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2013-05-31 09:01:20 AM
So I told that teacher lady that the only letters I need to know are T, E and A!
 
2013-05-31 09:04:40 AM
How is what they're doing social welfare again?
 
2013-05-31 09:07:44 AM
Getting the tea party's advice on education is like asking a cat for tips on how not to be a cat
 
2013-05-31 09:16:37 AM
FTFA: backed by President Obama

There's your problem.  if Obama had opposed the initiative, then you'd have groups of Tea Party members demanding it pass immediately.
 
2013-05-31 09:21:17 AM

ManateeGag: FTFA: backed by President Obama

There's your problem.  if Obama had opposed the initiative, then you'd have groups of Tea Party members demanding it pass immediately.


Precisely.

FTFA:   The marks the newest front for the tea party movement, which has lacked a cohesive goal since it coalesced in 2010 in opposition to Obama's health-care initiative.

They have no reason to exist except to oppose anything the President does or supports.

Hard for them to claim to be a principled opposition when they have no principles.
 
2013-05-31 09:26:28 AM
I applaud their efforts... after all, descent is the highest form of patriotic.
 
2013-05-31 09:29:41 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: I applaud their efforts... after all, descent is the highest form of patriotic.


Their descent is so strong, they're actually Chinese.  Through the looking glass, people!
 
2013-05-31 09:30:21 AM
god, they really are the know-nothings.
 
2013-05-31 09:33:29 AM

FlashHarry: god, they really are the know-nothings.


upload.wikimedia.org

Frowns upon being involved in such matters.
 
2013-05-31 09:34:20 AM

FlashHarry: god, they really are the know-nothings.


Something tells me that they know nothing of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know-Nothing_movement
 
2013-05-31 09:34:28 AM
FTFA: Some conservatives have seized on an optional side project that would have made it possible for states to share student records and test results with researchers, education officials and even software developers. Supporters described the voluntary data sharing, funded by private foundations, as a tool to help educators design effective classroom practices. But critics decried it as a Big Brother intrusion - and several states have indicated that they won't participate.

I have to admit, I'm not terribly interesting in sharing student records and test results with private software developers. That strikes me as a intrusive version of corporate welfare. Why should private companies get personal education data for free collected through compulsory public education?
 
2013-05-31 09:36:23 AM
Remember when all these principled, small government patriots rallied against No Child Left Behind?
 
2013-05-31 09:40:47 AM
Silly Liberuls.  If you are already infromed you don't need to study it out.
 
2013-05-31 09:46:16 AM

Somacandra: FTFA: Some conservatives have seized on an optional side project that would have made it possible for states to share student records and test results with researchers, education officials and even software developers. Supporters described the voluntary data sharing, funded by private foundations, as a tool to help educators design effective classroom practices. But critics decried it as a Big Brother intrusion - and several states have indicated that they won't participate.

I have to admit, I'm not terribly interesting in sharing student records and test results with private software developers. That strikes me as a intrusive version of corporate welfare. Why should private companies get personal education data for free collected through compulsory public education?


Because Obama said so. And you will like it, or else.
 
2013-05-31 09:47:04 AM
The Tea Party deserves mockery, certainly. But "common core's" main objective is to create a system enabling States to more easily compare test scores, which does nothing but further entrench standardized testing (and the companies that make fortunes creating the systems that support it) into education. If you think this is a good solution to anything, you're part of the problem.
 
2013-05-31 09:48:30 AM

jehovahs witness protection: Somacandra: FTFA: Some conservatives have seized on an optional side project that would have made it possible for states to share student records and test results with researchers, education officials and even software developers. Supporters described the voluntary data sharing, funded by private foundations, as a tool to help educators design effective classroom practices. But critics decried it as a Big Brother intrusion - and several states have indicated that they won't participate.

I have to admit, I'm not terribly interesting in sharing student records and test results with private software developers. That strikes me as a intrusive version of corporate welfare. Why should private companies get personal education data for free collected through compulsory public education?

Because Obama said so. And you will like it, or else.


You took a reasonable and thoughtful criticism and made it into another one of your "agenda only" turds.

