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(USA Today)   Having sex with 8 partners is the equivalent of drinking a whole classroom's spit, there a new STD out there that's worse than AIDS, all life begins at conception, and other "facts" conservatives teach in high school sex ed (using taxpayer dollars)   (usatoday.com) divider line 77
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2013-05-28 03:21:22 PM  
15 votes:
That's great.  Lie to teenagers with relatively easily discredited information.  That way, they'll have an automatic distrust for everything else you say in the future.
2013-05-28 03:01:23 PM  
8 votes:
Lie to your kids.
They'll respect you for it later.
2013-05-28 03:25:29 PM  
6 votes:
It's not like teenagers have an easy way to check these things. If only there was a website they could go to and type in a question and get answers.
2013-05-28 02:55:49 PM  
6 votes:
I'm not sure I understand the spit thing. Are we talking about drinking spit equivalent to an entire classroom (lets call that 25 people) spitting once into a bucket? Or are we talking about somehow draining all the spit from each person in the classroom, collecting that into some sort of spit trough, and drinking that? That's two entirely different prospects, right there, and I'd need to know which one I'm considering (as well as what the 8 people I'd be having sex with look like). There's always tradeoffs; sometimes they're worth it and sometimes they're not.
2013-05-28 08:29:51 PM  
5 votes:
Oh, fark me. I feel dumber for having listened to that crap.

I tell my kids the truth: Sex feels good, but it hurts like hell emotionally if you do it when you are too young, or with the wrong person. There are risks, that can be mitigated, but never completely. If you decide to have sex with someone, please think it through first and make sure it's what YOU want, not the other person.

I also have taught my older daughters about different birth control options, how to use a condom, how NOT to use a condom (ie: storing it in a way that would lead to leaks or damage, not using teeth if you put it on with your mouth, making sure it is on the correct way before unrolling it, getting a new one if you touched the wrong side to the penis, etc.). I keep a fresh supply of condoms in the house, in the downstairs bathroom right beside the mudroom, where they could stop and get one and we'd never even know they came inside. I've explained that if they want to become sexually active, we need to go to the doctor and get a check-up and get birth control pills even if they use condoms.

I've taught them that mistakes happen, and you don't have to be ashamed of making one. And that love rarely lasts forever, but that is okay.

For my troubles, I have a 17 year old who came to me and openly talked to me about birth control, who ran into my room a few months ago to tell me she just had sex for the first time, and asked me questions about it, who is on birth control and is very open with me about what is going on. She had a break-up and the first thing she said after she finished sobbing was "I'm so glad I didn't think I was going to be with him forever".

My fourteen year old has been very open about her crushes and that she thinks she might prefer girls.

And my 12 year old son asks me questions about girls and biology and it not embarrassed to walk to the grocery store and pick up tampax for his sisters, so long as they give him $5 or drive him somewhere or some other consideration for his troubles.

The absolute bullshiat in this recording is just astounding. Kids don't respond to that. When I was a kid, we had some similarly craptacularly bad Xstian presentation about how our vaginas were like duct tape, and once you stuck the tape to something, it would hurt very badly to pull it off, and if you kept sticking it and ripping it off, it would eventually not stick anymore and we'd never find a man to love us. Oh, and AIDS is killing everybody and if you kiss you will get herpes and that if your breasts are fondled too much it can cause you to never feel your nipples again. (I only wish I was kidding). The abortion stuff was similar to this.

Thanks to that lovely presentation, and my mother's general inability to talk about anything like sex without making it a big production, I was very tight lipped about things and never asked questions. I just went to the health department after school and got birth control pills and condoms, and was regularly experiencing happy naked time with a wide assortment of male partners by the time I was 15.

I don't know why they can't just tell the kids that slutting it up is not the best idea, but if they decide it's worth the (accurately described) risk, here's how to go about it so you don't have to have the uncomfortable conversation with your doctor about why it burns when you pee.

Hell, show the kids pictures of a herpes outbreak, tell them the truth: that somewhere around 24% of people carry it and you never know who because many aren't symptomatic and it can be transmitted regardless of whether or not you see it/know about it, and that condoms suck at preventing it, but hey, here is what to look for before you allow that genitalia near yours or your mouth. I have a feeling that simple truth would be far more effective in getting them to think about what they are doing before hand than this complete and utter bullshiat.
2013-05-28 05:04:28 PM  
4 votes:

Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.


