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2013-05-30 05:17:53 PM
Bears I'd go Payton, Singletary, Butkus, Ditka.

A lot of guys left off there though, hard to get to "4", as it will for a few teams.
 
2013-05-30 05:22:42 PM
O.J.?
 
2013-05-30 05:23:10 PM
For the Saints, I'm going with Sean Payton, Drew Brees, Archie Manning, and Willie Roaf.
 
2013-05-30 05:24:22 PM
Lawrence Taylor, Phil Simms, Eli Manning and Bill Parcells

If you don't want to do active players, Change Eli out for Otis Anderson.
 
2013-05-30 05:25:45 PM
Paul Brown, Jim Brown, Otto Graham and Bernie Kosar
 
2013-05-30 05:27:04 PM
Joe Montana, Dwight Clark, Ronnie Lott, and Bill Walsh
 
2013-05-30 05:28:25 PM

TheHighlandHowler: O.J.?


if you're doing the Bills.  Sure.  Purely on playing ability, definitely include OJ
 
2013-05-30 05:30:40 PM

ManateeGag: Lawrence Taylor, Phil Simms, Eli Manning and Bill Parcells

If you don't want to do active players, Change Eli out for Otis Anderson.


I'm OK with this. I also would have accepted Harry Carson or Michael Strahan.

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Joe Montana, Dwight Clark, Ronnie Lott, and Bill Walsh


Umm...
 
2013-05-30 05:42:26 PM
Ken Stabler, Jack Tatum, John Madden, Gene Upshaw
 
2013-05-30 05:42:57 PM
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2013-05-30 05:44:03 PM

ManateeGag: TheHighlandHowler: O.J.?

if you're doing the Bills.  Sure.  Purely on playing ability, definitely include OJ


Or, maybe he was going for O.J., Rae Carruth, Darryl Henley, Leonard Little
 
2013-05-30 05:44:26 PM
Gannon, Stabler, Brown, Janikowski
 
2013-05-30 05:48:04 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Gannon, Stabler, Brown, Janikowski


Gannon?   Gannon?

I am not saying Bleacher Report is great, but, they don't even have Gannon in the Top 10 (and that is them even expanding the 10 to 12).
 
2013-05-30 05:48:56 PM
 
2013-05-30 05:49:45 PM
Hanratty, Malone, Brister and Bradshaw
 
2013-05-30 05:54:02 PM

dletter: TuteTibiImperes: Gannon, Stabler, Brown, Janikowski

Gannon?   Gannon?

I am not saying Bleacher Report is great, but, they don't even have Gannon in the Top 10 (and that is them even expanding the 10 to 12).


 There are so many options that it's hard to pick just four. In the end I went with some UD homerism and threw Gannon in (though I would argue he's been the best Raiders QB in the modern era).
 
2013-05-30 05:54:31 PM
Merlin Olsen, Deacon Jones, Jack Youngblood, Jackie Slater

Honorable Mention: Marshall Faulk, Kurt Warner, Eric Dickerson, Elroy Hirsch
 
2013-05-30 06:05:14 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Merlin Olsen, Deacon Jones, Jack Youngblood, Jackie Slater

Honorable Mention: Marshall Faulk, Kurt Warner, Eric Dickerson, Elroy Hirsch


or this; I'd sub in Dickerson for Youngblood. St. Louis doesn't count.  And I would take all the rock shavings and bury Frontiere.
 
2013-05-30 06:32:36 PM

rotsky: Brister


Bubby frakin Brister....now that is a name I hadn't heard in a while
 
2013-05-30 06:47:16 PM
Steve Largent, Cortez Kennedy, Walter Jones, (this space reserved for whoever becomes awesome on this iteration of the team).

/sorry, Hasselbeck and Alexander, I'd like to have you on there, but we'd like to keep it to automatic HoFers
 
2013-05-30 06:52:58 PM

rotsky: Hanratty, Malone, Brister and Bradshaw


Bradshaw, Harris, Noll, Bettis
 
2013-05-30 06:54:04 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: rotsky: Hanratty, Malone, Brister and Bradshaw

Bradshaw, Harris, Noll, Bettis


No, wait: Art Sr. over Bettis.
 
2013-05-30 06:59:03 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: rotsky: Hanratty, Malone, Brister and Bradshaw

Bradshaw, Harris, Noll, Bettis

No, wait: Art Sr. over Bettis.


And I suppose you gotta sneak Cowher on there just because, I mean, his jaw is already chiseled in granite so you might as well just finish the face.
 
