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(USA Today)   Having sex with 8 partners is the equivalent of drinking a whole classroom's spit, there a new STD out there that's worse than AIDS, all life begins at conception, and other "facts" conservatives teach in high school sex ed (using taxpayer dollars)   (usatoday.com) divider line 433
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2013-05-28 05:07:03 PM  

bubo_sibiricus: gweilo8888: Less knocked-up Republicans means less (sic) baby Republicans

You seem to think that this kind of pretend-sex-ed leads to fewer baby Republicans.  It does no such thing.  It's been proven time and again that the so-called sex-ed of the "bible belt" states is far less effective than, well, actual sex-ed.  This leads to more little Republicans.

Because shortly after the pretend-sex-ed, the kids find out that sex is fun, and "all that protection stuff doesn't work so we just won't bother with it."


Didn't Texas  JUST prove this theory by eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood?

You can either:
1) Allow/Fund abortion and birth control
2) Fund comprehensive sex-ed
3) Gratuitously fund welfare and education

Pick at least 1.
 
2013-05-28 05:07:09 PM  

gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.


Is THAT what you think this does?  LOWER pregnancy rates?
 
2013-05-28 05:07:48 PM  

lennavan: hasty ambush: I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE SOME MORE ATTENTION HERE PLEASE

Oh, okay.  Hi there, what are you up to?


What sociopaths are always up to - getting entertainment by being raging douchebags.
 
2013-05-28 05:07:54 PM  

Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.


A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.
 
2013-05-28 05:08:38 PM  

theorellior: not_an_indigo: You must be new here.

Nope, long-lived drive-by troll. Been around for years.


Accounts created 2006 and 2007.

Wow, one whole year longer. Color me impressed.
 
2013-05-28 05:09:29 PM  

SithLord: Well I guess Decisions, Choices and Options will soon be on the IRS hit list.


Wow, you're especially ignorant about a situation you are posting about.
 
2013-05-28 05:10:55 PM  

Tomahawk513: bubo_sibiricus: gweilo8888: Less knocked-up Republicans means less (sic) baby Republicans

You seem to think that this kind of pretend-sex-ed leads to fewer baby Republicans.  It does no such thing.  It's been proven time and again that the so-called sex-ed of the "bible belt" states is far less effective than, well, actual sex-ed.  This leads to more little Republicans.

Because shortly after the pretend-sex-ed, the kids find out that sex is fun, and "all that protection stuff doesn't work so we just won't bother with it."

Didn't Texas  JUST prove this theory by eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood?

You can either:
1) Allow/Fund abortion and birth control
2) Fund comprehensive sex-ed
3) Gratuitously fund welfare and education

Pick at least 1.


Yep, it came out to about 30k unwanted pregnancies due to limited accesses to some form of affordable birth control.  How many came to term vs aborted and/or miscarried due to substandard/non-existent neonatal care I don't know
 
2013-05-28 05:11:03 PM  

scalpod: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

So sperm and unfertilized eggs aren't alive? Hunh. I never knew that. Thanks for the info.


Just remember every sperm is sacred ; )
 
2013-05-28 05:11:21 PM  

RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.


True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.
 
2013-05-28 05:12:01 PM  

Tomahawk513: bubo_sibiricus: gweilo8888: Less knocked-up Republicans means less (sic) baby Republicans

You seem to think that this kind of pretend-sex-ed leads to fewer baby Republicans.  It does no such thing.  It's been proven time and again that the so-called sex-ed of the "bible belt" states is far less effective than, well, actual sex-ed.  This leads to more little Republicans.

Because shortly after the pretend-sex-ed, the kids find out that sex is fun, and "all that protection stuff doesn't work so we just won't bother with it."

Didn't Texas  JUST prove this theory by eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood?

You can either:
1) Allow/Fund abortion and birth control
2) Fund comprehensive sex-ed
3) Gratuitously fund welfare and education

Pick at least 1.


No, lots and lots of poor starving people!  We need more humans!  Who then die.  So we can feel good about ourselves!  Your socialism just wants people to live happy lives, and Jesus hates that.
 
2013-05-28 05:12:39 PM  
Wasill said God spoke to her through one of his radio show guests, urging her to promote the pro-life beliefs she'd always held.

Nothing crazy about that, nosiree!

/fark, these people frighten me
 
2013-05-28 05:13:13 PM  
I hear if you have sex in a hot tub, you can't get pregnant if you're already pregnant.
 
