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(USA Today)   Having sex with 8 partners is the equivalent of drinking a whole classroom's spit, there a new STD out there that's worse than AIDS, all life begins at conception, and other "facts" conservatives teach in high school sex ed (using taxpayer dollars)   (usatoday.com) divider line 433
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2013-05-28 02:55:49 PM
I'm not sure I understand the spit thing. Are we talking about drinking spit equivalent to an entire classroom (lets call that 25 people) spitting once into a bucket? Or are we talking about somehow draining all the spit from each person in the classroom, collecting that into some sort of spit trough, and drinking that? That's two entirely different prospects, right there, and I'd need to know which one I'm considering (as well as what the 8 people I'd be having sex with look like). There's always tradeoffs; sometimes they're worth it and sometimes they're not.
 
2013-05-28 02:58:38 PM
Look, if you don't like spit sex, that's fine, I'm not going to judge you, but don't you judge me because I get off having strangers spit into my mouth while jerking me off.
 
2013-05-28 03:01:23 PM
Lie to your kids.
They'll respect you for it later.
 
2013-05-28 03:03:34 PM

Rev.K: Look, if you don't like spit sex, that's fine, I'm not going to judge you, but don't you judge me because I get off having strangers spit into my mouth while jerking me off.


Such a romantic.
 
2013-05-28 03:21:22 PM
That's great.  Lie to teenagers with relatively easily discredited information.  That way, they'll have an automatic distrust for everything else you say in the future.
 
2013-05-28 03:25:29 PM
It's not like teenagers have an easy way to check these things. If only there was a website they could go to and type in a question and get answers.
 
2013-05-28 03:40:57 PM

Rev.K: Look, if you don't like spit sex, that's fine, I'm not going to judge you, but don't you judge me because I get off having strangers spit into my mouth while jerking me off.


I don't know. I have a cold, so my spit is pretty phlegmy right now.

That just gave you a raging boner, didn't it?
 
2013-05-28 03:48:38 PM
Sounds like they're doing sex wrong.

Sadly, I cannot say for certain.
 
2013-05-28 03:48:59 PM
Subby... It wasn't "sex ed" class... it wasn't "taxpayer" dollars... and there as an autoplay video.

I'm going to rape you.
 
2013-05-28 03:53:04 PM

Pocket Ninja: I'm not sure I understand the spit thing. Are we talking about drinking spit equivalent to an entire classroom (lets call that 25 people) spitting once into a bucket? Or are we talking about somehow draining all the spit from each person in the classroom, collecting that into some sort of spit trough, and drinking that? That's two entirely different prospects, right there, and I'd need to know which one I'm considering (as well as what the 8 people I'd be having sex with look like). There's always tradeoffs; sometimes they're worth it and sometimes they're not.


Well, all I know is that there is porn of it somewhere.
 
2013-05-28 04:05:17 PM

RodneyToady: That's great.  Lie to teenagers with relatively easily discredited information.  That way, they'll have an automatic distrust for everything else you say in the future.


Works great for D.A.R.E.

/No it doesn't
 
2013-05-28 04:06:08 PM

labman: It's not like teenagers have an easy way to check these things. If only there was a website they could go to and type in a question and get answers.


Oh HELL no. The last time I wanted answers on how babbys were formed, I asked Yahoo answers, and I never heard the end of it.
 
2013-05-28 04:11:20 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: Subby... It wasn't "sex ed" class... it wasn't "taxpayer" dollars... and there as an autoplay video.

I'm going to rape you.


Well, taxpayer dollars did provide the lights, room and PA they used; so subby wasn't completely inaccurate.

For an hour, Joi Wasill, the founder of nonprofit Decisions, Choices and Options, and Beth Cox of the Sumner County School Board provided a captive audience of high school freshmen and sophomores their take on STDs, abortion and adoption.

It wasn't completely accurate, a Vanderbilt University doctor said. But neither Tennessee state law nor the class curriculum prohibits what was said.

And the nonprofit - with its strong Christian, Republican and anti-abortion ties - is on a list of approved presenters in Nashville-Davidson County's public schools.
 
2013-05-28 04:15:39 PM
Having sex with eight people is all fun until the O-ring failure. Then it's a sport.
 
2013-05-28 04:16:45 PM
Is that 8 partners consecutively or concurrently?
 
2013-05-28 04:16:52 PM

scottydoesntknow: Works great for D.A.R.E.


Waitaminute here. Hold the phone. Are you telling me that if you take LSD you don't think you're an orange, and that if someone touches you you'll turn into orange juice?
 
2013-05-28 04:17:26 PM
Hey if Im gonna go anal in a girl I'm gonna at least spit in the thing to lube it up. I'm a gentleman like that not some kinda damn savage.

Im suprised they didnt say anything about interacial sex.
 
2013-05-28 04:18:16 PM
When they say a whole classroom's spit, do they mean in a row?
 
2013-05-28 04:18:23 PM
It's like "Dr Nick's Guide to Safe Sex".  "Hi everybody!  Watch out for that SuperAids!"
 
2013-05-28 04:18:56 PM
What kind of sex with 8 partners?
 
2013-05-28 04:19:05 PM
Meh.  As far as disinformation taught in classrooms goes, none of that is even top ten.

Off to go get a smallpox blanket, which is difficult for me because white people have grossly inferior spatial intelligence and, not being Oriental, I lack excellent organizational skills.  Luckily I can afford it because the Laffer Curve grants me great wealth.  Which I already had because of white privilege.
 
2013-05-28 04:19:08 PM

gnosis301: When they say a whole classroom's spit, do they mean in a row?


They mean ATM.
 
2013-05-28 04:19:27 PM
OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.
 
2013-05-28 04:19:46 PM
ts3.mm.bing.net
 
2013-05-28 04:19:51 PM
Id like to give Beth my cox.

\actually.. no thats a lie
 
2013-05-28 04:20:07 PM

digitalrain: Is that 8 partners consecutively or concurrently?


Sorta curious about that myself, hmmmm.
 
2013-05-28 04:20:07 PM
I think this is the first time I've seen Pocket Ninja post something without having 47 people praise it for its scintillating genius.

/maybe jealous
 
2013-05-28 04:20:47 PM
www.gannett-cdn.com

Kinda weird for a transgender lady to be the conservative spokesperson for abstinence only.
 
2013-05-28 04:20:57 PM

Rev.K: Look, if you don't like spit sex, that's fine, I'm not going to judge you, but don't you judge me because I get off having strangers spit into my mouth while jerking me off.


That's why I only do virgins, amirite?
 
2013-05-28 04:21:01 PM
Beth Cox

HA!  Cox!!

/got nuthin'
 
2013-05-28 04:21:02 PM
At once or in series?
 
2013-05-28 04:21:35 PM

FLMountainMan: Off to go get a smallpox blanket, which is difficult for me because white people have grossly inferior spatial intelligence and, not being Oriental, I lack excellent organizational skills.  Luckily I can afford it because the Laffer Curve grants me great wealth.  Which I already had because of white privilege.


We must've caught you in between rapes then.
 
2013-05-28 04:21:48 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: What kind of sex with 8 partners?


That costs, what, four million dollars?
 
2013-05-28 04:22:29 PM

dr_blasto: And the nonprofit - with its strong Christian, Republican and anti-abortion ties - is on a list of approved presenters in Nashville-Davidson County's public schools.


I gotta say, sometimes I wish I was an amoral sociopathic asshole, it would be easy to suck on the government teat by providing bullshiat "conservative" information to any number of dumbfark legislators and school board members across this great nation.

Remember, welfare checks are OKIFYAR.
 
2013-05-28 04:22:47 PM
"And the nonprofit - with its strong Christian, Republican and anti-abortion ties - is on a list of approved presenters in Nashville-Davidson County's public schools."

Standard procedure for conservatards; we've seen this in science classes as well, all the way up to the state college level; cut funding, then 'restore' the missing classes through well-heeled private rightwing religious 'volunteer' groups and 'professors' on loan from wingnut think tanks.

Thanks, Christians, for helping make America dumber.
 
2013-05-28 04:22:47 PM
I know of one STD worse than AIDS that i leared about in school...

(children.  they last forever and cost a fortune, and no matter how hard you try to get rid of them with two flushes and a plunger, they just keep pulling their head back out of the toilet and eating all my damn food)
 
2013-05-28 04:23:07 PM
Well I guess Decisions, Choices and Options will soon be on the IRS hit list.
 
Ehh
2013-05-28 04:23:23 PM
Everybody in my classroom got a date to the spit-swap orgy prom but me.
 
2013-05-28 04:23:49 PM

labman: It's not like teenagers have an easy way to check these things. If only there was a website they could go to and type in a question and get answers.


Yea but teenagers are going to try and look something up, one of the links will have drawings of a naked woman and the kid stalls on the boobies, quickly forgets what he was looking for and clicks over to metart for a fap...
 
2013-05-28 04:24:05 PM
uh oh.
 
2013-05-28 04:24:19 PM

Super Chronic: Random Anonymous Blackmail: What kind of sex with 8 partners?

That costs, what, four million dollars?


Sees what you did there...

i130.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-28 04:24:21 PM

lennavan: [www.gannett-cdn.com image 214x283]

Kinda weird for a transgender lady to be the conservative spokesperson for abstinence only.


Looks like a stunt-double for the Wayans Bros on White Chicks

glambergirlblog.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-05-28 04:24:42 PM
I'm guessing the conservative that wrote that probably snowballs alot when they have sex, so that might account for the "whole classroom" statement.
 
2013-05-28 04:24:54 PM
So, they're trying to tell teenagers sex is "icky" so they won't try it?

Good luck with that
 
2013-05-28 04:25:09 PM
Everything you need to know in 3 minutes in 30 seconds to last 3 minutes and 30 seconds.

frugivoremag.com
 
2013-05-28 04:25:13 PM
t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-28 04:25:30 PM

Pocket Ninja: I'm not sure I understand the spit thing. Are we talking about drinking spit equivalent to an entire classroom (lets call that 25 people) spitting once into a bucket? Or are we talking about somehow draining all the spit from each person in the classroom, collecting that into some sort of spit trough, and drinking that? That's two entirely different prospects, right there, and I'd need to know which one I'm considering (as well as what the 8 people I'd be having sex with look like). There's always tradeoffs; sometimes they're worth it and sometimes they're not.


the problem is that you are trying to make sense of whargarble.
 
2013-05-28 04:25:34 PM
It's bullshiat like this that makes me doubt man is really the smartest species on the planet, it's just that we happened to luck out. How our ancestors weren't originally killed off by saber tooth tigers, t-rex's and other predators amazes me
 
2013-05-28 04:26:25 PM
Given the prominence of St Peter in the christian religion and his very famous denial binge, it's a no-brainer that a conservative, christian group would come up with lots of crap like this. It's a major part of their religion.

Of course, they'd deny it.
 
2013-05-28 04:26:43 PM

digitalrain: Is that 8 partners consecutively or concurrently?


First one then the other.
 
2013-05-28 04:26:51 PM

Rev.K: Look, if you don't like spit sex, that's fine, I'm not going to judge you, but don't you judge me because I get off having strangers spit into my mouth while jerking me off.


Baby?
 
2013-05-28 04:27:03 PM
"I'm not a biology major"... well now that's the only thing in her speech that makes sense.
 
2013-05-28 04:27:05 PM
I heard that if you ride public transportation you're gonna get super-herpAIDs just from the seats!!
 
2013-05-28 04:27:14 PM

Rev.K: Look, if you don't like spit sex, that's fine, I'm not going to judge you, but don't you judge me because I get off having strangers spit into my mouth while jerking me off.


you disgust and fascinate me.
 
2013-05-28 04:27:23 PM
It's called the "Phlegmish Fountain", subby, and for some of us it's a beautiful thing.

/I feel gross now
 
2013-05-28 04:27:57 PM
That website will give you AIDS
 
2013-05-28 04:28:25 PM

lennavan: [www.gannett-cdn.com image 214x283]

Kinda weird for a transgender lady to be the conservative spokesperson for abstinence only

www.gannett-cdn.com

images.starpulse.com

William Sadler in a role that will surprise you...
 
2013-05-28 04:28:40 PM

RodneyToady: That's great.  Lie to teenagers with relatively easily discredited information.  That way, they'll have an automatic distrust for everything else you say in the future.


Only the ones that are somewhat coherent will learn to distrust pundits - the rest will become good conservatives.
/the system works
 
2013-05-28 04:28:42 PM

enricofermi: That website will give you AIDS


Are you positive?
 
2013-05-28 04:29:05 PM
What's worse than AIDS?
Hitler AIDS?
 
2013-05-28 04:29:57 PM
Do dogs spit?

/this thread has gone Aristocrats really quickly
 
2013-05-28 04:30:00 PM
"A whole classrooms spit"

Public, Private, Home?  it makes a difference,  Southern public schools have a higher number of students per classroom, private schools are often gender exclusive, home schooling is usually a much smaller number but frequently siblings.

furthermore only a small segment of every class would want to down everyone's spit.  it is age dependent, younger kids while willing to eat their own boogers would not be prone to drink opposite sex spit for fear of Kooties.   where as older kids would have their sexual orientation to think of, thus only bisexual kids would potentially be interested in both, and of course religious kids would be most interested in spit from kids at earlier grade levels.

What about tobacco?  Some states, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming both boys and girls chew Kodiak,  but in many SE states the girls only do Copenhagen.   It changes the spit dramatically!
 
2013-05-28 04:31:02 PM
My current GF is a squirter, so "a classroom's worth of spit" is about right.
 