A human life at conception is equivalent to the yeast cell you kill in baking bread in terms of organization and consciousness, and may actually not implant in the uterus, which means a yeast cell is actually more viable. Why do you kill all those poor innocent yeast cells by eating bread?
2013-05-28 04:20:47 PM  
4 votes:
www.gannett-cdn.com

Kinda weird for a transgender lady to be the conservative spokesperson for abstinence only.
2013-05-28 03:48:59 PM  
4 votes:
Subby... It wasn't "sex ed" class... it wasn't "taxpayer" dollars... and there as an autoplay video.

I'm going to rape you.
2013-05-28 05:21:26 PM  
3 votes:

Rapmaster2000: hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach withe tax dollars?

ALL white epeople are racists

The only people that say this are white racists.  They are also the only people who talk about white guilt as  the only reason for a white person to not be racist.


I'm reminded of people who get really, really upset about what constitutes a hate crime.

Seriously, if you want to be subtle while you're trying to find out if an individual is racist, just bring up the concept of a hate crime. A normal, run-of-the-mill, decent person may question whether assigning minority groups protected status under the law is wise, or they may see it as a way to combat decades (if not centuries) of discrimination. But it's not really a big deal for them. Philosophical differences aside, it's just not a huge factor in their world.

A racist, though? They'll have very strong, very angry opinions about hate crimes, and they will become flat-out irate, almost instantly.

This has worked 100% of the time for me, with zero false positives.
2013-05-28 05:13:49 PM  
3 votes:

theorellior: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A human life at conception is equivalent to the yeast cell you kill in baking bread in terms of organization and consciousness, and may actually not implant in the uterus, which means a yeast cell is actually more viable. Why do you kill all those poor innocent yeast cells by eating bread?


The Sanctity of LifeTM only applies to American babbys. Any other living thing (especially abortion doctors) are fair game.
2013-05-28 04:54:20 PM  
3 votes:
FTFA: Metro Nashville School Board member Michael Hayes, whose district includes Hillsboro, wrote in an email that excerpts of the presentation surprised him....A state law passed last year doesn't define who's qualified to talk to students about sexual health.

A state law passed last year doesn't define who's qualified to talk to students about sexual health.


A state law passed last year doesn't define who's qualified to talk to students about sexual health.

A state law passed last year doesn't define who's qualified to talk to students about sexual health.

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2013-05-28 04:38:04 PM  
3 votes:
Should we look at "facts" liberals teach withe tax dollars?

ALL white epeople are racists
2013-05-28 04:22:47 PM  
3 votes:
"And the nonprofit - with its strong Christian, Republican and anti-abortion ties - is on a list of approved presenters in Nashville-Davidson County's public schools."

Standard procedure for conservatards; we've seen this in science classes as well, all the way up to the state college level; cut funding, then 'restore' the missing classes through well-heeled private rightwing religious 'volunteer' groups and 'professors' on loan from wingnut think tanks.

Thanks, Christians, for helping make America dumber.
2013-05-28 02:58:38 PM  
3 votes:
Look, if you don't like spit sex, that's fine, I'm not going to judge you, but don't you judge me because I get off having strangers spit into my mouth while jerking me off.
vpc
2013-05-28 05:34:19 PM  
2 votes:
Actually, the most disturbing bit?  FTA:

Metro Nashville School Board member Michael Hayes, whose district includes Hillsboro, wrote in an email that excerpts of the presentation surprised him. "Fortunately, I believe the Hillsboro High School kids are smart enough to separate fact from fiction and that some of the opinions and scare tactics used in the presentation they will know are incorrect," he wrote.

In other words, "It doesn't matter if we teach them incorrect information because they'll magically know what the correct information is."

REALLY? Do we not understand the basic tenet of education, learning about things we don't already know?
2013-05-28 05:12:01 PM  
2 votes:

Tomahawk513: bubo_sibiricus: gweilo8888: Less knocked-up Republicans means less (sic) baby Republicans

You seem to think that this kind of pretend-sex-ed leads to fewer baby Republicans.  It does no such thing.  It's been proven time and again that the so-called sex-ed of the "bible belt" states is far less effective than, well, actual sex-ed.  This leads to more little Republicans.

Because shortly after the pretend-sex-ed, the kids find out that sex is fun, and "all that protection stuff doesn't work so we just won't bother with it."