2013-05-30 07:04:02 PM
R Lewis, Ogden, Modell, Newsome
 
2013-05-30 07:09:10 PM
Bednarik, White, McNabb, and Dawkins.
Jaws instead of McNabb might work too.
 
2013-05-30 07:13:44 PM
Sanchez
 
2013-05-30 07:17:52 PM
Andre Johnson, Arian Foster, J.J. Watt, and ???

Since we haven't had a great quarterback since we started, I'm not sure who to put in the last spot.
 
2013-05-30 07:40:26 PM
Barry Sanders, Jason Hanson, Calvin Johnson, and...Alex Karras? Herman Moore?
 
2013-05-30 07:44:23 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Joe Montana, Dwight Clark, Ronnie Lott, and Bill Walsh


THIS.  Not completely sold on Clark, but good.
 
2013-05-30 07:47:11 PM

Gecko Gingrich: R Lewis, Ogden, Modell, Newsome


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2013-05-30 07:51:26 PM

nvmac: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Joe Montana, Dwight Clark, Ronnie Lott, and Bill Walsh

THIS.  Not completely sold on Clark, but good.


No Jerry Rice? No Steve Young?
 
2013-05-30 07:57:08 PM

SilentStrider: nvmac: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Joe Montana, Dwight Clark, Ronnie Lott, and Bill Walsh

THIS.  Not completely sold on Clark, but good.

No Jerry Rice? No Steve Young?


OH HOLY COW.  I must be drunk, or sleeping, or working.

Take out Clark, replace with Rice.

/can't have two QBs in there
 
2013-05-30 08:02:47 PM
Roger Staubach
Leroy Jordan
Tony Dorset
Tom Landry
 
2013-05-30 08:36:22 PM

Krymson Tyde: Roger Staubach
Leroy Jordan
Tony Dorset
Tom Landry


I'm surprised you'd leave off NFL history's leading rusher.
 
2013-05-30 09:06:57 PM

nvmac: SilentStrider: nvmac: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Joe Montana, Dwight Clark, Ronnie Lott, and Bill Walsh

THIS.  Not completely sold on Clark, but good.

No Jerry Rice? No Steve Young?

OH HOLY COW.  I must be drunk, or sleeping, or working.

Take out Clark, replace with Rice.

/can't have two QBs in there


Hell, yes

/WTF was I thinking?
 
2013-05-30 09:23:26 PM

Triumph: Gecko Gingrich: R Lewis, Ogden, Modell, Newsome


I love Reed, but Rushmore only has four spots. Who would you replace with Reed?
 
2013-05-30 09:25:58 PM
Montana, Rice, Young, Willis
 
2013-05-30 09:45:04 PM

WI241TH: Barry Sanders, Jason Hanson, Calvin Johnson, and...Alex Karras? Herman Moore?


Just toss Barry Sanders up there a 2nd time.
 
2013-05-30 09:46:42 PM
Baugh, Riggins, Monk, Gibbs.
 
2013-05-30 09:51:24 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Triumph: Gecko Gingrich: R Lewis, Ogden, Modell, Newsome

I love Reed, but Rushmore only has four spots. Who would you replace with Reed?


Well, I guess it would have to be Modell or Ogden, wouldn't it? Tough choice, though Cavalier Eternal won't think so. People will argue that the other four guys were the very best at their job all-time and Modell was not an all-time great owner, but on the other hand, if it was just people in the Baltimore Ravens family (players, coaches, etc.) deciding, Art would be the first one up there.
 
2013-05-30 09:55:55 PM

kronicfeld: Baugh, Riggins, Monk, Gibbs.


Schuler, Turner, Haynesworth, Schroeder
 
2013-05-30 09:58:46 PM

Triumph: Gecko Gingrich: R Lewis, Ogden, Modell, Newsome

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Lewis, Ogden, Reed, and Flacco
 
2013-05-30 10:04:57 PM
Holmgren, Zorn, Largent, Hasselback.

God, we suck.
 
2013-05-30 10:05:55 PM
Halas, Grange, Butkus, Ditka

/can there be a second row added to the mount?
 
2013-05-30 10:07:15 PM
White, Cunningham, Dawkins, Akers (lol)
 
2013-05-30 10:09:33 PM

scottydoesntknow: Andre Johnson, Arian Foster, J.J. Watt, and ???

Since we haven't had a great quarterback since we started, I'm not sure who to put in the last spot.


Since we should have claim to the oilers, my personal hero, Warren Moon
 
2013-05-30 10:11:27 PM
Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Steve Young and Ronnie Lott. Are we talking just players? Otherwise I would dump Ronnie Lott for Bill Walsh. Sorry. :(
 
2013-05-30 10:12:43 PM

kronicfeld: Baugh, Riggins, Monk, Gibbs.