2013-05-28 04:31:56 PM
8 partners?  Amateur.

/former manwhore
 
2013-05-28 04:32:02 PM

PsyLord: enricofermi: That website will give you AIDS

Are you positive?


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-28 04:32:16 PM

LlamaGirl: I heard that if you ride public transportation you're gonna get super-herpAIDs just from the seats!!


Well of course that's why public transportation is only for poor people.
 
2013-05-28 04:32:35 PM

vudukungfu: gnosis301: When they say a whole classroom's spit, do they mean in a row?

They mean ATM.


No, that's the equivalent of getting mayo in your cooch.

ATM is an interesting conundrum.  Should someone go ATM, wouldn't that qualify as sex AND spit therefore expotentially increasing the disgustingness of that one kid's spit by 4x (8 partners vs 32 students in a class)?
 
2013-05-28 04:32:36 PM

Dr._Michael_Hfuhruhurr: My current GF is a squirter, so "a classroom's worth of spit" is about right.


does it taste good?
 
2013-05-28 04:32:43 PM

The Pope of Manwich Village: frugivoremag.com


I know the fashions are dated, but Salt n Pepa were hawt.

/get off my lawn
 
2013-05-28 04:32:47 PM

Dr._Michael_Hfuhruhurr: My current GF is a squirter, so "a classroom's worth of spit" is about right.


What are the other 7 people doing?
 
2013-05-28 04:33:22 PM
if fetuses and babies are the same thing, does that mean i'm nine months older than i thought i was?!

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-28 04:33:37 PM
A cop told us in high school that marijuana kills more people in one year than alcohol and handguns combined.  Seems legit.
 
2013-05-28 04:34:12 PM
I'd heard he was looking for work in the US, but really?


i677.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-28 04:34:17 PM
I'm thinking in maybe 70, 80 years the Coasts are going to have to recolonize the center of the continent, rounding up the degenerate bands of hooting savages living there into reservations for their own good.
 
2013-05-28 04:34:36 PM

The Pope of Manwich Village: Everything you need to know in 3 minutes in 30 seconds to last 3 minutes and 30 seconds.

(Salt-n-Pepa Let's Talk About Sex image)


"Shoop" is the condensed course.
 
2013-05-28 04:34:45 PM

UrukHaiGuyz: Dr._Michael_Hfuhruhurr: My current GF is a squirter, so "a classroom's worth of spit" is about right.

What are the other 7 people doing?


Holding 1 cup?
 
2013-05-28 04:35:13 PM
If that were the case, the CDC would have launched multiple studies on me by now
 
2013-05-28 04:35:25 PM

Rapmaster2000: A cop told us in high school that marijuana kills more people in one year than alcohol and handguns combined.  Seems legit.


Did he say how many cops killed?
 
2013-05-28 04:35:25 PM
As someone who is currently having sex with three partners I'm getting a kick....


/Me, myself, and I
 
2013-05-28 04:35:32 PM
Hillsboro High is 2 miles from my house.

Go Burros!
 
2013-05-28 04:36:05 PM

kvinesknows: Dr._Michael_Hfuhruhurr: My current GF is a squirter, so "a classroom's worth of spit" is about right.

does it taste good?


'Taint bad.
 
2013-05-28 04:37:47 PM

I_C_Weener: Pocket Ninja: I'm not sure I understand the spit thing. Are we talking about drinking spit equivalent to an entire classroom (lets call that 25 people) spitting once into a bucket? Or are we talking about somehow draining all the spit from each person in the classroom, collecting that into some sort of spit trough, and drinking that? That's two entirely different prospects, right there, and I'd need to know which one I'm considering (as well as what the 8 people I'd be having sex with look like). There's always tradeoffs; sometimes they're worth it and sometimes they're not.

Well, all I know is that there is porn of it somewhere.


All I know is, in about 10 minuets and 25 seconds that "somewhere" is going to be my hard drive.
 
2013-05-28 04:37:51 PM

digitalrain: Is that 8 partners consecutively or concurrently?


Depends on the size of the men's room
 
2013-05-28 04:38:04 PM
Should we look at "facts" liberals teach withe tax dollars?

ALL white epeople are racists
 
2013-05-28 04:38:12 PM

digitalrain: Is that 8 partners consecutively or concurrently?


DVDA plus two in the mouth plus one in each hand?
 
2013-05-28 04:38:31 PM

PsyLord: Holding 1 cup?


www.whatevo.com
 
2013-05-28 04:39:39 PM

chairmenmeow47: if fetuses and babies are the same thing, does that mean i'm nine months older than i thought i was?!

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 250x186]


In some cultures... yes.
 
2013-05-28 04:39:53 PM
"Hillsboro, heavenly Hillsboro, the buckle on the Bible Belt!"
 
2013-05-28 04:40:04 PM

hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach withe tax dollars?

ALL white epeople are racists


We already know everyone acts like a human turd on the internet.
 
2013-05-28 04:40:38 PM

Serious Black: digitalrain: Is that 8 partners consecutively or concurrently?

DVDA plus two in the mouth plus one in each hand?


Rule 34.
 
2013-05-28 04:40:48 PM

bigmike485: "I'm not a biology major"... well now that's the only thing in her speech that makes sense.


And that was the point that EVERYONE should have collectively walked out and called CNN. After cockpunching her.
 
2013-05-28 04:40:55 PM

hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach withe tax dollars?

ALL white epeople are racists


Your link gave me eye herpes.
 
2013-05-28 04:42:10 PM

theorellior: PsyLord: Holding 1 cup?

[www.whatevo.com image 480x716]


Oh man, that's hilarious!  My cheeks hurt!
 
2013-05-28 04:42:15 PM

Serious Black: digitalrain: Is that 8 partners consecutively or concurrently?

DVDA plus two in the mouth plus one in each hand?


I think at that point you should just get a human size ball of silly putty, carve some holes into it, and have at
 
2013-05-28 04:42:37 PM

SovietCanuckistan: hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach withe tax dollars?

ALL white epeople are racists

Your link gave me eye herpes.


and now you have had eye sex with everyone who ever looked that that link before!
i bet you wish you had abstained eh?
 
2013-05-28 04:42:41 PM

hasty ambush: ALL white epeople are racists


Who gets the prize for false equivalency? That's right, YOU DO! Yay!
 
2013-05-28 04:42:45 PM

Rapmaster2000: A cop told us in high school that marijuana kills more people in one year than alcohol and handguns combined.  Seems legit.


Alcohol combined with hand guns are about the safest thing out there.  I just bought my 5 year old a Glock and a 5th of Jack for his birthday.
 
2013-05-28 04:43:15 PM

theorellior: I'm thinking in maybe 70, 80 years the Coasts are going to have to recolonize the center of the continent, rounding up the degenerate bands of hooting savages living there into reservations for their own good.


Why wait that long? Next Tuesday sounds good to me.
 
2013-05-28 04:43:34 PM
Isn't saliva fairly clean and filled with anti-microbial agents? So wouldn't a bunch of spit be relatively harmless (although disgusting)?
 
2013-05-28 04:44:18 PM

Tomahawk513: Oh man, that's hilarious! My cheeks hurt!


It's the dog's expression that gets me. Every. Freaking. Time.
 
2013-05-28 04:44:20 PM

hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach withe tax dollars?

ALL white epeople are racists


Uh...what is this shiat?  There's no context for any of this.  No indication that it was required.  Nothing.  And at a college?  Seriously, that's your evidence?

//Oh yeah, these are TOTALLY equal.
 
2013-05-28 04:44:34 PM

Girl Pants: Isn't saliva fairly clean and filled with anti-microbial agents? So wouldn't a bunch of spit be relatively harmless (although disgusting)?


In fact it would probably be good for your immune system.
 
2013-05-28 04:45:01 PM

hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach withe tax dollars?

ALL white epeople are racists


The only people that say this are white racists.  They are also the only people who talk about white guilt as  the only reason for a white person to not be racist.
 
2013-05-28 04:45:10 PM

FLMountainMan: Meh.  As far as disinformation taught in classrooms goes, none of that is even top ten.

Off to go get a smallpox blanket, which is difficult for me because white people have grossly inferior spatial intelligence and, not being Oriental, I lack excellent organizational skills.  Luckily I can afford it because the Laffer Curve grants me great wealth.  Which I already had because of white privilege.


1) The smallpox incident happened and is a part of American history and is not disinformation.

2) I don't know of any school that teaches that white people are mentally inferior to Asians

3) Regarding the Laffer curve and the white privilege thing, that's just dumb.
 
2013-05-28 04:45:13 PM

gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.


Unfortunately, that doesn't happen. What does happen is some young man will meet a nice girl and because they both haven't had any sex with be so frustrated and horny but also afraid of being "evil" in the eyes of God will run off the first chance they get and marry. Are they compatible? Can they live together or even tolerate the other person for more than 2 hours? Who the hell cares... because finally sex! Then they find out that sex is actually pretty enjoyable but because they either don't know about contraceptives or think using them is also "evil" they will quickly get children. In fact, they will start screwing so much that they find that they have more children then they can afford. But that won't stop them from having unprotected sex, and justifying it by "building Gods army". The whole time living off government support. If they are a minority that support will also be considered "evil" but if they are white will be considered "getting their fair share back from the thieving gov'ment". Eventually reality sets in, the wife can't stand the child that she married, the man can't stand the girl that he wed. And it all ends very sadly except for the lucky few.

/but they will continue to vote Republican, without a doubt
 
2013-05-28 04:45:23 PM
Good Gawd there is so much bullshiat here
 
2013-05-28 04:46:15 PM

vernonFL: Girl Pants: Isn't saliva fairly clean and filled with anti-microbial agents? So wouldn't a bunch of spit be relatively harmless (although disgusting)?

In fact it would probably be good for your immune system.


Sure, if it's from a healthy individual.  Otherwise that's a good way to spread the flu or a cold.  They don't discourage sharing drinks for nothing.
 
2013-05-28 04:46:21 PM

theorellior: false equivalency


Did you read the link?  You may need to take some remedial courses.  Do the reading comprehension ones.
 
2013-05-28 04:46:27 PM

The Southern Dandy: Rapmaster2000: A cop told us in high school that marijuana kills more people in one year than alcohol and handguns combined.  Seems legit.

Alcohol combined with hand guns are about the safest thing out there.  I just bought my 5 year old a Glock and a 5th of Jack for his birthday.


Coolest Dad Evar.
 
2013-05-28 04:46:28 PM
FTA: The presentation isn't helpful, said Dr. Mary Romano, assistant professor in Vanderbilt's Division of Adolescent Medicine. Its biggest problem is that it uses scare tactics

So this article proves Republicans are fractal.
 
2013-05-28 04:47:41 PM

Girl Pants: Isn't saliva fairly clean and filled with anti-microbial agents? So wouldn't a bunch of spit be relatively harmless (although disgusting)?


Saliva has anti-microbial agents effective against gram-negative bacteria only, if I remember MICRO 2424 correctly. But of course it can act as a transmitting substrate for viral, fungal or gram-positive loads. Plus backwash consistency is just nasty. That's why only littles can stand to drink Pedialyte.

/huh huh loads
 
2013-05-28 04:48:05 PM
Amazing.... This sounds exactly like what I was taught.  And similarly, I didn't believe a word of it.

I remember the sex ed class where they talked about STDs with shock tactics.  I just shut up, pretended like I believed it, filled in the form and moved on. Yay free 100%

It's a shame that people can't be honest with their Sex Ed teachers, because they know they will get lies or opinions....But lets face it.  The teachers were creepy as hell by design. I wouldn't want to be in a private situation with anyone who willingly becomes a sex ed teacher.

And heaven help this new generation who goes to the internet for "facts".  Still, probably better than the bullshiat that gets spread through the grapevine.
 
2013-05-28 04:48:21 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: Serious Black: digitalrain: Is that 8 partners consecutively or concurrently?

DVDA plus two in the mouth plus one in each hand?

I think at that point you should just get a human size ball of silly putty, carve some holes into it, and have at


img11.imageshack.us
 
2013-05-28 04:48:39 PM

Molavian: Did you read the link? You may need to take some remedial courses. Do the reading comprehension ones.


Yes, I read the link. Looked pretty basic for a "diversity" course. It didn't say anything about "all whites are racist", just that there's more racism around than people notice or even like to admit to. Especially white people.
 
2013-05-28 04:48:48 PM
mysticcat

Good Gawd there is so much bullshiat here

How does that differ from any other day?
 
2013-05-28 04:48:59 PM
Eight partners? How is this relevant to me and the rest of Fark?
 
2013-05-28 04:50:20 PM
And really I've seen some crazy shiat in the bedroom before and those people pulled out of it unscathed.

Hell I knew a woman who would go to a swing club, suck off whoever was there for like an hour, and then just go home. Last I remember, her mouth hasn't fallen out crypt keeper style.
 
2013-05-28 04:50:53 PM
 
2013-05-28 04:51:02 PM

Molavian: Did you read the link? You may need to take some remedial courses. Do the reading comprehension ones.


Also, to address the "false equivalency" part of the situation, a diversity course taken at a college or university is absolutely nothing like a sex-ed class based on lies, misinformation and ideology given to teenagers, which might actually endanger their health through promulgating lies, misinformation and ideological bullshiat.
 
2013-05-28 04:51:32 PM
If any over-aged teen girls wants some valuable sex education, meet me behind the dumpster down the street by the parking garage in 1 hour and 5 minutes.
 
2013-05-28 04:51:59 PM
Keeping your children misinformed about reproduction does more harm than good.
 
