monopoly and depending on the building or even city you live in you are restricted to a certain internet provider. They therefor have no incentive to make high quality and consistent service, so having a requirement for online access would hinder the ability to play games offline.

This is completely unrelated except for DRM stuff, but capcom just released Phoenix Wright HD on iOS, which I was very thrilled about. Except you have to sign into your profile every time you load it up to show that you've purchased it. In other words--it has to do a check to capcom's servers to ensure you bought the game, even though you downloaded it and have the damn thing on your tablet or phone.

I farking hate video game companies. PWHD was going to be a definite purchase but it's not even in the planning anymore. Neither is Xb1.
 
2013-05-31 08:29:05 PM  

ThatDarkFellow: I will bet $1000 that they don't make it the entire show without referencing TV at least once


No way. The damn thing's going to be broadcast on SpikeTV to begin with.
 
2013-05-31 08:30:45 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-31 08:31:25 PM  

Jaws_Victim: I farking hate video game companies. PWHD was going to be a definite purchase but it's not even in the planning anymore. Neither is Xb1.


I hear chatter that the next one for 3DS is going to be digital only and be subject to Nintendo's glorious "this game is hardware locked to this DS. Accounts? What's an account" approach to distribution. Too bad; was one of the only reasons I was considering getting a 3DS.
 
2013-05-31 08:32:21 PM  

jboy: Don't forget the lack of backwards compatibility... That's on top of my list of gripes for this one.


This is the major issue I have with this inbound generation of consoles, with the exception of the WiiU there is no other main stream machine that can play the previous generations games.  Now if this had been the usual and quite short (by comparison) console cycle then it wouldn't really be a major issue but this wasn't the usual cycle; it ran for the best part of a decade.

To my mind that means there are a lot of people who've brought large amounts of games (both physical and digital) for these platforms and irrespective of if you're a Sony or Microsoft fan... they've both screwed you over.   Microsoft even went the extra mile and shiat-canned XBLA and all the indie stuff.

True Sony (and I suspect Microsoft) have some form of 'streaming' service for that'll let you play the PS3/360 games online, although they've been very coy at this juncture as to what games will be on the emulation service, how long those games will be available for and if you are expected to rebuy your previous purchases yet again.  That and how much of it is dependant on 3rd parties licensing their older properties for this system does anyone really think Activision are going to let old versions of COD appear?

You also have the emulation problem:  there is only so much rack space either company will be prepared to pay for (no, it won't be racks of 360's or PS3's it'll be x86's emulating the hardware.  Yes, x86 can do that, ask Apple).

We've reached the point with games consoles were these companies are throwing so much at the machines and being so coy with the hard details that I don't want 'press events'.  I want a sale brochure that lists all the options, all the extras and all the prices there of inside of it in clear and easy to understand terms.

Because at the moment the number of unknown unknowns about either of these two machines is quite staggering and frankly there isn't enough information to make any sort of purchasing decision except "Do I want a new Mario game?"
 
2013-05-31 08:35:21 PM  

Flying Code Monkey: HAHA XBONE DOG AMIRITE!

/silly Internet


---

farm6.staticflickr.com

Came up with a better one.

/Where do I collect my prize?
 
2013-05-31 08:35:36 PM  

ProfessorOhki: Jaws_Victim: I farking hate video game companies. PWHD was going to be a definite purchase but it's not even in the planning anymore. Neither is Xb1.

I hear chatter that the next one for 3DS is going to be digital only and be subject to Nintendo's glorious "this game is hardware locked to this DS. Accounts? What's an account" approach to distribution. Too bad; was one of the only reasons I was considering getting a 3DS.


oh, that makes me mad. didnt know it was hardware locked.
 
2013-05-31 08:37:40 PM  
It's interesting now to read and more articles about how "GREAT" this is going to be for the consumers; I just read one where they said that with MS/Publishers getting a cut of all used sales, they'll have more money coming in and will do sales just like Steam!

Part of me thinks MS is dangling some early-access-demos to writers, the other part of me thinks it's just the large part of the game demograph that's delusionally loyal to a big company.

I'd love for the manufacturer of their car or the builder of their house/apartment to knock on their door and ask for kick-backs because it's just as 'unfair' they haven't been supporting the original creator.
 
2013-05-31 08:38:51 PM  

jboy: Don't forget the lack of backwards compatibility... That's on top of my list of gripes for this one.


