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(Chicago Trib)   Disney employee arrested in Toontown bombing. Police search for receipt from "Acme"   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 79
    More: Followup, Toontown, Disneyland, destructive device, Anaheim Police Department, West Covina  
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2013-05-29 05:47:18 PM
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2013-05-29 06:01:00 PM
Hm, dropped a bottle of dry ice in the trash?  Hardly seems like an intentional terrorist attack.  I doubt they even knew it would explode. Kids don't really pay attention to sciencey things there days.

"It said Barnes "indicated this is an isolated incident with unanticipated impacts."
 
2013-05-29 06:09:53 PM
$1 million bail?  Is a 22 year old Disneyland outdoor vendor who dropped a bottle of dry ice in a trash can really considered that much of a flight risk or risk to society?
 
2013-05-29 06:19:00 PM

doglover: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 299x225]


Aaand, we're done here.
 
2013-05-29 06:22:07 PM
Acme was WB.
 
2013-05-29 06:29:53 PM

2wolves: Acme was WB.


True, but WFRR was a collaboration between multiple studios.
 
2013-05-29 06:30:42 PM

bob_ross: Hm, dropped a bottle of dry ice in the trash?  Hardly seems like an intentional terrorist attack.  I doubt they even knew it would explode. Kids don't really pay attention to sciencey things there days.

"It said Barnes "indicated this is an isolated incident with unanticipated impacts."


Yeah, that's what I was thinking.  We had some idiot mix bleach and ammonia in boot camp, trying to home-brew some super-solvent to get scuff marks off the floor.  He ended up getting medically discharged after inhaling that shiat, and chemically burning his lungs.
 
2013-05-29 06:31:52 PM

Radak: $1 million bail?  Is a 22 year old Disneyland outdoor vendor who dropped a bottle of dry ice in a trash can really considered that much of a flight risk or risk to society?


Playing Devil's Advocate: He set off a very loud explosion in a densely-packed tourist spot. If there had been a panic, people could have been trampled to death or otherwise seriously injured. I'm inclined to believe the legal system considers such a prank pulled at Disneyland a much different beast than if it's pulled in someone's back yard. The result of the prank could literally be deadly, and the guy either didn't have enough foresight/sense to know this risk, or was callously indifferent to the risk. Either of those cases makes someone a potential "danger to society."
 
2013-05-29 06:38:35 PM

Sgt Otter: bob_ross: Hm, dropped a bottle of dry ice in the trash?  Hardly seems like an intentional terrorist attack.  I doubt they even knew it would explode. Kids don't really pay attention to sciencey things there days.

"It said Barnes "indicated this is an isolated incident with unanticipated impacts."

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.  We had some idiot mix bleach and ammonia in boot camp, trying to home-brew some super-solvent to get scuff marks off the floor.  He ended up getting medically discharged after inhaling that shiat, and chemically burning his lungs.


Maybe he just didn't want to get sent to Iraq.
 
2013-05-29 06:43:37 PM
Following up on my earlier post, the Wikipedia entry on the crime of "Endangerment" has the following sub-section:

Reckless endangerment: A person commits the crime of reckless endangerment if the person recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person. "Reckless" conduct is conduct that exhibits a culpable disregard of foreseeable consequences to others from the act or omission involved. The accused need not intentionally cause a resulting harm. The ultimate question is whether, under all the circumstances, the accused's conduct was of that heedless nature that made it actually or imminently dangerous to the rights or safety of others.

Whether this warrants a cool million in bail is debatable, but I think the circumstances qualify for something a little more drastic than "Oh, you!"
 
2013-05-29 06:56:46 PM

bob_ross: Hm, dropped a bottle of dry ice in the trash?  Hardly seems like an intentional terrorist attack.  I doubt they even knew it would explode. Kids don't really pay attention to sciencey things there days.

"It said Barnes "indicated this is an isolated incident with unanticipated impacts."


It was the Dip. Harmless to humans...
 
2013-05-29 06:58:38 PM

BKITU: If there had been a panic,


In this day and age
In these times
In a society sculpted to shait its britches when you pop a paper bag
Whatever.

Nutless wonders.
Nation of pussies.
 
2013-05-29 06:58:38 PM

doglover: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 299x225]


Done, right in the pooper.
 
