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(The Consumerist)   New Jersey sues to halt production of flying cars   (consumerist.com) divider line 21
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2013-05-30 03:03:35 PM
Every time I go to NJ I make sure to pump my OWN gas.......(to cover up the smell of NJ)
 
2013-05-30 03:03:41 PM
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2013-05-30 03:05:41 PM

ChipNASA: Every time I go to NJ I make sure to pump my OWN gas.......(to cover up the smell of NJ)


No you don't. That's against the law.

Who knew that avgas was cheaper than premium unleaded?
 
2013-05-30 03:07:47 PM
Didn't Lukoil get in trouble for something like this before? I've had friends from NJ warn me about them years ago. Oddly, I was always warned about Hess in NJ - but I'm quite sure Hess where I live in Massachusetts is just fine. I don't mean to make unfounded accusations. At least the Lukoil one is based on media reports.
 
2013-05-30 03:08:02 PM

mbillips: ChipNASA: Every time I go to NJ I make sure to pump my OWN gas.......(to cover up the smell of NJ)

No you don't. That's against the law.

Who knew that avgas was cheaper than premium unleaded?


Yeah, I would think it would be much more expensive.
 
2013-05-30 03:10:34 PM

mediaseth: Didn't Lukoil get in trouble for something like this before? I've had friends from NJ warn me about them years ago. Oddly, I was always warned about Hess in NJ - but I'm quite sure Hess where I live in Massachusetts is just fine. I don't mean to make unfounded accusations. At least the Lukoil one is based on media reports.



Lukoil is Russian.  No wonder.

"You khef nice gaz station khere.  Would be shame if somezing is to kheppen to eet."
 
2013-05-30 03:11:29 PM
Why is the fuel distribution company a defendant? They sold it to the stations as avgas and it was the stations that resold it as unleaded. It's like suing the former owners of a car when a used car salesman lies about a vehicle history. The distribution company has no idea what you want with it or responsibility to prevent fraud.
 
2013-05-30 03:14:20 PM

ArkPanda: mbillips: ChipNASA: Every time I go to NJ I make sure to pump my OWN gas.......(to cover up the smell of NJ)

No you don't. That's against the law.

Who knew that avgas was cheaper than premium unleaded?

Yeah, I would think it would be much more expensive.


According to this site it's $1-2 per gallon more, varying widely by region: http://www.airnav.com/fuel/report.html

Something fishy is definitely going on. Maybe it's not real avgas either?
 
2013-05-30 03:18:03 PM
I was very good at removing catalytic converters, enlarging the fuel filler neck, taking instrument clusters apart to hide or remove the words "unleaded fuel only" and running these cars on leaded gas...did that for years to a large number of post 1975 vehicles...and one truck i did that to that I know is still on the road to this day.
 
2013-05-30 03:23:05 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Why is the fuel distribution company a defendant? They sold it to the stations as avgas and it was the stations that resold it as unleaded. It's like suing the former owners of a car when a used car salesman lies about a vehicle history. The distribution company has no idea what you want with it or responsibility to prevent fraud.


They didn't catch it fast enough. The bills likely identify the consignee as a retail station.
 
2013-05-30 03:23:17 PM

mbillips: ChipNASA: Every time I go to NJ I make sure to pump my OWN gas.......(to cover up the smell of NJ)


No you don't. That's against the law.

Who knew that avgas was cheaper than premium unleaded?

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2013-05-30 03:44:51 PM
Duh, cause flying cars can turn left. Can't have that shiat!

/yeah, I know what the article's about
//jughandles and juggalos have the same root, coincidence?
 
2013-05-30 04:26:35 PM

ArkPanda: mbillips: ChipNASA: Every time I go to NJ I make sure to pump my OWN gas.......(to cover up the smell of NJ)

No you don't. That's against the law.

Who knew that avgas was cheaper than premium unleaded?

Yeah, I would think it would be much more expensive.


It may be taxed differently. You can buy diesel for farm and construction equipment much cheaper than you can at the pump because you don't have to pay the road/highway tax on it. Just don't get caught using it in your truck.
 
2013-05-30 04:33:57 PM
What if the wrong gas causes your Chevy to stall at 10,000 feet?
 
2013-05-30 04:37:25 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Why is the fuel distribution company a defendant? They sold it to the stations as avgas and it was the stations that resold it as unleaded. It's like suing the former owners of a car when a used car salesman lies about a vehicle history. The distribution company has no idea what you want with it or responsibility to prevent fraud.


They have much deeper pockets
 
2013-05-30 04:43:42 PM

blast yer scuppers: ArkPanda: mbillips: ChipNASA: Every time I go to NJ I make sure to pump my OWN gas.......(to cover up the smell of NJ)

No you don't. That's against the law.

Who knew that avgas was cheaper than premium unleaded?

Yeah, I would think it would be much more expensive.

It may be taxed differently. You can buy diesel for farm and construction equipment much cheaper than you can at the pump because you don't have to pay the road/highway tax on it. Just don't get caught using it in your truck.


The taxes on avgas are similar to the taxes on mogas.  Avgas costs more because of the special handling needed.  Since avgas containts lead, the transport and distribution has to be completely separate from the standard mogas/diesel/jet-a distribution chain to avoid contaminating the other fuels with lead.  Avgas can't be moved by pipeline and any trucks used to transport it need to have their tanks cleaned before transporting any other product.

TEL is made by one factory in the entire world and requires hazmat type handling as well as being an expensive additive.
 
2013-05-30 04:58:54 PM
When I'm in Jersey it ain't gas I'm pumping
 
2013-05-30 05:44:37 PM
Now, there are quite a few folks who will gladly buy avgas & pay extra for it. They don't have airplanes either, but they do usually have an older car with a nicely worked motor. (it also works well in cars that may have lost their catalytic converter & almost all of their factory settings)
 /TEL poisoning was kinda of common when it was new. DuPont was in the game bigtime & the site at Deepwater NJ is still contaminated

//ok, lead may be one of the lesser of the evils there
 
2013-05-30 06:36:25 PM
So I can stop buying lead additive for my 73 Ford if I just buy some avgas? Sweet.
 
2013-05-31 03:14:41 PM

mbillips: ChipNASA: Every time I go to NJ I make sure to pump my OWN gas.......(to cover up the smell of NJ)

No you don't. That's against the law.

Who knew that avgas was cheaper than premium unleaded?


CSB - My first road trip through New Jersey, I stopped for gas. The guy there came up to me and tried to pump my gas. -I almost kicked his ass, but he walked away frightened.

I honestly thought he was some sort of panhandler or something.

I later found out men from New Jersey are pansies and can't pump their own gas.
 
2013-05-31 05:29:40 PM
Saving up for one of these babies:
http://www.terrafugia.com/tfx-vision

Probably will die before they go into production, or I have enough money.
 
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