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(Salon)   Tennessee congressman wants to end food stamps, because being poor means you don't have a job, and quotes 2 Thessalonians 3:10 "And verily, Jesus did say: 'Fark the poor'"   (salon.com ) divider line 335
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2013-05-29 08:18:49 AM  
Would somebody punch him, please?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-05-29 08:31:26 AM  
Sounds like a true man of God.
 
2013-05-29 08:42:46 AM  
So, the author of this letter laws down the law

That sounds complicated.
 
2013-05-29 08:47:56 AM  
It's amazing how these Christians always completely ignore literally everything Jesus said in the Gospels about how to treat your fellow man.

But then again, hatred is easier than good and they never want to have to make the sacrifices that their God commands them to make.
 
2013-05-29 08:53:21 AM  
Totally figured that was going to be Campfield.
 
2013-05-29 08:59:21 AM  
17As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. "Good teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?"

18"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered.  "No one is good-except God alone.

19You know the commandments: 'You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.

20"Teacher," he declared, "all these I have kept since I was a boy."

21Jesus looked at him and loved him.  "One thing you lack," he said.  "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor,and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

22At this the man's face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23Jesus looked around and said to his disciples,  "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!"- Mark 10:17-23


Rep. Fincher should be ashamed.
 
2013-05-29 09:01:45 AM  
My problem with food stamps is that it gives poor folks (many of whom have become poor through bad decision making skills) too much discretion over what they spend it on.  You can spend your entire handout on Snickers bars if you want to, and some people do.

I'd rather see it treated like WIC, where you get a list of specific stuff your kid needs (gallon of milk, box of cereal, x amount of vegetables, carton of eggs, package of diapers, etc) then you hand your WIC list to the cashier and the government reimburses the store for whatever the cost was.  People who don't buy all the shiat on the list (because they think their kids won't eat real food) are a definite problem, but at least that way they neglect their kids without wasting tax money.
 
2013-05-29 09:06:31 AM  
Christ, what an asshole.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-05-29 09:09:16 AM  

serial_crusher: My problem with food stamps is that it gives poor folks (many of whom have become poor through bad decision making skills) too much discretion over what they spend it on.  You can spend your entire handout on Snickers bars if you want to, and some people do.

I'd rather see it treated like WIC, where you get a list of specific stuff your kid needs (gallon of milk, box of cereal, x amount of vegetables, carton of eggs, package of diapers, etc) then you hand your WIC list to the cashier and the government reimburses the store for whatever the cost was.  People who don't buy all the shiat on the list (because they think their kids won't eat real food) are a definite problem, but at least that way they neglect their kids without wasting tax money.


So?  If they do that a couple of times they will learn.
 
2013-05-29 09:11:55 AM  

nmrsnr: Christ, what an asshole.


As an aside, a semi-colon instead of a comma changes that statement; completely.
 
2013-05-29 09:13:32 AM  

serial_crusher: My problem with food stamps is that it gives poor folks (many of whom have become poor through bad decision making skills) too much discretion over what they spend it on.  You can spend your entire handout on Snickers bars if you want to, and some people do.

I'd rather see it treated like WIC, where you get a list of specific stuff your kid needs (gallon of milk, box of cereal, x amount of vegetables, carton of eggs, package of diapers, etc) then you hand your WIC list to the cashier and the government reimburses the store for whatever the cost was.  People who don't buy all the shiat on the list (because they think their kids won't eat real food) are a definite problem, but at least that way they neglect their kids without wasting tax money.


I've seen people use their EBT for piles of candy, soft drinks, and energy drinks so I'm okay with this.
farking buy real food, not crap.
 
2013-05-29 09:18:36 AM  
I once saw someone use EBT to purchase a food item defined as permissible by USDA that I don't think is as nutritious as it should have been = ALL POOR PEOPLE ARE SCAMMING THE SYSTEM STOP WELFARE NOW

I once read a report of a bank using outright lies, deceit, and fraud to needlessly foreclose on a couple's house = ALL BANKS ARE SCAMMING THE SYSTEM BREAK UP THE BIG BANKS NOW

Oh, wait, it never actually seems to work that way.
 
2013-05-29 09:20:07 AM  

vpb: serial_crusher: My problem with food stamps is that it gives poor folks (many of whom have become poor through bad decision making skills) too much discretion over what they spend it on.  You can spend your entire handout on Snickers bars if you want to, and some people do.