The worst part is that there's little to no reason why backwards compatibility cannot be done.  This isn't the days of the cartridge-based system where the internal hardware was completely different.  The 360 is essentially using PC hardware and a windows-ish OS.  It's not like they couldn't include a compatibility layer to run last-gen games.  But then, that would cut into their "kill all used games" business model, because you can't retroactively turn all 360 games into online-activation games.
 
2013-05-31 08:39:49 PM  
I've been patiently waiting for a modification of the ceilingcat.jpg.

Xbone is watching you masterbate
 
2013-05-31 08:40:13 PM  

ProfessorOhki: Jaws_Victim: I farking hate video game companies. PWHD was going to be a definite purchase but it's not even in the planning anymore. Neither is Xb1.

I hear chatter that the next one for 3DS is going to be digital only and be subject to Nintendo's glorious "this game is hardware locked to this DS. Accounts? What's an account" approach to distribution. Too bad; was one of the only reasons I was considering getting a 3DS.


Dedicated portable game systems died as of the 3DS launch. There is still enough enhancement of the experience through better controls that they haven't gone completely away, but far too many people are gaming on their phones and tablets. My son grabs his 3DS for long trips... but usually plays games on his iPhone first and foremost. It's simply no longer an easy sell... phones are almost always with us, while the handhelds collect dust.

I can't fault Nintendo for going to an account format... it works well for Steam users, but likewise, it misses the point - Steam users look forward to massively discounted games during season sales. Used games aren't really as much of an issue (though I suspect Valve will roll out a system soon, when Europe finally drops the hammer), because even the newest games get discounted pretty quick. With handhelds and consoles, this is a bigger issue, since the prices remain high for a much longer time.

Oh... and nobody has mentioned that the newest generation of console games may hit $90~100 for new releases. I guess they are passing the savings generated by defeating piracy and used game sales on to the customers.
 
2013-05-31 08:40:50 PM  
Jaws_Victim:

oh, that makes me mad. didnt know it was hardware locked.


It's Capcom, just think of the most retarded thing you could do.  Double it.  Discount the last vestiges of reasonableness from the idea, factor in what the hardware is capable of.   You now have a reasonable formula for guessing what retarded thing Capcom will do.

It's not revenue protection either, look at the Monster Hunter franchise and compare Japan with the rest of the world... it's Capcom... they're just that dumb.
 
2013-05-31 08:41:00 PM  

madgonad: I've been patiently waiting for a modification of the ceilingcat.jpg.

Xbone is watching you masterbate


i.imgur.com

/should have checked first
 
2013-05-31 08:41:44 PM  

Jaws_Victim: ProfessorOhki: Jaws_Victim: I farking hate video game companies. PWHD was going to be a definite purchase but it's not even in the planning anymore. Neither is Xb1.

I hear chatter that the next one for 3DS is going to be digital only and be subject to Nintendo's glorious "this game is hardware locked to this DS. Accounts? What's an account" approach to distribution. Too bad; was one of the only reasons I was considering getting a 3DS.

oh, that makes me mad. didnt know it was hardware locked.


Doh.. misread that. Yeah, Nintendo is shooting themselves in the foot by tying games to a console.
 
2013-05-31 08:42:27 PM  

yukichigai: jboy: Don't forget the lack of backwards compatibility... That's on top of my list of gripes for this one.

The worst part is that there's little to no reason why backwards compatibility cannot be done.  This isn't the days of the cartridge-based system where the internal hardware was completely different.  The 360 is essentially using PC hardware and a windows-ish OS.  It's not like they couldn't include a compatibility layer to run last-gen games.  But then, that would cut into their "kill all used games" business model, because you can't retroactively turn all 360 games into online-activation games.


No, the XBox 360 is PowerPC based.  The new XBox One is x86-64 based.  Two different architectures.  The games would have to be run through an emulator.  Mac users went through this transition in 2006, had the Rosetta emulator for a few years.
 
2013-05-31 08:42:52 PM  

Vaneshi: Jaws_Victim:

oh, that makes me mad. didnt know it was hardware locked.


It's Capcom, just think of the most retarded thing you could do.  Double it.  Discount the last vestiges of reasonableness from the idea, factor in what the hardware is capable of.   You now have a reasonable formula for guessing what retarded thing Capcom will do.

It's not revenue protection either, look at the Monster Hunter franchise and compare Japan with the rest of the world... it's Capcom... they're just that dumb.


Not to say Capcom isn't horrifically stupid, but: Link it's a Nintendo thing in this case, not a Capcom thing. Well, the digital-only part would be theirs, but not the locking bit.

Nintendo just can't do online right.
 
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