2013-05-28 04:52:12 PM

PunGent: "And the nonprofit - with its strong Christian, Republican and anti-abortion ties - is on a list of approved presenters in Nashville-Davidson County's public schools."

Standard procedure for conservatards; we've seen this in science classes as well, all the way up to the state college level; cut funding, then 'restore' the missing classes through well-heeled private rightwing religious 'volunteer' groups and 'professors' on loan from wingnut think tanks.

Thanks, Christians, for helping make America dumber.


lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-05-28 04:52:20 PM

hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach and othe rthings they do with tax dollars?


Which of those things will actually endanger the health of teenagers through lies, misinformation and ideology? Oh, none? I see.

False equivalency, you can haz.
 
2013-05-28 04:52:21 PM

chairmenmeow47: if fetuses and babies are the same thing, does that mean i'm nine months older than i thought i was?!

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 250x186]


no, because you're "birth date" is the date you were "born" not the date you became a living being, which was months earlier.
 
2013-05-28 04:52:33 PM

mike_d85: ATM is an interesting conundrum.  Should someone go ATM, wouldn't that qualify as sex AND spit therefore expotentially increasing the disgustingness of that one kid's spit by 4x (8 partners vs 32 students in a class)?


No math. These theotards are confused enough as it is.
 
2013-05-28 04:52:36 PM
hasty ambush: I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE SOME MORE ATTENTION HERE PLEASE

Oh, okay.  Hi there, what are you up to?
 
2013-05-28 04:52:43 PM
this isn't a very useful statement.  saliva is harmless.
 
2013-05-28 04:52:44 PM

hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach and othe rthings they do with tax dollars?

ALL white people are racists
professor compelled students in her graphic design class to create artwork opposing firearms on campus and opposing pro-gun legislation currently pending before the Texas state legislature. The professor then used the artwork students created online to publicize an anti-gun petition entitled


College Professor forced to students to sign pledge to vote for Obama

Democrats to force students to reveal their sexuality


WHAT PART OF EYE HERPES DID YOU NOT GET?
 
2013-05-28 04:53:00 PM

seniorgato: Amazing.... This sounds exactly like what I was taught.  And similarly, I didn't believe a word of it.

I remember the sex ed class where they talked about STDs with shock tactics.  I just shut up, pretended like I believed it, filled in the form and moved on. Yay free 100%

It's a shame that people can't be honest with their Sex Ed teachers, because they know they will get lies or opinions....But lets face it.  The teachers were creepy as hell by design. I wouldn't want to be in a private situation with anyone who willingly becomes a sex ed teacher.

And heaven help this new generation who goes to the internet for "facts".  Still, probably better than the bullshiat that gets spread through the grapevine.


Yeah, good old Catholic school here.  They hired someone similar to this, though pretty toned down.  Just the normal, "Pills don't protect against STDs. Condoms can break.  It's sinning!" stuff.  Come to think of it, it was almost entirely factual information (with a spin, but still) and not nearly as distorted as this.  So, one thumb up Catholic School.
 
2013-05-28 04:53:09 PM
>"Fortunately, I believe the Hillsboro High School kids are smart enough to separate fact from fiction and that some of the opinions and scare tactics used in the presentation they will know are incorrect," he wrote, but he would need to know more to comment further.

How's that method of combating misinformation working out in American Politics?
 
2013-05-28 04:53:25 PM

micah1701: no, because you're "birth date" is the date you were "born" not the date you became a living being, which was months earlier.


Which is why most legal definitions of age are based from conception date. Damn, lib-tards, you're pretty stupid.
 
2013-05-28 04:53:54 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: Subby... It wasn't "sex ed" class... it wasn't "taxpayer" dollars... and there as an autoplay video.

I'm going to rape you.


That is  one form of sex that Christian conservatives approve of.
 
2013-05-28 04:54:20 PM
FTFA: Metro Nashville School Board member Michael Hayes, whose district includes Hillsboro, wrote in an email that excerpts of the presentation surprised him....A state law passed last year doesn't define who's qualified to talk to students about sexual health.

A state law passed last year doesn't define who's qualified to talk to students about sexual health.


A state law passed last year doesn't define who's qualified to talk to students about sexual health.

A state law passed last year doesn't define who's qualified to talk to students about sexual health.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-28 04:55:29 PM

gweilo8888: Less knocked-up Republicans means less (sic) baby Republicans


You seem to think that this kind of pretend-sex-ed leads to fewer baby Republicans.  It does no such thing.  It's been proven time and again that the so-called sex-ed of the "bible belt" states is far less effective than, well, actual sex-ed.  This leads to more little Republicans.

Because shortly after the pretend-sex-ed, the kids find out that sex is fun, and "all that protection stuff doesn't work so we just won't bother with it."
 
2013-05-28 04:55:48 PM
"the equivalent of drinking a whole classroom's spit "

I only give about a tablespoon. But ladies you can keep trying if you like.
 
2013-05-28 04:56:03 PM

scottydoesntknow: lennavan: [www.gannett-cdn.com image 214x283]

Kinda weird for a transgender lady to be the conservative spokesperson for abstinence only.

Looks like a stunt-double for the Wayans Bros on White Chicks

[glambergirlblog.files.wordpress.com image 430x323]


The one on the left looks like Martin Short.
I just noticed...
 
2013-05-28 04:59:02 PM

gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.


Looks like some political party didn't think its cunning plan all the way through?

GOOD
 
2013-05-28 04:59:26 PM
Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.
 
2013-05-28 05:00:49 PM

skinink: It's bullshiat like this that makes me doubt man is really the smartest species on the planet, it's just that we happened to luck out. How our ancestors weren't originally killed off by saber tooth tigers, t-rex's and other predators amazes me


Well, last I heard the problem with the Neanderthals is that they were just too spread out to learn the necessary communication skills that permitted h. sapiens the ability to share info.
 
2013-05-28 05:02:12 PM

Girl Pants: Isn't saliva fairly clean and filled with anti-microbial agents? So wouldn't a bunch of spit be relatively harmless (although disgusting)?


A cup containing an entire class room's spit is practically guaranteed to be infected w/ oral herp
 
2013-05-28 05:02:50 PM

bubo_sibiricus: gweilo8888: Less knocked-up Republicans means less (sic) baby Republicans

You seem to think that this kind of pretend-sex-ed leads to fewer baby Republicans.  It does no such thing.  It's been proven time and again that the so-called sex-ed of the "bible belt" states is far less effective than, well, actual sex-ed.  This leads to more little Republicans.

Because shortly after the pretend-sex-ed, the kids find out that sex is fun, and "all that protection stuff doesn't work so we just won't bother with it."


And once the babies are here the bootstrappy kid parents are forced to turn to their extended family for help with the squalling brats, who will of course turn them away because they're not their problem, thus adding to their argument that something needs to be done about all these welfare moms!
 
2013-05-28 05:03:11 PM

scalpod: gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.

Looks like some political party didn't think its cunning plan all the way through?

GOOD


But it doesn't work that way... If they knew how to do it CAREFULLY that'd be the case, no one has ever been scared out of having sex evah....
 
2013-05-28 05:04:05 PM

Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.


You must be new here.
 
2013-05-28 05:04:18 PM
How convenient!

The amount of spit an average classroom can provide is equeal to the amount of lube I require to properly wreck eight partners.
 
2013-05-28 05:04:26 PM

Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.


So sperm and unfertilized eggs aren't alive? Hunh. I never knew that. Thanks for the info.
 
2013-05-28 05:04:28 PM

Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.


A human life at conception is equivalent to the yeast cell you kill in baking bread in terms of organization and consciousness, and may actually not implant in the uterus, which means a yeast cell is actually more viable. Why do you kill all those poor innocent yeast cells by eating bread?
 
2013-05-28 05:05:09 PM

not_an_indigo: You must be new here.


Nope, long-lived drive-by troll. Been around for years.
 
2013-05-28 05:05:28 PM

sno man: scalpod: gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.

Looks like some political party didn't think its cunning plan all the way through?

GOOD

But it doesn't work that way... If they knew how to do it CAREFULLY that'd be the case, no one has ever been scared out of having sex evah....


Not even after all those Friday the 13th movies?
 
2013-05-28 05:06:44 PM

Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.


Is this English?
 
2013-05-28 05:06:47 PM

scalpod: sno man: scalpod: gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.

Looks like some political party didn't think its cunning plan all the way through?

GOOD

But it doesn't work that way... If they knew how to do it CAREFULLY that'd be the case, no one has ever been scared out of having sex evah....

Not even after all those Friday the 13th movies?


not in my experience
 
2013-05-28 05:07:03 PM

bubo_sibiricus: gweilo8888: Less knocked-up Republicans means less (sic) baby Republicans

You seem to think that this kind of pretend-sex-ed leads to fewer baby Republicans.  It does no such thing.  It's been proven time and again that the so-called sex-ed of the "bible belt" states is far less effective than, well, actual sex-ed.  This leads to more little Republicans.

Because shortly after the pretend-sex-ed, the kids find out that sex is fun, and "all that protection stuff doesn't work so we just won't bother with it."


Didn't Texas  JUST prove this theory by eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood?

You can either:
1) Allow/Fund abortion and birth control
2) Fund comprehensive sex-ed
3) Gratuitously fund welfare and education

Pick at least 1.
 
2013-05-28 05:07:09 PM

gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.


Is THAT what you think this does?  LOWER pregnancy rates?
 
2013-05-28 05:07:48 PM

lennavan: hasty ambush: I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE SOME MORE ATTENTION HERE PLEASE

Oh, okay.  Hi there, what are you up to?


What sociopaths are always up to - getting entertainment by being raging douchebags.
 
2013-05-28 05:07:54 PM

Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.


A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.
 
2013-05-28 05:08:38 PM

theorellior: not_an_indigo: You must be new here.

Nope, long-lived drive-by troll. Been around for years.


Accounts created 2006 and 2007.

Wow, one whole year longer. Color me impressed.
 
2013-05-28 05:09:29 PM

SithLord: Well I guess Decisions, Choices and Options will soon be on the IRS hit list.


Wow, you're especially ignorant about a situation you are posting about.
 
2013-05-28 05:10:55 PM

Tomahawk513: bubo_sibiricus: gweilo8888: Less knocked-up Republicans means less (sic) baby Republicans

You seem to think that this kind of pretend-sex-ed leads to fewer baby Republicans.  It does no such thing.  It's been proven time and again that the so-called sex-ed of the "bible belt" states is far less effective than, well, actual sex-ed.  This leads to more little Republicans.

Because shortly after the pretend-sex-ed, the kids find out that sex is fun, and "all that protection stuff doesn't work so we just won't bother with it."

Didn't Texas  JUST prove this theory by eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood?

You can either:
1) Allow/Fund abortion and birth control
2) Fund comprehensive sex-ed
3) Gratuitously fund welfare and education

Pick at least 1.


Yep, it came out to about 30k unwanted pregnancies due to limited accesses to some form of affordable birth control.  How many came to term vs aborted and/or miscarried due to substandard/non-existent neonatal care I don't know
 
2013-05-28 05:11:03 PM

scalpod: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

So sperm and unfertilized eggs aren't alive? Hunh. I never knew that. Thanks for the info.


Just remember every sperm is sacred ; )
 
2013-05-28 05:11:21 PM

RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.


True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.
 
2013-05-28 05:12:01 PM

Tomahawk513: bubo_sibiricus: gweilo8888: Less knocked-up Republicans means less (sic) baby Republicans

You seem to think that this kind of pretend-sex-ed leads to fewer baby Republicans.  It does no such thing.  It's been proven time and again that the so-called sex-ed of the "bible belt" states is far less effective than, well, actual sex-ed.  This leads to more little Republicans.

Because shortly after the pretend-sex-ed, the kids find out that sex is fun, and "all that protection stuff doesn't work so we just won't bother with it."

Didn't Texas  JUST prove this theory by eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood?

You can either:
1) Allow/Fund abortion and birth control
2) Fund comprehensive sex-ed
3) Gratuitously fund welfare and education

Pick at least 1.


No, lots and lots of poor starving people!  We need more humans!  Who then die.  So we can feel good about ourselves!  Your socialism just wants people to live happy lives, and Jesus hates that.
 
2013-05-28 05:12:39 PM
Wasill said God spoke to her through one of his radio show guests, urging her to promote the pro-life beliefs she'd always held.

Nothing crazy about that, nosiree!

/fark, these people frighten me
 
2013-05-28 05:13:13 PM
I hear if you have sex in a hot tub, you can't get pregnant if you're already pregnant.
 
2013-05-28 05:13:49 PM

theorellior: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A human life at conception is equivalent to the yeast cell you kill in baking bread in terms of organization and consciousness, and may actually not implant in the uterus, which means a yeast cell is actually more viable. Why do you kill all those poor innocent yeast cells by eating bread?


The Sanctity of LifeTM only applies to American babbys. Any other living thing (especially abortion doctors) are fair game.
 
2013-05-28 05:14:12 PM
The thing is, once your kids realize that you lied to them about half of the stuff you told them about sex... they assume the other half was lies too. Effectively, you devalue your own efforts by lying to your kids. Same goes for drugs... when they figure out that you were lying, that mj has lower toxicity than potatoes... then they no longer believe any of the other stuff you told them about drugs, even if it was accurate.
 
2013-05-28 05:16:02 PM

Sticky Hands: It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.


Actually, with some creative genetics, you can actually make it into a pig.
 
2013-05-28 05:16:55 PM

Valiente: Having sex with eight people is all fun until the O-ring failure. Then it's a sport.