2013-05-28 05:13:49 PM  

theorellior: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A human life at conception is equivalent to the yeast cell you kill in baking bread in terms of organization and consciousness, and may actually not implant in the uterus, which means a yeast cell is actually more viable. Why do you kill all those poor innocent yeast cells by eating bread?


The Sanctity of LifeTM only applies to American babbys. Any other living thing (especially abortion doctors) are fair game.
 
2013-05-28 05:14:12 PM  
The thing is, once your kids realize that you lied to them about half of the stuff you told them about sex... they assume the other half was lies too. Effectively, you devalue your own efforts by lying to your kids. Same goes for drugs... when they figure out that you were lying, that mj has lower toxicity than potatoes... then they no longer believe any of the other stuff you told them about drugs, even if it was accurate.
 
2013-05-28 05:16:02 PM  

Sticky Hands: It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.


Actually, with some creative genetics, you can actually make it into a pig.
 
2013-05-28 05:16:55 PM  

Valiente: Having sex with eight people is all fun until the O-ring failure. Then it's a sport.


Agree:
spacekate.com
 
2013-05-28 05:17:26 PM  

kliq: I hear if you have sex in a hot tub, you can't get pregnant if you're already pregnant.


Also, you can't get pregnant the first time you have sex and every other time after that
 
2013-05-28 05:17:44 PM  

RexTalionis: Sticky Hands: It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.

Actually, with some creative genetics, you can actually make it into a pig.


And if you're sick enough you could make it into a BLT.
 
2013-05-28 05:18:07 PM  

Sticky Hands: True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.


There's that if again, especially because 30% of fertilized eggs do not actually implant.
 
2013-05-28 05:18:23 PM  

hasty ambush: College Professor forced to students to sign pledge to vote for Obama


I find it interesting that the college fired this professor, which was the right thing to do.

Do you agree that the Sumner County School Board should fire Beth Cox and never hire Joi Wasill, or her nonprofit Decisions, Choices and Options to give sex-ed presentations to students ever again?
 
2013-05-28 05:19:01 PM  

hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach and othe rthings they do with tax dollars?

ALL white people are racists
professor compelled students in her graphic design class to create artwork opposing firearms on campus and opposing pro-gun legislation currently pending before the Texas state legislature. The professor then used the artwork students created online to publicize an anti-gun petition entitled


College Professor forced to students to sign pledge to vote for Obama

Democrats to force students to reveal their sexuality


WTF threadjack. Asshole.
 
2013-05-28 05:20:45 PM  

Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.

True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.


That makes it human. That does not make it a Human.
A skin cell, given the right conditions (say, a cloning lab), can become a fetus, and a child. But that does not mean every skin cell IS a child.
 
2013-05-28 05:21:26 PM  

Rapmaster2000: hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach withe tax dollars?

ALL white epeople are racists

The only people that say this are white racists.  They are also the only people who talk about white guilt as  the only reason for a white person to not be racist.


I'm reminded of people who get really, really upset about what constitutes a hate crime.

Seriously, if you want to be subtle while you're trying to find out if an individual is racist, just bring up the concept of a hate crime. A normal, run-of-the-mill, decent person may question whether assigning minority groups protected status under the law is wise, or they may see it as a way to combat decades (if not centuries) of discrimination. But it's not really a big deal for them. Philosophical differences aside, it's just not a huge factor in their world.

A racist, though? They'll have very strong, very angry opinions about hate crimes, and they will become flat-out irate, almost instantly.

This has worked 100% of the time for me, with zero false positives.
 
2013-05-28 05:22:50 PM  

Mega Steve: kliq: I hear if you have sex in a hot tub, you can't get pregnant if you're already pregnant.

Also, you can't get pregnant the first time you have sex and every other time after that


I hear that if you have sex while you're already pregnant, you can get pregnant-pregnant, which is where your babby comes out pre-pregnant.

yodawg.jpg

/or maybe Stephon from SNL?
//pregnant
 
2013-05-28 05:22:56 PM  

Maud Dib: hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach and othe rthings they do with tax dollars?

ALL white people are racists
professor compelled students in her graphic design class to create artwork opposing firearms on campus and opposing pro-gun legislation currently pending before the Texas state legislature. The professor then used the artwork students created online to publicize an anti-gun petition entitled


College Professor forced to students to sign pledge to vote for Obama

Democrats to force students to reveal their sexuality

WTF threadjack. Asshole.