In all seriousness, what about Daryl Greene?
 
2013-05-30 10:13:07 PM
Heh, I covered this for all 32 teams a while ago.


Okay, there's a lot of holes in people's long-term memories, so I'm going to give a list for all 32 franchises.

Atlanta: Tommy Nobis, Steve Bartkowski, Jeff van Note, Mike Kenn. Deion doesn't make the cut because of his biggest achievements coming with other teams.

Arizona (Chicago/St. Louis): Larry Wilson, Ernie Nevers, Charley Trippi, Dan Dierdorf. And missing the cut makes Jackie Smith the sickest man in this thread.

Baltimore: Ray Lewis, Ozzie Newsome, Ed Reed, Johnathan Ogden.

Buffalo: Jim Kelly, O.J. Simpson, Bruce Smith, are locks. The fourth space is a tough spot to fill. There's Joe DeLamielleure, Reggie McKenzie, Marv Levy, Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed, Don Beebe, Corneilius Bennett, and Mark Kelso's helmet. But, I'm going with the architect of the Bill's dynasty, Bill Polian.

Carolina: Kerry "Vodka" Collins, Rae Curruth, Jake Delhomme, and John Kasay - our Mount Rushmore of Epic Fail.
(Seriously, though, Sam Mills, Jordan Gross, Steve Smith, Mushin Muhammed. I have to leave off Kasay because of The Shank That Sank Charlotte).

Chicago: The no-brainers are George Halas, Walter Payton, Gale Sayers. The last spot could go to Ditka, Red Grange, Bronco Nagurski, Dick Butkus, Mike Singletary, Bill George, Richard Dent, or Clyde Turner. I'm going to go with Dick Butkus, and Micro-Ditka because Sayers will give him 18 inches of daylight to squeeze on there.

Cincinnati: Ken Anderson, Boomer Esiason, Bob Johnson, Corey Dillon. It's tempting to put Paul Brown and Bill Walsh on this list. It's also worth giving Dan Ross, Cris Collinsworth, Tim Krumrie, and Chad Johnson on this list. I could also suggest Mike Brown, David Klingler, Ki-Jana Carter, and Akili Smith just to piss off a few Bengals fans.

Cleveland: This list is tough, because there's a dozen players that deserve consideration after the obligatory Jim Brown, Paul Brown, and Otto Graham. Lou Groza? Marion Motley? Clay Matthews? Ozzie Newsome? Brian Sipe (Okay, maybe not Sipe). I'd go with Lou Groza.

Dallas: Tom Landry, Roger Staubach, Emmitt Smith, Bob Lilly. There's just no room for Tony Dorsett, Chuck Howley, Harvey Martin, Randy White, Bob Hayes, Drew Pearson, Troy Aikman, or Michael Irvin.

Denver: John Elway, Terrell Davis, Floyd Little, Karl Mecklenburg. I'll give honorable mention to Frank Tripucka, Dan Reeves, Greg Kragen, Jason Elam, Rod Smith, Shannon Sharpe, and Tom Nalen.

Detroit: Bobby Layne, Barry Sanders, Dutch Clark, Doak Walker. Calvin Johnson has a ways to go.

Green Bay: Vince Lombardi, Brett Favre, Don Hutson, Curly Lambeau. It's a franchise defined more by its coaches than players, though Arnie Herber, Bart Starr, Ray Nitschke, Forrest Gregg, James Lofton, and Mike Holmgren could easily be on any team's list.

Houston: This is just about the easiest one. Matt Schaub, Andre Johnson, Arian Foster, and Charlie Casserly (for choosing Mario Williams over Vince Young and Reggie Bush).

Indianapolis (Baltimore): Johnny Unitas, Raymond Berry, Gino Marchetti, Peyton Manning. Four Hall of Famers have to be on this list, even if it means leaving off Jim Parker, Art Donovan, Lenny Moore, Marvin Harrison, and Weeb Ewbank.

Jacksonville: Mark Brunell, Fred Taylor, Maurice Jones-Drew, and the final slot is a toss-up between Tony Boselli, Jimmy Smith and Kenan McCardell. I'd give the nod to Tony Boselli.

Kansas City (Dallas): Lamar Hunt, Len Dawson, and Derrick Thomas are locks. The fourth spot is a competition between Abner Haynes (though if you can't call a coin flip right, you don't make the cut), Willie Lanier, Buck Buchanan, and Tony Gonzalez. I've got to defer to Willie Lanier.

