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(Politico)   Gov. Lincoln Chafee, having bolted screaming from the Republican Party to being an independent, completes his evolution and registers as a Democrat   (politico.com) divider line 133
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2013-05-29 06:52:57 PM  
The man did two things no other Republican in the Senate did... He voted against Bush's tax cuts, and he voted against authorizing force in Iraq. Just as he promised he would. You can say he did it because he was in a safe seat, but he was not and he lost to Sheldon Whitehouse because of those two votes.

He also called correctly for the state NOT to fund 38 Studios. Those three things are enough to ensure my vote and many other Rhode Islanders regardless of what silly letter is after his name. He was a Republican politician because his Father was a Republican politician. Much like how many families keep the same affiliation, with notable exceptions of course.

Sure, he is Governor Gump. He has sh*tty public speaking habits and is kinda slow. However, he has been an honorable man and voted the right way in the eyes of history, when it really mattered.

Hope he stays.
 
2013-05-29 08:01:17 PM  
I honestly thought he had already become a Democrat.
 
2013-05-29 08:04:20 PM  
Interesting.
 
2013-05-29 08:47:05 PM  
Way to go Chafee!

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2013-05-29 09:03:17 PM  
Good... good... your journey to the dark side is complete...
 
2013-05-29 09:03:43 PM  
A true conservative.
 
2013-05-29 09:21:01 PM  

coco ebert: I honestly thought he had already become a Democrat.


So did most of Rhode Island.  Not that I fault him for what  NewportBarGuy said,  but him being an "independent" never really sounded right.
 
2013-05-29 09:23:22 PM  
He's not a crook, which is a step up for Rhode Island.
 
2013-05-29 09:30:58 PM  
I don't know if I could vote for him.  He looks too much like Steve Doocy.
 
2013-05-29 09:37:02 PM  

FriarReb98: coco ebert: I honestly thought he had already become a Democrat.

So did most of Rhode Island.  Not that I fault him for what  NewportBarGuy said,  but him being an "independent" never really sounded right.


I lived in Rhode Island during the 2006 campaign, and remember his TV ads were basically begging voters not to kick him out just because he was a Republican.
 
2013-05-29 09:44:48 PM  

CaptSacto: Good... good... your journey to the dark side is complete...


Snickerdoodle or chocolate chip?
 
2013-05-29 09:44:53 PM  

hardinparamedic: Way to go Chafee!

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This is the way I go Chaffee
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2013-05-29 09:45:51 PM  

NewportBarGuy: The man did two things no other Republican in the Senate did... He voted against Bush's tax cuts, and he voted against authorizing force in Iraq. Just as he promised he would. You can say he did it because he was in a safe seat, but he was not and he lost to Sheldon Whitehouse because of those two votes.

He also called correctly for the state NOT to fund 38 Studios. Those three things are enough to ensure my vote and many other Rhode Islanders regardless of what silly letter is after his name. He was a Republican politician because his Father was a Republican politician. Much like how many families keep the same affiliation, with notable exceptions of course.

Sure, he is Governor Gump. He has sh*tty public speaking habits and is kinda slow. However, he has been an honorable man and voted the right way in the eyes of history, when it really mattered.

Hope he stays.


There was a time when he was an example of a New England Republican, back when it meant someone who thought the government could regulate the dickery out of the free market, but doing it cheaper and more efficiently. Just the other day Rachel Maddow showed a clip of Bob Dole, who used to be conservative  at his 1996 acceptance speech saying government could be the crucial buffer to keep people from falling into complete failure.
 
2013-05-29 09:50:13 PM  

coco ebert: I honestly thought he had already become a Democrat.


When Laffey primaried him and handed that Senate seat to Sheldon Whitehouse, I think it was the real last straw for him with the Republican party.  But he couldn't find it in his heart to actually become a Democrat until he realized they line up far more with his policies.
 
MFL
2013-05-29 09:50:18 PM  
The guy is a jellyfish. He'll fit right in with the DNC. You libs can have him.
 
2013-05-29 09:51:12 PM  
Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?
 
2013-05-29 09:53:12 PM  

coco ebert: I honestly thought he had already become a Democrat.


He just didn't put on the Dunce Cap and Herpa-Dee-Derp with the rest of the republicans.

McCain is right. Even Reagan would have been bashed by today's gop. That's what happens after a generation of hate and purges. Once you've distilled out all that is good decent from the gop, all you have left is a nuthouse full of cranks, bigots, and loons.
 
2013-05-29 09:53:13 PM  
It's in the water.
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MFL
2013-05-29 09:57:14 PM  

Virtual Pariah: Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?


Are u farking high?
 
2013-05-29 09:58:01 PM  

pueblonative: CaptSacto: Good... good... your journey to the dark side is complete...

Snickerdoodle or chocolate chip?


Aw, man.... if I have to pick one or the other, it's snickerdoodle hands down.
Tough call.
 
2013-05-29 10:05:26 PM  
Paging Olympia Snow. Olympia Snow to the white phone.

Respect is not given, but earned. I guess that goes for shame, too. Republicans don't want to be given shame, they want to earn shame. They worked hard for it. I'd be remiss if I didn't recognize their achivement.

Shame.
 
2013-05-29 10:13:58 PM  
Has any notable politician gone from Dem to Rep in the last few years?  Like did Zell Miller officially swap?
 
2013-05-29 10:15:29 PM  

pueblonative: CaptSacto: Good... good... your journey to the dark side is complete...

Snickerdoodle or chocolate chip?


Ginger chewy or GTFO.
 
2013-05-29 10:15:42 PM  

NewportBarGuy: The man did two things no other Republican in the Senate did... He voted against Bush's tax cuts, and he voted against authorizing force in Iraq. Just as he promised he would. You can say he did it because he was in a safe seat, but he was not and he lost to Sheldon Whitehouse because of those two votes.

He also called correctly for the state NOT to fund 38 Studios. Those three things are enough to ensure my vote and many other Rhode Islanders regardless of what silly letter is after his name. He was a Republican politician because his Father was a Republican politician. Much like how many families keep the same affiliation, with notable exceptions of course.

Sure, he is Governor Gump. He has sh*tty public speaking habits and is kinda slow. However, he has been an honorable man and voted the right way in the eyes of history, when it really mattered.

Hope he stays.


     Here's how it goes from my point of view, the Republican party lost sane economics when the Bull Moose party dragged economic progressives out of it, and sane social justice policy when Goldwater led the southern strategy after LBJ signed the 64 civil rights act.  Everything since then (neoconservatives and Nixon, religious right, voodoo economics, Iran-Contra and Reagan and Bush the elder, Bush the younger and ramping up of retarded policies, teabaggers and everything after) has just been something without any redeeming qualities getting worse and worse.  The party has pretty much been actively gathering everything that is greedy, stupid, and evil in America and wrapping it all in one disgusting bundle.
       To quote Hunter S. Thompson "Who does vote for these dishonest shiatheads? Who among us can be happy and proud of having all this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids like George Bush? They are the same ones who wanted to have Muhammad Ali locked up for refusing to kill gooks. They speak for all that is cruel and stupid and vicious in the American character. They are the racists and hate mongers among us; they are the Ku Klux Klan."   Anybody who has chosen to be associated with that mess in the past several decades needs to take a long time to sit down and figure out how and why they got in that mess before going forth to screw with public policy once more.
 
2013-05-29 10:15:56 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I don't know if I could vote for him.  He looks too much like Steve Doocy.


Bang! There it is!  I was wondering why I was getting weird vibe from him.
 
2013-05-29 10:19:44 PM  

MFL: Virtual Pariah: Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?

Are u farking high?


No, no s/he's not.  I'm a Democratic Socialist, which 1. has nothing to do with the Democratic Party, and 2. has no voice in US politics.  There is no left wing party of any substance currently in US politics.
 
2013-05-29 10:20:14 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Has any notable politician gone from Dem to Rep in the last few years?  Like did Zell Miller officially swap?


Rep. Parker Griffith of Alabama switched that way in 09. He lost the Republican primary in 2010. Miller didn't swap when he was in office.
 
2013-05-29 10:23:38 PM  

El Pachuco: MFL: Virtual Pariah: Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?

