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(WFSB Connecticut)   In a move to promote public $afety, CT passes legislation to allow driver's licenses for illegals. I guess we will find out if registration does in fact lead to confiscation   (wfsb.com) divider line 41
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2013-05-30 09:39:40 AM  
"illegals?"
 
2013-05-30 09:44:37 AM  
License leads to registration, insurance and inspection. Not a bad idea.
 
2013-05-30 09:51:37 AM  

simplicimus: License leads to registration, insurance and inspection. Not a bad idea.


Which leads to lower "uninsured motorist" premiums for insured motorists, which leads to less "sorry you're SOL that someone plowed into your car at a stoplight."  Will it work uniformly and perfectly?  No.  Will it push down uninsured and untrained driving rates?  Yes.  Illegal immigrants are not sociopaths in general; they are mostly here to work and blend in to the background without getting arrested and deported.  Most people are rule-bound because we, as a species, developed that way.
 
2013-05-30 10:01:12 AM  
Look how hip and edgy $ubby i$.
 
2013-05-30 10:01:39 AM  
Drew, hire a 3rd shift admin. Please?

This whole thing with no non-scheduled greenlights between 4am and 8am, and then 30 between 8 and 10 is killing usability and comment averages.

/Early morning farker.
 
2013-05-30 10:01:58 AM  
What is asinine about this?
 
2013-05-30 10:02:33 AM  
And it will generate a nice list of names and addresses if the Feds ever want to step up their deportation rates.
 
2013-05-30 10:02:42 AM  
Kudos, CT. New Haven was the first city to offer illegals a documentation card that served as low-level ID. And now this is a good next step.
 
2013-05-30 10:04:27 AM  

factoryconnection: simplicimus: License leads to registration, insurance and inspection. Not a bad idea.

Which leads to lower "uninsured motorist" premiums for insured motorists, which leads to less "sorry you're SOL that someone plowed into your car at a stoplight."  Will it work uniformly and perfectly?  No.  Will it push down uninsured and untrained driving rates?  Yes.  Illegal immigrants are not sociopaths in general; they are mostly here to work and blend in to the background without getting arrested and deported.  Most people are rule-bound because we, as a species, developed that way.


You mean rules like immigration laws?
 
2013-05-30 10:04:54 AM  
Good, maybe they will all move to CT. That state is going down the tubes anyways.

/use to live there, so I left.
 
2013-05-30 10:05:13 AM  
I wish they'd have given 590 people one million dollars.
 
2013-05-30 10:05:25 AM  

Carousel Beast: factoryconnection: simplicimus: License leads to registration, insurance and inspection. Not a bad idea.

Which leads to lower "uninsured motorist" premiums for insured motorists, which leads to less "sorry you're SOL that someone plowed into your car at a stoplight."  Will it work uniformly and perfectly?  No.  Will it push down uninsured and untrained driving rates?  Yes.  Illegal immigrants are not sociopaths in general; they are mostly here to work and blend in to the background without getting arrested and deported.  Most people are rule-bound because we, as a species, developed that way.

You mean rules like immigration laws?


sometimes when its a choice between get in the crate and ship yourself to the USA or take a bullet to the head the rules start to get a bit fuzzy.
 
2013-05-30 10:05:43 AM  
I wonder how many countries can I go to illegally and get a license ?
 
2013-05-30 10:07:01 AM  

FlashHarry: "illegals?"


Someone using "illegal" as a noun is a 99.99999% predictor that the rest of what they're gonna say isn't worth reading.
 
2013-05-30 10:07:02 AM  
Yeah if you're doing it legally, but for some reason I think illegal aliens probably won't. Can't put my finger on it though.
 
2013-05-30 10:07:13 AM  

Carousel Beast: factoryconnection: simplicimus: License leads to registration, insurance and inspection. Not a bad idea.

Which leads to lower "uninsured motorist" premiums for insured motorists, which leads to less "sorry you're SOL that someone plowed into your car at a stoplight."  Will it work uniformly and perfectly?  No.  Will it push down uninsured and untrained driving rates?  Yes.  Illegal immigrants are not sociopaths in general; they are mostly here to work and blend in to the background without getting arrested and deported.  Most people are rule-bound because we, as a species, developed that way.

You mean rules like immigration laws?


So once you violate one law, a civil not criminal law in this case, you might as well violate them all?