Didn't Texas  JUST prove this theory by eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood?

You can either:
1) Allow/Fund abortion and birth control
2) Fund comprehensive sex-ed
3) Gratuitously fund welfare and education

Pick at least 1.


No, lots and lots of poor starving people!  We need more humans!  Who then die.  So we can feel good about ourselves!  Your socialism just wants people to live happy lives, and Jesus hates that.
2013-05-28 05:04:26 PM  
2 votes:

Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.


So sperm and unfertilized eggs aren't alive? Hunh. I never knew that. Thanks for the info.
2013-05-28 04:59:26 PM  
2 votes:
Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.
2013-05-28 04:55:29 PM  
2 votes:

gweilo8888: Less knocked-up Republicans means less (sic) baby Republicans


You seem to think that this kind of pretend-sex-ed leads to fewer baby Republicans.  It does no such thing.  It's been proven time and again that the so-called sex-ed of the "bible belt" states is far less effective than, well, actual sex-ed.  This leads to more little Republicans.

Because shortly after the pretend-sex-ed, the kids find out that sex is fun, and "all that protection stuff doesn't work so we just won't bother with it."
2013-05-28 04:45:13 PM  
2 votes:

gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.


Unfortunately, that doesn't happen. What does happen is some young man will meet a nice girl and because they both haven't had any sex with be so frustrated and horny but also afraid of being "evil" in the eyes of God will run off the first chance they get and marry. Are they compatible? Can they live together or even tolerate the other person for more than 2 hours? Who the hell cares... because finally sex! Then they find out that sex is actually pretty enjoyable but because they either don't know about contraceptives or think using them is also "evil" they will quickly get children. In fact, they will start screwing so much that they find that they have more children then they can afford. But that won't stop them from having unprotected sex, and justifying it by "building Gods army". The whole time living off government support. If they are a minority that support will also be considered "evil" but if they are white will be considered "getting their fair share back from the thieving gov'ment". Eventually reality sets in, the wife can't stand the child that she married, the man can't stand the girl that he wed. And it all ends very sadly except for the lucky few.

/but they will continue to vote Republican, without a doubt
2013-05-28 04:40:48 PM  
2 votes:

bigmike485: "I'm not a biology major"... well now that's the only thing in her speech that makes sense.


And that was the point that EVERYONE should have collectively walked out and called CNN. After cockpunching her.
2013-05-28 04:34:17 PM  
2 votes:
I'm thinking in maybe 70, 80 years the Coasts are going to have to recolonize the center of the continent, rounding up the degenerate bands of hooting savages living there into reservations for their own good.
2013-05-28 04:33:22 PM  
2 votes:
if fetuses and babies are the same thing, does that mean i'm nine months older than i thought i was?!

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2013-05-28 04:19:27 PM  
2 votes:
OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.
2013-05-28 04:19:05 PM  
2 votes:
Meh.  As far as disinformation taught in classrooms goes, none of that is even top ten.

Off to go get a smallpox blanket, which is difficult for me because white people have grossly inferior spatial intelligence and, not being Oriental, I lack excellent organizational skills.  Luckily I can afford it because the Laffer Curve grants me great wealth.  Which I already had because of white privilege.
2013-05-29 04:18:31 PM  
1 votes:

RedVentrue: demaL-demaL-yeH: RedVentrue: A child outside the womb is still dependaent on others for life, but is considered alive. How do we know which "clump of cells" is viable and which is not? Was it viable before it's scraped off the uterine wall, or in case of later term abortions, cut up and removed from the womb in pieces? Guess we will never know now, will we? There is nothing that can be done about miscarraiges, but that is no reason to support abortions.

Your illogical rant with its false premises doesn't merit a response, so I corrected your spelling instead.

Sigh. Go ahead and keep killing the unborn. It's your Karma.


False premises are false.

Is a uterus part of your OEM, John?
No? Are women chattel?
(Hint: The correct answer to that question is always "No!")
Is a woman's medical decision - since you aren't the woman directly affected - any of your fuggin bidness?
(Hint: It isn't, you ignoranus.)

/That was deliberate: It's your farkie.
2013-05-29 03:41:20 PM  
1 votes:

RedVentrue: A child outside the womb is still dependa

ent on others for life, but is considered alive. How do we know which "clump of cells" is viable and which is not? Was it viable before it's scraped off the uterine wall, or in case of later term abortions, cut up and removed from the womb in pieces? Guess we will never know now, will we? There is nothing that can be done about miscarraiges, but that is no reason to support abortions.