2013-05-29 06:58:57 PM

bob_ross: Hm, dropped a bottle of dry ice in the trash?  Hardly seems like an intentional terrorist attack.  I doubt they even knew it would explode. Kids don't really pay attention to sciencey things there days.

"It said Barnes "indicated this is an isolated incident with unanticipated impacts."


I heard about this on KPCC this afternoon.  Apparently there have been a fair number of "dry ice bombs" in the Long Beach area recently; coincidentally (or not), this kid is also from Long Beach.

So, it may or may not be an isolated incident.
 
2013-05-29 07:00:32 PM
Dry ice in a plastic bottle is not a 'bomb' any more than a straw and spit balls is a 'gun'.
 
2013-05-29 07:02:26 PM

bob_ross: Hm, dropped a bottle of dry ice in the trash?  Hardly seems like an intentional terrorist attack.  I doubt they even knew it would explode. Kids don't really pay attention to sciencey things there days.

"It said Barnes "indicated this is an isolated incident with unanticipated impacts."


The dry ice appeared to have been placed in a plastic bottle that was left in a trash can in Toontown.

Doesn't sound like an accident. Yes it is not a "Terrorist attack" but still it was a dumb thing to do and he should get in trouble for it.
 
2013-05-29 07:05:37 PM

Talondel: Dry ice in a plastic bottle is not a 'bomb' any more than a straw and spit balls is a 'gun'.


Yeah, that won't hurt you unless it pops you in the eye or you're sitting on it, but it could have incited a stampede in a place full of fat tourists, mobility scooters, and small children. Trouble brewing.
 
2013-05-29 07:07:37 PM
Is that the same guy that's been doing the "insider" Disney videos, the ones ranting about working at Disney?
 
2013-05-29 07:08:58 PM
Damn Christians.
 
2013-05-29 07:09:14 PM
doglover:   Yeah, that's what I was thinking.  We had some idiot mix bleach and ammonia in boot camp, trying to home-brew some super-solvent to get scuff marks off the floor.  He ended up getting medically discharged after inhaling that shiat, and chemically burning his lungs.

Maybe he just didn't want to get sent to Iraq.

"Son, there ain't no draft no more"

- Sergeant Hulka, "Stripes"
 
2013-05-29 07:10:03 PM

BKITU: Radak: $1 million bail?  Is a 22 year old Disneyland outdoor vendor who dropped a bottle of dry ice in a trash can really considered that much of a flight risk or risk to society?

Playing Devil's Advocate: He set off a very loud explosion in a densely-packed tourist spot. If there had been a panic, people could have been trampled to death or otherwise seriously injured. I'm inclined to believe the legal system considers such a prank pulled at Disneyland a much different beast than if it's pulled in someone's back yard. The result of the prank could literally be deadly, and the guy either didn't have enough foresight/sense to know this risk, or was callously indifferent to the risk. Either of those cases makes someone a potential "danger to society."


cdn1.sbnation.com
They knew what they were getting into
 
mjg
2013-05-29 07:17:10 PM
Toontown - Saskatoon?
 
2013-05-29 07:23:52 PM
Did he have red burning eyes and a high squeaking voice?
 
2013-05-29 07:27:51 PM

Radak: $1 million bail?  Is a 22 year old Disneyland outdoor vendor who dropped a bottle of dry ice in a trash can really considered that much of a flight risk or risk to society?


got to set the bar high. meanwhile the 22 yr old son of wealth is farking thousands of families out of their life savings, a crime for which he will never be held accountable.
 
2013-05-29 07:29:23 PM
FTA:  They did not give a motive for the incident

'cause it's funny.  Next question.


FTA: "You wouldn't expect situations like that coming to a place like this. That is crazy, that's wild," said West Covina resident Jonathan Rosario, who was at the park with a toddler as music to the "It's a Small World" echoed in the background. "It reminds us we all need to do our part to be safe."

*SMACK!*
 
2013-05-29 07:34:14 PM

Corvus: bob_ross: Hm, dropped a bottle of dry ice in the trash?  Hardly seems like an intentional terrorist attack.  I doubt they even knew it would explode. Kids don't really pay attention to sciencey things there days.

"It said Barnes "indicated this is an isolated incident with unanticipated impacts."

