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2013-05-31 03:31:27 PM  
Farking magnets - how do they work?
 
2013-05-31 03:32:22 PM  
Technically, they kind of farked up 2010 since they let the Senate slip through their hands.
 
2013-05-31 03:33:12 PM  
Midterms are easier for Republicans since they don't have to appeal to an entire country at once.
 
2013-05-31 03:33:13 PM  
Low voter turnout = better for Republicans.

So yeah, 2014 will be better for Republicans.
 
2013-05-31 03:42:57 PM  
No, water is me instead.
 
2013-05-31 03:48:15 PM  
Hey, I thought questions in headlines were always answered with "no." Like "Will Obamacare set up death panels?" or "Can drinking fountain water give you cancer?" What gives?

Sybarite: No, water is me instead.


::checks name::

You don't look like Particle Man to me.
 
2013-05-31 03:49:35 PM  
Republicans lost several winnable Senate seats because of bad candidates like Christine O'Donnell and Todd Akin. Rove has created a no-more-Akins group to back quality candidates in primaries, outraging many conservatives.

wow.  are we that bad at vetting our own?
 
2013-05-31 03:52:59 PM  
These folks were planning on running in the House, but they're too close to the center and the RNC won't support them because of it:

aattp.org

action.naacp.org
 
2013-05-31 04:04:08 PM  

gimmegimme: These folks were planning on running in the House, but they're too close to the center and the RNC won't support them because of it:

[aattp.org image 494x371]

[action.naacp.org image 550x400]


You know, I'd seen that first picture dozens of times, but I don't think I'd ever noticed that the word "lion" doesn't actually appear, so it really reads "the zoo has an African."

If that was intentional, that's seriously racist shiat.
 
2013-05-31 04:08:36 PM  

nmrsnr: gimmegimme: These folks were planning on running in the House, but they're too close to the center and the RNC won't support them because of it:

[aattp.org image 494x371]

[action.naacp.org image 550x400]

You know, I'd seen that first picture dozens of times, but I don't think I'd ever noticed that the word "lion" doesn't actually appear, so it really reads "the zoo has an African."

If that was intentional, that's seriously racist shiat.


I think she probably meant the lion picture to substitute for the word "lion," though it's poorly laid out.
 
2013-05-31 04:58:16 PM  
Never underestimate the Democratic Party's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
 
2013-05-31 04:59:45 PM  
They shouldn't even be in office. They have no solutions, are disturbingly puritanical and all but brag about how they want corporatism to be the standard for this society.
 
2013-05-31 05:01:43 PM  
Does the Tea Party still exist?
 
2013-05-31 05:03:13 PM  

Citrate1007: Does the Tea Party still exist?


They're a vote-getting scheme of the Republican party. They will "exist" whenever the Republicans and their media apparatus decide to spin them up again. They're a radical right-wing version of the McRib.
 
2013-05-31 05:03:31 PM  
Does anyone else think that not having a strong Republican party is a bad thing? I'd much rather have a strong Republican and a strong Democratic party because then I'd be able to actually choose who will be the best rather than who will not be the worst.

So yes, I'm actually in favor of the Republicans becoming a strong party.
 
2013-05-31 05:04:26 PM  

MichiganFTL: Does anyone else think that not having a strong Republican party is a bad thing? I'd much rather have a strong Republican and a strong Democratic party because then I'd be able to actually choose who will be the best rather than who will not be the worst.

So yes, I'm actually in favor of the Republicans becoming a strong party.


Maybe it would be beneficial to have multiple strong parties that aren't both conservative capitalist parties, though?
 
2013-05-31 05:04:32 PM  
And hopefully Democrats learn from 2010 that capturing the white house goes for bupkiss if the Republicans clean your clock in the mid-terms. You will get almost no legislation passed or anything accomplished that isn't watered down bullshiat.
 
2013-05-31 05:04:54 PM  
In swing states like that, National Journal's Josh Kraushaar points out, the GOP should be able to nominate moderates.