Agree:
spacekate.com
 
2013-05-28 05:17:26 PM

kliq: I hear if you have sex in a hot tub, you can't get pregnant if you're already pregnant.


Also, you can't get pregnant the first time you have sex and every other time after that
 
2013-05-28 05:17:44 PM

RexTalionis: Sticky Hands: It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.

Actually, with some creative genetics, you can actually make it into a pig.


And if you're sick enough you could make it into a BLT.
 
2013-05-28 05:18:07 PM

Sticky Hands: True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.


There's that if again, especially because 30% of fertilized eggs do not actually implant.
 
2013-05-28 05:18:23 PM

hasty ambush: College Professor forced to students to sign pledge to vote for Obama


I find it interesting that the college fired this professor, which was the right thing to do.

Do you agree that the Sumner County School Board should fire Beth Cox and never hire Joi Wasill, or her nonprofit Decisions, Choices and Options to give sex-ed presentations to students ever again?
 
2013-05-28 05:19:01 PM

hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach and othe rthings they do with tax dollars?

ALL white people are racists
professor compelled students in her graphic design class to create artwork opposing firearms on campus and opposing pro-gun legislation currently pending before the Texas state legislature. The professor then used the artwork students created online to publicize an anti-gun petition entitled


College Professor forced to students to sign pledge to vote for Obama

Democrats to force students to reveal their sexuality


WTF threadjack. Asshole.
 
2013-05-28 05:20:45 PM

Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.

True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.


That makes it human. That does not make it a Human.
A skin cell, given the right conditions (say, a cloning lab), can become a fetus, and a child. But that does not mean every skin cell IS a child.
 
2013-05-28 05:21:26 PM

Rapmaster2000: hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach withe tax dollars?

ALL white epeople are racists

The only people that say this are white racists.  They are also the only people who talk about white guilt as  the only reason for a white person to not be racist.


I'm reminded of people who get really, really upset about what constitutes a hate crime.

Seriously, if you want to be subtle while you're trying to find out if an individual is racist, just bring up the concept of a hate crime. A normal, run-of-the-mill, decent person may question whether assigning minority groups protected status under the law is wise, or they may see it as a way to combat decades (if not centuries) of discrimination. But it's not really a big deal for them. Philosophical differences aside, it's just not a huge factor in their world.

A racist, though? They'll have very strong, very angry opinions about hate crimes, and they will become flat-out irate, almost instantly.

This has worked 100% of the time for me, with zero false positives.
 
2013-05-28 05:22:50 PM

Mega Steve: kliq: I hear if you have sex in a hot tub, you can't get pregnant if you're already pregnant.

Also, you can't get pregnant the first time you have sex and every other time after that


I hear that if you have sex while you're already pregnant, you can get pregnant-pregnant, which is where your babby comes out pre-pregnant.

yodawg.jpg

/or maybe Stephon from SNL?
//pregnant
 
2013-05-28 05:22:56 PM

Maud Dib: hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach and othe rthings they do with tax dollars?

ALL white people are racists
professor compelled students in her graphic design class to create artwork opposing firearms on campus and opposing pro-gun legislation currently pending before the Texas state legislature. The professor then used the artwork students created online to publicize an anti-gun petition entitled


College Professor forced to students to sign pledge to vote for Obama

Democrats to force students to reveal their sexuality

WTF threadjack. Asshole.


Not a threadjack, more of just a non sequitur response from a conservative regarding a debate that he/she has already lost.
 
2013-05-28 05:28:35 PM
my very conservative mom once gave my fiancee and I a pamphlet on the dangers of premarital sex and living together before marriage. It actually said that "studies show that unmarried couples living together are more likely to get AIDS"

My mom taught 7th grade science at a public school for 35 years.

/getting a kick
 
2013-05-28 05:30:10 PM

Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.

True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.


If you cure it and smoke it, it can become a delicious BLT.
 
2013-05-28 05:31:20 PM
Uh... most STDs can't be transmitted by saliva at all, so having sex with one person without them being tested recently is equivalent to infinity mouthfuls of spit, plus one... and less hydrating.

//Leave it to right-wing religious idiots to manage to get a divide by zero error in a farking sex ed class.  I wouldn't have even thought that was possible.
 
2013-05-28 05:31:38 PM

bubo_sibiricus: You seem to think that this kind of pretend-sex-ed leads to fewer baby Republicans.  It does no such thing.  It's been proven time and again that the so-called sex-ed of the "bible belt" states is far less effective than, well, actual sex-ed.  This leads to more little Republicans.

Because shortly after the pretend-sex-ed, the kids find out that sex is fun, and "all that protection stuff doesn't work so we just won't bother with it."


You seem to be unable to distinguish between humor and derp. Time to calibrate your radar?
 
2013-05-28 05:31:51 PM
So let me get this straight subby,

You believe that teenagers should have sex with eight people, not wear condoms, and that life doesnt begin when cells form together and start creating a human being? And Conservatives are the root cause of all evil and should be banished to the seven hells for all eternity?

It must be fun to be an idiot who walks around blaming a fictional group of people for all of the worlds problems and never taking the time to see if what you are saying is screwed up in the first place.
 
2013-05-28 05:32:10 PM
I wonder if there are even any real Sex Ed programs in schools in general at this point. It almost seems to me like they have all been replaced by insane abstinence only programs. The only sex-ed program I can think of that is comprehensive, etc. is the OWL one the UU's put on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Whole_Lives
 
2013-05-28 05:32:10 PM

theorellior: scottydoesntknow: Works great for D.A.R.E.

Waitaminute here. Hold the phone. Are you telling me that if you take LSD you don't think you're an orange, and that if someone touches you you'll turn into orange juice?


Dude, I took LSD once. I thought my fridge turned into a puma, so I grabbed a spear and hunted the farker down across my neighborhood...
 
vpc
2013-05-28 05:34:19 PM
Actually, the most disturbing bit?  FTA:

Metro Nashville School Board member Michael Hayes, whose district includes Hillsboro, wrote in an email that excerpts of the presentation surprised him. "Fortunately, I believe the Hillsboro High School kids are smart enough to separate fact from fiction and that some of the opinions and scare tactics used in the presentation they will know are incorrect," he wrote.

In other words, "It doesn't matter if we teach them incorrect information because they'll magically know what the correct information is."

REALLY? Do we not understand the basic tenet of education, learning about things we don't already know?
 
2013-05-28 05:35:14 PM
From an apologist's comments in the Tennessean article:

The article combined two distinctly different comments into one when it states that sleeping with 8 partners is equivalent to drinking a whole classrooms spit. The presenter actually states that sleeping with 8 partners is the same as sleeping with 255, and later uses spitting in a cup as an example of sharing fluids and spreading diease.

Because that's MUCH more accurate.
 
2013-05-28 05:36:39 PM

rtaylor92: my very conservative mom once gave my fiancee and I a pamphlet on the dangers of premarital sex and living together before marriage. It actually said that "studies show that unmarried couples living together are more likely to get AIDS"

My mom taught 7th grade science at a public school for 35 years.

/getting a kick


That probably is true actually. Less committed relationships mean increased chances of multiple partners which would increase your risk of AIDs. It isn't because they are living together unmarried, it is because they are in a non-committed relationship and enjoy the benefits of living together, without the hard part of a relationship. Not to say cheating does not happen in supposedly monogamous marriages however.
 
2013-05-28 05:36:56 PM

Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.


Hahaha.

4/10
 
2013-05-28 05:37:12 PM

Citrate1007: Keeping your children misinformed about reproduction does more harm than good.


Very true.  As a (marginally and convincingly) responsible parent I also enjoy greatly the embarrassment that talking about sex and sexuality causes the kids.  One of the great joys of parenting is to daily make the teenagers blush 7 shades of red.  By doing so you'll expose them to every sexual topic that's in your vernacular.  Over time and hopefully before they start having sex they'll have learned as much as they need to know before they do something stupid.
 
2013-05-28 05:37:33 PM

Bonobo62: Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.

True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.

If you cure it and smoke it, it can become a delicious BLT.


Baby, lettuce, and tomato?
 
2013-05-28 05:38:55 PM

MagicMissile: It must be fun to be an idiot who walks around blaming a fictional group of people for all of the worlds problems and never taking the time to see if what you are saying is screwed up in the first place.


To be good at this troll business it's best to roll out of bed while the thread is still hot. 180 replies in? Strictly minor leagues. Up your game, son.
 
2013-05-28 05:39:41 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

Hahaha.

4/10


with all those bites?

6.5/10
 
2013-05-28 05:39:45 PM

Smeggy Smurf: One of the great joys of parenting is to daily make the teenagers blush 7 shades of red. By doing so you'll expose them to every sexual topic that's in your vernacular.


What shade of red does "Cleveland steamer" warrant?
 
2013-05-28 05:39:54 PM

Koodz: From an apologist's comments in the Tennessean article:

The article combined two distinctly different comments into one when it states that sleeping with 8 partners is equivalent to drinking a whole classrooms spit. The presenter actually states that sleeping with 8 partners is the same as sleeping with 255, and later uses spitting in a cup as an example of sharing fluids and spreading diease.

Because that's MUCH more accurate.


Using that math well wow I slept with a lot of people, but no more than 4 others at the same time so I'm good right?
 
2013-05-28 05:41:23 PM

theorellior: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A human life at conception is equivalent to the yeast cell you kill in baking bread in terms of organization and consciousness, and may actually not implant in the uterus, which means a yeast cell is actually more viable. Why do you kill all those poor innocent yeast cells by eating bread?


Because it's delicious.

We're still talking about abortions, right? 'Cause bread is gross.
 
2013-05-28 05:41:43 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Citrate1007: Keeping your children misinformed about reproduction does more harm than good.

Very true.  As a (marginally and convincingly) responsible parent I also enjoy greatly the embarrassment that talking about sex and sexuality causes the kids.  One of the great joys of parenting is to daily make the teenagers blush 7 shades of red.  By doing so you'll expose them to every sexual topic that's in your vernacular.  Over time and hopefully before they start having sex they'll have learned as much as they need to know before they do something stupid.


Like explain to them if they go off and get some chick pregnant, you are going to kick them out of the house and it is entirely up to them to pay for and care for the child. If they decide to have the abortion, they still get kicked out of the house. Making them understand that making big-boy decisions also means them living like big-boys is a pretty good deterrent. Then you have my cousin who does not have a job, continues to have kids in a not-so-great relationship with the mother, and his parents take care of the lot of them. That will really show him!
 
2013-05-28 05:44:02 PM
So a bunch of folks that are made for each other.  Go on ahead and screw each other silly.  There are plenty of farkers willing to pay to raise your child :)
 
2013-05-28 05:44:26 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: scalpod: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

So sperm and unfertilized eggs aren't alive? Hunh. I never knew that. Thanks for the info.

Just remember every sperm is sacred ; )


*blinks*
Wait.
What?
 
2013-05-28 05:44:32 PM

fredklein: Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.

True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.

That makes it human. That does not make it a Human.
A skin cell, given the right conditions (say, a cloning lab), can become a fetus, and a child. But that does not mean every skin cell IS a child.


Correct. My appendix is human but nobody cries MURDER! if I have it removed.
 
2013-05-28 05:44:39 PM
It is not about what age you start having sex, it is about the nature of your sexual habits and those of your partners. I started have sexual contact at 11 and full intercourse by 12 I have never impregnated anyone and I have never had an STD, because I chose good partners and used birth control. I have turned down a lot more sexual encounters, because I wasn't comfortable with the partner's history leaving me with a total of 16 partners out of over 70 possible in my 40 years.
 
2013-05-28 05:45:31 PM
hasty ambush:


whalen.files.wordpress.com
/hot like a foot tapper's brow
 
2013-05-28 05:45:40 PM
I should just hang myself now instead of getting old and being under the care of these jibbering cretins in a nursing home, shouldn't I?

Idiocracy was supposed to take place after 500 years. IRL, I'm giving it 50.
 
2013-05-28 05:46:09 PM

DirkNiggla: I know of one STD worse than AIDS that i leared about in school...

(children.  they last forever and cost a fortune, and no matter how hard you try to get rid of them with two flushes and a plunger, they just keep pulling their head back out of the toilet and eating all my damn food)


You sound Chinese...

/sad they flush their unwanted kids
 
2013-05-28 05:46:56 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Using that math well wow I slept with a lot of people, but no more than 4 others at the same time so I'm good right?


Mags, you're $%^&ing awesome. (Lyrics NSFW.)
 
2013-05-28 05:47:47 PM

kimmygibblershomework: So a bunch of folks that are made for each other. Go on ahead and screw each other silly. There are plenty of farkers willing to pay to raise your child :)


I know you're slow, so I'll space it out for you: Comprehensive. Sex. Education. Allows. Control. Of. Pregnancy.

Bingo, no unwanted crotchfruit!
 
2013-05-28 05:47:53 PM
Life does begin at conception, though.
 
2013-05-28 05:48:55 PM
www.gannett-cdn.comi1214.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-28 05:49:17 PM

Pocket Ninja: I'm not sure I understand the spit thing. Are we talking about drinking spit equivalent to an entire classroom (lets call that 25 people) spitting once into a bucket? Or are we talking about somehow draining all the spit from each person in the classroom, collecting that into some sort of spit trough, and drinking that? That's two entirely different prospects, right there, and I'd need to know which one I'm considering (as well as what the 8 people I'd be having sex with look like). There's always tradeoffs; sometimes they're worth it and sometimes they're not.