Not a threadjack, more of just a non sequitur response from a conservative regarding a debate that he/she has already lost.
 
2013-05-28 05:28:35 PM  
my very conservative mom once gave my fiancee and I a pamphlet on the dangers of premarital sex and living together before marriage. It actually said that "studies show that unmarried couples living together are more likely to get AIDS"

My mom taught 7th grade science at a public school for 35 years.

/getting a kick
 
2013-05-28 05:30:10 PM  

Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.

True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.


If you cure it and smoke it, it can become a delicious BLT.
 
2013-05-28 05:31:20 PM  
Uh... most STDs can't be transmitted by saliva at all, so having sex with one person without them being tested recently is equivalent to infinity mouthfuls of spit, plus one... and less hydrating.

//Leave it to right-wing religious idiots to manage to get a divide by zero error in a farking sex ed class.  I wouldn't have even thought that was possible.
 
2013-05-28 05:31:38 PM  

bubo_sibiricus: You seem to think that this kind of pretend-sex-ed leads to fewer baby Republicans.  It does no such thing.  It's been proven time and again that the so-called sex-ed of the "bible belt" states is far less effective than, well, actual sex-ed.  This leads to more little Republicans.

Because shortly after the pretend-sex-ed, the kids find out that sex is fun, and "all that protection stuff doesn't work so we just won't bother with it."


You seem to be unable to distinguish between humor and derp. Time to calibrate your radar?
 
2013-05-28 05:31:51 PM  
So let me get this straight subby,

You believe that teenagers should have sex with eight people, not wear condoms, and that life doesnt begin when cells form together and start creating a human being? And Conservatives are the root cause of all evil and should be banished to the seven hells for all eternity?

It must be fun to be an idiot who walks around blaming a fictional group of people for all of the worlds problems and never taking the time to see if what you are saying is screwed up in the first place.
 
2013-05-28 05:32:10 PM  
I wonder if there are even any real Sex Ed programs in schools in general at this point. It almost seems to me like they have all been replaced by insane abstinence only programs. The only sex-ed program I can think of that is comprehensive, etc. is the OWL one the UU's put on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Whole_Lives
 
2013-05-28 05:32:10 PM  

theorellior: scottydoesntknow: Works great for D.A.R.E.

Waitaminute here. Hold the phone. Are you telling me that if you take LSD you don't think you're an orange, and that if someone touches you you'll turn into orange juice?


Dude, I took LSD once. I thought my fridge turned into a puma, so I grabbed a spear and hunted the farker down across my neighborhood...
 
vpc
2013-05-28 05:34:19 PM  
Actually, the most disturbing bit?  FTA:

Metro Nashville School Board member Michael Hayes, whose district includes Hillsboro, wrote in an email that excerpts of the presentation surprised him. "Fortunately, I believe the Hillsboro High School kids are smart enough to separate fact from fiction and that some of the opinions and scare tactics used in the presentation they will know are incorrect," he wrote.

In other words, "It doesn't matter if we teach them incorrect information because they'll magically know what the correct information is."

REALLY? Do we not understand the basic tenet of education, learning about things we don't already know?
 
2013-05-28 05:35:14 PM  
From an apologist's comments in the Tennessean article:

The article combined two distinctly different comments into one when it states that sleeping with 8 partners is equivalent to drinking a whole classrooms spit. The presenter actually states that sleeping with 8 partners is the same as sleeping with 255, and later uses spitting in a cup as an example of sharing fluids and spreading diease.

Because that's MUCH more accurate.
 
2013-05-28 05:36:39 PM  

rtaylor92: my very conservative mom once gave my fiancee and I a pamphlet on the dangers of premarital sex and living together before marriage. It actually said that "studies show that unmarried couples living together are more likely to get AIDS"

My mom taught 7th grade science at a public school for 35 years.

/getting a kick


That probably is true actually. Less committed relationships mean increased chances of multiple partners which would increase your risk of AIDs. It isn't because they are living together unmarried, it is because they are in a non-committed relationship and enjoy the benefits of living together, without the hard part of a relationship. Not to say cheating does not happen in supposedly monogamous marriages however.
 
2013-05-28 05:36:56 PM  

Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.


Hahaha.

4/10
 
2013-05-28 05:37:12 PM  

Citrate1007: Keeping your children misinformed about reproduction does more harm than good.