Your illogical rant with its false premises doesn't merit a response, so I corrected your spelling instead.
2013-05-29 01:40:04 PM  
1 votes:

lennavan: [www.gannett-cdn.com image 214x283]

Kinda weird for a transgender lady to be the conservative spokesperson for abstinence only.


I had to check the filename for that image, I could have swore it was a gif with her head swaying back and forth slightly.

/Well, back to sniffing glue.
2013-05-29 04:55:35 AM  
1 votes:

RedVentrue: Bandito King: RedVentrue: Bandito King: RedVentrue: Jim_Callahan: NutWrench: Life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous, ongoing process.

Well, the criteria for being a living organism inculde capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction.

The capacity for reproduction doesn't occur until fairly late in fetal development.  While they're part of the larger ongoing process of capital-L life, an early fetus is not, itself, technically a living organism.

If it can gain the ability through it's normal course of development it does.

If you are an adult, then you are not currently growing, and therefore not alive.

That's the reason I refuse to eat pecans. They will eventually develop into trees, therefore they are already trees. You can't eat trees, that would be crazy.

I eat trees. Heat of palm is yummy. I also use them to smoke other food.

I don't eat human fetus, though.

And I don't abort nuts. I just wish nuts wouldn't be so concerned about abortion.

I guess it's alright for a Mom to drown her kids in the bathtub then. There's no difference between that and abortion, except for some more time has passed.


There is a ton of difference. I suspect those differences have been pointed out to you in the past and you have ignored them because they don't fit your narrative.

Here is one more attempt to educate you, just in case your troll bowl was getting low:

An embryo is a multicellular diploid eukaryote in its earliest stage of development.
In organisms that reproduce sexually, once a sperm fertilizes an egg cell, the result is a cell called the zygote that has all the DNA of two parents.
A fetus is a developing mammal or other viviparous vertebrate, after the embryonic stage and before birth.

So in other words: they are discrete stages of development, which is why we have different names for them, and not just, "the same".

In animals, the development of the zygote into an embryo proceeds through specific recognizable stages of blastula, gastrula, and organogenesis. Organogenesis, in case you're wondering, is the generation of organs, which do not exist prior to that point. No heart, no lungs, no brain. Souls don't exist, and a collection of undifferentiated cells is not a human being. I am not the least bit sorry if that hurts your feelings, btw, superstition is the enemy of mankind and churches of all denominations should be bulldozed.

For the record, "you" are the processes that are ongoing in your body to maintain consciousness. Without the impulses and chemical processes involved in the functioning of your brain, you don't exist. A body is just a shell; hardware for the constant, on-going, collection of processes (a cross between ram and firmware, if we continue the metaphor) that make up your (thankfully) unique mind.

Say what you want about aborting a non-viable fetus, you might be able to make some good points, although I doubt it. But you simply cannot argue with any credence that every stage of development is the same thing "but less so". I could be a stunt-man some day, it doesn't make me half a stunt-man right now.
2013-05-29 03:24:07 AM  
1 votes:
hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach and othe rthings they do with tax dollars?

ALL white people are racists

Not even going near this one... I'll just say that if everyone but you is being bitten by mosquitoes, you'll never notice that they exist. Too many white people, especially white males, float blissfully through life without even noticing the racism that exists in this society. Maybe it's because they're not being bitten by the mosquitoes. College and college courses are supposed to be designed to expose their students to ideas they may not have considered before, and this is one of them. That's how it's supposed to work.

professor compelled students in her graphic design class to create artwork opposing firearms on campus and opposing pro-gun legislation currently pending before the Texas state legislature.

No guns on college campuses? I really don't see a problem with this. In my 3rd year graphic design course we created anti-pollution campaigns. Should we have been pro-pollution instead? College is a place for learning, not hunting. Keep your phallic substitutes off campus.

College Professor forced to students to sign pledge to vote for Obama
College fires professor who forced students to sign pledge to vote for Obama

That's right, other libby libs fired the professor. It's what we do.
 