Miami: Dan Marino and Don Shula are easy. There's a long list of candidates for the last two slots, but the short list is Dwight Stephenson, Jim Langer, Jake Scott, Nick Buoniconti, Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas, and Larry Csonka. I'm going with Jason Taylor and Larry Csonka.

Minnesota: Alan Page, Fran Tarkenton, Jim Marshall, Cris Carter. Apologies to Ron Yary, Chuck Foreman, Ahmad Rashad, Robert Smith, and Carl Eller.

New England: Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, John Hannah, Gino Cappelletti. Mike Haynes split his career with the Raiders, and Bruce Armstrong just misses the cut.

New Orleans: Apologies to Archie, Bobby, and and Drew, but this is easy - Sam Mills, Vaughn Johnson, Ricky Jackson, and Pat Swilling. The Dome Patrol makes a nice Mt Rushmore.

New York Giants: Mel Hein, Lawrence Taylor, Y.A. Tittle, Bill Parcells - with apologies to any Mara, Phil Simms, Ken Strong, Eli, and Frank Gifford.

New York Jets: Joe Namath is a no-brainer, as is Don Maynard. John Riggins was a great player, though his best years were with the Redskins. The third slot should go to Curtis Martin, and the fourth slot should go to either Joe Klecko or Mark Gastineau. I'd go with Joe Klecko, since he was a better player for a longer stretch of time. Missing the cut is Wayne Chrebet.

Oakland (Oakland/L.A.): tough list, and given recent history it's hard but not impossible for me to put Al Davis on the list, with Fred Biletnikoff, Willie Brown, and Jim Otto. You could substitute Gene Upshaw for Otto, or Lester Hayes for Willie Brown, or Cliff Branch or Tim brown for Biletnikoff, and still leave a two-time Super Bowl winning QB in Jim Plunkett off the list. And that's not even considering Lamonica, Madden, Flores, or Stabler.

Philadelphia: Reggie White, Steve Van Buren, Chuck Bednarik, Brian Dawkins. This list was surprisingly easy. The only name that I had trouble leaving off was Harold Carmichael. There's a ton of other good players - Tim Brookshier, Jerome Brown, Randall Cunningham, Donovan McNabb, and Ron Jaworski - but they all seem a discernible step below those five.

Pittsburgh: Another tough list, but Art Rooney, Chuck Noll, Joe Greene, are locks. Ernie Staunter, Mel Blount, Franco Harris, Lynn Swann, Terry Bradshaw, Jerome Bettis, and John Stallworth all have to take a back seat to Jack Lambert.

St. Louis (Cleveland/L.A.): Deacon Jones, Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch, Bob Waterfield, Jack Youngblood. Honorable Mention: Merlin Olsen, Marshall Faulk, Torry Holt, Kurt Warner, Norm van Brocklin, Jackie Slater.

San Diego (L.A.): Dan Fouts, Lance Alworth, Junior Seau, and Sid Gillman. Apologies to Charlie Joyner, Kellen Winslow and Ron Mix.

San Francisco: This is a tough list. Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Bill Walsh, and R.C. Owens edges out Young, Craig, John Brodie, Joe Perry, Y.A. Tittle, Leo Nomelli, Hugh McElhenny, and Ronnie Lott.

Seattle: Steve Largent, Cortez Kennedy, Walter Jones, and the fourth slot is tough....Jim Zorn? Curt Warner? I'd err on the side of Shaun Zlexander.

Tennessee (Houston): Earl Campbell, Warren Moon, Bruce Matthews. The fourth spot is a competition between Ken Houston, Mike Munchak, Elvin Bethea, Jim Norton, Steve McNair, and George Blanda. Given Elvin Bethea's unofficial sack record, I'd give him the edge.

Tampa Bay: Lee Roy Selmon, Warren Sapp, Mike Alstott, and finally John Lynch edges out Derrick Brooks, Ronde Barber, and Simeon Rice. Honorable mention to Ricky Bell and Dewey Selmon.

Washington: Sammy Baugh, Joe Gibbs, Art Monk, Darrell Green. This leaves off George Allen, Bobby Mitchell Russ Grimm, Joe Jacoby, Chris Hanburger, Ken Houston, and Sonny Jurgensen. But Sonny and Sam could spend an hour and a fifth complaining about anyone on or not on this list.
 
2013-05-30 10:15:20 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Triumph: Gecko Gingrich: R Lewis, Ogden, Modell, Newsome

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Lewis, Ogden, Reed, and Flacco


Ozzie over Flacco (or Reed) IMO. The man behind the curtain is sometimes more important than the guys up front.
 
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