/went 66 in a 65 on the way to work better kill them all now
 
2013-05-30 10:08:37 AM  
How do you get a license without an address? Or better question, how do you prove you have lived in state for 90 days when it is illegal for you to do so?
 
2013-05-30 10:09:49 AM  
The state Senate has voted to approve legislation that would allow immigrants to obtain driver's licenses regardless of their legal statuses.


If they are going to do this stupid shiat, then they had better expand that to include everyone.   No more checking birth certificates and social security numbers for anyone.  If it is good for the Illegals, it is good for everyone.
 
2013-05-30 10:11:25 AM  

duffblue: How do you get a license without an address? Or better question, how do you prove you have lived in state for 90 days when it is illegal for you to do so?


Is this really hard for you to figure out?
 
2013-05-30 10:11:34 AM  

cig-mkr: I wonder how many countries can I go to illegally and get a license ?


At least one.
 
2013-05-30 10:12:08 AM  
I'm going to go to CT and get a driver's license in the name of Rusty Shackelford.
 
2013-05-30 10:13:14 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: duffblue: How do you get a license without an address? Or better question, how do you prove you have lived in state for 90 days when it is illegal for you to do so?

Is this really hard for you to figure out?


Immigration law is federal. States can't legally bar people who are already inside the U.S.
 
2013-05-30 10:19:44 AM  

mbillips: HotWingConspiracy: duffblue: How do you get a license without an address? Or better question, how do you prove you have lived in state for 90 days when it is illegal for you to do so?

Is this really hard for you to figure out?

Immigration law is federal. States can't legally bar people who are already inside the U.S.


Does the state have to report who they find or do they turn the other cheek? Basically, if a state finds an illegal alien, do they have a duty to report them?
 
2013-05-30 10:23:32 AM  

FlashHarry: "illegals?"


In context, this probably refers to foreign nationals who are in the country illegally.
 
2013-05-30 10:29:58 AM  

duffblue: mbillips: HotWingConspiracy: duffblue: How do you get a license without an address? Or better question, how do you prove you have lived in state for 90 days when it is illegal for you to do so?

Is this really hard for you to figure out?

Immigration law is federal. States can't legally bar people who are already inside the U.S.

Does the state have to report who they find or do they turn the other cheek? Basically, if a state finds an illegal alien, do they have a duty to report them?


Nope. That's the whole "sanctuary city" deal that drives anti-immigrant cranks into a foaming frenzy. States are under no obligation to enforce federal laws. People sometimes confuse that with nullification, which is when states violate federal laws, and is completely unconstitutional. But Congress can't order states to enforce federal law; the feds have to do that.
 
2013-05-30 10:32:15 AM  

mbillips: cig-mkr: I wonder how many countries can I go to illegally and get a license ?

At least one.


Ahhh yes, the Brits. They would bite themselves in the nuts if they thought it was PC.
 
2013-05-30 10:37:04 AM  

mbillips: duffblue: mbillips: HotWingConspiracy: duffblue: How do you get a license without an address? Or better question, how do you prove you have lived in state for 90 days when it is illegal for you to do so?

Is this really hard for you to figure out?

Immigration law is federal. States can't legally bar people who are already inside the U.S.

Does the state have to report who they find or do they turn the other cheek? Basically, if a state finds an illegal alien, do they have a duty to report them?

Nope. That's the whole "sanctuary city" deal that drives anti-immigrant cranks into a foaming frenzy. States are under no obligation to enforce federal laws. People sometimes confuse that with nullification, which is when states violate federal laws, and is completely unconstitutional. But Congress can't order states to enforce federal law; the feds have to do that.


So it's a little similar to the legalization of marijuana in Colorado and Washington? Can't the fed pull some shady stuff like they did with the drinking age and road funding?
 
2013-05-30 10:58:55 AM  

factoryconnection: Will it push down uninsured and untrained driving rates?  Yes.


[citation needed]
 
2013-05-30 11:17:01 AM  

cig-mkr: I wonder how many countries can I go to illegally and get a license ?




Many countries honor an international driver's license which is what these people should be getting instead of a state issued license. I really doubt this will lead to less uninsured motorist and passing the test for a license doesn't really prevent people who lack skill from getting a license. I see identification as the only true benefit here which is in the best interest of lawmakers for easing the way to voting.
 
2013-05-30 11:55:08 AM  

simplicimus: License leads to registration, insurance and inspection. Not a bad idea.


That's hilarious!
 