This is a joke, right?
 
2013-05-31 05:05:35 PM  

MichiganFTL: Does anyone else think that not having a strong Republican party is a bad thing? I'd much rather have a strong Republican and a strong Democratic party because then I'd be able to actually choose who will be the best rather than who will not be the worst.

So yes, I'm actually in favor of the Republicans becoming a strong party.


You would only be correct if the contemporary Democratic Party were on the left side of the ideological spectrum.
 
2013-05-31 05:05:51 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: MichiganFTL: Does anyone else think that not having a strong Republican party is a bad thing? I'd much rather have a strong Republican and a strong Democratic party because then I'd be able to actually choose who will be the best rather than who will not be the worst.

So yes, I'm actually in favor of the Republicans becoming a strong party.

Maybe it would be beneficial to have multiple strong parties that aren't both conservative capitalist parties, though?


Yes that would be good too.
 
2013-05-31 05:05:55 PM  
Not at the state level.
 
2013-05-31 05:06:57 PM  
SlothB77:   wow.  are we that bad at vetting our own?

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-31 05:07:22 PM  

gimmegimme: MichiganFTL: Does anyone else think that not having a strong Republican party is a bad thing? I'd much rather have a strong Republican and a strong Democratic party because then I'd be able to actually choose who will be the best rather than who will not be the worst.

So yes, I'm actually in favor of the Republicans becoming a strong party.

You would only be correct if the contemporary Democratic Party were on the left side of the ideological spectrum.


Agreed. So the Democrats still have a way to go and the Republicans still have a long way to go, but damn my idealism and wanting them both to actually be filled with moral, ethical, intelligent people.

/I am none of the 3 so you don't have to worry about me getting into politics.
 
2013-05-31 05:10:41 PM  

Somacandra: Never underestimate the Democratic Party's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


I wonder how many national elections the Democrats have to win before they can bury that outdated meme.
 
2013-05-31 05:11:11 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: Maybe it would be beneficial to have multiple strong parties that aren't both conservative capitalist parties, though?


Sorry that we don't have 15 shades of  upload.wikimedia.org


Perhaps you would prefer multiple strong  upload.wikimedia.org   instead?
 
2013-05-31 05:22:30 PM  
I think the answer may be yes, but it will be interesting to see what the GOP looks like in 2016. A lot can change in a few years.
 
2013-05-31 05:25:17 PM  

Somacandra: SlothB77:   wow.  are we that bad at vetting our own?


You might say you've entered a
 
2013-05-31 05:26:26 PM  
Two in a row?
There were more elections than the Presidency.

They did great in 2010 in the House with the historic shellacking.
They also won the House again in 2012 and won seats in the senate.

Also there are far more GOP governors than Democrat so those elections have been working out well.
 
2013-05-31 05:31:00 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Two in a row?
There were more elections than the Presidency.

They did great in 2010 in the House with the historic shellacking.
They also won the House again in 2012 and won seats in the senate.

Also there are far more GOP governors than Democrat so those elections have been working out well.


upload.wikimedia.org
www.hollywoodmegastore.com
www.stephenwooten.com
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-31 05:32:13 PM  

gimmegimme: tenpoundsofcheese: Two in a row?
There were more elections than the Presidency.

They did great in 2010 in the House with the historic shellacking.
They also won the House again in 2012 and won seats in the senate.

Also there are far more GOP governors than Democrat so those elections have been working out well.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x304]
[www.hollywoodmegastore.com image 163x400]
[www.stephenwooten.com image 320x240]
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 383x550]


Goddamn right SeinfeldManCatKorean.
 
2013-05-31 05:34:05 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Two in a row?
There were more elections than the Presidency.

They did great in 2010 in the House with the historic shellacking.
They also won the House again in 2012 and won seats in the senate.

Also there are far more GOP governors than Democrat so those elections have been working out well.


