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(The Atlantic)   Remember that story about the IRS commissioner signing in for 157 visits to the White House in Obama's first term? Yeah, just kidding it was actually 11   (theatlantic.com) divider line 298
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2013-05-31 12:36:17 PM  
Indeed, of the 157 events Shulman was cleared to attend, White House records only provide time of arrival information -- confirming that he actually went to them -- for 11 events over the 2009-2012 period, and time of departure information for only six appointments.

Oh my god. Oh my god, do you know what this means. Shulman is still in the White House! HE'S STILL IN THE WHITE HOUSE. GET OUT, GET OUT NOW
 
2013-05-31 12:43:54 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Indeed, of the 157 events Shulman was cleared to attend, White House records only provide time of arrival information -- confirming that he actually went to them -- for 11 events over the 2009-2012 period, and time of departure information for only six appointments.

Oh my god. Oh my god, do you know what this means. Shulman is still in the White House! HE'S STILL IN THE WHITE HOUSE. GET OUT, GET OUT NOW


You know, that was exactly what I thought when I read that part. What if he's got his own living quarters in there? He could just be living there full time working on the scandal, and those six departures are the only times he's ever left the place! We're not just through the looking glass, we've shattered it.
 
2013-05-31 12:48:21 PM  
On Thursday, Andrew Sullivan wrote: "I'd be grateful for reader scrutiny of this data -- simply because I do not trust the source, and there may be context I'm missing. But if the Caller is right that in the Bush years, 'Shulman's predecessor Mark Everson only visited the White House once during four years of service in the George W. Bush administration,' we need an explanation -- and fast."

I'm getting really tired of Andrew Sullivan.

So here is some more context: There is no Bush Administration public-records data about who went to the White House. As incomplete as it is, the Obama White House data is more public information than we have about any other administration, or the visits of any other IRS commissioner.

Most transparent administration ever! Oh, wait.

Investor's Business Daily accused Shulman of having scurried "to the West Wing more than 100 times" in the piece "IRS Chief's 118 White House Visits Must Be Explained." But the publicly available data shows that the assertion of more than 100 West Wing visits is plainly wrong.

I'm sure IBD, Fox, Daily Caller, et al, will be offering retractions promptly.
 
2013-05-31 12:50:38 PM  

Car_Ramrod: On Thursday, Andrew Sullivan wrote: "I'd be grateful for reader scrutiny of this data -- simply because I do not trust the source, and there may be context I'm missing. But if the Caller is right that in the Bush years, 'Shulman's predecessor Mark Everson only visited the White House once during four years of service in the George W. Bush administration,' we need an explanation -- and fast."

I'm getting really tired of Andrew Sullivan.

So here is some more context: There is no Bush Administration public-records data about who went to the White House. As incomplete as it is, the Obama White House data is more public information than we have about any other administration, or the visits of any other IRS commissioner.

Most transparent administration ever! Oh, wait.

Investor's Business Daily accused Shulman of having scurried "to the West Wing more than 100 times" in the piece "IRS Chief's 118 White House Visits Must Be Explained." But the publicly available data shows that the assertion of more than 100 West Wing visits is plainly wrong.

I'm sure IBD, Fox, Daily Caller, et al, will be offering retractions promptly.


The breakdown of points with some witty banter thrown in? We're done here, right everyone?
 
2013-05-31 12:58:21 PM  
11, 118, 157, what does it matter? Why was this guy talking to his boss in the first place?
 
2013-05-31 01:09:17 PM  
"Indeed, of the 157 events Shulman was cleared to attend, White House records only provide time of arrival information -- confirming that he actually went to them -- for 11 events over the 2009-2012 period, and time of departure information for only six appointments."

He spent 5 nights in the Lincoln Bedroom as payment for his dastardly political witchhunt!!
 
2013-05-31 01:11:55 PM  
Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining. Not nearly as good as a new episode of Game of Thrones, but equal to a new episode of The Big Bang Theory at least.
 
2013-05-31 01:12:45 PM  
He's still Hitler though, right?
 