Are u farking high?

No, no s/he's not.  I'm a Democratic Socialist, which 1. has nothing to do with the Democratic Party, and 2. has no voice in US politics.  There is no left wing party of any substance currently in US politics.


To lunatic rightwingers, John Birch gibberish is communism.
 
2013-05-29 10:24:13 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Has any notable politician gone from Dem to Rep in the last few years?  Like did Zell Miller officially swap?


Looks like a couple of  Congressmen back in the early 2000s Nobody else notable pops out on a quick look see.
 
2013-05-29 10:25:21 PM  

El Pachuco: MFL: Virtual Pariah: Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?

Are u farking high?

No, no s/he's not.  I'm a Democratic Socialist, which 1. has nothing to do with the Democratic Party, and 2. has no voice in US politics.  There is no left wing party of any substance currently in US politics.


What's your opinion on Bernie Sanders?
 
2013-05-29 10:25:32 PM  
The Sane!

It's Spreading!!1!1!
 
2013-05-29 10:26:32 PM  

El Pachuco: MFL: Virtual Pariah: Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?

Are u farking high?

No, no s/he's not.  I'm a Democratic Socialist, which 1. has nothing to do with the Democratic Party, and 2. has no voice in US politics.  There is no left wing party of any substance currently in US politics.


Thank God.
 
2013-05-29 10:30:13 PM  

NewportBarGuy: He also called correctly for the state NOT to fund 38 Studios.


Oddly enough it's a good game
 
2013-05-29 10:31:56 PM  

MFL: Virtual Pariah: Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?

Are u farking high?


If you thinks Dems are "lefties" you need to travel more.  Or read more.
 
2013-05-29 10:33:26 PM  

Johnny Savage: El Pachuco: MFL: Virtual Pariah: Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?

Are u farking high?

No, no s/he's not.  I'm a Democratic Socialist, which 1. has nothing to do with the Democratic Party, and 2. has no voice in US politics.  There is no left wing party of any substance currently in US politics.

Thank God.


Maybe your God. The God Christians worship sent his socialist son to die on the cross for your sins.
 
2013-05-29 10:34:33 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: MFL: Virtual Pariah: Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?

Are u farking high?

If you thinks Dems are "lefties" you need to travel more.  Or read more.


Actually learning to read would be the first step.
 
2013-05-29 10:36:48 PM  

coco ebert: I honestly thought he had already become a Democrat.


Well he was one of the 10 most liberal senators when he was in the senate. He was more liberal than Ted Kennedy according to voting records. Never understood why he was a republican in the first place. I mean he lost a senate race to a liberal democrat who wasn't as liberal as him. He was the ultimate RINO, now in the zoo cage he belongs in....with the asses
 
2013-05-29 10:37:16 PM  

max_pooper: Johnny Savage: El Pachuco: MFL: Virtual Pariah: Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?

Are u farking high?

No, no s/he's not.  I'm a Democratic Socialist, which 1. has nothing to do with the Democratic Party, and 2. has no voice in US politics.  There is no left wing party of any substance currently in US politics.

Thank God.

Maybe your God. The God Christians worship sent his socialist son to die on the cross for your sins.


I think most conservatives should just admit they would be happier with the God that carries a hammer, than that bleeding heart Jesus.
 
2013-05-29 10:37:53 PM  

max_pooper: Johnny Savage: El Pachuco: MFL: Virtual Pariah: Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?

Are u farking high?

No, no s/he's not.  I'm a Democratic Socialist, which 1. has nothing to do with the Democratic Party, and 2. has no voice in US politics.  There is no left wing party of any substance currently in US politics.

Thank God.

Maybe your God. The God Christians worship sent his socialist son to die on the cross for your sins.


I would describe Him as communist.
 
2013-05-29 10:39:06 PM  

Virtual Pariah: Who speaks for the left?


Democrats. Pay attention and stop moving goalposts and No True Scotsman-ing the situation.

Why is it that the left-wing in America insists they're centrists and the only true left-winger who ever existed is Lenin and Marx? Stop with this retarded slide-rule comparison to the rest of the world.

"Derp.. we're not supporting Maoism or a generic far right-wing boogeyman so we must be centrists!"

Do you support expanded gov't powers into dictating social and economic equalization? Congrats, you're on the left. Get your free Che shirt and name tag and gather in the lobby while waiting for the show to start.
 
2013-05-29 10:44:36 PM  

Mrbogey: Virtual Pariah: Who speaks for the left?

Democrats. Pay attention and stop moving goalposts and No True Scotsman-ing the situation.

Why is it that the left-wing in America insists they're centrists and the only true left-winger who ever existed is Lenin and Marx? Stop with this retarded slide-rule comparison to the rest of the world.

"Derp.. we're not supporting Maoism or a generic far right-wing boogeyman so we must be centrists!"

Do you support expanded gov't powers into dictating social and economic equalization? Congrats, you're on the left. Get your free Che shirt and name tag and gather in the lobby while waiting for the show to start.


Social and economic equalization? Not many Democrats support that. They mostly support social and economic equality. I know to an ignorant derper like yourself those words look similar but they have very different meanings.
 
2013-05-29 10:47:04 PM  
dictating social and economic equalization

there is so much wrong with this statement holy shiat
 
2013-05-29 10:49:25 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Has any notable politician gone from Dem to Rep in the last few years?  Like did Zell Miller officially swap?


Nah, Zell's dementia progressed and he faded away. Sad, because he wasn't always that insane.

/Zell is a cousin of mine. He was born in the next tiny town over (Young Harris, GA)
//Something like 2nd cousin once removed or some such
///Never bothered with genealogy
 
2013-05-29 10:49:55 PM  

Mrbogey: Virtual Pariah: Who speaks for the left?

Democrats. Pay attention and stop moving goalposts and No True Scotsman-ing the situation.

Why is it that the left-wing in America insists they're centrists and the only true left-winger who ever existed is Lenin and Marx? Stop with this retarded slide-rule comparison to the rest of the world.

"Derp.. we're not supporting Maoism or a generic far right-wing boogeyman so we must be centrists!"

Do you support expanded gov't powers into dictating social and economic equalization? Congrats, you're on the left. Get your free Che shirt and name tag and gather in the lobby while waiting for the show to start.


Hey, I hear the teabaggers in Minnesota's 6th district are going to need another crackpot to represent them.  You sound perfect.
 
2013-05-29 10:51:18 PM  
if you don't want the poor to starve to death in a gutter and you think minorities should be able to eat at the woolworth's lunch counter, congrats you're a libtardo
 
2013-05-29 10:55:18 PM  

Jackson Herring: if you don't want the poor to starve to death in a gutter and you think minorities should be able to eat at the woolworth's lunch counter, congrats you're a libtardo

communist.

www.globatron.org
 
2013-05-29 10:59:08 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Jackson Herring: if you don't want the poor to starve to death in a gutter and you think minorities should be able to eat at the woolworth's lunch counter, congrats you're a libtardo communist.

[www.globatron.org image 850x591]


The more things change, the more they potato bootstraps.
 
2013-05-29 10:59:33 PM  

Mrbogey: Do you support expanded gov't powers into dictating social and economic equalization? Congrats, you're on the left. Get your free Che shirt and name tag and gather in the lobby while waiting for the show to start.


Today's liberals and democrats are on the left of today's political spectrum, but that's not the whole spectrum.  That's the whole point.  There's much more to the left than today's Left.  Even Nixon was more left than Clinton or Obama, based on his agenda and theirs.  That doesn't mean Nixon was Left, based on the context of the time.

It's not binary, dumbass.  It's not LEFT/RIGHT.  Its where in the spectrum of left and right that's being discussed.  That means *gasp* relativism, so you need to get over it.  There isn't a big box LEFT and a big box RIGHT, and such-and-such ideals or philosophies or policies only exist in some pure form that fit into only one box.  Seeing only a black or white, binary world is a pretty primitive way of looking at things.  Not a very intellectually designed world-view, I'd say.
 