2013-05-30 12:11:05 PM  
Note the pink stripe and "No legal status" license for North Carolina
http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/660/3 71 /nclicensestory.jpg?ve=1
 
2013-05-30 12:12:50 PM  
Looks like they mark them, so it's not like you can produce this as a backdoor way of identifying yourself as a legit us citizen. Plus you still need papers from your country of origin. I wonder how hard it is to get fake papers from a Latin American country then establish a ct "residence" (pay a cable bill for 90 days). Then drive under that name if anything bad happens you just dump the identity and walk away as Kaiser Soze.

/looks like I have a summer project
 
2013-05-30 01:42:08 PM  

justanotherfarkinfarker: Looks like they mark them, so it's not like you can produce this as a backdoor way of identifying yourself as a legit us citizen. Plus you still need papers from your country of origin. I wonder how hard it is to get fake papers from a Latin American country then establish a ct "residence" (pay a cable bill for 90 days). Then drive under that name if anything bad happens you just dump the identity and walk away as Kaiser Soze.

/looks like I have a summer project


Exactly.
 
jvl
2013-05-30 02:13:55 PM  
I for one am outraged that illegals will be permitted to buy insurance and have their rates based on the safety of their driving rather than just performing hit and runs every time they have an accident.
 
2013-05-30 02:49:50 PM  

duffblue: How do you get a license without an address? Or better question, how do you prove you have lived in state for 90 days when it is illegal for you to do so?


FTA: "Applicants would need documentation proving their identities and showing they have lived in the state for at least 90 days. They also would have to pass driving tests and background checks verifying they have no felony convictions in the state."
 
2013-05-30 04:03:09 PM  

BunkoSquad: FlashHarry: "illegals?"

Someone using "illegal" as a noun is a 99.99999% predictor that the rest of what they're gonna say isn't worth reading.


yup, just like seeing the noun democrat intentionally misused as an adjective.
 
2013-05-30 05:41:59 PM  

duffblue: mbillips: duffblue: mbillips: HotWingConspiracy: duffblue: How do you get a license without an address? Or better question, how do you prove you have lived in state for 90 days when it is illegal for you to do so?

Is this really hard for you to figure out?

Immigration law is federal. States can't legally bar people who are already inside the U.S.

Does the state have to report who they find or do they turn the other cheek? Basically, if a state finds an illegal alien, do they have a duty to report them?

Nope. That's the whole "sanctuary city" deal that drives anti-immigrant cranks into a foaming frenzy. States are under no obligation to enforce federal laws. People sometimes confuse that with nullification, which is when states violate federal laws, and is completely unconstitutional. But Congress can't order states to enforce federal law; the feds have to do that.

So it's a little similar to the legalization of marijuana in Colorado and Washington? Can't the fed pull some shady stuff like they did with the drinking age and road funding?


Mmmmmmaybe. While Congress can't force the states to enforce federal law, they can pull their (completely unrelated) federal funding if they don't pass a state law covering the same offense. But since immigration is by definition a federal matter (there is no "state citizenship," you're a resident by virtue living in a state, but a citizen of the country), having state statutes on immigration enforcement (as Arizona does) is a constitutional gray area. The courts might strike them down. Speed limits on non-federal roads, seat belt regulations, blood-alcohol limits and drinking ages are state matters, and the feds used the threat of cutting road funding to bully them all into conformity.
 
2013-05-30 07:12:09 PM  

FlashHarry: "illegals?"


Yeah, as in "people who are here illegally." Or are we still insisting on using cute little euphemisms like "undocumented?" Sack up, Nancy.
 
2013-05-30 07:34:16 PM  

simplicimus: License leads to registration, insurance and inspection.


What company is going to issue an insurance policy, to a driver who is in fact breaking federal immigration law?
 
2013-05-30 09:30:48 PM  
Now all the underage illegals can get an official CT drivers licences with fake birth dates...so they can buy liquor...drive drunk. Need to have your drink on when you leave your Section 8 housing and go shopping with your EBT card. It's a perfect ID when cashing in your SSI checks too. Then on the way back head over to polls to go vote. Then if (...when?) you hit somebody you'll have your id so you won't get hassled when you go to the ER get your free medical treatment.

/the years are flying by...then I can retire and move out this nutmeg hellhole/
 
2013-05-31 03:46:11 AM  
Twatwaddle.
I wish all the liberal New England states would fall off into the ocean.
 
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