2013-05-31 01:13:02 PM  
So basically Atlantic has no more idea than anyone else does and is just spewing liberal talking points to help cover up another Obama administration scandal.
 
2013-05-31 01:13:07 PM  
Was there another spreadsheet error?
 
2013-05-31 01:13:14 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining. Not nearly as good as a new episode of Game of Thrones, but equal to a new episode of The Big Bang Theory at least.


"Conservative propagandists have, once again, been caught lying their asses off for the bazillionth time! THIS IS BAD NEWS FOR OBAMA!"
 
2013-05-31 01:13:19 PM  

Hetfield: He's still Hitler though, right?


Ten Hitlers and a Stalin to be named later.
 
2013-05-31 01:14:53 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining. Not nearly as good as a new episode of Game of Thrones, but equal to a new episode of The Big Bang Theory at least.


randomjsa: So basically Atlantic has no more idea than anyone else does and is just spewing liberal talking points to help cover up another Obama administration scandal.


Y'all are adorable.
 
2013-05-31 01:14:54 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining. Not nearly as good as a new episode of Game of Thrones, but equal to a new episode of The Big Bang Theory at least.


Watching Johnny Popcorn show off his stupidity is also as entertaining as watching paint dry.
 
2013-05-31 01:17:37 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining. Not nearly as good as a new episode of Game of Thrones, but equal to a new episode of The Big Bang Theory at least.


You are as accurate here as you are about hockey.
 
2013-05-31 01:18:26 PM  
hmm looks like a lot of people need to apologize and or kill themselves
 
2013-05-31 01:19:59 PM  
1157, you mean, AMIRITE??/

Shulman is obviously one of Fartbama's many, many gay lovers, which also includes every single person who voted for him, because they're all sucking on his dick, AMIRITE???.?/

Hetfield: He's still Hitler though, right?


GAY Hitler, AMIRITE????/?????;//
 
2013-05-31 01:20:11 PM  
I was told yesterday that it was great for him to be there that often because Obamacare needed that level of interaction. I was actually OK with that, because, that's a lot of bureaucracy to handle. Now I'm told he hardly ever visits, so....now what? No interaction required?
 
2013-05-31 01:20:23 PM  

Jackson Herring: hmm looks like a lot of people need to apologize and or kill themselves


Well, yeah, but we're discussing a visitor log.
 
2013-05-31 01:20:30 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining. Not nearly as good as a new episode of Game of Thrones, but equal to a new episode of The Big Bang Theory at least.


This, right here, is why I rarely come on this site any more. I don't know if you're trolling or retarded or what but there is nothing to your post whatsoever. The president is doing just fine, The Big Bang Theory is in no way entertaining and you just waste everyone's time reading your half-baked brain farts based on nothing remotely factual.

And I don't want you to think I'm singling you out. The number of posts that come from people who obviously have the brain capacity and attention span of a fruit fly are multiplying daily.
 
2013-05-31 01:20:34 PM  
This can't be true because chain e-mails never lie.
 
2013-05-31 01:20:52 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Indeed, of the 157 events Shulman was cleared to attend, White House records only provide time of arrival information -- confirming that he actually went to them -- for 11 events over the 2009-2012 period, and time of departure information for only six appointments.

Oh my god. Oh my god, do you know what this means. Shulman is still in the White House! HE'S STILL IN THE WHITE HOUSE. GET OUT, GET OUT NOW


No, this clearly means that he and his clone army of 4 are still there, lurking. Its far worse than you can imagine.
 
2013-05-31 01:20:58 PM  
Lying sacks of shiat? In my repub Party? Unpossible!
 
2013-05-31 01:23:10 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: 1157, you mean, AMIRITE??/

Shulman is obviously one of Fartbama's many, many gay lovers, which also includes every single person who voted for him, because they're all sucking on his dick, AMIRITE???.?/

Hetfield: He's still Hitler though, right?