I'll give you this:  you're consistent.
 
2013-05-31 09:54:42 AM

Somacandra: FTFA: Some conservatives have seized on an optional side project that would have made it possible for states to share student records and test results with researchers, education officials and even software developers. Supporters described the voluntary data sharing, funded by private foundations, as a tool to help educators design effective classroom practices. But critics decried it as a Big Brother intrusion - and several states have indicated that they won't participate.

I have to admit, I'm not terribly interesting in sharing student records and test results with private software developers. That strikes me as a intrusive version of corporate welfare. Why should private companies get personal education data for free collected through compulsory public education?


What would you offer as an alternative?  Keep in mind that the government has no Department of Code Monkeys that are on the payroll to write software for any application the government requires.
 
2013-05-31 10:05:32 AM
To be honest, I don't even listen to the farking hypocritical, proudly ignorant morons who make up the Tea Party anymore...

Might as well be the teacher from the Peanuts cartoons for all I care.


The White House has promoted Common Core, written by governors and state education officials in both parties and largely funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, to create consistent math and reading standards from kindergarten through 12th grade. Academic standards vary widely among states, and that patchwork nature has been partly blamed for mediocre rankings of U.S. students in international comparisons.

Oh my, how horrible. *rolls eyes*
 
2013-05-31 10:06:35 AM

FlashHarry: god, they really are the know-nothings.


And damn proud of it!
 
2013-05-31 10:08:56 AM
I see the tea party's point here.  Education means no new tea party members, education means we won't be able to bring textile job back from Bangladesh.
 
2013-05-31 10:09:08 AM
A Tea Party voter who becomes educated stops voting Tea Party.
 
2013-05-31 10:10:31 AM
By "study it out", are we talking about figuring out how it ties into Agenda 21?
 
2013-05-31 10:12:06 AM
It's scary to imagine even one teacher being a Tea Party shill.
 
2013-05-31 10:13:56 AM
Just so everyone is aware, the York 9/12 Patriots are tax-exempt. They claim to never have been "targeted" by the IRS, but also claim to not be a primarily political group hence their tax-exempt status. This is the mission statement from their website:

The York 912 Patrios [sic] is a group of patriots committed to the Constitution of the United States, as established by the Founders, who work peacefully to promote a government free from tyranny and a government whose powers are derived from the consent of the governed.
 
2013-05-31 10:14:11 AM
Please remember, the teabaggers are an apolitical group only concerned with educating people about taxes.
 
2013-05-31 10:14:13 AM

Pocket Ninja: The Tea Party deserves mockery, certainly. But "common core's" main objective is to create a system enabling States to more easily compare test scores, which does nothing but further entrench standardized testing (and the companies that make fortunes creating the systems that support it) into education. If you think this is a good solution to anything, you're part of the problem.


So what would you recommend as an alternative?
 
2013-05-31 10:14:18 AM
*sigh*

I would facepalm, but quite frankly my forehead is sore from it this week.
 
2013-05-31 10:15:11 AM
In this Jan. 16, 2013, photo, concerned grandparent Sue Lile of Carmel, Ind., shows her opposition to Common Core standards during a rally at the State House rotunda in Indianapolis.

*chortle*
 
2013-05-31 10:19:48 AM

jehovahs witness protection: Somacandra: FTFA: Some conservatives have seized on an optional side project that would have made it possible for states to share student records and test results with researchers, education officials and even software developers. Supporters described the voluntary data sharing, funded by private foundations, as a tool to help educators design effective classroom practices. But critics decried it as a Big Brother intrusion - and several states have indicated that they won't participate.

I have to admit, I'm not terribly interesting in sharing student records and test results with private software developers. That strikes me as a intrusive version of corporate welfare. Why should private companies get personal education data for free collected through compulsory public education?

Because Obama said so. And you will like it, or else.


And, as usual, the word 'voluntary' has no meaning.
 
2013-05-31 10:21:02 AM

Pocket Ninja: The Tea Party deserves mockery, certainly. But "common core's" main objective is to create a system enabling States to more easily compare test scores, which does nothing but further entrench standardized testing (and the companies that make fortunes creating the systems that support it) into education. If you think this is a good solution to anything, you're part of the problem.