Democrats to force students to reveal their sexuality
http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4764">Bill pending in Oregon would ask students at public universities to reveal sexuality
The purpose of the legislation, according to Steven Leider, a graduate student at Oregon State, who worked with lawmakers on the bill, is to help universities more easily cater to their Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender (LGBT) populations.

That's right, the info was for demographic purposes and voluntary, so that the university would know how many counselors, facilities, and programs it might need for LGBT students. This type of information has been asked from students about their race or ethnic group, their sex, their family finances and income, their religion, their home states, and more for decades. It's how the school figures out who needs what, and how much. Not only that, it's a bill pending before the Oregon legislature. 

You lying sack of sh*t.
2013-05-29 12:11:08 AM  
1 votes:

MrHelpful: gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.

Great point.  I so much prefer liberals' "if it feels good, do it" message.  That's so much more inspiring and non judgemental and easy.


Because that is what everyone in the thread is saying.

God forbid we teach them about it and how to do it safely without making up crap that invalidates everything else they hear not from their friends.

Teenagers are going to have sex. Whether you want to believe it or not, the vast majority of people will have sex before marriage and most will have sex while in high school. And there is nothing you can do to stop this.
2013-05-28 09:55:35 PM  
1 votes:

redslippers: tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: redslippers: I should clarify: I'm Jewish, and our people seem to do just fine at not being stupid while religious,*

/I personally am far from religious, but it doesn't scare me to know that rabbis vote.
//On the other hand, it scares the crap out of me to know that evangelicals exist and further their species, much less vote.

*[Insert mandatory legalese disclaimer here.]

C'mon, we have our share of asshat fundies, too.

Wait a minute now, you're jewish as well as have kidlings?.
/Learning so much from this thread.
// Oh and as a non-denominational bisexual pagan heathen I have no problem with this.
///Although Bacchus is sorta cool ; )

Yes. I am Jewish, with five kidlets (or as I refer to them, minions). My youngest if four, my oldest if 17. My husband is Lutheran. I was raised in south Georgia, which isn't much fun when you are a Jew. Some of the honest to goodness questions I got growing up: "Jewish, is that kinda like Cath'lic?" "Why don't you wear a cross? They're so purdy" and my personal favorites (it's a tie) "I know you're Jew-ish, but where do you go to church?" and "But Jesus WAS a Jew. How can you not love Jesus? He was one of your people!".

/defying sterotypes: it's my day job.


Wait, you're telling me I could have gotten minions, hmm, oh well to late now. And well as someone that grew up in Baptist land I feel your pain, granted was raised Methodist where all you had to do is show up on Sunday, don't confuse that with Free Methodist that believe in the laying on of hands thing. Mother was raised Church of Christ where she learned everyone not one of them would go to hell, well thankfully she gave that up.

Truthfully I believe Jesus would of been more likely to say we are all children of god so let's be nice to one another. And if you read the Gnostic stuff that's basically what he said.
/Anyway no problem with any religious beliefs till they get passed into legislation.
2013-05-28 08:40:00 PM  
1 votes:
Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

At the risk of feeding the troll, I'd like to point out that the medical definition of pregnancy is implantation of a fertilized egg. Approximately 50% of fertilized eggs do not implant, so they're clearly not that important valuable to nature/god/whoever you believe is making the decisions.
2013-05-28 08:38:51 PM  
1 votes:

dywed88: Well, there is a difference in what she said is probably technically correct (as married couples probably have fewer partners on average), it is just taken out of context. But the overall effect is the same misleading BS.


"Technically correct" is the best kind of correct.

It is also key to effective disinformation.
2013-05-28 08:28:21 PM  
1 votes:

RexTalionis: FLMountainMan: Meh.  As far as disinformation taught in classrooms goes, none of that is even top ten.

Off to go get a smallpox blanket, which is difficult for me because white people have grossly inferior spatial intelligence and, not being Oriental, I lack excellent organizational skills.  Luckily I can afford it because the Laffer Curve grants me great wealth.  Which I already had because of white privilege.

1) The smallpox incident happened and is a part of American history and is not disinformation.

2) I don't know of any school that teaches that white people are mentally inferior to Asians

3) Regarding the Laffer curve and the white privilege thing, that's just dumb.


1) That's great, and you will almost never see it mentioned in public school pretty much ever.


 Which was the point.

 Public school hopefully teaches you literacy (sometimes?), basic math, and the knowledge that there are things like history, science, art, and music in existence out there. Anything else is gravy and you should consider yourself lucky.