GAY Hitler, AMIRITE????/?????;//


more like fartler

if you know what I mean
 
2013-05-31 01:23:24 PM  
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2013-05-31 01:23:30 PM  
www.positivepins.com
 
2013-05-31 01:23:53 PM  
I heard he was there over 9000 times. WHY 0BAMA WHY
 
2013-05-31 01:24:01 PM  
Remember, the idea here is to create an atmosphere of scandal. Each scandal point is less important than the impression of "where there's smoke there's fire." Not that you don't have to knock this nonsense down. But there is never any end to it, once the right gets it into their heads that they can completely cripple a president.

Everyone thinks trumped up scandals work against the right, but even if they lose in the short term it feeds their long term project. It's such a beautiful scam. They are the greatest practitioners of that which they claim to loathe but the more they demonstrate their own dishonesty and decadence, the more they convince the general public of their central thesis that government is unresponsive to the people's needs, too big and essentially corrupt. Link
 
2013-05-31 01:24:19 PM  

max_pooper: Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining. Not nearly as good as a new episode of Game of Thrones, but equal to a new episode of The Big Bang Theory at least.

Watching Johnny Popcorn show off his stupidity is also as entertaining as watching paint dry.


You should have seen him in the hockey threads. His mommy didn't give him enough attention or all those participation trophies got lost in the last move.
 
2013-05-31 01:27:28 PM  

2wolves: max_pooper: Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining. Not nearly as good as a new episode of Game of Thrones, but equal to a new episode of The Big Bang Theory at least.

Watching Johnny Popcorn show off his stupidity is also as entertaining as watching paint dry.

You should have seen him in the hockey threads. His mommy didn't give him enough attention or all those participation trophies got lost in the last move.


His name is Popcorn Johnny... Popcorn Johnny. Almost as bad as people to respond to LeTrole
 
2013-05-31 01:28:30 PM  

BafflerMeal:


I like the Fox News corrections but they need to have a correction for the corrections: John Quincy Adams was the 6th president, his father John Adams was the 2nd.
 
2013-05-31 01:29:41 PM  
Subby. No it wasn't just 11
Re-read tfa
 
2013-05-31 01:29:57 PM  

studs up: I was told yesterday that it was great for him to be there that often because Obamacare needed that level of interaction. I was actually OK with that, because, that's a lot of bureaucracy to handle. Now I'm told he hardly ever visits, so....now what? No interaction required?


It's almost as if you didn't read the article and just started asking questions.
 
2013-05-31 01:29:59 PM  

skullkrusher: 2wolves: max_pooper: Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining. Not nearly as good as a new episode of Game of Thrones, but equal to a new episode of The Big Bang Theory at least.

Watching Johnny Popcorn show off his stupidity is also as entertaining as watching paint dry.

You should have seen him in the hockey threads. His mommy didn't give him enough attention or all those participation trophies got lost in the last move.

His name is Popcorn Johnny... Popcorn Johnny. Almost as bad as people to respond to LeTrole


Eh.  "Johnny Popcorn" rolls more trippingly off the tongue.
 
2013-05-31 01:30:26 PM  

studs up: I was told yesterday that it was great for him to be there that often because Obamacare needed that level of interaction. I was actually OK with that, because, that's a lot of bureaucracy to handle. Now I'm told he hardly ever visits, so....now what? No interaction required?


So before it really meant something and now IT REALLY MEANS SOMETHING!111
 
2013-05-31 01:30:30 PM  

max_pooper: BafflerMeal:

I like the Fox News corrections but they need to have a correction for the corrections: John Quincy Adams was the 6th president, his father John Adams was the 2nd.


ah yes, John Quincy Adams the founding toddler
 
2013-05-31 01:30:35 PM  

studs up: I was told yesterday that it was great for him to be there that often because Obamacare needed that level of interaction. I was actually OK with that, because, that's a lot of bureaucracy to handle. Now I'm told he hardly ever visits, so....now what? No interaction required?


FTA:

He was cleared 40 times to meet with Obama's director of the Office of Health Reform, and a further 80 times for thebiweekly health reform deputies meetings and others set up by aides involved with the health-care law implementation efforts. That's 76 percent of his planned White House visits just there, before you even add in all the meetings with Office of Management and Budget personnel also involved in health reform.

The vast majority of Shulman's scheduled meetings were to take place in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building -- 115 of them. Another three were slated for the NEOB. That leaves just 25 percent of the meetings in the White House itself, or on its South Lawn.