While this post would get an A- in Washington, DC, it only ranks a C+ nationally.  Sorry, you're boned.

And to address your point, an actual education system that taught students how to think, find, and interpret data would: 1) be beyond the capabilities of most students and 2) Require funding that most are not willing to devote to public schools.
 
2013-05-31 10:22:29 AM

Serious Black: Pocket Ninja: The Tea Party deserves mockery, certainly. But "common core's" main objective is to create a system enabling States to more easily compare test scores, which does nothing but further entrench standardized testing (and the companies that make fortunes creating the systems that support it) into education. If you think this is a good solution to anything, you're part of the problem.

So what would you recommend as an alternative?



The alternative begins with taking NCLB out behind the Department of Education's toolshed and killing it with an axe. It continues with de-linking all federal money and school certification from test scores and the correspondingly atrocious concept of AYP. After that, there are many alternative branches to take, most of them leading to less centralized, more localized approaches.
 
2013-05-31 10:23:48 AM

Pocket Ninja: The Tea Party deserves mockery, certainly. But "common core's" main objective is to create a system enabling States to more easily compare test scores, which does nothing but further entrench standardized testing (and the companies that make fortunes creating the systems that support it) into education. If you think this is a good solution to anything, you're part of the problem.


Standardized testing may not be the whole solution or even a major part of the solution but that doesn't mean it isn't a good idea anyways.  Parents and the general public should know how their schools/teachers rank on basic academic metrics at a State and National level and with other countries.  You should know how any institution funded by your tax dollars rates against their peers.

Not saying this should be the basis for fixing education but it is important information that must be considered in improving education.
 
2013-05-31 10:23:56 AM

FirstNationalBastard: FlashHarry: god, they really are the know-nothings.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x279]

Frowns upon being involved in such matters.


Actually, I think he'd be cool with the Tea Party.

The Know Nothing movement was an American political movement that operated on a national basis during the mid 1850s. It promised to purify American politics by limiting or ending the influence of Irish Catholics and other immigrants, thus reflecting nativism and anti-Catholic sentiment. It was empowered by popular fears that the country was being overwhelmed by German and Irish Catholic immigrants, who they saw as hostile to republican values and controlled by the pope in Rome. Mainly active from 1854 to 1856, it strove to curb immigration and naturalization, but met with little success. Membership was limited to Protestant males. There were few prominent leaders, and the largely middle-class membership fragmented over the issue of slavery. (Wikipedia)
 
2013-05-31 10:24:09 AM
Missing from the article is the fact that some of the biggest whiners about Common Core are fundie home schooling families. It would be much tougher for them to achieve some of the benchmarks demanded by the system and they claim it will bias colleges against their kids.
 
2013-05-31 10:24:41 AM
JESUS H FARKING CHRIST. If I have to unlearn a semester of CCSSM training because of these assclowns,I'm gonna be so pissed.
 
2013-05-31 10:25:39 AM

FlashHarry: god, they really are the know-nothings.


What a know-nothing might look like:

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-31 10:28:36 AM

Pocket Ninja: Serious Black: Pocket Ninja: The Tea Party deserves mockery, certainly. But "common core's" main objective is to create a system enabling States to more easily compare test scores, which does nothing but further entrench standardized testing (and the companies that make fortunes creating the systems that support it) into education. If you think this is a good solution to anything, you're part of the problem.

So what would you recommend as an alternative?


The alternative begins with taking NCLB out behind the Department of Education's toolshed and killing it with an axe. It continues with de-linking all federal money and school certification from test scores and the correspondingly atrocious concept of AYP. After that, there are many alternative branches to take, most of them leading to less centralized, more localized approaches.


As long as reading and math are locally specialized skills, I see no problem with that. Oh, I would also need to find out what the "many alternative branches" are. I suspect that many of that alternatives are not scalable, not affordable, and not a system that allows longitudinal studies to help develop the curriculum.
 
