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(The Atlantic)   Remember that story about the IRS commissioner signing in for 157 visits to the White House in Obama's first term? Yeah, just kidding it was actually 11   (theatlantic.com) divider line 19
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2013-05-31 01:13:14 PM  
5 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining. Not nearly as good as a new episode of Game of Thrones, but equal to a new episode of The Big Bang Theory at least.


"Conservative propagandists have, once again, been caught lying their asses off for the bazillionth time! THIS IS BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA!"
2013-05-31 12:36:17 PM  
4 votes:
Indeed, of the 157 events Shulman was cleared to attend, White House records only provide time of arrival information -- confirming that he actually went to them -- for 11 events over the 2009-2012 period, and time of departure information for only six appointments.

Oh my god. Oh my god, do you know what this means. Shulman is still in the White House! HE'S STILL IN THE WHITE HOUSE. GET OUT, GET OUT NOW
2013-05-31 01:24:01 PM  
2 votes:
Remember, the idea here is to create an atmosphere of scandal. Each scandal point is less important than the impression of "where there's smoke there's fire." Not that you don't have to knock this nonsense down. But there is never any end to it, once the right gets it into their heads that they can completely cripple a president.

Everyone thinks trumped up scandals work against the right, but even if they lose in the short term it feeds their long term project. It's such a beautiful scam. They are the greatest practitioners of that which they claim to loathe but the more they demonstrate their own dishonesty and decadence, the more they convince the general public of their central thesis that government is unresponsive to the people's needs, too big and essentially corrupt. Link
2013-05-31 03:23:56 PM  
1 votes:
I find his attendance at the Easter Egg Roll highly suspicious.
2013-05-31 03:14:40 PM  
1 votes:

BSABSVR: FlashHarry: is a car a battlefield? is an apartment building?

Is love a battlefield?


well, pat benetar does tend to drone on and on.
2013-05-31 02:11:17 PM  
1 votes:
THEN WHO WAS WHITEHOUSE??!?
2013-05-31 02:07:57 PM  
1 votes:

FlashHarry: Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining.

obama's approval rating since the "scandals" broke: up
the GOP's approval rating since the "scandals" broke: down

yup, sounds like crashing and burning to me...


Obama is such a failure, he can't even crash and burn correctly.
2013-05-31 02:07:25 PM  
1 votes:

Maud Dib: skullkrusher:

His name is Popcorn Johnny... Popcorn Johnny. Almost as bad as people to respond to LeTrole

There ARE no trolls here, didn't you know that?Just people with a difference of opinion.
*ahem*


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well to be fair I definitely don't agree with people who frequently submit lying right wing propaganda headlines, and think that the president should be lynched
2013-05-31 01:53:41 PM  
1 votes:
When this story first came out and I heard it reported on NPR and based on their coverage I was thinking, that's pretty farked up going after your political opponents like that, I hope that it is delt with in a way that makes this kind of stuff more difficult. Now after a couple weeks of right wing spin it has become just another communist muslim kenyan usurper witch hunt. So even if you think something bad happened pushing for something to be done now just makes it a win for republican derpers and nothing more. So fark em, sorry.
2013-05-31 01:51:53 PM  
1 votes:
Obama only has to meet the guy once to use his slick, Chicago, political power to order the guy to illegally audit the taxes of millions of Right-wing patriots, right?  Right?

There are no number of meetings the Republicans will accept as the responsible number of meetings a Democrat president should have with the I.R.S. commissioner.  1, 10, 100, it doesn't matter.  It's not about the number, it's that whatever the Democrat did was wrong, and he should be investigated and impeached for it.  And, no, Democrats have not behaved the same way when the president was a Republican.
2013-05-31 01:51:26 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher:

His name is Popcorn Johnny... Popcorn Johnny. Almost as bad as people to respond to LeTrole

There ARE no trolls here, didn't you know that?

Just people with a difference of opinion.