Considering that this speech is being given to hormone-crazed teenagers, this audience might find either scenario an acceptable price to pay if it guaranteed sex with at least 8 people.
 
2013-05-28 05:49:39 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Koodz: From an apologist's comments in the Tennessean article:

The article combined two distinctly different comments into one when it states that sleeping with 8 partners is equivalent to drinking a whole classrooms spit. The presenter actually states that sleeping with 8 partners is the same as sleeping with 255, and later uses spitting in a cup as an example of sharing fluids and spreading diease.

Because that's MUCH more accurate.

Using that math well wow I slept with a lot of people, but no more than 4 others at the same time so I'm good right?


Four?  You might as well change your name to Tinfoil Hat Annabel Chong.
 
2013-05-28 05:50:24 PM

theorellior: Smeggy Smurf: One of the great joys of parenting is to daily make the teenagers blush 7 shades of red. By doing so you'll expose them to every sexual topic that's in your vernacular.

What shade of red does "Cleveland steamer" warrant?


Purple 3 lasting for upwards of 15 minutes

The other comment made by a wanker does not deserve a dignified answer.
 
2013-05-28 05:52:13 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: scalpod: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

So sperm and unfertilized eggs aren't alive? Hunh. I never knew that. Thanks for the info.

Just remember every sperm is sacred ; )

*blinks*
Wait.
What?


It's really where the argument against using birth control comes from, which is funny since I heard protestants could wear a little rubber thingy on their John Thomas, why if they wanted to they could even wear a French tickler, but the Baptist don't seem to think so anymore.
 
2013-05-28 05:52:14 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: scalpod: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

So sperm and unfertilized eggs aren't alive? Hunh. I never knew that. Thanks for the info.

Just remember every sperm is sacred ; )


I...I love you. Will you marry me?
 
2013-05-28 05:54:20 PM
Life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous, ongoing process.
 
2013-05-28 05:55:38 PM
Gods, I can't wait to get out of this town. The level of stupid is growing here every day and it shows no sign of stopping. Just the fact that the city schools can present a person who was a political serf for a republican politician, and another who has very little credentials about anything, as qualified to discuss sexual and reproductive health with students who, despite the pathetic disclaimers, were forced to listen to this drivel is enough to make someone so disillusioned with the human race as to make them the subject of a 'Criminal Minds' episode. One can only hope that sanity will one day be restored in most of the country, but in the South we never had it anyway, so why bother with hope?
 
2013-05-28 05:56:07 PM

Koodz: tinfoil-hat maggie: Koodz: From an apologist's comments in the Tennessean article:

The article combined two distinctly different comments into one when it states that sleeping with 8 partners is equivalent to drinking a whole classrooms spit. The presenter actually states that sleeping with 8 partners is the same as sleeping with 255, and later uses spitting in a cup as an example of sharing fluids and spreading diease.

Because that's MUCH more accurate.

Using that math well wow I slept with a lot of people, but no more than 4 others at the same time so I'm good right?

Four?  You might as well change your name to Tinfoil Hat Annabel Chong.


Not sure who Annebel Chong is, but most of them were other girls, what?
 
2013-05-28 05:57:59 PM

maram500: tinfoil-hat maggie: scalpod: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

So sperm and unfertilized eggs aren't alive? Hunh. I never knew that. Thanks for the info.

Just remember every sperm is sacred ; )

I...I love you. Will you marry me?


Anyone crazy enough to marry me I don't want to be married to, sorry.
 
2013-05-28 06:02:08 PM

NutWrench: Life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous, ongoing process.


Well, the criteria for being a living organism inculde capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction.

The capacity for reproduction doesn't occur until fairly late in fetal development.  While they're part of the larger ongoing process of capital-L life, an early fetus is not, itself, technically a living organism.
 
2013-05-28 06:02:20 PM
These days, one can make the argument that most STD's are worse than HIV infection.
 
2013-05-28 06:03:03 PM
Imagine the quality of voter you'll have in the next 10 years.
 
2013-05-28 06:06:50 PM

not_an_indigo: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

You must be new here.


Yes, Mija, first and foremost this is an atheist, pro-choice, anti-gun, anti-patriotism (from a recent forum, apparently because that word is too Republican), anti-tobacco but pro-marijuana, and pro-expansion of government website only.  Also, it is important to remember that all Southerners are dumb and racist but no one else is and George Bush was the dumbest president ever and also the smartest (in an evil way) president ever for being able to fool all of Congress and a multitude of other nations into supporting actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

No other viewpoints will be tolerated or debated because other viewpoints are inherently intolerant.
 
2013-05-28 06:08:32 PM

Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.

True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.


So will sperm.  Is sperm a child?
 
2013-05-28 06:09:03 PM
(taxpayer dollars) says subby

Global Warming?
Electric cars?
Endless war?
Every bit of madness called 'education'?

... c'mon subs. 'Conservatives' have so far to climb up the tree of forbidden taxpayer fruit to warrant the "AND THEY'RE DOING IT WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS meme I'll be on my third reincarnation before 'conservatives' get to the break-even point with ProgLib's fleecing of America.
 
2013-05-28 06:10:14 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: scalpod: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

So sperm and unfertilized eggs aren't alive? Hunh. I never knew that. Thanks for the info.

Just remember every sperm is sacred ; )

*blinks*
Wait.
What?

It's really where the argument against using birth control comes from, which is funny since I heard protestants could wear a little rubber thingy on their John Thomas, why if they wanted to they could even wear a French tickler, but the Baptist don't seem to think so anymore.


Ah.  I thought you didn't like the python.
/You're still $%^&ing awesome.
 
2013-05-28 06:11:44 PM

Somacandra: bigmike485: "I'm not a biology major"... well now that's the only thing in her speech that makes sense.

And that was the point that EVERYONE should have collectively walked out and called CNN. After cockpunching her.


That's the student body's way of shutting the whole thing down.
 
2013-05-28 06:12:28 PM

fusillade762: fredklein: Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.

True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.

That makes it human. That does not make it a Human.
A skin cell, given the right conditions (say, a cloning lab), can become a fetus, and a child. But that does not mean every skin cell IS a child.

Correct. My appendix is human but nobody cries MURDER! if I have it removed.


How often does an appendix sprout arms legs and a brain and pop out after nine months?

/That would be awesome if it were possible
 
2013-05-28 06:15:59 PM

theorellior: I'm thinking in maybe 70, 80 years the Coasts are going to have to recolonize the center of the continent, rounding up the degenerate bands of hooting savages living there into reservations for their own good.


This is perfect! And include the south, too.
 
2013-05-28 06:16:04 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: scalpod: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

So sperm and unfertilized eggs aren't alive? Hunh. I never knew that. Thanks for the info.

Just remember every sperm is sacred ; )

*blinks*
Wait.
What?

It's really where the argument against using birth control comes from, which is funny since I heard protestants could wear a little rubber thingy on their John Thomas, why if they wanted to they could even wear a French tickler, but the Baptist don't seem to think so anymore.

Ah.  I thought you didn't like the python.
/You're still $%^&ing awesome.


What gave you that idea, oh, I see what you did there ; )
/And for the record bi but like women better
//For awhile I used to date male-female couples, that was interesting.
 
2013-05-28 06:19:26 PM

demarke: How often does an appendix sprout arms legs and a brain and pop out after nine months?

/That would be awesome if it were possible


It is possible. With a little help, of course, but it is possible. You remove the nucleus of an egg and take the deprogrammed egg (now lacking a nucleus and the nuclear DNA) and insert the nucleus from a cell removed from an appendix. The deprogrammed egg will take the appendix cell nucleus and reprogram it to repurpose the appendix cell nucleus into an egg cell nucleus. Give it a little shock and now it will start to divide.

This is how you create clones. This process is called a somatic cell nuclear transfer.
 
2013-05-28 06:20:50 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-05-28 06:24:42 PM
it seems christians have outsourced 'pleasure from sex' to india.

/kama sutra hot
 
2013-05-28 06:25:03 PM

RexTalionis: demarke: How often does an appendix sprout arms legs and a brain and pop out after nine months?

/That would be awesome if it were possible

It is possible. With a little help, of course, but it is possible. You remove the nucleus of an egg and take the deprogrammed egg (now lacking a nucleus and the nuclear DNA) and insert the nucleus from a cell removed from an appendix. The deprogrammed egg will take the appendix cell nucleus and reprogram it to repurpose the appendix cell nucleus into an egg cell nucleus. Give it a little shock and now it will start to divide.

This is how you create clones. This process is called a somatic cell nuclear transfer.


Brain melting now, I only ever cloned plants.
 
2013-05-28 06:26:13 PM

theorellior: Sticky Hands: True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.

There's that if again, especially because 30% of fertilized eggs do not actually implant.



If I were to go out and smash the just fertilized eggs of some endangered owl and I attempted that same argument, my ass would end up in jail because of the potential I destroyed. Those eggs could have become the owl.

Is that different than an abortion? Slightly. The biggest differences between these situation are: 1) We already have plenty of humans. 2) We have seen that it's not a good idea to make someone be a mother who does not want to be a mother. Those situations tend to be horrible for the mother and the child and the rest of us end up paying for them in various ways.

And to mix this up a bit: If a someone attacks a pregnant woman with the intention of killing the unborn and that person is successful, what should they be charged with?  Simple assault? Something more? Only the most radical would claim that killing an fetus that the mother wanted isn't something worse than the exactly same attack on a non-pregnant woman or man.

 Lets face it. It's human. Or potentially human, which is fundamentally different than:

fredklein: A skin cell, given the right conditions (say, a cloning lab), can become a fetus, and a child. But that does not mean every skin cell IS a child.


or:

fusillade762: Correct. My appendix is human but nobody cries MURDER! if I have it removed.


Neither of those has the potential to become human on their own. But you can bet your ass that once we can clone humans, destroying one (clone) will carry the same penalties as destroying the original.

or:

 The Southern Dandy So will sperm. Is sperm a child?

If sperm could grow into children by itself the world would be a very different place.....


I'm not against Abortion. I think it should continue to at least as legal as it is now if not more so. It's not something I particularity like, and I wish it were not necessary. It would be wonderful if contraception never failed, if women never got raped, only became pregnant when they wanted to, never had health or financial or familial circumstances change drastically during pregnancy and never ended up having to choose between their life and the one they are carrying  But I live in an imperfect world, and the alternatives to legal abortion are worse.

For the record: I am also hugely against abstinence only sex ed.
 
2013-05-28 06:27:08 PM
The principal that okayed this needs to be farking fired.
 
2013-05-28 06:27:57 PM

groppet: Hey if Im gonna go anal in a girl I'm gonna at least spit in the thing to lube it up. I'm a gentleman like that not some kinda damn savage.

Im suprised they didnt say anything about interacial sex.


At first I read that as "I'm a gentleman like that not some kinda Dan Savage," and then I pictured the columnist as rape Ewok.

t.qkme.me

/hot, unlike my last mental image
 
2013-05-28 06:30:25 PM

Sticky Hands: fusillade762: Correct. My appendix is human but nobody cries MURDER! if I have it removed.

Neither of those has the potential to become human on their own. But you can bet your ass that once we can clone humans, destroying one (clone) will carry the same penalties as destroying the original.


It's probably already been mentioned, but by that logic (it can create a potential person) we should be farking like bunnies and cramming the planet to capacity with more humans. Every woman who refuses to have sex with me is preventing a new human from being created and should be treated as a murderer.
 
2013-05-28 06:31:05 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Using that math well wow I slept with a lot of people, but no more than 4 others at the same time so I'm good right?


cdn.styleforum.net
 
2013-05-28 06:31:29 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: What gave you that idea, oh, I see what you did there ; )
/And for the record bi but like women better


For the record, I like women better, too. Thought you were like me and exclusively into women, though.
What I like about you is you don't pull punches, but you say what you need to with humor.
You have a great eye for gams.
And your omnivorous approach to music is quirky-good, which is a rare gift.
Ever look into doing a Demento-style show?
 
2013-05-28 06:31:35 PM

Profedius: It is not about what age you start having sex, it is about the nature of your sexual habits and those of your partners. I started have sexual contact at 11 and full intercourse by 12 I have never impregnated anyone and I have never had an STD, because I chose good partners and used birth control. I have turned down a lot more sexual encounters, because I wasn't comfortable with the partner's history leaving me with a total of 16 partners out of over 70 possible in my 40 years.


except of course for HPV, which condoms do not always prevent.  no matter how careful you are, you'd have to have lottery-winning odds to have never come into contact with or spread HPV.  without even knowing it even.

my point is, no matter how careful you are, shiat happens.  condoms and birth control are not 100% methods of protection.  although i commend you for trying to be safe, just realize not everyone with an STD or unplanned pregnancy was funneling gallons of infected semen in their twat.
 
2013-05-28 06:31:50 PM

SovietCanuckistan: hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach and othe rthings they do with tax dollars?

ALL white people are racists
professor compelled students in her graphic design class to create artwork opposing firearms on campus and opposing pro-gun legislation currently pending before the Texas state legislature. The professor then used the artwork students created online to publicize an anti-gun petition entitled


College Professor forced to students to sign pledge to vote for Obama

Democrats to force students to reveal their sexuality

WHAT PART OF EYE HERPES DID YOU NOT GET?


Eye herpes is called herpes zoster.

/TMYK
 
2013-05-28 06:33:19 PM

RexTalionis: demarke: How often does an appendix sprout arms legs and a brain and pop out after nine months?