I'd rather see it treated like WIC, where you get a list of specific stuff your kid needs (gallon of milk, box of cereal, x amount of vegetables, carton of eggs, package of diapers, etc) then you hand your WIC list to the cashier and the government reimburses the store for whatever the cost was.  People who don't buy all the shiat on the list (because they think their kids won't eat real food) are a definite problem, but at least that way they neglect their kids without wasting tax money.

So?  If they do that a couple of times they will learn.


Do what a couple times?  The Snickers bars?  No, nobody learns anything from that.  They get fat and blame their thyroid problem.
Or they complain that real food is too expensive, when actually what they mean is 6000 calories of real food a day is more expensive than 6000 calories a day of junk food.  If they ate a reasonable amount their food stamps would cover real food.
 
2013-05-29 09:21:44 AM  

serial_crusher: Do what a couple times? The Snickers bars? No, nobody learns anything from that. They get fat and blame their thyroid problem.
Or they complain that real food is too expensive, when actually what they mean is 6000 calories of real food a day is more expensive than 6000 calories a day of junk food. If they ate a reasonable amount their food stamps would cover real food.


That's something all people should learn, whether they're on food stamps or not.
 
2013-05-29 09:29:55 AM  
So the pittance people get in food stamps is a handout but most of the richest people in the world inherited it and that's not a handout?
 
2013-05-29 09:34:09 AM  
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/oblig
 
2013-05-29 09:37:49 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I once saw someone use EBT to purchase a food item defined as permissible by USDA that I don't think is as nutritious as it should have been = ALL POOR PEOPLE ARE SCAMMING THE SYSTEM STOP WELFARE NOW

I once read a report of a bank using outright lies, deceit, and fraud to needlessly foreclose on a couple's house = ALL BANKS ARE SCAMMING THE SYSTEM BREAK UP THE BIG BANKS NOW

Oh, wait, it never actually seems to work that way.


I once worked in a convenience store and rarely witnessed EBT being used for milk, bread, etc. but often times saw it used for Red Bull, candy, and other junk.

I think the food stamp program is a great thing, I just feel the funds should be spent on more nutritional items.
 
2013-05-29 09:41:43 AM  

Krymson Tyde: I once worked in a convenience store and rarely witnessed EBT being used for milk, bread, etc. but often times saw it used for Red Bull, candy, and other junk.

I think the food stamp program is a great thing, I just feel the funds should be spent on more nutritional items.


Why do you care?
 
2013-05-29 09:43:02 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Pocket Ninja: I once saw someone use EBT to purchase a food item defined as permissible by USDA that I don't think is as nutritious as it should have been = ALL POOR PEOPLE ARE SCAMMING THE SYSTEM STOP WELFARE NOW

I once read a report of a bank using outright lies, deceit, and fraud to needlessly foreclose on a couple's house = ALL BANKS ARE SCAMMING THE SYSTEM BREAK UP THE BIG BANKS NOW

Oh, wait, it never actually seems to work that way.

I once worked in a convenience store and rarely witnessed EBT being used for milk, bread, etc. but often times saw it used for Red Bull, candy, and other junk.

I think the food stamp program is a great thing, I just feel the funds should be spent on more nutritional items.


I should add to this.

I know the vast majority of people aren't doing what I mentioned above. It just seems like a real waste by the few that are. Would I suggest reducing funding because of it? No, but education regarding nutrition and perhaps limiting the amount available for junk food would be some good steps to take.
 
2013-05-29 09:45:15 AM  
f*ck.
 
2013-05-29 09:45:36 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Pocket Ninja: I once saw someone use EBT to purchase a food item defined as permissible by USDA that I don't think is as nutritious as it should have been = ALL POOR PEOPLE ARE SCAMMING THE SYSTEM STOP WELFARE NOW

I once read a report of a bank using outright lies, deceit, and fraud to needlessly foreclose on a couple's house = ALL BANKS ARE SCAMMING THE SYSTEM BREAK UP THE BIG BANKS NOW

Oh, wait, it never actually seems to work that way.

I once worked in a convenience store and rarely witnessed EBT being used for milk, bread, etc. but often times saw it used for Red Bull, candy, and other junk.

I think the food stamp program is a great thing, I just feel the funds should be spent on more nutritional items.