Very true.  As a (marginally and convincingly) responsible parent I also enjoy greatly the embarrassment that talking about sex and sexuality causes the kids.  One of the great joys of parenting is to daily make the teenagers blush 7 shades of red.  By doing so you'll expose them to every sexual topic that's in your vernacular.  Over time and hopefully before they start having sex they'll have learned as much as they need to know before they do something stupid.
 
2013-05-28 05:37:33 PM  

Bonobo62: Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.

True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.

If you cure it and smoke it, it can become a delicious BLT.


Baby, lettuce, and tomato?
 
2013-05-28 05:38:55 PM  

MagicMissile: It must be fun to be an idiot who walks around blaming a fictional group of people for all of the worlds problems and never taking the time to see if what you are saying is screwed up in the first place.


To be good at this troll business it's best to roll out of bed while the thread is still hot. 180 replies in? Strictly minor leagues. Up your game, son.
 
2013-05-28 05:39:41 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

Hahaha.

4/10


with all those bites?

6.5/10
 
2013-05-28 05:39:45 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: One of the great joys of parenting is to daily make the teenagers blush 7 shades of red. By doing so you'll expose them to every sexual topic that's in your vernacular.


What shade of red does "Cleveland steamer" warrant?
 
2013-05-28 05:39:54 PM  

Koodz: From an apologist's comments in the Tennessean article:

The article combined two distinctly different comments into one when it states that sleeping with 8 partners is equivalent to drinking a whole classrooms spit. The presenter actually states that sleeping with 8 partners is the same as sleeping with 255, and later uses spitting in a cup as an example of sharing fluids and spreading diease.

Because that's MUCH more accurate.


Using that math well wow I slept with a lot of people, but no more than 4 others at the same time so I'm good right?
 
2013-05-28 05:41:23 PM  

theorellior: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A human life at conception is equivalent to the yeast cell you kill in baking bread in terms of organization and consciousness, and may actually not implant in the uterus, which means a yeast cell is actually more viable. Why do you kill all those poor innocent yeast cells by eating bread?


Because it's delicious.

We're still talking about abortions, right? 'Cause bread is gross.
 
2013-05-28 05:41:43 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Citrate1007: Keeping your children misinformed about reproduction does more harm than good.

Very true.  As a (marginally and convincingly) responsible parent I also enjoy greatly the embarrassment that talking about sex and sexuality causes the kids.  One of the great joys of parenting is to daily make the teenagers blush 7 shades of red.  By doing so you'll expose them to every sexual topic that's in your vernacular.  Over time and hopefully before they start having sex they'll have learned as much as they need to know before they do something stupid.


Like explain to them if they go off and get some chick pregnant, you are going to kick them out of the house and it is entirely up to them to pay for and care for the child. If they decide to have the abortion, they still get kicked out of the house. Making them understand that making big-boy decisions also means them living like big-boys is a pretty good deterrent. Then you have my cousin who does not have a job, continues to have kids in a not-so-great relationship with the mother, and his parents take care of the lot of them. That will really show him!
 
2013-05-28 05:44:02 PM  
So a bunch of folks that are made for each other.  Go on ahead and screw each other silly.  There are plenty of farkers willing to pay to raise your child :)
 
2013-05-28 05:44:26 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: scalpod: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

So sperm and unfertilized eggs aren't alive? Hunh. I never knew that. Thanks for the info.

Just remember every sperm is sacred ; )


*blinks*
Wait.
What?
 
2013-05-28 05:44:32 PM  

fredklein: Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.

True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.

That makes it human. That does not make it a Human.
A skin cell, given the right conditions (say, a cloning lab), can become a fetus, and a child. But that does not mean every skin cell IS a child.


Correct. My appendix is human but nobody cries MURDER! if I have it removed.
 
2013-05-28 05:44:39 PM  
It is not about what age you start having sex, it is about the nature of your sexual habits and those of your partners. I started have sexual contact at 11 and full intercourse by 12 I have never impregnated anyone and I have never had an STD, because I chose good partners and used birth control. I have turned down a lot more sexual encounters, because I wasn't comfortable with the partner's history leaving me with a total of 16 partners out of over 70 possible in my 40 years.
 
2013-05-28 05:45:31 PM  
hasty ambush:


whalen.files.wordpress.com
/hot like a foot tapper's brow
 
2013-05-28 05:45:40 PM  
I should just hang myself now instead of getting old and being under the care of these jibbering cretins in a nursing home, shouldn't I?

Idiocracy was supposed to take place after 500 years. IRL, I'm giving it 50.
 
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