 And if you're trying to make informative fact based decisions on your public school history book.... well about that.

/everyone realizes that much of what they learn in public school is crap.
//but if you were taught how to read, you'll be able to make up for it as an adult.
2013-05-28 07:42:35 PM  
1 votes:
I had sex ed in '69 and Mrs. Ball, the teacher said to us boys:
"Think of a woman as a whole, not as a hole"
2013-05-28 07:26:09 PM  
1 votes:

vudukungfu: vudukungfu: Dr.Demento

http://www.drdemento.com/


OMG thanx, but it want be the same as listening late at night on my clock radio.
2013-05-28 07:14:19 PM  
1 votes:

sparkeyjames: Why do conservatives have to lie about every farking thing?


Yes.  Conservatives are only concerned with outward appearances.  Underlying truth is irrelevant to conservatives.

Anecdotally, Texas has the highest number of cosmetic surgeries in the nation.  BAM!
2013-05-28 06:53:17 PM  
1 votes:
Why do conservatives have to lie about every farking thing?
2013-05-28 06:50:29 PM  
1 votes:

gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.


Except they have sex anyway and don't use birth control. Which is why the red states are the ones on welfare.
2013-05-28 06:41:49 PM  
1 votes:

RexTalionis: demarke: How often does an appendix sprout arms legs and a brain and pop out after nine months?

/That would be awesome if it were possible

It is possible. With a little help, of course, but it is possible. You remove the nucleus of an egg and take the deprogrammed egg (now lacking a nucleus and the nuclear DNA) and insert the nucleus from a cell removed from an appendix. The deprogrammed egg will take the appendix cell nucleus and reprogram it to repurpose the appendix cell nucleus into an egg cell nucleus. Give it a little shock and now it will start to divide.

This is how you create clones. This process is called a somatic cell nuclear transfer.


Excuse me sir, but you appear to be suggesting that the concept of 'life' is in fact a complex one with multiple different interpretations that do not lend themselves to a tortured ideological viewpoint that despises change.

OK I never thought of it like that...
2013-05-28 06:19:26 PM  
1 votes:

demarke: How often does an appendix sprout arms legs and a brain and pop out after nine months?

/That would be awesome if it were possible


It is possible. With a little help, of course, but it is possible. You remove the nucleus of an egg and take the deprogrammed egg (now lacking a nucleus and the nuclear DNA) and insert the nucleus from a cell removed from an appendix. The deprogrammed egg will take the appendix cell nucleus and reprogram it to repurpose the appendix cell nucleus into an egg cell nucleus. Give it a little shock and now it will start to divide.

This is how you create clones. This process is called a somatic cell nuclear transfer.
2013-05-28 06:12:28 PM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: fredklein: Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.

True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.

That makes it human. That does not make it a Human.
A skin cell, given the right conditions (say, a cloning lab), can become a fetus, and a child. But that does not mean every skin cell IS a child.

Correct. My appendix is human but nobody cries MURDER! if I have it removed.


How often does an appendix sprout arms legs and a brain and pop out after nine months?

/That would be awesome if it were possible
2013-05-28 06:09:03 PM  
1 votes:
(taxpayer dollars) says subby

Global Warming?
Electric cars?
Endless war?
Every bit of madness called 'education'?

... c'mon subs. 'Conservatives' have so far to climb up the tree of forbidden taxpayer fruit to warrant the "AND THEY'RE DOING IT WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS meme I'll be on my third reincarnation before 'conservatives' get to the break-even point with ProgLib's fleecing of America.
2013-05-28 06:06:50 PM  
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not_an_indigo: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

You must be new here.


Yes, Mija, first and foremost this is an atheist, pro-choice, anti-gun, anti-patriotism (from a recent forum, apparently because that word is too Republican), anti-tobacco but pro-marijuana, and pro-expansion of government website only.  Also, it is important to remember that all Southerners are dumb and racist but no one else is and George Bush was the dumbest president ever and also the smartest (in an evil way) president ever for being able to fool all of Congress and a multitude of other nations into supporting actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

No other viewpoints will be tolerated or debated because other viewpoints are inherently intolerant.
2013-05-28 05:47:53 PM  
1 votes:
Life does begin at conception, though.
2013-05-28 05:45:40 PM  
1 votes:
I should just hang myself now instead of getting old and being under the care of these jibbering cretins in a nursing home, shouldn't I?