I like the people who trade their EBT for 75 cents on the dollar and then buy drugs.  Those people are my favorite people.
 
2013-05-29 09:45:57 AM  

Krymson Tyde: I once worked in a convenience store and rarely witnessed EBT being used for milk, bread, etc. but often times saw it used for Red Bull, candy, and other junk.

I think the food stamp program is a great thing, I just feel the funds should be spent on more nutritional items.


I'm sure people were buying real food, but your stereotyped mind made it so that what stuck out to you is when people spent them on "junk".  It's like when you buy a certain kind of car before you purchase it you never see them on the road but as soon as you are driving one you notice them everywhere.

We give them money that can only be spent on food because people would flip their shiat if you up the cash assistance part of welfare, then you complain that they are not buying the food you think they should be buying.  Who cares it's their money they can buy what they like.  I love how you complain about junk food but I bet you also complain that they are buying steaks with their food stamps.

Yes it is public funds but so are police and teacher salaries, so do you feel you can tell them how they can spend their money?
 
2013-05-29 09:47:21 AM  
Always beware of people who would use a book about love and tolerance to justify their own hate.
 
2013-05-29 09:48:25 AM  

Mugato: Krymson Tyde: I once worked in a convenience store and rarely witnessed EBT being used for milk, bread, etc. but often times saw it used for Red Bull, candy, and other junk.

I think the food stamp program is a great thing, I just feel the funds should be spent on more nutritional items.

Why do you care?


Why do I care that people who most likely have children are spending funds meant to provide supplemental nutritional assistance on junk food instead of items that would give their children proper nutrition?
Gee, I don't know. Why would that bother me?
 
2013-05-29 09:48:47 AM  
I also don't see any reason why you can't limit people's choice with what to buy with food stamps to make sure they are buying real food, but the huge companies that own the elected officials are the ones making money off selling high profit margin junk to people on food stamps. So even though you have something both sides of the aisle can agree on it will never get changed.
 
2013-05-29 09:49:54 AM  

serial_crusher: My problem with food stamps is that it gives poor folks (many of whom have become poor through bad decision making skills) too much discretion over what they spend it on.  You can spend your entire handout on Snickers bars if you want to, and some people do.

I'd rather see it treated like WIC, where you get a list of specific stuff your kid needs (gallon of milk, box of cereal, x amount of vegetables, carton of eggs, package of diapers, etc) then you hand your WIC list to the cashier and the government reimburses the store for whatever the cost was.  People who don't buy all the shiat on the list (because they think their kids won't eat real food) are a definite problem, but at least that way they neglect their kids without wasting tax money.


That carries problems of its own. What if the kid is lactose intolerant? What if they already get vegetables through a family friend or home garden? It's bad that food stamps get spent on junk but a government defined diet would probably be just as bad if not worse.
 
2013-05-29 09:50:16 AM  
This guy would support food stamps if they at least made the recipients pray to Jesus, or maybe let a group of "social workers" preach to them for a while first.
 
2013-05-29 09:50:28 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Pocket Ninja: I once saw someone use EBT to purchase a food item defined as permissible by USDA that I don't think is as nutritious as it should have been = ALL POOR PEOPLE ARE SCAMMING THE SYSTEM STOP WELFARE NOW

I once read a report of a bank using outright lies, deceit, and fraud to needlessly foreclose on a couple's house = ALL BANKS ARE SCAMMING THE SYSTEM BREAK UP THE BIG BANKS NOW

Oh, wait, it never actually seems to work that way.

I once worked in a convenience store and rarely witnessed EBT being used for milk, bread, etc. but often times saw it used for Red Bull, candy, and other junk.

I think the food stamp program is a great thing, I just feel the funds should be spent on more nutritional items.


Sampling bias. You worked in a convenience store.
 
2013-05-29 09:50:57 AM  
Krymson Tyde:I know the vast majority of people aren't doing what I mentioned above. It just seems like a real waste by the few that are. Would I suggest reducing funding because of it? No, but education regarding nutrition and perhaps limiting the amount available for junk food would be some good steps to take.

I agree.  It would be nice to have rules about what you can spend the money on to make sure the individual is making healthy choices.
 
2013-05-29 09:51:08 AM  

karmaceutical: This guy would support food stamps if they at least made the recipients pray to Jesus, or maybe let a group of "social workers" preach to them for a while first.


can we just insert a wand and save some time?
 