2013-05-29 11:00:51 PM  

Jackson Herring: if you don't want the poor to starve to death in a gutter and you think minorities should be able to eat at the woolworth's lunch counter, congrats you're a libtardo


I don't think anyone wants the poor to starve to death in a gutter, I mean someone will just have to drag the body away, and it would be depressing, have some courtesy and die in private
 
2013-05-29 11:02:10 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Has any notable politician gone from Dem to Rep in the last few years?  Like did Zell Miller officially swap?


If Lieberman hadn't retired, I think he would have made the jump.
 
2013-05-29 11:05:15 PM  

Aquapope: It's not binary, dumbass. It's not LEFT/RIGHT. Its where in the spectrum of left and right that's being discussed. That means *gasp* relativism, so you need to get over it.


Relativism???  Stupid lib...next we'll have people marrying turtles.
 
2013-05-29 11:05:29 PM  

max_pooper: Social and economic equalization? Not many Democrats support that. They mostly support social and economic equality. I know to an ignorant derper like yourself those words look similar but they have very different meanings.


Oh, that's cute... you're so naive. I bet you think Obama was anti-gay marriage till just recently.

Aquapope: It's not binary, dumbass. It's not LEFT/RIGHT. Its where in the spectrum of left and right that's being discussed. That means *gasp* relativism, so you need to get over it. There isn't a big box LEFT and a big box RIGHT, and such-and-such ideals or philosophies or policies only exist in some pure form that fit into only one box. Seeing only a black or white, binary world is a pretty primitive way of looking at things. Not a very intellectually designed world-view, I'd say.


And one day the left will be the guys advocating for forced redistribution of wealth under a soviet committee while the right-wing will be the guys advocating for forced redistribution of wealth under a central leader. Ya know... relative.
 
2013-05-29 11:05:52 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Jackson Herring: if you don't want the poor to starve to death in a gutter and you think minorities should be able to eat at the woolworth's lunch counter, congrats you're a libtardo communist.

[www.globatron.org image 850x591]


hmm once upon a time I would have thought about photoshopping those signs to read "lib-u-lardo" or something
 
2013-05-29 11:07:02 PM  

spongeboob: I don't think anyone wants the poor to starve to death in a gutter, I mean someone will just have to drag the body away


JOB CREATION!!!  Somebody run with this idea.
 
2013-05-29 11:16:01 PM  

Aquapope: spongeboob: I don't think anyone wants the poor to starve to death in a gutter, I mean someone will just have to drag the body away

JOB CREATION!!!  Somebody run with this idea.


government jobs aren't real jobs, comrade stalinhitler
 
2013-05-29 11:17:23 PM  

Mrbogey: And one day the left will be the guys advocating for forced redistribution of wealth under a soviet committee while the right-wing will be the guys advocating for forced redistribution of wealth under a central leader. Ya know... relative.


The pendulum might swing that hard back to the left, but barring some amazing super-catastrophic collapse of the social/capitalism you see everywhere today I don't see how it would go that far.  If that happened, things would be so shiatty forced redistribution might be the only way to keep civilization alive - that's a sci-fi scenario more than a real-world fear right now.  The forced redistribution part of it takes the whole left/right idea out because whoever controls the redistribution gets the goods, regardless of whether they call themselves socialists or capitalists or republicans or what.
 
2013-05-29 11:19:09 PM  

Aquapope: The pendulum might swing that hard back to the left


you can't go  "back" to somewhere you never were
 
2013-05-29 11:25:43 PM  

MFL: The guy is a jellyfish. He'll fit right in with the DNC. You libs can have him.


This is what Republicans have become.
 
2013-05-29 11:28:17 PM  

Jackson Herring: Aquapope: spongeboob: I don't think anyone wants the poor to starve to death in a gutter, I mean someone will just have to drag the body away

JOB CREATION!!!  Somebody run with this idea.

government jobs aren't real jobs, comrade stalinhitler


What if it is a private corp, running the corpse disposal program funded by the federal government?  You can't have a problem with that unless you just don't like the Free Market.
 
2013-05-29 11:31:14 PM  

Jackson Herring: government jobs aren't real jobs, comrade stalinhitler


That's Herr Doktor Comrade Stalinhitler, Ph.D., MRSA, WTF, BBQ, (Ret), to you, peon. Let me see your papers.

I never understood this idea.  Government jobs pay money that gets taxed and is spent, the spending gets taxed, the sellers who receive the money pay taxes and spend, which gets taxes....etc.  I'm not saying that the government should be the engine of our economy, it absolutely shouldn't.  But it's a great way to occasionally keep the real engine from completely stalling till the fuel lines clear (or whatever metaphor you prefer).  Austerity during shiatty times doesn't work, we've seen that historically and recently.
 
2013-05-29 11:34:01 PM  

Jackson Herring: you can't go  "back" to somewhere you never were


The pendulum is swinging back in the direction it came from, not back to the place it was before.  I can go back in time, but not necessarily back to 1600CE, a time I've never been (I really can, wanna go?  Provide your own guns).
 
2013-05-29 11:35:27 PM  

spongeboob: Jackson Herring: Aquapope: spongeboob: I don't think anyone wants the poor to starve to death in a gutter, I mean someone will just have to drag the body away

JOB CREATION!!!  Somebody run with this idea.

government jobs aren't real jobs, comrade stalinhitler

What if it is a private corp, running the corpse disposal program funded by the federal government?  You can't have a problem with that unless you just don't like the Free Market.


Sounds like a great business opportunity.

www.buysoylentgreen.com
Let's get a start-up loan from the evil government.
 
2013-05-29 11:38:26 PM  

Jackson Herring: you can't go "back" to somewhere you never were


True.  It'd just be nice though to see something moderately visionary in my lifetime.
 
2013-05-29 11:38:54 PM  

Aquapope: Jackson Herring: you can't go  "back" to somewhere you never were

The pendulum is swinging back in the direction it came from, not back to the place it was before.  I can go back in time, but not necessarily back to 1600CE, a time I've never been (I really can, wanna go?  Provide your own guns).


Two questions: 1) Can you guarantee my safety?  2) Have you done this before?
 
2013-05-29 11:46:02 PM  

Aquapope: I never understood this idea


what's hard to understand about conservatives white hot naked hatred for anything having to do with the government?
 
2013-05-29 11:48:01 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Aquapope: Jackson Herring: you can't go  "back" to somewhere you never were

The pendulum is swinging back in the direction it came from, not back to the place it was before.  I can go back in time, but not necessarily back to 1600CE, a time I've never been (I really can, wanna go?  Provide your own guns).

Two questions: 1) Can you guarantee my safety?  2) Have you done this before?


I can't guarantee safety, but I have done this before.  Proof:  Dewey did win.  I shiat you not.  Your compensation: I'm willing to stop in 1981 and let you invest whatever you can for ownership in Microsoft.
 
2013-05-29 11:53:45 PM  

Mrbogey: Virtual Pariah: Who speaks for the left?

Democrats. Pay attention and stop moving goalposts and No True Scotsman-ing the situation.

Why is it that the left-wing in America insists they're centrists and the only true left-winger who ever existed is Lenin and Marx? Stop with this retarded slide-rule comparison to the rest of the world.

"Derp.. we're not supporting Maoism or a generic far right-wing boogeyman so we must be centrists!"

Do you support expanded gov't powers into dictating social and economic equalization? Congrats, you're on the left. Get your free Che shirt and name tag and gather in the lobby while waiting for the show to start.


As usual, you are as wrong as it is possible for one to be - reality is exactly opposite of what you've said here. It isn't Democrats saying, "We're not liberals; we're centrists." It's liberals saying, "The Democrats are too centrist and refuse to propose or support liberal policies." Which is absolutely true, by the way. Any American liberal has at best a relationship of convenience with the Democratic Party. If there were an actual liberal party in America, a lot of us would flee the Democratic sphere of influence in a hot second.
 
2013-05-29 11:55:39 PM  

Jackson Herring: conservatives white hot naked


www.miataturbo.net
 
2013-05-30 12:02:59 AM  

Jackson Herring: Aquapope: I never understood this idea

what's hard to understand about conservatives white hot naked hatred for anything having to do with the government?