/That would be awesome if it were possible

It is possible. With a little help, of course, but it is possible. You remove the nucleus of an egg and take the deprogrammed egg (now lacking a nucleus and the nuclear DNA) and insert the nucleus from a cell removed from an appendix. The deprogrammed egg will take the appendix cell nucleus and reprogram it to repurpose the appendix cell nucleus into an egg cell nucleus. Give it a little shock and now it will start to divide.

This is how you create clones. This process is called a somatic cell nuclear transfer.


Has this finally passed into the realm of the actually possible as opposed to theoretically?
Last I heard it's still a bit too difficult.
It is something I have to consider in my overall positions, since I suspect that one day it's likely to work.
but I'm not sure what the implications would be, it would cause a lot of problems with how we presently identify individuals that's for damn sure.
 
2013-05-28 06:33:59 PM
Well, the math says that it is really worse then that, you have a chance of catching anything that person and all those people that had sex with.  It is more of a tree diagram with exponentially grows.
 
2013-05-28 06:35:01 PM

Tomahawk513: So, one thumb up Catholic School.


Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh

Dammit Beavis
 
2013-05-28 06:36:24 PM

Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: demarke: How often does an appendix sprout arms legs and a brain and pop out after nine months?

/That would be awesome if it were possible

It is possible. With a little help, of course, but it is possible. You remove the nucleus of an egg and take the deprogrammed egg (now lacking a nucleus and the nuclear DNA) and insert the nucleus from a cell removed from an appendix. The deprogrammed egg will take the appendix cell nucleus and reprogram it to repurpose the appendix cell nucleus into an egg cell nucleus. Give it a little shock and now it will start to divide.

This is how you create clones. This process is called a somatic cell nuclear transfer.

Has this finally passed into the realm of the actually possible as opposed to theoretically?
Last I heard it's still a bit too difficult.
It is something I have to consider in my overall positions, since I suspect that one day it's likely to work.
but I'm not sure what the implications would be, it would cause a lot of problems with how we presently identify individuals that's for damn sure.


www.roslin.ed.ac.uk

Remember Dolly the sheep? Yeah, that's done through somatic cell nuclear transfer. And that was almost 20 years ago.
 
2013-05-28 06:41:49 PM

RexTalionis: demarke: How often does an appendix sprout arms legs and a brain and pop out after nine months?

/That would be awesome if it were possible

It is possible. With a little help, of course, but it is possible. You remove the nucleus of an egg and take the deprogrammed egg (now lacking a nucleus and the nuclear DNA) and insert the nucleus from a cell removed from an appendix. The deprogrammed egg will take the appendix cell nucleus and reprogram it to repurpose the appendix cell nucleus into an egg cell nucleus. Give it a little shock and now it will start to divide.

This is how you create clones. This process is called a somatic cell nuclear transfer.


Excuse me sir, but you appear to be suggesting that the concept of 'life' is in fact a complex one with multiple different interpretations that do not lend themselves to a tortured ideological viewpoint that despises change.

OK I never thought of it like that...
 
2013-05-28 06:43:29 PM
When I was farking my gf, i would spit in her mouth.  God that was hot.
 
2013-05-28 06:44:12 PM

RexTalionis: Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: demarke: How often does an appendix sprout arms legs and a brain and pop out after nine months?

/That would be awesome if it were possible

It is possible. With a little help, of course, but it is possible. You remove the nucleus of an egg and take the deprogrammed egg (now lacking a nucleus and the nuclear DNA) and insert the nucleus from a cell removed from an appendix. The deprogrammed egg will take the appendix cell nucleus and reprogram it to repurpose the appendix cell nucleus into an egg cell nucleus. Give it a little shock and now it will start to divide.

This is how you create clones. This process is called a somatic cell nuclear transfer.

Has this finally passed into the realm of the actually possible as opposed to theoretically?
Last I heard it's still a bit too difficult.
It is something I have to consider in my overall positions, since I suspect that one day it's likely to work.
but I'm not sure what the implications would be, it would cause a lot of problems with how we presently identify individuals that's for damn sure.

[www.roslin.ed.ac.uk image 523x618]

Remember Dolly the sheep? Yeah, that's done through somatic cell nuclear transfer. And that was almost 20 years ago.


I do remember Dolly, and some dogs and other animals, I seem to remember there were several issues (beyond just ethics) with making it work with primates.  The one lab to claim success on human cloning turned out to be a fraud (the Raellians or something)  and I admit to not following it much since.
 
2013-05-28 06:47:13 PM

theorellior: I'm thinking in maybe 70, 80 years the Coasts are going to have to recolonize the center of the continent, rounding up the degenerate bands of hooting savages living there into reservations for their own good.


That actually fits with our current concept of people (ie. our intellectual betters) on the coasts.

/ all things new are better than all things old
 
2013-05-28 06:47:41 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: What gave you that idea, oh, I see what you did there ; )
/And for the record bi but like women better

For the record, I like women better, too. Thought you were like me and exclusively into women, though.
What I like about you is you don't pull punches, but you say what you need to with humor.
You have a great eye for gams.
And your omnivorous approach to music is quirky-good, which is a rare gift.
Ever look into doing a Demento-style show?


Well thank you, but yea I can fall for guys and have but well...
And really others know music much better than I, but it is sort of a shame there isn't something like Dr.Demento anymore.
And well as far as the gams go I just like what I like : )
 
2013-05-28 06:48:14 PM
We got taught the whole "holes in laytex are big enough for HIV to go through so condoms are useless!" thing is my youth Sunday School class. Shockingly three out of the eight girls in that class got pregnant in middle school and high school. Even more shockingly they were all going to a Christian private school.

BUt hell, at least my tax dollars didn't pay for that class.
 
2013-05-28 06:49:16 PM

Sticky Hands: Is that different than an abortion? Slightly. The biggest differences between these situation are: 1) We already have plenty of humans.


Ah, nevermind, you mentioned it yourself. Please feel free to ignore my last post.
 
2013-05-28 06:50:25 PM

Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: demarke: How often does an appendix sprout arms legs and a brain and pop out after nine months?

/That would be awesome if it were possible

It is possible. With a little help, of course, but it is possible. You remove the nucleus of an egg and take the deprogrammed egg (now lacking a nucleus and the nuclear DNA) and insert the nucleus from a cell removed from an appendix. The deprogrammed egg will take the appendix cell nucleus and reprogram it to repurpose the appendix cell nucleus into an egg cell nucleus. Give it a little shock and now it will start to divide.

This is how you create clones. This process is called a somatic cell nuclear transfer.

Has this finally passed into the realm of the actually possible as opposed to theoretically?
Last I heard it's still a bit too difficult.
It is something I have to consider in my overall positions, since I suspect that one day it's likely to work.
but I'm not sure what the implications would be, it would cause a lot of problems with how we presently identify individuals that's for damn sure.

[www.roslin.ed.ac.uk image 523x618]

Remember Dolly the sheep? Yeah, that's done through somatic cell nuclear transfer. And that was almost 20 years ago.

I do remember Dolly, and some dogs and other animals, I seem to remember there were several issues (beyond just ethics) with making it work with primates.  The one lab to claim success on human cloning turned out to be a fraud (the Raellians or something)  and I admit to not following it much since.


news.bbc.co.uk

This is Tetra. It is the first cloned primate (in 1999).
 
2013-05-28 06:50:29 PM

gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.


Except they have sex anyway and don't use birth control. Which is why the red states are the ones on welfare.
 
2013-05-28 06:53:17 PM
Why do conservatives have to lie about every farking thing?
 
2013-05-28 06:54:36 PM

demarke: not_an_indigo: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

You must be new here.

Yes, Mija, first and foremost this is an atheist, pro-choice, anti-gun, anti-patriotism (from a recent forum, apparently because that word is too Republican), anti-tobacco but pro-marijuana, and pro-expansion of government website only.  Also, it is important to remember that all Southerners are dumb and racist but no one else is and George Bush was the dumbest president ever and also the smartest (in an evil way) president ever for being able to fool all of Congress and a multitude of other nations into supporting actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

No other viewpoints will be tolerated or debated because other viewpoints are inherently intolerant.


You must be new here.
 
2013-05-28 06:58:50 PM

RexTalionis: This is Tetra. It is the first cloned primate (in 1999).


That makes me wonder. Has human cloning been accomplished but no one is willing to claim credit because of the fallout? I remember some of the ethical issues included problems with premature aging and other health issues in the clones, but maybe that was just one situation. Another was people worrying about a clone stealing their identity, which seemed silly to me, though the problem of identifying one individual out of a batch of many clones could be a problem.
 
2013-05-28 06:59:48 PM

demarke: fusillade762:

Correct. My appendix is human but nobody cries MURDER! if I have it removed.

How often does an appendix sprout arms legs and a brain and pop out after nine months?


Irrelevant. We're discussing what a fetus IS, not what it might, possibly, one day become.

/Should any women who has a miscarriage be charged with murder??
//If a turtle gets hit with a alien intelligence-increasing ray tomorrow, does that make the turtle 'a person' today?
 
2013-05-28 07:03:45 PM
Wait, I don't understand the spit thing. Sex with 8 partners is the equivalent of drinking a whole classroom's spit? In what way? Are you taking about volume of fluid expended or health risk? How would you even measure this? How could that even be a study? This comparison is so incoherent that my brain is hurting from trying to make sense of it.

Also the whole the pill isn't 100% because I had a friend who got pregnant 3 times while on the pill argument is just bull. Statistically that's next to impossible. I don't think her friend knew how to use birth control. Also nothing says persuasive like an unverifiable anecdotes!! My best friend is the smartest guy in the world and he always says anecdotes beat actual evidence all the time!

I could do this all day. I wish I were in a Q&A session with this person, I probably would've been kicked out for asking too many questions and questioning her authorita.

/Kids are stupid but not stupid enough to believe this bull
//I'm amazed that these people haven't Darwined themselves out of existence yet. The social conservatives have gone full retard.
 
2013-05-28 07:05:59 PM

skinink: It's bullshiat like this that makes me doubt man is really the smartest species on the planet, it's just that we happened to luck out. How our ancestors weren't originally killed off by saber tooth tigers, t-rex's and other predators amazes me




We are some sneaky farks.
 
2013-05-28 07:06:45 PM
That is just the standard method of operation with conservatives regarding any subject. When in a setting where they can get away with it and not questioned about the facts to back up the asserations, they lie their farking asses off.
 
2013-05-28 07:07:00 PM
img833.imageshack.us
Tonight episode it titled: "Hello Class, Please Sit Down and GIVE ME YOUR SOUL"

or

"Eyebrow are for Suckers."
 
2013-05-28 07:07:02 PM

Sticky Hands: If I were to go out and smash the just fertilized eggs of some endangered owl and I attempted that same argument, my ass would end up in jail because


...because messing with endangered bird eggs is illegal.

Neither of those has the potential to become human on their own. But you can bet your ass that once we can clone humans, destroying one (clone) will carry the same penalties as destroying the original.

And a fertilized ova "on it's own" will not become anything, either. It requires rather specific conditions and equipment, namely a womb. A skin cell can be cloned using a different set of conditions and equipment, namely a cloning lab.
 
2013-05-28 07:07:14 PM

Potter82: Wait, I don't understand the spit thing. Sex with 8 partners is the equivalent of drinking a whole classroom's spit? In what way? Are you taking about volume of fluid expended or health risk? How would you even measure this? How could that even be a study? This comparison is so incoherent that my brain is hurting from trying to make sense of it.

Also the whole the pill isn't 100% because I had a friend who got pregnant 3 times while on the pill argument is just bull. Statistically that's next to impossible. I don't think her friend knew how to use birth control. Also nothing says persuasive like an unverifiable anecdotes!! My best friend is the smartest guy in the world and he always says anecdotes beat actual evidence all the time!

I could do this all day. I wish I were in a Q&A session with this person, I probably would've been kicked out for asking too many questions and questioning her authorita.

/Kids are stupid but not stupid enough to believe this bull
//I'm amazed that these people haven't Darwined themselves out of existence yet. The social conservatives have gone full retard.


Well, the pill like condoms are not totally fail-proof. I did in fact have a friend become pregnant on the pill (and their daughter is now approaching a year old). So, it does happen, it's just very very rare and not really a realistic argument for abstinence only programs to make.
 
2013-05-28 07:07:32 PM

sparkeyjames: Why do conservatives have to lie about every farking thing?


Because reality has a well-known, long standing liberal bias. Besides these people grew up believing fairy tales so they're used to believing in unrealistic BS that does not conform with reality.
 
2013-05-28 07:07:55 PM
media.screened.com

What's next? You stick your d!ck in and it explodes?
 
2013-05-28 07:11:34 PM

fredklein: Sticky Hands: If I were to go out and smash the just fertilized eggs of some endangered owl and I attempted that same argument, my ass would end up in jail because

...because messing with endangered bird eggs is illegal.


To carry on with this argument, if you tracked down a bunch of wild game hens, found their nests, took their eggs, cracked them open and then viciously cooked the contents in a pan, scrambling them to the point of being unrecognizable before consuming them (optionally with a side of fried pig meat) you would be accused of having a poor diet that needs less cholesterol-laden foods in it.
 
2013-05-28 07:12:27 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: it is sort of a shame there isn't something like Dr.Demento anymore


I have you farkied in green (For awhile now) as "OK Chick"
The doctor is still on.
I'm on his show.
 
2013-05-28 07:14:19 PM

sparkeyjames: Why do conservatives have to lie about every farking thing?


Yes.  Conservatives are only concerned with outward appearances.  Underlying truth is irrelevant to conservatives.

Anecdotally, Texas has the highest number of cosmetic surgeries in the nation.  BAM!
 