2013-05-29 09:51:16 AM  

serial_crusher: My problem with food stamps is that it gives poor folks (many of whom have become poor through bad decision making skills) too much discretion over what they spend it on.  You can spend your entire handout on Snickers bars if you want to, and some people do.

I'd rather see it treated like WIC, where you get a list of specific stuff your kid needs (gallon of milk, box of cereal, x amount of vegetables, carton of eggs, package of diapers, etc) then you hand your WIC list to the cashier and the government reimburses the store for whatever the cost was.  People who don't buy all the shiat on the list (because they think their kids won't eat real food) are a definite problem, but at least that way they neglect their kids without wasting tax money.


So were you born with a developmental disability, or did you suffer a traumatic brain injury to become this way?  I have to assume that you suffered a major brain injury to be this stupid.  Oh wait, I forgot, one example, that probably never happened and you pulled out of your butt, must be proof that a system is broken, thanks for your glorious insight...
 
2013-05-29 09:51:23 AM  
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Big Baby Jesus says get that gubbmint money y'all!
 
2013-05-29 09:51:34 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Why do you care?

Why do I care that people who most likely have children are spending funds meant to provide supplemental nutritional assistance on junk food instead of items that would give their children proper nutrition?
Gee, I don't know. Why would that bother me?


I'm curious to, why does it matter to you. Are they hurting you?  If I have $500 a month for foodstamps and decide to spend $400 of it on real food and $100 on "junk" food yet you only see the junk food purchase how can you be outraged?  That's the issue with most people.  You only see one small sliver of situation yet you jump all over it like that's how it is.
 
2013-05-29 09:51:37 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Why do I care that people who most likely have children are spending funds meant to provide supplemental nutritional assistance on junk food instead of items that would give their children proper nutrition?


It helps to remember that calories are cheap and nutrition is not. And that isn't the fault of those who rely on the small amount of money that SNAP provides them.
 
2013-05-29 09:51:54 AM  

Krymson Tyde: I think the food stamp program is a great thing, I just feel the funds should be spent on more nutritional items.


If and only if we ban you from buying candy, red bull, and "other junk" with your credit cards. After all, those are subsidized with federal regulations, we should have a say in how you spend your money.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2013-05-29 09:51:56 AM  
WaitWaitWaitWait. A religious individual used his/her personal spiritual book to shiat on someone else in the name of god-of-choice?

Shocked, I tell you. I'm just shocked. This seems hard to fathom. I think I'm going to need to sit down for a minute to recover from this unique situation.
 
2013-05-29 09:51:58 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Why do I care that people who most likely have children are spending funds meant to provide supplemental nutritional assistance on junk food instead of items that would give their children proper nutrition?
Gee, I don't know. Why would that bother me?


Yes, why?
 
2013-05-29 09:52:33 AM  

Krymson Tyde: I once worked in a convenience store and rarely witnessed EBT being used for milk, bread, etc. but often times saw it used for Red Bull, candy, and other junk.


Confirmation Bias isn't just a river in Egypt.
 
2013-05-29 09:53:33 AM  

heap: karmaceutical: This guy would support food stamps if they at least made the recipients pray to Jesus, or maybe let a group of "social workers" preach to them for a while first.

can we just insert a wand and save some time?


Does the wand insertion take place at a safe, clean, certified place of worship?
 
2013-05-29 09:53:44 AM  

Krymson Tyde: I once worked in a convenience store and rarely witnessed EBT being used for milk, bread, etc. but often times saw it used for Red Bull, candy, and other junk.

I think the food stamp program is a great thing, I just feel the funds should be spent on more nutritional items.


IIRC, in stores where the POS records all the items in a purchase (and not just the price of each), the EBT checks all items against the allowed/prohibited list and only allows EBT funds to be used against allowed items.

Now, a lot of smaller stores don't have that integration, so I'm not calling bullshiat on your story. (If you had said you worked at Target or Safeway, I absolutely would be calling bullshiat.) However, I would support a Federal or state program to require an integrated POS for every merchant who accepts EBT.

Note also: back in my callow youth Target cashiering days, I had plenty of people swipe EBT for the eligible stuff, and then pay for the soda and chips off a debit card.
 
2013-05-29 09:53:46 AM  
If God loved them, they wouldn't be poor.
 