Like:
America's first proactive, presumptive war
oil subsidies,
sugar subsidies,
grain subsidies,
low taxes on capital gains,
ineffective environmental regulation and enforcement,
ineffective election oversight,
candidates for government positions taking undocumented "election support",
Supreme Justices ruling that "election support" is constitutional free speech,
Supreme Justices disenfranchising an entire state during the constitutional resolution of a contentious presidential election,
etc.,
etc.

They like all three branches of the government a HELL of a LOT OF THE TIME, if the payoff makes sense.
 
2013-05-30 12:10:19 AM  

Jackson Herring: Aquapope: spongeboob: I don't think anyone wants the poor to starve to death in a gutter, I mean someone will just have to drag the body away

JOB CREATION!!!  Somebody run with this idea.

government jobs aren't real jobs, comrade stalinhitler


Pffft we commie fascists only answer to Weedlord Bonerhitler.
 
2013-05-30 12:16:56 AM  

A Terrible Human: Pffft we commie fascists only answer to Weedlord Bonerhitler.


That's my mom's brother.  We call him Wrong-touch Unky Weed.  "Wrong-touch Unky Boner" just telegraphs the problem too much.
 
2013-05-30 12:18:32 AM  

max_pooper: Johnny Savage: El Pachuco: MFL: Virtual Pariah: Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?

Are u farking high?

No, no s/he's not.  I'm a Democratic Socialist, which 1. has nothing to do with the Democratic Party, and 2. has no voice in US politics.  There is no left wing party of any substance currently in US politics.

Thank God.

Maybe your God. The God Christians worship sent his socialist son to die on the cross for your sins.


He wasn't really a socialist. Jesus  was more of a communist, as Jesus did not declare that the workers should control the means of production so much as Jesus was all about straight up sharing everything. He essentially espoused the "To each according to his needs" part of the famous Marx quote.
 
2013-05-30 12:27:57 AM  

spongeboob: max_pooper: Johnny Savage: El Pachuco: MFL: Virtual Pariah: Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?

Are u farking high?

No, no s/he's not.  I'm a Democratic Socialist, which 1. has nothing to do with the Democratic Party, and 2. has no voice in US politics.  There is no left wing party of any substance currently in US politics.

Thank God.

Maybe your God. The God Christians worship sent his socialist son to die on the cross for your sins.

I think most conservatives should just admit they would be happier with the God that carries a hammer, than that bleeding heart Jesus.


Thor?
 
2013-05-30 12:31:43 AM  

Mrbogey: Virtual Pariah: Who speaks for the left?

Democrats. Pay attention and stop moving goalposts and No True Scotsman-ing the situation.

Why is it that the left-wing in America insists they're centrists and the only true left-winger who ever existed is Lenin and Marx? Stop with this retarded slide-rule comparison to the rest of the world.

"Derp.. we're not supporting Maoism or a generic far right-wing boogeyman so we must be centrists!"

Do you support expanded gov't powers into dictating social and economic equalization? Congrats, you're on the left. Get your free Che shirt and name tag and gather in the lobby while waiting for the show to start.


Classic example of right wing blinders.
 
2013-05-30 12:37:29 AM  
www.rankopedia.com
 
2013-05-30 12:45:47 AM  

BMulligan: As usual, you are as wrong as it is possible for one to be - reality is exactly opposite of what you've said here. It isn't Democrats saying, "We're not liberals; we're centrists." It's liberals saying, "The Democrats are too centrist and refuse to propose or support liberal policies." Which is absolutely true, by the way. Any American liberal has at best a relationship of convenience with the Democratic Party. If there were an actual liberal party in America, a lot of us would flee the Democratic sphere of influence in a hot second.


You're speaking to someone who believes Bush was too liberal.  Best to just back away now.
 
2013-05-30 12:53:34 AM  

Fista-Phobia: [www.rankopedia.com image 800x1190]


fark me, I did not need to see that in my current drunken stupor. Thanks asshole. I just had flashbacks to my childhood plagued with really bad Hanna Barbera cartoons thanks to you.

/Snorks
//the horror
 
2013-05-30 12:57:29 AM  

Fart_Machine: BMulligan: As usual, you are as wrong as it is possible for one to be - reality is exactly opposite of what you've said here. It isn't Democrats saying, "We're not liberals; we're centrists." It's liberals saying, "The Democrats are too centrist and refuse to propose or support liberal policies." Which is absolutely true, by the way. Any American liberal has at best a relationship of convenience with the Democratic Party. If there were an actual liberal party in America, a lot of us would flee the Democratic sphere of influence in a hot second.

You're speaking to someone who believes Bush was too liberal.  Best to just back away now.




images2.wikia.nocookie.net
Just back away.
 
2013-05-30 12:57:34 AM  

jedihirsch: coco ebert: I honestly thought he had already become a Democrat.

Well he was one of the 10 most liberal senators when he was in the senate. He was more liberal than Ted Kennedy according to voting records. Never understood why he was a republican in the first place. I mean he lost a senate race to a liberal democrat who wasn't as liberal as him. He was the ultimate RINO, now in the zoo cage he belongs in....with the asses


As I understand it, he was a Republican out of respect for his father, who was a Governor, Senator, and goddamn hero, so that's a good reason there.  Their politics are fairly similar as well.  To call him a RINO just shows how narrow the Republican party has become - it's a term that inherently discredits moderates or progressives, and more or less rejects anyone whose politics doesn't fit the extremism du jour.  Someone up the thread put it pretty well - the Republicans lost the Bull Moose Progressives with Teddy, and the social progressives with the Civil Rights Movement.  Now they're left with a bunch of attention whores who love the sound of their own voice more than they love their country who drag the entire discourse down.

It's a crappy situation - two party politics still isn't going anywhere, it's just becoming more shrill and desperate.  I actually applaud Marco Rubio for what he's doing on immigration, although I hate his other political stances, but I'm afraid that he's just committing political suicide.
 
2013-05-30 01:00:42 AM  

Fart_Machine: You're speaking to someone who believes Bush was too liberal.  Best to just back away now.


What.

No, really. What.
 
2013-05-30 01:04:43 AM  

VJStinger: Fista-Phobia: [www.rankopedia.com image 800x1190]

fark me, I did not need to see that in my current drunken stupor. Thanks asshole. I just had flashbacks to my childhood plagued with really bad Hanna Barbera cartoons thanks to you.

/Snorks
//the horror


Hanna-Barbera and childhood? I cursed those guys name every time I went to King's Island and had to walk back to the car. F!
 
2013-05-30 01:05:46 AM  

max_pooper: El Pachuco: MFL: Virtual Pariah: Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?

Are u farking high?

No, no s/he's not.  I'm a Democratic Socialist, which 1. has nothing to do with the Democratic Party, and 2. has no voice in US politics.  There is no left wing party of any substance currently in US politics.

What's your opinion on Bernie Sanders?


This would be a far better country for the majority of its citizens if Sanders occupied a center position in the US political spectrum.  I kinda doubt our Overton window can shift that much.
 
2013-05-30 01:06:26 AM  
When a government has repeatedly and deliberately failed to follow its own laws, violated the fundamental human rights of its citizens, threatened the sanctity of a free press, created institutions intended to eliminate privacy of communication, waged war at the behest of special interests that threatens the public safety, killed hundreds of children with drone strikes, imprisoned and destroyed the lives of countless individuals for victimless crimes, stifled economic opportunity to maintain the dominance of the financial elite, stolen from the people through an absurd system of taxation and inflation, sold future generations into debt slavery, and abused its power to suppress political opposition, it is unfit to exist and it becomes the duty of the people to alter or abolish that government by whatever means necessary to secure liberty and ensure peace. A new American revolution is long overdue. This revolution has been brewing in the hearts and minds of the people for many years, but this Independence Day, it shall take a new form as the American Revolutionary Army will march on each state capital to demand that the governors of these 50 states immediately initiate the process of an orderly dissolution of the federal government through secession and reclamation of federally held property. Should one whole year pass from this July 4th while the crimes of this government are allowed to continue, we may have passed the point at which non-violent revolution becomes impossible. The time to sit idly by has passed, to remain neutral is to be complicit, just doing your job is not an excuse, and the line in the sand has been drawn between we the people, and the criminals in Washington, DC. While some timid souls will say that it is too early, that we can solve this problem through democratic means provided by government, that current levels of taxation are reasonable for the services provided, and that the crimes of this government are merely a tolerable nuisance; it may already be too late. While there is risk in drastic action, the greater danger lies in allowing this government to continue unchallenged. So if you are content with the status quo, stay home, get fat, watch the fireworks from a safe distance, and allow this Independence Day to pass like any other. But if you see as we see, and feel as we feel, we will see you on the front lines of freedom on July 4th 2013 for this: The Final American Revolution.
/kokesh
 
2013-05-30 01:07:30 AM  
Chafee has struggled with perilously low job approval ratings and faces a difficult reelection fight in 2014...
"...It really is a matter of conviction with this governor..."