2013-05-28 07:15:33 PM
Sorry, thought you said "Do conservative have to lie..."
 
2013-05-28 07:16:41 PM

vudukungfu: tinfoil-hat maggie: it is sort of a shame there isn't something like Dr.Demento anymore

I have you farkied in green (For awhile now) as "OK Chick"
The doctor is still on.
I'm on his show.


Internet only. Mags and I are traditionalists - we want Demento back on the air.
/Radio Luxembourg, too.
 
2013-05-28 07:18:31 PM
 
2013-05-28 07:19:29 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Demento back on the air.


You and me both.
Royalties kinda dried up for me.
 
2013-05-28 07:20:00 PM

druiid: Well, the pill like condoms are not totally fail-proof. I did in fact have a friend become pregnant on the pill (and their daughter is now approaching a year old). So, it does happen, it's just very very rare and not really a realistic argument for abstinence only programs to make.


Heh, my high school science teacher told us all 3 of her kids were not planned. 2 came while she was on birth control, and the last came after the dad had a vasectomy (which I'm assuming didn't work).

She told us all this as her daughter was sitting next to me, in class.

/We called her Unplanned Pam after that
 
2013-05-28 07:20:10 PM

chairmenmeow47: Profedius: It is not about what age you start having sex, it is about the nature of your sexual habits and those of your partners. I started have sexual contact at 11 and full intercourse by 12 I have never impregnated anyone and I have never had an STD, because I chose good partners and used birth control. I have turned down a lot more sexual encounters, because I wasn't comfortable with the partner's history leaving me with a total of 16 partners out of over 70 possible in my 40 years.

except of course for HPV, which condoms do not always prevent.  no matter how careful you are, you'd have to have lottery-winning odds to have never come into contact with or spread HPV.  without even knowing it even.

my point is, no matter how careful you are, shiat happens.  condoms and birth control are not 100% methods of protection.  although i commend you for trying to be safe, just realize not everyone with an STD or unplanned pregnancy was funneling gallons of infected semen in their twat.


Yea there are unavoidable things even for those who *are* doing things right which is why *part* of doing things right is GETTING TESTED for STDs if you are sexually active (or in the case of HPV getting the vaccine and women getting pap smears). Also a good benefit of safe and legal abortions being available- because even people who have been told they can't get pregnant or who are on birth control and taking it properly can still get pregnant.
 
2013-05-28 07:23:22 PM

demarke: No other viewpoints will be tolerated or debated because other viewpoints are inherently intolerant.


And yet, here you are.
 
2013-05-28 07:23:51 PM

vudukungfu: tinfoil-hat maggie: it is sort of a shame there isn't something like Dr.Demento anymore

I have you farkied in green (For awhile now) as "OK Chick"
The doctor is still on.
I'm on his show.


Wait really? Link please, wow it's been forever since I heard Dr. D on the radio and he was old then, wow.
Oh and well Dead puppies aren't much fun ya listening to Dr. Demento on the radio when I was in third grade or so probably explains a lot.
 
2013-05-28 07:25:37 PM

sparkeyjames: Why do conservatives have to lie about every farking thing?


1. Because it's fun for them.
2. Because they think it "pisses off liberals," therefore an extension of #1.
3. Because they take pride in being sacks of sh*t, unworthy of the air they breathe and unaware that they're being pointed at and laughed at by the very "liberals" they seek to annoy.
 
2013-05-28 07:25:46 PM

vudukungfu: vudukungfu: Dr.Demento

http://www.drdemento.com/


2013-01-10 15:52:48
From: Dr. Demento
Dr D Returns to Portland, Oregon
Dr. Demento will be making his annual visit to Reed College in Portland, Oregon this month.

He will be giving three talks which are open to the public. All talks are at 7 PM (note time change from last year) in Vollum Lecture Hall near the center of the Reed campus.

Admission is $5.00.

Friday, January 25: "Grandpa's Pornograph." Soft-core and hard-core porn on phonograph records, from the 1890s to the 1960s. Not recommended for children!


I wish I would have known about this! Do you know if any of these events might have been recorded and available for purchase?
 
2013-05-28 07:25:48 PM

digitalrain: Is that 8 partners consecutively or concurrently?


8 partners concurrently sounds like a lot of fun but I had 3 women at the same time and pleasuring all of them is difficult. I had to finish the third partner manually after my gentleman's sausage went spongy.
 
2013-05-28 07:26:09 PM

vudukungfu: vudukungfu: Dr.Demento

http://www.drdemento.com/


OMG thanx, but it want be the same as listening late at night on my clock radio.
 
2013-05-28 07:28:23 PM

rtaylor92: my very conservative mom once gave my fiancee and I a pamphlet on the dangers of premarital sex and living together before marriage. It actually said that "studies show that unmarried couples living together are more likely to get AIDS"

My mom taught 7th grade science at a public school for 35 years.

/getting a kick


Well, there is a difference in what she said is probably technically correct (as married couples probably have fewer partners on average), it is just taken out of context. But the overall effect is the same misleading BS.
 
2013-05-28 07:28:50 PM

skinink: It's bullshiat like this that makes me doubt man is really the smartest species on the planet, it's just that we happened to luck out. How our ancestors weren't originally killed off by saber tooth tigers, t-rex's and other predators amazes me


This. Must have been a few actually smart ones skewing the average. Plus opposable thumbs. Those are handy.
 
2013-05-28 07:31:13 PM
For fark sakes. It's one thing if someone wants to belive in a diety and formulate their beliefs around it. It's another thing to pass off that system as a scientific fact and to pollute young minds with it. Things like sex ed drug ed and civic reponsibility are best left to parents to teach. Because lets face it, educators cant be trusted to give fair and balanced information to kids. Though I geuss many parents cant be trusted either.

in the end I geuss you reap what you sow. Go ahead and give kids bad info. But be prepared to deal with the fallout, which will be massive.

truth hurts. Best to treat it like a band aid and just get it out of the way asap!
 
2013-05-28 07:31:41 PM
I'm really only surprised this story didn't come from Oklahoma. I'm sure there's some weapons-grade stupid there just waiting to be spewed forth (other than the most recent stupid from its two senators).
 
2013-05-28 07:35:07 PM

skinink: It's bullshiat like this that makes me doubt man is really the smartest species on the planet, it's just that we happened to luck out. How our ancestors weren't originally killed off by saber tooth tigers, t-rex's and other predators amazes me


Numbers. Humans are great at breeding. On the other hand, I imagine plenty of humans may have wanted to breed with a T. Rex at one point in time.
i1243.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-28 07:35:07 PM

gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans.


You're acting as though the 'scaring' works.  In reality, fact-based sex ed has been proven to lead to fewer teen pregnancies.  Ergo, their 'faith-based' programs actually do exactly what they want them to do - lead to more kids to be brought up in their culture.
 
2013-05-28 07:35:11 PM

micah1701: chairmenmeow47: if fetuses and babies are the same thing, does that mean i'm nine months older than i thought i was?!

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 250x186]

no, because you're "birth date" is the date you were "born" not the date you became a living being, which was months earlier.


How to troll the tax office in a Republican state:

If your wife/girlfriend becomes pregnant and the due date is after the final filing date for the previous years taxes, CLAIM THE FETUS AS A DEPENDANT for tax reasons just as you would if he/she was a living child! If they question this, point to the legislation saying that the fetus is a person and watch the feathers fly!
 
2013-05-28 07:36:28 PM

scottydoesntknow: druiid: Well, the pill like condoms are not totally fail-proof. I did in fact have a friend become pregnant on the pill (and their daughter is now approaching a year old). So, it does happen, it's just very very rare and not really a realistic argument for abstinence only programs to make.

Heh, my high school science teacher told us all 3 of her kids were not planned. 2 came while she was on birth control, and the last came after the dad had a vasectomy (which I'm assuming didn't work).

She told us all this as her daughter was sitting next to me, in class.

/We called her Unplanned Pam after that


Either he lied about the vasectomy or she was farking the mailman. And if he lied about the vasectomy, he probably sabotaged her pills.
 
2013-05-28 07:37:27 PM

yukichigai: demarke: not_an_indigo: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

You must be new here.

Yes, Mija, first and foremost this is an atheist, pro-choice, anti-gun, anti-patriotism (from a recent forum, apparently because that word is too Republican), anti-tobacco but pro-marijuana, and pro-expansion of government website only.  Also, it is important to remember that all Southerners are dumb and racist but no one else is and George Bush was the dumbest president ever and also the smartest (in an evil way) president ever for being able to fool all of Congress and a multitude of other nations into supporting actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

No other viewpoints will be tolerated or debated because other viewpoints are inherently intolerant.

You must be new here.


Does no one know how to check profiles? 11 years kids... trollieoeo.
 
2013-05-28 07:39:31 PM

Walter Paisley: Do you know if any of these events might have been recorded and available for purchase?


Sure. I lost my original CD for the Condom Machine blues. and a lot of die hard nerds offered to sell me a cassette tape of my own song.

As for the Marc Bolan pic.
You can tell what religion he is.
 
2013-05-28 07:39:32 PM

Do you know the way to Mordor: micah1701: chairmenmeow47: if fetuses and babies are the same thing, does that mean i'm nine months older than i thought i was?!

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 250x186]

no, because you're "birth date" is the date you were "born" not the date you became a living being, which was months earlier.

How to troll the tax office in a Republican state:

If your wife/girlfriend becomes pregnant and the due date is after the final filing date for the previous years taxes, CLAIM THE FETUS AS A DEPENDANT for tax reasons just as you would if he/she was a living child! If they question this, point to the legislation saying that the fetus is a person and watch the feathers fly!


Your news letter, I would like to subscribe to it sir
 
2013-05-28 07:40:00 PM

Firethorn: gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans.

You're acting as though the 'scaring' works.  In reality, fact-based sex ed has been proven to lead to fewer teen pregnancies.  Ergo, their 'faith-based' programs actually do exactly what they want them to do - lead to more kids to be brought up in their culture.


Stop being so sensible this is fark after all.
/Just kidding, carry on.
 
2013-05-28 07:41:12 PM
tinfoil-hat maggie: it want be the same as listening late at night on my clock radio.

Your Freudian slip is showing.
 
2013-05-28 07:42:35 PM
I had sex ed in '69 and Mrs. Ball, the teacher said to us boys:
"Think of a woman as a whole, not as a hole"
 
2013-05-28 07:45:39 PM

sno man: yukichigai: demarke: not_an_indigo: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

You must be new here.

Yes, Mija, first and foremost this is an atheist, pro-choice, anti-gun, anti-patriotism (from a recent forum, apparently because that word is too Republican), anti-tobacco but pro-marijuana, and pro-expansion of government website only.  Also, it is important to remember that all Southerners are dumb and racist but no one else is and George Bush was the dumbest president ever and also the smartest (in an evil way) president ever for being able to fool all of Congress and a multitude of other nations into supporting actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

No other viewpoints will be tolerated or debated because other viewpoints are inherently intolerant.

You must be new here.

Does no one know how to check profiles? 11 years kids... trollieoeo.


static.giantbomb.com
 
2013-05-28 07:48:06 PM

vudukungfu: I had sex ed in '69 and Mrs. Ball, the teacher said to us boys:
"Think of a woman as a whole, not as a hole"


As a whole, they would be holes.
 
2013-05-28 07:48:25 PM
Who cares as long as you don't have to tell your own kids about sex yourself, right?
 
2013-05-28 07:52:05 PM

vudukungfu: tinfoil-hat maggie: it want be the same as listening late at night on my clock radio.

Your Freudian slip is showing.


vudukungfu: tinfoil-hat maggie: it want be the same as listening late at night on my clock radio.

Your Freudian slip is showing.


They generally are, sorry. Even when I don't mean them to be.
/That's what I get for taking a long holiday and drinking for most of it ; )
But I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than have a frontal lobotomy
 
2013-05-28 07:52:26 PM
1) tell them all masturbating themselves is not only okay its recomended by god2) how is this not a hot highschool girl thread?
 
2013-05-28 07:52:43 PM

lennavan: [www.gannett-cdn.com image 214x283]

Kinda weird for a transgender lady to be the conservative spokesperson for abstinence only.


"if nobody will fark me, nobody should fark any of you, either!"
 
2013-05-28 07:58:17 PM

fredklein: Irrelevant. We're discussing what a fetus IS, not what it might, possibly, one day become.


Bullsh*t.  It's as relevant as discussing options for euthanasia, based on what what someone might, possibly, one day become.
 
2013-05-28 07:58:36 PM

kvinesknows: 1) tell them all masturbating themselves is not only okay its recomended by god2) how is this not a hot highschool girl thread?


Some of us are parents. Some of the parents here have children who are being lied to.
(And who would point you out to the FBI guy monitoring Fark.)
That's why.

/Not the FBI guy monitoring Fark.
 
2013-05-28 07:58:54 PM

SovietCanuckistan: hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach and othe rthings they do with tax dollars?

ALL white people are racists
professor compelled students in her graphic design class to create artwork opposing firearms on campus and opposing pro-gun legislation currently pending before the Texas state legislature. The professor then used the artwork students created online to publicize an anti-gun petition entitled


College Professor forced to students to sign pledge to vote for Obama

Democrats to force students to reveal their sexuality

WHAT PART OF EYE HERPES DID YOU NOT GET?


there are batshiat leftwing lunatics and batshiat rightwing lunatics.  pointing out that leftwing batshiat lunatics exist doesnt excuse the fact that rightwing batshiat lunatics are permitted to preach to captive audiences in public high schools.
 