One of the points of the article is that we can't know for sure how many times he was at the White House COMPLEX, which includes non-White House buildings. But a conclusion we can draw from the given information, is that a wide majority of the visits he was scheduled for were with people involved in Obamacare implementation. Which is what you were told yesterday. So, there's that.

Oh, and most of the scheduled meetings weren't even in the White House itself.
 
2013-05-31 01:31:00 PM  
Solyndra'd right in the Benghazi.
 
2013-05-31 01:31:19 PM  

mediaho: This, right here, is why I rarely come on this site any more. I don't know if you're trolling or retarded or what but there is nothing to your post whatsoever. The president is doing just fine, The Big Bang Theory is in no way entertaining and you just waste everyone's time reading your half-baked brain farts based on nothing remotely factual.

And I don't want you to think I'm singling you out. The number of posts that come from people who obviously have the brain capacity and attention span of a fruit fly are multiplying daily.


WELL said.  Thread over
 
2013-05-31 01:31:38 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: skullkrusher: 2wolves: max_pooper: Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining. Not nearly as good as a new episode of Game of Thrones, but equal to a new episode of The Big Bang Theory at least.

Watching Johnny Popcorn show off his stupidity is also as entertaining as watching paint dry.

You should have seen him in the hockey threads. His mommy didn't give him enough attention or all those participation trophies got lost in the last move.

His name is Popcorn Johnny... Popcorn Johnny. Almost as bad as people to respond to LeTrole

Eh.  "Johnny Popcorn" rolls more trippingly off the tongue.


He's no Johnny Bravo, that's for sure
 
2013-05-31 01:32:17 PM  
Republicans will have tolie in order to push their failed ideologies and narrative.
 
2013-05-31 01:32:39 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Watching the Obama presidency crash and burn is damn entertaining. Not nearly as good as a new episode of Game of Thrones, but equal to a new episode of The Big Bang Theory at least.


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2013-05-31 01:33:38 PM  

Car_Ramrod: I'm sure IBD, Fox, Daily Caller, et al, will be offering retractions promptly.



...not to mention Farkers who were enraged about this the other day. Like the guy whose username refers to a three-toed tree-dwelling mammal or a deadly sin, for example.
 
2013-05-31 01:35:49 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Subby. No it wasn't just 11
Re-read tfa


So according to you having clearance to meet and NOT actually meeting is counted as "meeting"
 
2013-05-31 01:36:07 PM  
The only person who visited the White House more than him was Obama's coke dealer!
 
2013-05-31 01:36:10 PM  

simplicimus: 11, 118, 157, what does it matter? Why was this guy talking to his boss in the first place?


There's an extent to which he shouldn't be.  My personal opinion is that auditors should technically be part of the judicial system, since they are making assessments about guilt and liability, but I don't think you'd get much support for more "activist judges" from the republicans.
 
2013-05-31 01:44:07 PM  

simplicimus: 11, 118, 157, what does it matter? Why was this guy talking to his boss in the first place?


You must work at a dysfunctional shiathole of a business.
 
2013-05-31 01:44:34 PM  

ikanreed: simplicimus: 11, 118, 157, what does it matter? Why was this guy talking to his boss in the first place?

There's an extent to which he shouldn't be.  My personal opinion is that auditors should technically be part of the judicial system, since they are making assessments about guilt and liability, but I don't think you'd get much support for more "activist judges" from the republicans.


So prosecutors should be part of the judicial system too? That makes no sense. Should the FDA who verify the rules also be part of the judicial system. You seem not to get how our judicial system/government works.
 
2013-05-31 01:45:13 PM  

regindyn: simplicimus: 11, 118, 157, what does it matter? Why was this guy talking to his boss in the first place?

You must work at a dysfunctional shiathole of a business.


You must not understand sarcasm.
 
2013-05-31 01:45:54 PM  

vernonFL: The only person who visited the White House more than him was Obama's coke dealer!


There is no evidence Treyvon Martin was anywhere near the White House.  Pretty sure those deals went down at Camp David.
 
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