Sorry. Self-preservation instinct is not the same thing as conviction.
 
2013-05-30 01:10:42 AM  

Fista-Phobia: VJStinger: Fista-Phobia: [www.rankopedia.com image 800x1190]

fark me, I did not need to see that in my current drunken stupor. Thanks asshole. I just had flashbacks to my childhood plagued with really bad Hanna Barbera cartoons thanks to you.

/Snorks
//the horror

Hanna-Barbera and childhood? I cursed those guys name every time I went to King's Island and had to walk back to the car. F!


Ok, so I wasn't the only one. There's an entire generation of kids ready for revenge over that shiat I'm sure. Just say "Magilla Gorilla".
 
2013-05-30 01:15:51 AM  

VJStinger: Fista-Phobia: VJStinger: Fista-Phobia: [www.rankopedia.com image 800x1190]

fark me, I did not need to see that in my current drunken stupor. Thanks asshole. I just had flashbacks to my childhood plagued with really bad Hanna Barbera cartoons thanks to you.

/Snorks
//the horror

Hanna-Barbera and childhood? I cursed those guys name every time I went to King's Island and had to walk back to the car. F!

Ok, so I wasn't the only one. There's an entire generation of kids ready for revenge over that shiat I'm sure. Just say "Magilla Gorilla".


And that little Hitler place near the fountain area that sold funnel cakes was equally as traumatic. Get me to the LaRosa's game room log flume area stat!
 
2013-05-30 01:23:53 AM  
Ray_Peranus: stuff blah blah blah stuff
/kokesh

Is that supposed to be a David Koresh quote?  "kokesh" doesn't return anything in the Googles... so can't be very important.  So what are you saying?  or not saying, in your own words if you can.
 
2013-05-30 01:36:07 AM  
Ray_Peranus [stupid trash redacted]

More chest thumping threats of violence, eh?

And yet again it'll all come to nothing but a fart in the Sahara.

You hollow little pisspants cowards.
 
2013-05-30 01:37:23 AM  

Mrbogey: max_pooper: Social and economic equalization? Not many Democrats support that. They mostly support social and economic equality. I know to an ignorant derper like yourself those words look similar but they have very different meanings.

Oh, that's cute... you're so naive. I bet you think Obama was anti-gay marriage till just recently.

Aquapope: It's not binary, dumbass. It's not LEFT/RIGHT. Its where in the spectrum of left and right that's being discussed. That means *gasp* relativism, so you need to get over it. There isn't a big box LEFT and a big box RIGHT, and such-and-such ideals or philosophies or policies only exist in some pure form that fit into only one box. Seeing only a black or white, binary world is a pretty primitive way of looking at things. Not a very intellectually designed world-view, I'd say.

And one day the left will be the guys advocating for forced redistribution of wealth under a soviet committee while the right-wing will be the guys advocating for forced redistribution of wealth under a central leader. Ya know... relative.


Are Republicans just seriously incapable in seeing nuance? Is their worldview just ENTIRELY black-and-white, with us or against us, good vs. evil?

Because that is an extremely childish worldview. Which would, come to think of it, explain the GOP's childish actions, like shutting down the government whenever the voters don't give them absolute power.
 
2013-05-30 01:38:03 AM  

NewportBarGuy: The man did two things no other Republican in the Senate did... He voted against Bush's tax cuts, and he voted against authorizing force in Iraq. Just as he promised he would. You can say he did it because he was in a safe seat, but he was not and he lost to Sheldon Whitehouse because of those two votes.

He also called correctly for the state NOT to fund 38 Studios. Those three things are enough to ensure my vote and many other Rhode Islanders regardless of what silly letter is after his name. He was a Republican politician because his Father was a Republican politician. Much like how many families keep the same affiliation, with notable exceptions of course.

Sure, he is Governor Gump. He has sh*tty public speaking habits and is kinda slow. However, he has been an honorable man and voted the right way in the eyes of history, when it really mattered.

Hope he stays.


Did some cursory reading on him, and he seems to have a set. I don't say that because I agree with those votes (I do), but because he bucked the trends in his own ideological circle. Doing what you think is right takes a pair of low-hangers.
 
2013-05-30 01:40:01 AM  
He has now violated the Cardinal rule of politics: "Never go 'Full Retard'".
 
2013-05-30 01:40:46 AM  
Myth: He was a staunch Republican that saw the light!

Reality: He was campaigning for Obama in 2008 and 2012 was about as 'independent' as Sean Hannity.
 
2013-05-30 01:44:00 AM  

Ray_Peranus: When a government has repeatedly and deliberately failed to follow its own laws, violated the fundamental human rights of its citizens, threatened the sanctity of a free press, created institutions intended to eliminate privacy of communication, waged war at the behest of special interests that threatens the public safety, killed hundreds of children with drone strikes, imprisoned and destroyed the lives of countless individuals for victimless crimes, stifled economic opportunity to maintain the dominance of the financial elite, stolen from the people through an absurd system of taxation and inflation, sold future generations into debt slavery, and abused its power to suppress political opposition, it is unfit to exist and it becomes the duty of the people to alter or abolish that government by whatever means necessary to secure liberty and ensure peace. A new American revolution is long overdue. This revolution has been brewing in the hearts and minds of the people for many years, but this Independence Day, it shall take a new form as the American Revolutionary Army will march on each state capital to demand that the governors of these 50 states immediately initiate the process of an orderly dissolution of the federal government through secession and reclamation of federally held property. Should one whole year pass from this July 4th while the crimes of this government are allowed to continue, we may have passed the point at which non-violent revolution becomes impossible. The time to sit idly by has passed, to remain neutral is to be complicit, just doing your job is not an excuse, and the line in the sand has been drawn between we the people, and the criminals in Washington, DC. While some timid souls will say that it is too early, that we can solve this problem through democratic means provided by government, that current levels of taxation are reasonable for the services provided, and that the crimes of this government are merely a tolerable nuisance; it may a ...


Christ, you're an asshole.
 
2013-05-30 01:50:25 AM  

Ray_Peranus: When a government has repeatedly and deliberately failed to follow its own laws, violated the fundamental human rights of its citizens, threatened the sanctity of a free press, created institutions intended to eliminate privacy of communication, waged war at the behest of special interests that threatens the public safety, killed hundreds of children with drone strikes, imprisoned and destroyed the lives of countless individuals for victimless crimes, stifled economic opportunity to maintain the dominance of the financial elite, stolen from the people through an absurd system of taxation and inflation, sold future generations into debt slavery, and abused its power to suppress political opposition, it is unfit to exist and it becomes the duty of the people to alter or abolish that government by whatever means necessary to secure liberty and ensure peace. A new American revolution is long overdue. This revolution has been brewing in the hearts and minds of the people for many years, but this Independence Day, it shall take a new form as the American Revolutionary Army will march on each state capital to demand that the governors of these 50 states immediately initiate the process of an orderly dissolution of the federal government through secession and reclamation of federally held property. Should one whole year pass from this July 4th while the crimes of this government are allowed to continue, we may have passed the point at which non-violent revolution becomes impossible. The time to sit idly by has passed, to remain neutral is to be complicit, just doing your job is not an excuse, and the line in the sand has been drawn between we the people, and the criminals in Washington, DC. While some timid souls will say that it is too early, that we can solve this problem through democratic means provided by government, that current levels of taxation are reasonable for the services provided, and that the crimes of this government are merely a tolerable nuisance; it may a ...