The dry ice appeared to have been placed in a plastic bottle that was left in a trash can in Toontown.

Doesn't sound like an accident. Yes it is not a "Terrorist attack" but still it was a dumb thing to do and he should get in trouble for it.


This! If you are going to do something like this, do it away from other people. Deserves everything he gets as far as criminal punishment.
 
2013-05-29 07:34:58 PM

bob_ross: Hm, dropped a bottle of dry ice in the trash?  Hardly seems like an intentional terrorist attack.  I doubt they even knew it would explode. Kids don't really pay attention to sciencey things there days.

"It said Barnes "indicated this is an isolated incident with unanticipated impacts."


He knew.  He was a copycat.
 There have been a rash of these in LA recently, according to TFA.
 
2013-05-29 07:35:28 PM
Did the kid look like this?

tng.trekcore.com

Maybe he shouldn't have crossed the white fence.

Death sentence...
 
2013-05-29 07:40:08 PM
I just got laid off from Disney, so I'm getting a kick...

... there have been a bunch of these around Anaheim in particular, so it sounds like he was trying it out before hitting Toon Town.
 
2013-05-29 07:43:56 PM
So that's why he dropped exploding dry ice into a garbage can? For this freeway? I don't get it.
 
2013-05-29 07:47:17 PM
On the case:

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/Sucks the pilot didn't get picked up
 
2013-05-29 07:48:20 PM

viscountalpha: Deserves everything he gets as far as criminal punishment.


"Long Beach resident Christian Barnes, an outdoor vending "cast member," ... is being held in lieu of bail of $1 million."

Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.



real american justice for making a plastic bottle pop.

But DUI's resulting in a fatality go for only $100K
 
2013-05-29 07:50:09 PM

KrispyKritter: got to set the bar high. meanwhile the 22 yr old son of wealth is farking thousands of families out of their life savings, a crime for which he will never be held accountable.


So, don't give your life savings to someone you don't trust? My 401k advisor has done alright by me.
 
2013-05-29 07:50:35 PM

Radak: $1 million bail?  Is a 22 year old Disneyland outdoor vendor who dropped a bottle of dry ice in a trash can really considered that much of a flight risk or risk to society?


You don't f*ck with the Mouse, my friend. They don't like their cast members acting like idiots on sacred property.

He should be glad he ONLY got arrested.
 
2013-05-29 07:51:47 PM
Photo of the suspect:

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/GARBAGE DAY!
 
2013-05-29 07:55:19 PM
Saskatoon got bombed? O_o
 
2013-05-29 08:01:21 PM

AgentKGB: Saskatoon got bombed? O_o


Moose Jaw saw a few, Moosomee too
Runnin' back to Saskatoon
Red Deer, Terrace and a Medicine Hat
Sing another prairie tune
Sing another prairie tune
 
2013-05-29 08:01:46 PM

Gyrfalcon: Radak: $1 million bail?  Is a 22 year old Disneyland outdoor vendor who dropped a bottle of dry ice in a trash can really considered that much of a flight risk or risk to society?

You don't f*ck with the Mouse, my friend. They don't like their cast members acting like idiots on sacred property.

He should be glad he ONLY got arrested.


It's Cali, they're stoned, unarmed, and the cops can't shoot straight.  At worse he would have gotten tazed.  Had this happened in Orlando at Disney World, some Floridan would have put 2 mags in the guy before the bottle finished exploding.
 
2013-05-29 08:05:04 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: viscountalpha: Deserves everything he gets as far as criminal punishment.

"Long Beach resident Christian Barnes, an outdoor vending "cast member," ... is being held in lieu of bail of $1 million."

Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

real american justice for making a plastic bottle pop.

But DUI's resulting in a fatality go for only $100K


How far can a drunk driver go before running into something and thus being easy to catch?
 
TWX
2013-05-29 08:13:37 PM
For a moment there I thought that someone had done something else to the Stata Center at MIT...
 
2013-05-29 08:14:07 PM

BKITU: Following up on my earlier post, the Wikipedia entry on the crime of "Endangerment" has the following sub-section:

Reckless endangerment: A person commits the crime of reckless endangerment if the person recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person. "Reckless" conduct is conduct that exhibits a culpable disregard of foreseeable consequences to others from the act or omission involved. The accused need not intentionally cause a resulting harm. The ultimate question is whether, under all the circumstances, the accused's conduct was of that heedless nature that made it actually or imminently dangerous to the rights or safety of others.