*ahem*




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2013-05-31 01:47:16 PM  
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining.


obama's approval rating since the "scandals" broke: up
the GOP's approval rating since the "scandals" broke: down

yup, sounds like crashing and burning to me...
2013-05-31 01:47:06 PM  
1 votes:
What, is 0bummer too good to meet with his IRS honcho from time to time? Could only clear his busy schedule of golf and Hawaiian vacations eleven times in all these years? Who's driving this boat, anyway? Who's minding the henhouse?(Oh, that's right - eggs and chicken are food, so that's MooChelle's department.) Damned uppity layabout can't be bothered to do a damned thing except put his feet up on the that desk and ruin everything forever.
2013-05-31 01:30:35 PM  
1 votes:

studs up: I was told yesterday that it was great for him to be there that often because Obamacare needed that level of interaction. I was actually OK with that, because, that's a lot of bureaucracy to handle. Now I'm told he hardly ever visits, so....now what? No interaction required?


FTA:

He was cleared 40 times to meet with Obama's director of the Office of Health Reform, and a further 80 times for thebiweekly health reform deputies meetings and others set up by aides involved with the health-care law implementation efforts. That's 76 percent of his planned White House visits just there, before you even add in all the meetings with Office of Management and Budget personnel also involved in health reform.

The vast majority of Shulman's scheduled meetings were to take place in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building -- 115 of them. Another three were slated for the NEOB. That leaves just 25 percent of the meetings in the White House itself, or on its South Lawn.


One of the points of the article is that we can't know for sure how many times he was at the White House COMPLEX, which includes non-White House buildings. But a conclusion we can draw from the given information, is that a wide majority of the visits he was scheduled for were with people involved in Obamacare implementation. Which is what you were told yesterday. So, there's that.

Oh, and most of the scheduled meetings weren't even in the White House itself.
2013-05-31 01:23:24 PM  
1 votes:
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2013-05-31 01:20:30 PM  
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining. Not nearly as good as a new episode of Game of Thrones, but equal to a new episode of The Big Bang Theory at least.


This, right here, is why I rarely come on this site any more. I don't know if you're trolling or retarded or what but there is nothing to your post whatsoever. The president is doing just fine, The Big Bang Theory is in no way entertaining and you just waste everyone's time reading your half-baked brain farts based on nothing remotely factual.

And I don't want you to think I'm singling you out. The number of posts that come from people who obviously have the brain capacity and attention span of a fruit fly are multiplying daily.
2013-05-31 01:14:53 PM  
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining. Not nearly as good as a new episode of Game of Thrones, but equal to a new episode of The Big Bang Theory at least.


randomjsa: So basically Atlantic has no more idea than anyone else does and is just spewing liberal talking points to help cover up another Obama administration scandal.


Y'all are adorable.
2013-05-31 12:58:21 PM  
1 votes:
11, 118, 157, what does it matter? Why was this guy talking to his boss in the first place?
2013-05-31 12:48:21 PM  
1 votes:
On Thursday, Andrew Sullivan wrote: "I'd be grateful for reader scrutiny of this data -- simply because I do not trust the source, and there may be context I'm missing. But if the Caller is right that in the Bush years, 'Shulman's predecessor Mark Everson only visited the White House once during four years of service in the George W. Bush administration,' we need an explanation -- and fast."

I'm getting really tired of Andrew Sullivan.

So here is some more context: There is no Bush Administration public-records data about who went to the White House. As incomplete as it is, the Obama White House data is more public information than we have about any other administration, or the visits of any other IRS commissioner.

Most transparent administration ever! Oh, wait.

Investor's Business Daily accused Shulman of having scurried "to the West Wing more than 100 times" in the piece "IRS Chief's 118 White House Visits Must Be Explained." But the publicly available data shows that the assertion of more than 100 West Wing visits is plainly wrong.

I'm sure IBD, Fox, Daily Caller, et al, will be offering retractions promptly.
 
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