Ohmygod.  Just farking do it already, fire the next "shot heard round the world", free us all from the shackles of the tyranny of the American government.   Stop just biatching about it and go out and start the farking revolution already if you think that's what its come to.  But since we all know you aren't actually going to do anything, maybe you could do the rest of us a favor and shut. The fark. Up.
 
2013-05-30 01:54:51 AM  

dickfreckle: NewportBarGuy: The man did two things no other Republican in the Senate did... He voted against Bush's tax cuts, and he voted against authorizing force in Iraq. Just as he promised he would. You can say he did it because he was in a safe seat, but he was not and he lost to Sheldon Whitehouse because of those two votes.

He also called correctly for the state NOT to fund 38 Studios. Those three things are enough to ensure my vote and many other Rhode Islanders regardless of what silly letter is after his name. He was a Republican politician because his Father was a Republican politician. Much like how many families keep the same affiliation, with notable exceptions of course.

Sure, he is Governor Gump. He has sh*tty public speaking habits and is kinda slow. However, he has been an honorable man and voted the right way in the eyes of history, when it really mattered.

Hope he stays.

Did some cursory reading on him, and he seems to have a set. I don't say that because I agree with those votes (I do), but because he bucked the trends in his own ideological circle. Doing what you think is right takes a pair of low-hangers.


You better be beatin' that speed tipple.
 
2013-05-30 01:55:42 AM  

LordJiro: Are Republicans just seriously incapable in seeing nuance? Is their worldview just ENTIRELY black-and-white, with us or against us, good vs. evil?

Because that is an extremely childish worldview. Which would, come to think of it, explain the GOP's childish actions, like shutting down the government whenever the voters don't give them absolute power.


They might be capable, and choose not to because the people who send them money think in Black and White.  Christian, Caucasian, Corporation (ooh, the CCC to replace the KKK) are all part of the white side, so the black side is everything else.  You can't even enumerate the "black" part of black and white, apart from "it is't the white".  Maybe when the voting republic gets tired of this crap they'll change, but that always takes time.  My grandfather was born in Mexico in 1912, became a citizen of the US in 1936 (Navy) and hated blacks whose families had been here for literally 200 years before him.  He got over it a few years before he died.  I guarantee his kid an grand kids got over it big time, except for the Dutch.  fark the Dutch.
 
2013-05-30 01:57:25 AM  

hardinparamedic: Christ, you're an asshole.


I just said this to my dog about 30 seconds ago, for sh*tting on the bathroom floor.

I like how memes become common language. Once, during a Saints game, I drunkenly told a girl to "Your whore mouth, you best shut it." Her boyfriend, who was larger and more sober, just laughed. Thankfully. That guy could have easily sent me to the hospital.

/wouldn't tell a girl that unless completely 'faced, which I was
//sports talk always starts something Stupid
 
2013-05-30 02:02:06 AM  
I don't remember who said it in another thread but it applies here (and to me as well)...

Ronald Reagan started out as a Democrat but switched in the 60s. When he was asked about it he said "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me". Well Lincoln Chaffee didn't leave the Republican Party...
 
2013-05-30 02:18:06 AM  

Ray_Peranus: this Independence Day, it shall take a new form as the American Revolutionary Army will march on


the city-county complex, baffling clerks and confusing people trying to renew their driver's licenses. After an extended impasse, the three of them will take over the landfill & sanitation office for about an hour. Then one of them will absent-mindedly walk in front of a large window where the shade has not been drawn, and a sheriff's deputy positioned in a tree outside will take him out with a single well-placed rifle shot. The other two will attempt to slip out the back and end up in cuffs.

The story will appear in the local five-days-per-week newspaper, and be posted on the newspaper's clumsily-styled website, where some local yokel will see it and submit it to FARK with a HOTY-worthy headline. FARKers will gather to laugh at the dumbassery, and try to recall...what the hell was that guy's FARK handle again? "Rape her anus" or something like that? Anyway...tastes like chicken.

And on to the next one...
 
2013-05-30 02:22:05 AM  

Aquapope: Ray_Peranus: stuff blah blah blah stuff
/kokesh

Is that supposed to be a David Koresh quote?  "kokesh" doesn't return anything in the Googles... so can't be very important.  So what are you saying?  or not saying, in your own words if you can.


Its from THIS. I don't envy your journey if you go there but if you do I pray you come back safe.

/Can I come with you to the past? I'm an excellent cook and a great travel companion. The Doctor asked me to join him once but I was studying for finals.
 
2013-05-30 02:27:35 AM  

Fista-Phobia: You better be beatin' that speed tipple.


Not sure what this means. BTW, it's "triple," as in three pistons.
 
2013-05-30 02:31:50 AM  

Mrbogey: Virtual Pariah: Who speaks for the left?

Democrats. Pay attention and stop moving goalposts and No True Scotsman-ing the situation.

Why is it that the left-wing in America insists they're centrists and the only true left-winger who ever existed is Lenin and Marx? Stop with this retarded slide-rule comparison to the rest of the world.

"Derp.. we're not supporting Maoism or a generic far right-wing boogeyman so we must be centrists!"

Do you support expanded gov't powers into dictating social and economic equalization? Congrats, you're on the left. Get your free Che shirt and name tag and gather in the lobby while waiting for the show to start.


People call the Democrats centrists because they are. The thing that's confusing your politically conservative brain is that they aren't PROUD of that fact, unlike the conservatives trying to portray themselves as centrists because they think that the Fallacy of Middle Ground is a valid method of governance.
 
2013-05-30 02:34:05 AM  

bgddy24601: /Can I come with you to the past? I'm an excellent cook and a great travel companion. The Doctor asked me to join him once but I was studying for finals.


Thanks for the info.  As for coming with me... you are a friend of the Doctor, you understand the importance of a younger, less experienced, phenomenally more attractive companion...and you want to travel with me?  I'm covering my part of the bargain by not being so attractive, but where's your submission?  Submit your application whenever and wherever you want, we'll get it, I assure you.
 
2013-05-30 02:45:35 AM  

Aquapope: bgddy24601: /Can I come with you to the past? I'm an excellent cook and a great travel companion. The Doctor asked me to join him once but I was studying for finals.

Thanks for the info.  As for coming with me... you are a friend of the Doctor, you understand the importance of a younger, less experienced, phenomenally more attractive companion...and you want to travel with me?  I'm covering my part of the bargain by not being so attractive, but where's your submission?  Submit your application whenever and wherever you want, we'll get it, I assure you.


If it helps I already submitted it 200 years from now. Of course I'm more Craig Owens than Jack Harkness, but very few of us are Jack Harkness...
 
2013-05-30 02:55:00 AM  

bgddy24601: Its from THIS. I don't envy your journey if you go there but if you do I pray you come back safe.


Reading that gave me cancer.
 
2013-05-30 03:01:58 AM  
 Lovely

bgddy24601: If it helps I already submitted it 200 years from now. Of course I'm more Craig Owens than Jack Harkness, but very few of us are Jack Harkness...


Just got your application, lovely.  I don't get your points about Owens and Harkness as they've been gone for so long.. however our Director, K.Gillan will put you with one of our best instructors, Ford or Coleman.
 
2013-05-30 03:10:09 AM  

Aquapope: Lovelybgddy24601: If it helps I already submitted it 200 years from now. Of course I'm more Craig Owens than Jack Harkness, but very few of us are Jack Harkness...

Just got your application, lovely.  I don't get your points about Owens and Harkness as they've been gone for so long.. however our Director, K.Gillan will put you with one of our best instructors, Ford or Coleman.


I was going more for visual approximation than what the characters themselves brought to the table. As far as character goes I'd like to think I'm a Rory but that's a tough standard to live up to.
 
2013-05-30 03:22:48 AM  
The problem is that Republicans only flip after they've left office, and they usually stop over in Indieville before switching fully to Democrat. It's that whole 'I didn't leave the party, the party left me' stuff.

Democrats who flip, however, seem to have no problem just going 'fark it' and flipping fully to Republican, while in office.

Not that either approach prolongs your political career at all. But the ones who go R to D have more of a political afterlife than the ones who go D to R.
 
Juc
2013-05-30 04:13:48 AM  
say what you will, the M24 was an awesome tank.
 