Idiocracy was supposed to take place after 500 years. IRL, I'm giving it 50.
2013-05-28 05:41:43 PM  
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Smeggy Smurf: Citrate1007: Keeping your children misinformed about reproduction does more harm than good.

Very true.  As a (marginally and convincingly) responsible parent I also enjoy greatly the embarrassment that talking about sex and sexuality causes the kids.  One of the great joys of parenting is to daily make the teenagers blush 7 shades of red.  By doing so you'll expose them to every sexual topic that's in your vernacular.  Over time and hopefully before they start having sex they'll have learned as much as they need to know before they do something stupid.


Like explain to them if they go off and get some chick pregnant, you are going to kick them out of the house and it is entirely up to them to pay for and care for the child. If they decide to have the abortion, they still get kicked out of the house. Making them understand that making big-boy decisions also means them living like big-boys is a pretty good deterrent. Then you have my cousin who does not have a job, continues to have kids in a not-so-great relationship with the mother, and his parents take care of the lot of them. That will really show him!
2013-05-28 05:36:39 PM  
1 votes:

rtaylor92: my very conservative mom once gave my fiancee and I a pamphlet on the dangers of premarital sex and living together before marriage. It actually said that "studies show that unmarried couples living together are more likely to get AIDS"

My mom taught 7th grade science at a public school for 35 years.

/getting a kick


That probably is true actually. Less committed relationships mean increased chances of multiple partners which would increase your risk of AIDs. It isn't because they are living together unmarried, it is because they are in a non-committed relationship and enjoy the benefits of living together, without the hard part of a relationship. Not to say cheating does not happen in supposedly monogamous marriages however.
2013-05-28 05:31:51 PM  
1 votes:
So let me get this straight subby,

You believe that teenagers should have sex with eight people, not wear condoms, and that life doesnt begin when cells form together and start creating a human being? And Conservatives are the root cause of all evil and should be banished to the seven hells for all eternity?

It must be fun to be an idiot who walks around blaming a fictional group of people for all of the worlds problems and never taking the time to see if what you are saying is screwed up in the first place.
2013-05-28 05:20:45 PM  
1 votes:

Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.

True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.


That makes it human. That does not make it a Human.
A skin cell, given the right conditions (say, a cloning lab), can become a fetus, and a child. But that does not mean every skin cell IS a child.
2013-05-28 05:18:23 PM  
1 votes:

hasty ambush: College Professor forced to students to sign pledge to vote for Obama


I find it interesting that the college fired this professor, which was the right thing to do.

Do you agree that the Sumner County School Board should fire Beth Cox and never hire Joi Wasill, or her nonprofit Decisions, Choices and Options to give sex-ed presentations to students ever again?
2013-05-28 05:12:39 PM  
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Wasill said God spoke to her through one of his radio show guests, urging her to promote the pro-life beliefs she'd always held.

Nothing crazy about that, nosiree!

/fark, these people frighten me
2013-05-28 05:09:29 PM  
1 votes:

SithLord: Well I guess Decisions, Choices and Options will soon be on the IRS hit list.


Wow, you're especially ignorant about a situation you are posting about.
2013-05-28 05:07:54 PM  
1 votes:

Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.


A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.
2013-05-28 05:07:09 PM  
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gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.


Is THAT what you think this does?  LOWER pregnancy rates?
2013-05-28 05:02:50 PM  
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bubo_sibiricus: gweilo8888: Less knocked-up Republicans means less (sic) baby Republicans

You seem to think that this kind of pretend-sex-ed leads to fewer baby Republicans.  It does no such thing.  It's been proven time and again that the so-called sex-ed of the "bible belt" states is far less effective than, well, actual sex-ed.  This leads to more little Republicans.

Because shortly after the pretend-sex-ed, the kids find out that sex is fun, and "all that protection stuff doesn't work so we just won't bother with it."


And once the babies are here the bootstrappy kid parents are forced to turn to their extended family for help with the squalling brats, who will of course turn them away because they're not their problem, thus adding to their argument that something needs to be done about all these welfare moms!
2013-05-28 05:02:12 PM  
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Girl Pants: Isn't saliva fairly clean and filled with anti-microbial agents? So wouldn't a bunch of spit be relatively harmless (although disgusting)?