2013-05-29 09:53:53 AM  

TNel: Krymson Tyde: I once worked in a convenience store and rarely witnessed EBT being used for milk, bread, etc. but often times saw it used for Red Bull, candy, and other junk.

I think the food stamp program is a great thing, I just feel the funds should be spent on more nutritional items.

I'm sure people were buying real food, but your stereotyped mind made it so that what stuck out to you is when people spent them on "junk".  It's like when you buy a certain kind of car before you purchase it you never see them on the road but as soon as you are driving one you notice them everywhere.

We give them money that can only be spent on food because people would flip their shiat if you up the cash assistance part of welfare, then you complain that they are not buying the food you think they should be buying.  Who cares it's their money they can buy what they like.  I love how you complain about junk food but I bet you also complain that they are buying steaks with their food stamps.

Yes it is public funds but so are police and teacher salaries, so do you feel you can tell them how they can spend their money?


Seems I've been stereotyped as well.

Look, this observation is coming from someone who has also received food stamps so I'm not some right winger who thinks we should eliminate funding because some might me gaming the system. Not am I a liberal who thinks I know how everyone should live. I'm coming at this from the personal experience of knowing how hard it is to make ends meet when your income is near or below the poverty level.
 
2013-05-29 09:54:15 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Why do I care that people who most likely have children are spending funds meant to provide supplemental nutritional assistance on junk food instead of items that would give their children proper nutrition?
Gee, I don't know. Why would that bother me?


Food stamps, EBT, etc are not there for supplemental nutritional assistance. SNAP (supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program) is there for that purpose. SNAP is not EBT, EBT is not SNAP. EBT is cash
 
2013-05-29 09:54:31 AM  

karmaceutical: heap: karmaceutical: This guy would support food stamps if they at least made the recipients pray to Jesus, or maybe let a group of "social workers" preach to them for a while first.

can we just insert a wand and save some time?

Does the wand insertion take place at a safe, clean, certified place of worship?


i think as long as a preacher blesses the wand, you're OK.
 
2013-05-29 09:54:52 AM  
TNel:Yes it is public funds but so are police and teacher salaries, so do you feel you can tell them how they can spend their money?

...Really?  I'm pretty sure Police and Teachers provide a benefit to society whereas SNAP/WIC, while absolutely necessary, does not.
 
2013-05-29 09:55:12 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Krymson Tyde: I think the food stamp program is a great thing, I just feel the funds should be spent on more nutritional items.

If and only if we ban you from buying candy, red bull, and "other junk" with your credit cards. After all, those are subsidized with federal regulations, we should have a say in how you spend your money.


Sure, that's a totally legitimate comparison,
 
2013-05-29 09:56:26 AM  

Krymson Tyde: I once worked in a convenience store and rarely witnessed EBT being used for milk, bread, etc. but often times saw it used for Red Bull, candy, and other junk.


yes, because a convenience store is usually a cornucopia of healthy, nutritious products.
 
2013-05-29 09:57:09 AM  

Headso: I also don't see any reason why you can't limit people's choice with what to buy with food stamps to make sure they are buying real food, but the huge companies that own the elected officials are the ones making money off selling high profit margin junk to people on food stamps. So even though you have something both sides of the aisle can agree on it will never get changed.


Imagine how much worse it would be if those same huge companies were able to lobby their paid for congressmen to have only their products added to the list of "acceptable foods" for purchase using food stamps. If pizza can be reclassified as a vegetable, they sure as hell will get "Processed Corn Sweet Puffs With Extra Benzine" on the approved list.
 
2013-05-29 09:57:25 AM  

Farce-Side: I like the people who trade their EBT for 75 cents on the dollar and then buy drugs.  Those people are my favorite people.


Well, seems easy enough to hear you tell it. Stop hatin and make some money. Oh, let me guess. You don't do it because you're too moral.


/Never understood why the people who think welfare is so sweet don't just get on welfare.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-05-29 09:57:33 AM  
serial_crusher:

Do what a couple times?  The Snickers bars?  No, nobody learns anything from that.  They get fat and blame their thyroid problem.
Or they complain that real food is too expensive, when actually what they mean is 6000 calories of real food a day is more expensive than 6000 calories a day of junk food.  If they ate a reasonable amount their food stamps would cover real food.


Nonsense.  Candy bars cost more than rice and beans and things like that.
 
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