2013-05-30 05:20:00 AM  

spongeboob: Jackson Herring: if you don't want the poor to starve to death in a gutter and you think minorities should be able to eat at the woolworth's lunch counter, congrats you're a libtardo

I don't think anyone wants the poor to starve to death in a gutter, I mean someone will just have to drag the body away, and it would be depressing, have some courtesy and die in private


job creatin'!

/good goddess, is it freakin early...
//yawn
///threes and such
 
2013-05-30 05:22:49 AM  

Aquapope: spongeboob: I don't think anyone wants the poor to starve to death in a gutter, I mean someone will just have to drag the body away

JOB CREATION!!!  Somebody run with this idea.


And that's what I get for not reading the whole thread.  Nevermind me.

/i'm gonna go work now. >.<
 
2013-05-30 05:41:07 AM  

Ray_Peranus: When a government has repeatedly and deliberately failed to follow its own laws, violated the fundamental human rights of its citizens, threatened the sanctity of a free press, created institutions intended to eliminate privacy of communication, waged war at the behest of special interests that threatens the public safety, killed hundreds of children with drone strikes, imprisoned and destroyed the lives of countless individuals for victimless crimes, stifled economic opportunity to maintain the dominance of the financial elite, stolen from the people through an absurd system of taxation and inflation, sold future generations into debt slavery, and abused its power to suppress political opposition, it is unfit to exist and it becomes the duty of the people to alter or abolish that government by whatever means necessary to secure liberty and ensure peace. A new American revolution is long overdue. This revolution has been brewing in the hearts and minds of the people for many years, but this Independence Day, it shall take a new form as the American Revolutionary Army will march on each state capital to demand that the governors of these 50 states immediately initiate the process of an orderly dissolution of the federal government through secession and reclamation of federally held property. Should one whole year pass from this July 4th while the crimes of this government are allowed to continue, we may have passed the point at which non-violent revolution becomes impossible. The time to sit idly by has passed, to remain neutral is to be complicit, just doing your job is not an excuse, and the line in the sand has been drawn between we the people, and the criminals in Washington, DC. While some timid souls will say that it is too early, that we can solve this problem through democratic means provided by government, that current levels of taxation are reasonable for the services provided, and that the crimes of this government are merely a tolerable nuisance; it may a ...



Do it, you simpering pussies, or shut the fark up and go back to farking your mothers.
 
2013-05-30 06:29:00 AM  

max_pooper: Mrbogey: Virtual Pariah: Who speaks for the left?

Democrats. Pay attention and stop moving goalposts and No True Scotsman-ing the situation.

Why is it that the left-wing in America insists they're centrists and the only true left-winger who ever existed is Lenin and Marx? Stop with this retarded slide-rule comparison to the rest of the world.

"Derp.. we're not supporting Maoism or a generic far right-wing boogeyman so we must be centrists!"

Do you support expanded gov't powers into dictating social and economic equalization? Congrats, you're on the left. Get your free Che shirt and name tag and gather in the lobby while waiting for the show to start.

Social and economic equalization? Not many Democrats support that. They mostly support social and economic equality. I know to an ignorant derper like yourself those words look similar but they have very different meanings.


What about just social and economic minimums?
 
2013-05-30 06:43:32 AM  

El Pachuco: MFL: Virtual Pariah: Speaks more to the Republican collapse and the Democrat veer to the right than a change in Chafee's views.

We actually need a left party now.
Republicans are the crazies.
Democrats are the new Republicans.

Who speaks for the left?

Are u farking high?

No, no s/he's not.  I'm a Democratic Socialist, which 1. has nothing to do with the Democratic Party, and 2. has no voice in US politics.  There is no left wing party of any substance currently in US politics.


There is no such thing as a left wing party of any substance. You have no voice in US politics because sometimes the free market really does work. If no one is buying what you are selling..... maybe the product just sucks?
 
2013-05-30 06:47:51 AM  

part of the problem: There is no such thing as a left wing party of any substance. You have no voice in US politics because sometimes the free market really does work. If no one is buying what you are selling..... maybe the product just sucks?


English?
 
2013-05-30 06:51:17 AM  
Whiny was whining because they "have no voice in US politics". Only a daymn socialist thinks this is a problem. If the useless malcontents in the tea party can get themslves heard then you have to conclude anyone less competent than that is just lazy or dumb.
 
2013-05-30 06:53:38 AM  

part of the problem: Whiny was whining because they "have no voice in US politics". Only a daymn socialist thinks this is a problem. If the useless malcontents in the tea party can get themslves heard then you have to conclude anyone less competent than that is just lazy or dumb.


Or the 'Tea Party' has the Fox 'News' network, and much of AM radio to spew their garbage on.
 
2013-05-30 07:05:46 AM  

Mrbogey: Virtual Pariah: Who speaks for the left?

Democrats. Pay attention and stop moving goalposts and No True Scotsman-ing the situation.

Why is it that the left-wing in America insists they're centrists and the only true left-winger who ever existed is Lenin and Marx? Stop with this retarded slide-rule comparison to the rest of the world.

"Derp.. we're not supporting Maoism or a generic far right-wing boogeyman so we must be centrists!"

Do you support expanded gov't powers into dictating social and economic equalization? Congrats, you're on the left. Get your free Che shirt and name tag and gather in the lobby while waiting for the show to start.


oi50.tinypic.com

Almost every modern western nation has a number of parties that represent the far left, the far right, and all the areas in between. The US is one of the few that truly lacks a far left party.

Personally, I think this isn't a bad thing because historically (pre-Regan) it ensured we had a slow moving, but not stagnant, progressive growth with national policies. It gave us remarkable stability as our more conservative parties ensured we didn't change too rapidly and in a responsible way, while our "left" typically didn't have the political capital to spend on radical changes unless they were desperately needed across the country. This balance has been slowly becoming defunct as what left we had got pulled even farther to the right, making little difference between our former Republicans and modern Democrats.

Regardless of your party affiliation or personal politics, this is simply a fact. ACA, or Obamacare, is actually a conservative version of national health care, first suggested in the late 60s and slowly gaining political will through the 90s until it was shelved during George W. Bush's presidency. Most of our banking regulations, political decisions, and most of the "scandal" actions laid at Obama's blame are very similar to actions taken by both the Bush Presidents, and many conservatives from the 1940s to present.

That doesn't mean you have to like them, or that a farther right position is invalid. That's up to your personal politics. But the fact we have shifted considerably right in a fairly short time period (about 30 years) from an already right leaning position is simply a fact of our country, and one that is easy to overlook due to no strong left party having existed in our history.
 
2013-05-30 07:09:37 AM  

Alphax: part of the problem: Whiny was whining because they "have no voice in US politics". Only a daymn socialist thinks this is a problem. If the useless malcontents in the tea party can get themslves heard then you have to conclude anyone less competent than that is just lazy or dumb.

Or the 'Tea Party' has the Fox 'News' network, and much of AM radio to spew their garbage on.


Again. Whining. What is wrong with you people? There is plenty of far left media. Clearly Michael Moore is still eating so you cant claim you don't have mouthpieces. The Occupy movement got plenty of coverage. But that is your problem. No actual adult wants the country run by trust fund hippies. Just admit your ideas have been heard and rejected.

If AM RADIO is one of your movements biggest obstacles in 2013 you have failed. Maybe it's time to ditch the patchouli oil and get a job.
 
2013-05-30 07:12:17 AM  

part of the problem: There is plenty of far left media.


Say what?
 
2013-05-30 07:21:24 AM  

Alphax: part of the problem: There is plenty of far left media.

Say what?


You do know about the internet, right?
I'm an NRA member who drives a pickup truck and even I read Mother Jones. Diverse opinions are not hard to find/
Seriously, quit whining. You want your little hippy dippy Social/Democrat party then get off your hack sack playin' arse and go start it.
 
2013-05-30 07:57:14 AM  
bgddy24601:

Kittypie070:

hardinparamedic:

glmorrs1:

MBP2112:


It is a Quote. Not sure if he posted it because he agrees, or if he was just pointing out the wharrgarbl.
 
2013-05-30 08:24:09 AM  
Does this metamorphosis happenmore llike a butterfly or a werewolf?
 