A cup containing an entire class room's spit is practically guaranteed to be infected w/ oral herp
2013-05-28 04:53:54 PM  
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Pray 4 Mojo: Subby... It wasn't "sex ed" class... it wasn't "taxpayer" dollars... and there as an autoplay video.

I'm going to rape you.


That is  one form of sex that Christian conservatives approve of.
2013-05-28 04:52:21 PM  
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chairmenmeow47: if fetuses and babies are the same thing, does that mean i'm nine months older than i thought i was?!

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no, because you're "birth date" is the date you were "born" not the date you became a living being, which was months earlier.
2013-05-28 04:52:20 PM  
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hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach and othe rthings they do with tax dollars?


Which of those things will actually endanger the health of teenagers through lies, misinformation and ideology? Oh, none? I see.

False equivalency, you can haz.
2013-05-28 04:52:12 PM  
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PunGent: "And the nonprofit - with its strong Christian, Republican and anti-abortion ties - is on a list of approved presenters in Nashville-Davidson County's public schools."

Standard procedure for conservatards; we've seen this in science classes as well, all the way up to the state college level; cut funding, then 'restore' the missing classes through well-heeled private rightwing religious 'volunteer' groups and 'professors' on loan from wingnut think tanks.

Thanks, Christians, for helping make America dumber.


lh5.googleusercontent.com
2013-05-28 04:50:53 PM  
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2013-05-28 04:45:01 PM  
1 votes:

hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach withe tax dollars?

ALL white epeople are racists


The only people that say this are white racists.  They are also the only people who talk about white guilt as  the only reason for a white person to not be racist.
2013-05-28 04:43:34 PM  
1 votes:
Isn't saliva fairly clean and filled with anti-microbial agents? So wouldn't a bunch of spit be relatively harmless (although disgusting)?
2013-05-28 04:40:55 PM  
1 votes:

hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach withe tax dollars?

ALL white epeople are racists


Your link gave me eye herpes.
2013-05-28 04:39:39 PM  
1 votes:

chairmenmeow47: if fetuses and babies are the same thing, does that mean i'm nine months older than i thought i was?!

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In some cultures... yes.
2013-05-28 04:34:12 PM  
1 votes:
I'd heard he was looking for work in the US, but really?


i677.photobucket.com
2013-05-28 04:32:02 PM  
1 votes:

PsyLord: enricofermi: That website will give you AIDS

Are you positive?


25.media.tumblr.com
2013-05-28 04:31:02 PM  
1 votes:
My current GF is a squirter, so "a classroom's worth of spit" is about right.
2013-05-28 04:27:03 PM  
1 votes:
"I'm not a biology major"... well now that's the only thing in her speech that makes sense.
2013-05-28 04:25:09 PM  
1 votes:
Everything you need to know in 3 minutes in 30 seconds to last 3 minutes and 30 seconds.

frugivoremag.com
2013-05-28 04:20:57 PM  
1 votes:

Rev.K: Look, if you don't like spit sex, that's fine, I'm not going to judge you, but don't you judge me because I get off having strangers spit into my mouth while jerking me off.


That's why I only do virgins, amirite?
2013-05-28 04:15:39 PM  
1 votes:
Having sex with eight people is all fun until the O-ring failure. Then it's a sport.
2013-05-28 04:06:08 PM  
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labman: It's not like teenagers have an easy way to check these things. If only there was a website they could go to and type in a question and get answers.


Oh HELL no. The last time I wanted answers on how babbys were formed, I asked Yahoo answers, and I never heard the end of it.
2013-05-28 04:05:17 PM  
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RodneyToady: That's great.  Lie to teenagers with relatively easily discredited information.  That way, they'll have an automatic distrust for everything else you say in the future.


Works great for D.A.R.E.

/No it doesn't
2013-05-28 03:53:04 PM  
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Pocket Ninja: I'm not sure I understand the spit thing. Are we talking about drinking spit equivalent to an entire classroom (lets call that 25 people) spitting once into a bucket? Or are we talking about somehow draining all the spit from each person in the classroom, collecting that into some sort of spit trough, and drinking that? That's two entirely different prospects, right there, and I'd need to know which one I'm considering (as well as what the 8 people I'd be having sex with look like). There's always tradeoffs; sometimes they're worth it and sometimes they're not.


Well, all I know is that there is porn of it somewhere.
 
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