2013-05-31 10:29:45 AM

Pocket Ninja: The Tea Party deserves mockery, certainly. But "common core's" main objective is to create a system enabling States to more easily compare test scores, which does nothing but further entrench standardized testing (and the companies that make fortunes creating the systems that support it) into education. If you think this is a good solution to anything, you're part of the problem.


Classic Pocket Ninja.  Parodying the idea that people would ever focus on solutions when there are political points to exploit and money to be made.  PN, you slay me!
 
2013-05-31 10:33:20 AM
You know what's funny? This headline could have stopped pretty much anywhere and still have been accurate.

Tea Party protests new education standards after taking the time to study them out.

Tea Party protests.
Tea Party protests new.
Tea Party protests new education.
Tea Party protests new education standards.
Tea Party protests new education standards after.
Tea Party protests new education standards after taking.
 
2013-05-31 10:34:36 AM

Pocket Ninja: Serious Black: Pocket Ninja: The Tea Party deserves mockery, certainly. But "common core's" main objective is to create a system enabling States to more easily compare test scores, which does nothing but further entrench standardized testing (and the companies that make fortunes creating the systems that support it) into education. If you think this is a good solution to anything, you're part of the problem.

So what would you recommend as an alternative?


The alternative begins with taking NCLB out behind the Department of Education's toolshed and killing it with an axe. It continues with de-linking all federal money and school certification from test scores and the correspondingly atrocious concept of AYP. After that, there are many alternative branches to take, most of them leading to less centralized, more localized approaches.


This sounds an awful lot like the "repeal and replace" strategy the GOP took with ObamaCare to me.
 
2013-05-31 10:34:45 AM

GameSprocket: As long as reading and math are locally specialized skills, I see no problem with that.


Well played.
 
2013-05-31 10:35:11 AM
Consistent math and reading standards? Not in my America!
 
2013-05-31 10:35:29 AM

Krieghund: FlashHarry: god, they really are the know-nothings.

What a know-nothing might look like:

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x400]


For a noo-noothin, he sure is a cunning linguist.
 
2013-05-31 10:40:30 AM

doyner: Krieghund: FlashHarry: god, they really are the know-nothings.

What a know-nothing might look like:

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x400]

For a noo-noothin, he sure is a cunning linguist.


Shows how brave he is. They likely don't wash much in such a cold climate.
 
2013-05-31 10:42:52 AM

FlashHarry: god, they really are the know-nothings Sergeant Schultz's of politics.


FTFY.

"Hoooooogaaaaaaaaaaaan!"
 
2013-05-31 10:43:22 AM
Good job on keeping the US from employing sensible and uniform educational standards...  that'll keep... umm... FREEDOM!
 
2013-05-31 10:43:24 AM

keylock71: To be honest, I don't even listen to the farking hypocritical, proudly ignorant morons who make up the Tea Party anymore...

Might as well be the teacher from the Peanuts cartoons for all I care.


The White House has promoted Common Core, written by governors and state education officials in both parties and largely funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, to create consistent math and reading standards from kindergarten through 12th grade. Academic standards vary widely among states, and that patchwork nature has been partly blamed for mediocre rankings of U.S. students in international comparisons.

Oh my, how horrible. *rolls eyes*


The problem is a lot of the Gates Foundation educational stuff is dreamed up and written by a bunch of people with no background in education, so it ends up sounding great but is actually a big hot mess in the classroom.

/similar problems with their science funding
 
2013-05-31 10:45:25 AM

Chameleon: The problem is a lot of the Gates Foundation educational stuff is dreamed up and written by a bunch of people with no background in education, so it ends up sounding great but is actually a big hot mess in the classroom.


I'm sure that's exactly the reasoned and informed argument that the tea partiers are using too.  You may well have a point, and it's a good discussion to have, but the fact of the matter is that debate is several orders of magnitude from what the protesters are capable of.
 
2013-05-31 10:47:20 AM

BunkoSquad: Getting the tea party's advice on education is like asking a cat for tips on how not to be a cat


*golf clap*
 
2013-05-31 10:47:37 AM
The Tea Party is in favor of home school/charter schools that brainwash children into a severely farked christian soldier mentality.  Of course they would be opposed to education predicated on math, science, and critical thinking.
 
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