2013-05-30 08:34:44 AM  
Why wouldn't he? The farking GOP has basically become a collection of regressive, proudly ignorant clowns.

The Democrats have taken over the Center Right in this country while the GOP has sailed out into far right field.

I'm further to the left than most Democratic politicians (including Obama), but I'll take them over any GOP politician, to be honest. Like I said yesterday, I will actively vote against any GOP politician whenever I get the opportunity.
 
2013-05-30 09:02:43 AM  
I didn't leave the Republican party, the Republican party left the human race.
 
2013-05-30 09:39:35 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Does this metamorphosis happenmore llike a butterfly or a werewolf?


I think it is more of a beer-goggles effect.
 
2013-05-30 09:41:19 AM  

vygramul: bgddy24601:

Kittypie070:

hardinparamedic:

glmorrs1:

MBP2112:

It is a Quote. Not sure if he posted it because he agrees, or if he was just pointing out the wharrgarbl.


Cool, then if that was the case my comment is directed at whoever the hell Adam Kokesh is.

But thank jeebus you were here to point that out, god knows its hard enough for people to defend themselves on the internet.
 
2013-05-30 09:49:47 AM  

glmorrs1: vygramul: bgddy24601:

Kittypie070:

hardinparamedic:

glmorrs1:

MBP2112:

It is a Quote. Not sure if he posted it because he agrees, or if he was just pointing out the wharrgarbl.

Cool, then if that was the case my comment is directed at whoever the hell Adam Kokesh is.

But thank jeebus you were here to point that out, god knows its hard enough for people to defend themselves on the internet.


How DARE you insult Adam Kokesh! He ran for Congress in 2010 and received the endorsement of RON PAUL!

(I blame all of this on the LSD they put in the grass in Iraq to make our military personnel pacifists and shiat.)
 
2013-05-30 10:53:06 AM  

BMulligan: As usual, you are as wrong as it is possible for one to be - reality is exactly opposite of what you've said here. It isn't Democrats saying, "We're not liberals; we're centrists." It's liberals saying, "The Democrats are too centrist and refuse to propose or support liberal policies." Which is absolutely true, by the way. Any American liberal has at best a relationship of convenience with the Democratic Party. If there were an actual liberal party in America, a lot of us would flee the Democratic sphere of influence in a hot second.


Yea, you can't possibly believe that assertion and not be naive. You're like the closeted gay man who refuses to believe he's gay even though he keep having sex with men.

When you and a whole slew of your brethren show up to vote for the Democrat, congrats, you're electing the liberal lefty. That the liberal lefty can't enact all of the far left policies you want doesn't make them centrist all of a sudden. That's completely disingenuous to say that there is no left-wing in America because they're not left-wing enough quick enough.

By your argument, there is no right-wing party in America. And actually, it's far closer to the truth then your assertion. Policy isn't moving in a right-wing direction at all despite the whining of the disingenuous lefties in America. Gov't isn't getting smaller, immigration policy isn't getting enforced, economic policy isn't getting leaner either.

LordJiro: Are Republicans just seriously incapable in seeing nuance? Is their worldview just ENTIRELY black-and-white, with us or against us, good vs. evil?

Because that is an extremely childish worldview. Which would, come to think of it, explain the GOP's childish actions, like shutting down the government whenever the voters don't give them absolute power.


Excellent rebuttal. The skill you displayed in facing the issue and rebutting it was legendary. Oh wait, strike that and reverse it. All you did was insult me and issue an ad hominem. At no point did you make a point.

Nuance? Please. Nuance doesn't mean what you think it means by your usage. It's just a buzzword you liberal/lefties throw around to explain your inability to be proud and honest about your goals.

JollyMagistrate: Regardless of your party affiliation or personal politics, this is simply a fact. ACA, or Obamacare, is actually a conservative version of national health care, first suggested in the late 60s and slowly gaining political will through the 90s until it was shelved during George W. Bush's presidency.


The conservative version of national healthcare is no national health care. The plans put forth earlier were compromises. Why did it get shelved? Because America was more right-wing 40 years ago and when some in the party proposed it they were told to sit down and shut up.

JollyMagistrate: But the fact we have shifted considerably right in a fairly short time period (about 30 years) from an already right leaning position is simply a fact of our country, and one that is easy to overlook due to no strong left party having existed in our history.


This is the asserted fact that seems to exist through sheer will with no proof of it ever having been born. Thirty years ago, Reagan had just been elected to the White House... and we're further right than that? Are you saying that Mitt Romney was too right-wing for the White House? That if Obama with all his policy positions ran in 1980 he'd still be ideal? Homosexual marriage would be more popular? People would be demanding tax raises?

It's a nice talking point. It's very comforting to lefty/liberals/progressive for why they're not an absolute majority but it's complete tripe.

JollyMagistrate: Almost every modern western nation has a number of parties that represent the far left, the far right, and all the areas in between. The US is one of the few that truly lacks a far left party.


Most other nations lack a successful right-wing party. UKIP is the closest to a significantly right-wing party Europe has that is getting traction. After that, the typical right-wing party gets a few percent at best during an election.

You know though Fark headlines about "America is so right-wing that even the right-wing in Europe favors [random socialistic policy]", it's because their right-wing typically consists of left-wingers who hate immigrants. In France Le Pen's party favored most of the economic policies of the socialist that won with the biggest disagreement being over degree. Some people just like to win by definition though so parties like the BNP, which favors a strong to moderate gov't role in economic and social equality are right-wing because their chief gripe is nationalism (which always gets the entirety of the group lumped in with the right even when it's their sole agreement).
 
2013-05-30 12:17:29 PM  

bgddy24601: Aquapope: Ray_Peranus: stuff blah blah blah stuff
/kokesh

Is that supposed to be a David Koresh quote?  "kokesh" doesn't return anything in the Googles... so can't be very important.  So what are you saying?  or not saying, in your own words if you can.

Its from THIS. I don't envy your journey if you go there but if you do I pray you come back safe.

/Can I come with you to the past? I'm an excellent cook and a great travel companion. The Doctor asked me to join him once but I was studying for finals.


lol, I don't want to go to the past.  I hate slavery and don't believe it to be a '1776 revolution' as Alex Bones put it on Piers.  I (didn't) take statistics in school but the numbers show that areas with high gun control have more crimes and that probably isn't a coincidence.  I personally hate guns but would don't advocate the disarming of someone.  You're probably a mature adult who if you had a gun would keep it locked up in a safe and never take the shiat out unless you were hunting or someone was breaking in your house.  If I was a criminal it makes sense not to start committing crime if I know someone had the means to blow my head off in self-defence of their family. And I wouldn't need some shiatty government to try me while Nancy Grace beats off under the chair watching some shiatty jury try the person that did.  The people would be smart enough to put 2 and 2 together and either see they were a trigger happy sociopath or if they were using fair judgement.
 
2013-05-30 03:12:33 PM  

part of the problem: Whiny was whining because they "have no voice in US politics". Only a daymn socialist thinks this is a problem. If the useless malcontents in the tea party can get themslves heard then you have to conclude anyone less competent than that is just lazy or dumb.


Yeah! Astroturf is fine! Why do we need grassroots?
 
2013-05-30 06:16:24 PM  

NewportBarGuy: The man did two things no other Republican in the Senate did... He voted against Bush's tax cuts, and he voted against authorizing force in Iraq. Just as he promised he would. You can say he did it because he was in a safe seat, but he was not and he lost to Sheldon Whitehouse because of those two votes.

He also called correctly for the state NOT to fund 38 Studios. Those three things are enough to ensure my vote and many other Rhode Islanders regardless of what silly letter is after his name. He was a Republican politician because his Father was a Republican politician. Much like how many families keep the same affiliation, with notable exceptions of course.

Sure, he is Governor Gump. He has sh*tty public speaking habits and is kinda slow. However, he has been an honorable man and voted the right way in the eyes of history, when it really mattered.

Hope he stays.


Makes me question why the hell he is a Rep... oh right, reason for the thread.
 
2013-05-30 09:42:23 PM  
"For anybody to imply that affiliating as a Democrat is NOT simply about politics or about winning an election, doesn't know Gov. Chafee."

/fixed
 
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