Whether this warrants a cool million in bail is debatable, but I think the circumstances qualify for something a little more drastic than "Oh, you!"


Pretty much this. The severity of the bail is based on the potential risk of injury from a mass stampede. If I did some stupid practical joke that, say, knocked out power to a dozen city blocks, I'd expect bail to be around $1 mil too, even if the prank itself was harmless.

Also, Disney is probably insanely pissed at this guy. Firing at least, possibly sued. They don't like having the outside investigators coming into their parks. Everything short of rape. kidnapping, & murder is handled in-house to minimize bad publicity. They have their own security and medical personnel to handle things quietly and discretely. One of my last trips to Disneyland, I ate at the Blue bayou, the restaurant inside Pirates of the Carribean. One of the servers had injured herself, a bad burn IIRC. They were hustling her out on a stretcher handled by Disney EMTs. And there were more corporate suits surrounding her than EMT's of park security combined.
 
2013-05-29 08:25:36 PM
I'm so glad I have access to a gravel pit. Only once did the cops come. And that was from two big garbage bags filled with acetylene and oxy. Much bigger than I expected. Cops were impressed. And told me not to do it again. Brake fluid and chlorine works fine for gopher removal
 
2013-05-29 08:52:56 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: AgentKGB: Saskatoon got bombed? O_o

Moose Jaw saw a few, Moosomee too
Runnin' back to Saskatoon
Red Deer, Terrace and a Medicine Hat
Sing another prairie tune
Sing another prairie tune


Thaaaaat's how that goes,  I could never make out the first line beyond Moose Jaw.  I always wondered where Moose Oven was.
 
2013-05-29 08:59:51 PM
Corvus [TotalFark]


Doesn't sound like an accident. Yes it is not a "Terrorist attack" but still it was a dumb thing to do and he should get in trouble for it.
with fark in a twist supporting the dumb bit** that put a chemical bomb together at her school I have to wonder if your post in those threads is consistent.
 
2013-05-29 09:07:10 PM

SumoJeb: I'm so glad I have access to a gravel pit. Only once did the cops come. And that was from two big garbage bags filled with acetylene and oxy. Much bigger than I expected. Cops were impressed. And told me not to do it again. Brake fluid and chlorine works fine for gopher removal


Unca Donald? What have you been up to?
 
2013-05-29 09:08:44 PM
Somebody call Eddie Valiant!
 
2013-05-29 09:31:31 PM
In other words, they have a guy who should be charged with improper disposal of a non-hazardous substance.  But since all the powers-that-be routinely improperly dispose of just about everything, they have to call it something else.

/stay terrified, folks.
 
2013-05-29 09:31:57 PM
Dry Ice blowing the cap off a soda bottle constitutes a "bomb" these days huh?
 
2013-05-29 09:36:27 PM

Sgt Otter: bob_ross: Hm, dropped a bottle of dry ice in the trash?  Hardly seems like an intentional terrorist attack.  I doubt they even knew it would explode. Kids don't really pay attention to sciencey things there days.

"It said Barnes "indicated this is an isolated incident with unanticipated impacts."

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.  We had some idiot mix bleach and ammonia in boot camp, trying to home-brew some super-solvent to get scuff marks off the floor.  He ended up getting medically discharged after inhaling that shiat, and chemically burning his lungs.


So this is why we were only allowed to use very specific (color-coded) chemicals in very specific places. I just figured it was the same reason we rolled out socks and made our bunks with hospital corners.
 
2013-05-29 09:40:42 PM

Bondith: Day_Old_Dutchie: AgentKGB: Saskatoon got bombed? O_o

Moose Jaw saw a few, Moosomee too
Runnin' back to Saskatoon
Red Deer, Terrace and a Medicine Hat
Sing another prairie tune
Sing another prairie tune

Thaaaaat's how that goes,  I could never make out the first line beyond Moose Jaw.  I always wondered where Moose Oven was.


It goes

red here terry and a medicine hat
singing up a pale or two
singing up a pale or two

/or at least it has for more than 30 years
 
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