But you see the Dems explain that as meaning the GOP is becoming a regional party, and therefore will never again win a national election...
 
2013-05-31 05:34:48 PM  
After significant waterboarding at a secret CIA base, I believe water isn't wet and the sky is green.
 
2013-05-31 05:36:38 PM  

themindiswatching: After significant waterboarding at a secret CIA base, I believe water isn't wet and the sky is green.


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-31 05:38:00 PM  

gimmegimme: tenpoundsofcheese: Two in a row?
There were more elections than the Presidency.

They did great in 2010 in the House with the historic shellacking.
They also won the House again in 2012 and won seats in the senate.

Also there are far more GOP governors than Democrat so those elections have been working out well.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x304]
[www.hollywoodmegastore.com image 163x400]
[www.stephenwooten.com image 320x240]
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 383x550]


comiciconcatkissing.

doesn't apply to senate seats nor governships.
got anything else?
 
2013-05-31 05:38:13 PM  

themindiswatching: After significant waterboarding at a secret CIA base, I believe water isn't wet and the sky is green.


And you believe you can see [dramatic pause] 5 lights.
 
2013-05-31 05:39:29 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: gimmegimme: tenpoundsofcheese: Two in a row?
There were more elections than the Presidency.

They did great in 2010 in the House with the historic shellacking.
They also won the House again in 2012 and won seats in the senate.

Also there are far more GOP governors than Democrat so those elections have been working out well.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x304]
[www.hollywoodmegastore.com image 163x400]
[www.stephenwooten.com image 320x240]
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 383x550]

comiciconcatkissing.

doesn't apply to senate seats nor governships.
got anything else?


Did you forget you mentioned the House?
 
2013-05-31 05:39:59 PM  

Le Grand Inquisitor: tenpoundsofcheese: Two in a row?
There were more elections than the Presidency.

They did great in 2010 in the House with the historic shellacking.
They also won the House again in 2012 and won seats in the senate.

Also there are far more GOP governors than Democrat so those elections have been working out well.

But you see the Dems explain that as meaning the GOP is becoming a regional party, and therefore will never again win a national election...


works for me.
Dems can have the national election.
GOP continues to win Governerships, Senate Seats and the House.
 
2013-05-31 05:42:31 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com

Do bears bear?  Do bees be?
 
2013-05-31 05:43:36 PM  
Those who think attacking Obama harshly won't work also point to 1998, when, for the first time since 1822, the party holding the White House gained seats in the midterm election of the president's sixth year in office.

That's like one of those statistics they pull out in the bottom of the 5th of an 8-2 baseball game.
 
2013-05-31 05:44:05 PM  

thamike: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x374]

Do bears bear?  Do bees be?


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-31 05:44:33 PM  
ooooh oooh

Jerry Man Durrr ing!
 
2013-05-31 05:48:06 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Le Grand Inquisitor: tenpoundsofcheese: Two in a row?
There were more elections than the Presidency.

They did great in 2010 in the House with the historic shellacking.
They also won the House again in 2012 and won seats in the senate.

Also there are far more GOP governors than Democrat so those elections have been working out well.

But you see the Dems explain that as meaning the GOP is becoming a regional party, and therefore will never again win a national election...

works for me.
Dems can have the national election.
GOP continues to win Governerships, Senate Seats and the House.


The *only* reason why the GOP got the House is because of gerrymandering.
 
2013-05-31 05:48:28 PM  
Whatever happens at midterms, at least they will still have two more years of a Republican presidency.
 
2013-05-31 05:48:29 PM  

gimmegimme: themindiswatching: After significant waterboarding at a secret CIA base, I believe water isn't wet and the sky is green.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 500x335]


ryant123: themindiswatching: After significant waterboarding at a secret CIA base, I believe water isn't wet and the sky is green.

And you believe you can see [dramatic pause] 5 lights.


This is why I love Fark.
 
2013-05-31 05:54:03 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: GOP continues to win Governerships, Senate Seats and the House.


i.e. "The GOP continues to win elections in places where the lack of population density effectively makes their votes count for double."
 
2013-05-31 05:58:20 PM  

gimmegimme: tenpoundsofcheese: gimmegimme: tenpoundsofcheese: Two in a row?
There were more elections than the Presidency.

They did great in 2010 in the House with the historic shellacking.
They also won the House again in 2012 and won seats in the senate.

Also there are far more GOP governors than Democrat so those elections have been working out well.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x304]
[www.hollywoodmegastore.com image 163x400]
[www.stephenwooten.com image 320x240]
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 383x550]

comiciconcatkissing.

doesn't apply to senate seats nor governships.
got anything else?

Did you forget you mentioned the House?


No.  Because gerrymandering does apply to the House and historically both the GOP and Dems have had wins as a result.
It does not apply to their other wins.
 
2013-05-31 06:00:02 PM  

udhq: tenpoundsofcheese: GOP continues to win Governerships, Senate Seats and the House.

i.e. "The GOP continues to win elections in places where the lack of population density effectively makes their votes count for double."


cinnamongirlsworld.files.wordpress.com
u.jimdo.com

+

media.tumblr.com
www.onmilwaukee.com
cdn.pennypinchinmom.com
 
2013-05-31 06:00:34 PM  

Zeppelininthesky: tenpoundsofcheese: Le Grand Inquisitor: tenpoundsofcheese: Two in a row?
There were more elections than the Presidency.

They did great in 2010 in the House with the historic shellacking.
They also won the House again in 2012 and won seats in the senate.

Also there are far more GOP governors than Democrat so those elections have been working out well.

But you see the Dems explain that as meaning the GOP is becoming a regional party, and therefore will never again win a national election...

works for me.
Dems can have the national election.
GOP continues to win Governerships, Senate Seats and the House.

The *only* reason why the GOP got the House is because of gerrymandering.


It's all a cycle of stupidity. The longer the GOP hold regional offices, that means every decade they can keep maintaining control of redistricting. The worst case scenario would be if they can succeed in passing electoral voting by district vs. winner take all. Then the Dems better watch out
 
2013-05-31 06:02:30 PM  

Zeppelininthesky: tenpoundsofcheese: Le Grand Inquisitor: tenpoundsofcheese: Two in a row?
There were more elections than the Presidency.

They did great in 2010 in the House with the historic shellacking.
They also won the House again in 2012 and won seats in the senate.

Also there are far more GOP governors than Democrat so those elections have been working out well.

But you see the Dems explain that as meaning the GOP is becoming a regional party, and therefore will never again win a national election...

works for me.
Dems can have the national election.
GOP continues to win Governerships, Senate Seats and the House.

The *only* reason why the GOP got the House is because of gerrymandering.


Wrong.
Even Mother Jones disagrees with you.
Long story short, Eric McGhee concluded that gerrymandering produced about 7 extra Republican seats this year while Sam Wang figured it at about 6.3 seats.
 
2013-05-31 06:03:50 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Zeppelininthesky: tenpoundsofcheese: Le Grand Inquisitor: tenpoundsofcheese: Two in a row?
There were more elections than the Presidency.

They did great in 2010 in the House with the historic shellacking.
They also won the House again in 2012 and won seats in the senate.

Also there are far more GOP governors than Democrat so those elections have been working out well.

But you see the Dems explain that as meaning the GOP is becoming a regional party, and therefore will never again win a national election...

works for me.
Dems can have the national election.
GOP continues to win Governerships, Senate Seats and the House.

The *only* reason why the GOP got the House is because of gerrymandering.

Wrong.
Even Mother Jones disagrees with you.
Long story short, Eric McGhee concluded that gerrymandering produced about 7 extra Republican seats this year while Sam Wang figured it at about 6.3 seats.


Thanks for admitting that the GOP engages in gerrymandering to gain and maintain power.
 
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