2013-05-28 07:59:26 PM
www.charlock.org
 
2013-05-28 08:00:18 PM
According to the Bible, life begins when you start breathing, something that doesn't happen until you are born...

Genesis 2:7 - "Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being."

Job 33:4 -"The spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life."

Ezekiel 37: 5&6 - "Thus says the Lord God to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live. And I shall lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the Lord."
 
2013-05-28 08:03:14 PM

vudukungfu: Walter Paisley: Do you know if any of these events might have been recorded and available for purchase?

Sure. I lost my original CD for the Condom Machine blues. and a lot of die hard nerds offered to sell me a cassette tape of my own song.

As for the Marc Bolan pic.
You can tell what religion he is.


I was hoping for something more official, but bootlegs can sometimes be cool. I just wish audio bootleggers would work with the performer instead of profiting off of another's work. Do the people trying to sell you your own work realize how rude this is?
 
2013-05-28 08:07:32 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: kvinesknows: 1) tell them all masturbating themselves is not only okay its recomended by god2) how is this not a hot highschool girl thread?

Some of us are parents. Some of the parents here have children who are being lied to.
(And who would point you out to the FBI guy monitoring Fark.)
That's why.

/Not the FBI guy monitoring Fark.


Wait you're a parent? I don't know why I find that thought sorta scary.
/Sorry
 
2013-05-28 08:10:33 PM
murica. It's like the clowncar that keeps on giving.
 
2013-05-28 08:14:29 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: kvinesknows: 1) tell them all masturbating themselves is not only okay its recomended by god2) how is this not a hot highschool girl thread?

Some of us are parents. Some of the parents here have children who are being lied to.
(And who would point you out to the FBI guy monitoring Fark.)
That's why.
/Not the FBI guy monitoring Fark.

Wait you're a parent? I don't know why I find that thought sorta scary.
/Sorry


Not nearly as scary as I find it, Mags.
 
2013-05-28 08:20:54 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: kvinesknows: 1) tell them all masturbating themselves is not only okay its recomended by god2) how is this not a hot highschool girl thread?

Some of us are parents. Some of the parents here have children who are being lied to.
(And who would point you out to the FBI guy monitoring Fark.)
That's why.
/Not the FBI guy monitoring Fark.

Wait you're a parent? I don't know why I find that thought sorta scary.
/Sorry

Not nearly as scary as I find it, Mags.


I understand, and well my condolences. Although hey, I here some of them grow up to be okay people.
 
2013-05-28 08:21:52 PM

Fallout Boy: Eight partners? How is this relevant to me and the rest of Fark?


What if I have sex with an octopus? I mean, technically thats only one partner with 8 appendages and endless possibilties. Perhaps that makes its a classroom of ink instead of spit

/hot tentacle action
 
2013-05-28 08:24:13 PM

quellic: Fallout Boy: Eight partners? How is this relevant to me and the rest of Fark?

What if I have sex with an octopus? I mean, technically thats only one partner with 8 appendages and endless possibilties. Perhaps that makes its a classroom of ink instead of spit

/hot tentacle action


Are you the fisher mans wife?
 
2013-05-28 08:27:04 PM

Clemkadidlefark: (taxpayer dollars) says subby

Global Warming?
Electric cars?
Endless war?
Every bit of madness called 'education'?

... c'mon subs. 'Conservatives' have so far to climb up the tree of forbidden taxpayer fruit to warrant the "AND THEY'RE DOING IT WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS meme I'll be on my third reincarnation before 'conservatives' get to the break-even point with ProgLib's fleecing of America.


That makes literally no sense in at least 8 different ways. Is this a performance?
 
2013-05-28 08:28:21 PM

RexTalionis: FLMountainMan: Meh.  As far as disinformation taught in classrooms goes, none of that is even top ten.

Off to go get a smallpox blanket, which is difficult for me because white people have grossly inferior spatial intelligence and, not being Oriental, I lack excellent organizational skills.  Luckily I can afford it because the Laffer Curve grants me great wealth.  Which I already had because of white privilege.

1) The smallpox incident happened and is a part of American history and is not disinformation.

2) I don't know of any school that teaches that white people are mentally inferior to Asians

3) Regarding the Laffer curve and the white privilege thing, that's just dumb.


1) That's great, and you will almost never see it mentioned in public school pretty much ever.


 Which was the point.

 Public school hopefully teaches you literacy (sometimes?), basic math, and the knowledge that there are things like history, science, art, and music in existence out there. Anything else is gravy and you should consider yourself lucky.

 And if you're trying to make informative fact based decisions on your public school history book.... well about that.

/everyone realizes that much of what they learn in public school is crap.
//but if you were taught how to read, you'll be able to make up for it as an adult.
 
2013-05-28 08:29:01 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: kvinesknows: 1) tell them all masturbating themselves is not only okay its recomended by god2) how is this not a hot highschool girl thread?

Some of us are parents. Some of the parents here have children who are being lied to.
(And who would point you out to the FBI guy monitoring Fark.)
That's why.
/Not the FBI guy monitoring Fark.

Wait you're a parent? I don't know why I find that thought sorta scary.
/Sorry

Not nearly as scary as I find it, Mags.

I understand, and well my condolences. Although hey, I here some of them grow up to be okay people.


The kidettes are great. The responsibility for and to them can seem overwhelming. (So much so that I've been known to mutter a version of Shepard's Prayer on occasion.)
/As in I found being personally responsible and signed for CENSOREDred million in equipment far less daunting.
 
2013-05-28 08:29:51 PM
Oh, fark me. I feel dumber for having listened to that crap.

I tell my kids the truth: Sex feels good, but it hurts like hell emotionally if you do it when you are too young, or with the wrong person. There are risks, that can be mitigated, but never completely. If you decide to have sex with someone, please think it through first and make sure it's what YOU want, not the other person.

I also have taught my older daughters about different birth control options, how to use a condom, how NOT to use a condom (ie: storing it in a way that would lead to leaks or damage, not using teeth if you put it on with your mouth, making sure it is on the correct way before unrolling it, getting a new one if you touched the wrong side to the penis, etc.). I keep a fresh supply of condoms in the house, in the downstairs bathroom right beside the mudroom, where they could stop and get one and we'd never even know they came inside. I've explained that if they want to become sexually active, we need to go to the doctor and get a check-up and get birth control pills even if they use condoms.

I've taught them that mistakes happen, and you don't have to be ashamed of making one. And that love rarely lasts forever, but that is okay.

For my troubles, I have a 17 year old who came to me and openly talked to me about birth control, who ran into my room a few months ago to tell me she just had sex for the first time, and asked me questions about it, who is on birth control and is very open with me about what is going on. She had a break-up and the first thing she said after she finished sobbing was "I'm so glad I didn't think I was going to be with him forever".

My fourteen year old has been very open about her crushes and that she thinks she might prefer girls.

And my 12 year old son asks me questions about girls and biology and it not embarrassed to walk to the grocery store and pick up tampax for his sisters, so long as they give him $5 or drive him somewhere or some other consideration for his troubles.

The absolute bullshiat in this recording is just astounding. Kids don't respond to that. When I was a kid, we had some similarly craptacularly bad Xstian presentation about how our vaginas were like duct tape, and once you stuck the tape to something, it would hurt very badly to pull it off, and if you kept sticking it and ripping it off, it would eventually not stick anymore and we'd never find a man to love us. Oh, and AIDS is killing everybody and if you kiss you will get herpes and that if your breasts are fondled too much it can cause you to never feel your nipples again. (I only wish I was kidding). The abortion stuff was similar to this.

Thanks to that lovely presentation, and my mother's general inability to talk about anything like sex without making it a big production, I was very tight lipped about things and never asked questions. I just went to the health department after school and got birth control pills and condoms, and was regularly experiencing happy naked time with a wide assortment of male partners by the time I was 15.

I don't know why they can't just tell the kids that slutting it up is not the best idea, but if they decide it's worth the (accurately described) risk, here's how to go about it so you don't have to have the uncomfortable conversation with your doctor about why it burns when you pee.

Hell, show the kids pictures of a herpes outbreak, tell them the truth: that somewhere around 24% of people carry it and you never know who because many aren't symptomatic and it can be transmitted regardless of whether or not you see it/know about it, and that condoms suck at preventing it, but hey, here is what to look for before you allow that genitalia near yours or your mouth. I have a feeling that simple truth would be far more effective in getting them to think about what they are doing before hand than this complete and utter bullshiat.
 
2013-05-28 08:37:45 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: quellic: Fallout Boy: Eight partners? How is this relevant to me and the rest of Fark?

What if I have sex with an octopus? I mean, technically thats only one partner with 8 appendages and endless possibilties. Perhaps that makes its a classroom of ink instead of spit

/hot tentacle action

Are you the fisher mans wife?


I may have tripped and fell crotch first into the days catch.

/never looked back.
 
2013-05-28 08:38:51 PM

dywed88: Well, there is a difference in what she said is probably technically correct (as married couples probably have fewer partners on average), it is just taken out of context. But the overall effect is the same misleading BS.


"Technically correct" is the best kind of correct.

It is also key to effective disinformation.
 
2013-05-28 08:39:06 PM
Walter Paisley:   Do the people trying to sell you your own work realize how rude this is?

NO.
It doesn't really matter.
I have the original DAT tapes in the studio.
I have 12 more originals in the vault.

Soon...
 
2013-05-28 08:40:00 PM
Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

At the risk of feeding the troll, I'd like to point out that the medical definition of pregnancy is implantation of a fertilized egg. Approximately 50% of fertilized eggs do not implant, so they're clearly not that important valuable to nature/god/whoever you believe is making the decisions.
 
2013-05-28 08:40:10 PM

quellic: I may have tripped and fell crotch first into the days catch.


must have been a wet dream
 
2013-05-28 08:41:02 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: kvinesknows: 1) tell them all masturbating themselves is not only okay its recomended by god2) how is this not a hot highschool girl thread?

Some of us are parents. Some of the parents here have children who are being lied to.
(And who would point you out to the FBI guy monitoring Fark.)
That's why.
/Not the FBI guy monitoring Fark.

Wait you're a parent? I don't know why I find that thought sorta scary.
/Sorry

Not nearly as scary as I find it, Mags.

I understand, and well my condolences. Although hey, I here some of them grow up to be okay people.

The kidettes are great. The responsibility for and to them can seem overwhelming. (So much so that I've been known to mutter a version of Shepard's Prayer on occasion.)
/As in I found being personally responsible and signed for CENSOREDred million in equipment far less daunting.


It's all good, but I'm not bringing kids into this world, well mostly, I wouldn't put them through the possible mental illnesses they might end up with and well I could go on but well no.
 
2013-05-28 08:41:42 PM

quellic: tinfoil-hat maggie: quellic: Fallout Boy: Eight partners? How is this relevant to me and the rest of Fark?

What if I have sex with an octopus? I mean, technically thats only one partner with 8 appendages and endless possibilties. Perhaps that makes its a classroom of ink instead of spit

/hot tentacle action

Are you the fisher mans wife?

I may have tripped and fell crotch first into the days catch.

/never looked back.


LOL ; )
 
2013-05-28 08:44:53 PM

Molavian: fredklein: Irrelevant. We're discussing what a fetus IS, not what it might, possibly, one day become.

Bullsh*t.  It's as relevant as discussing options for euthanasia, based on what what someone might, possibly, one day become.


That is ridiculously relevant. Euthanasia laws are about quality of life. A healthy person who wants to live this year, may be near death and in constant pain next year. Someone who may one day become enfeebled may want to have the option for being euthanized some day, even if his life today is largely bad ass.
 
2013-05-28 08:45:59 PM

Phins: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

At the risk of feeding the troll, I'd like to point out that the medical definition of pregnancy is implantation of a fertilized egg. Approximately 50% of fertilized eggs do not implant, so they're clearly not that important valuable to nature/god/whoever you believe is making the decisions.


Exactly. It isn't a fetus at conception. It's a zygote. Then it becomes an embryo. And then it becomes a fetus. And I'm pretty sure the troll I'm likely feeding wouldn't recognize any product of conception in real life (not as laughably incorrectly illustrated and modeled by far right wing anti-abortion groups) until close to 16 or 17 weeks.

I have zero problems getting pregnant, but a hell of a time staying pregnant. Due to my screwed up cervix and inhospitable uterus, I have unfortunately had, and seen the results of, 9 miscarriages at various rates of development. And trust me, none of them were anywhere near being a baby, as sad as I was to lose that potential for life.
 
2013-05-28 08:47:18 PM

theorellior: scottydoesntknow: Works great for D.A.R.E.

Waitaminute here. Hold the phone. Are you telling me that if you take LSD you don't think you're an orange, and that if someone touches you you'll turn into orange juice?


That sounds like something some high school friends of mine would have experienced.  One time this car full of guys that are all trippin balls are sitting stopped on the freeway, and a cop pulls up behind them, and asks them why they are halted in the driving lane .. and the driver says "I can't drive THROUGH the plane, officer".  Yeah they all got taken in.
 
2013-05-28 08:47:39 PM

redslippers: Oh, fark me. I feel dumber for having listened to that crap.

I tell my kids the truth: Sex feels good, but it hurts like hell emotionally if you do it when you are too young, or with the wrong person. There are risks, that can be mitigated, but never completely. If you decide to have sex with someone, please think it through first and make sure it's what YOU want, not the other person.

I also have taught my older daughters about different birth control options, how to use a condom, how NOT to use a condom (ie: storing it in a way that would lead to leaks or damage, not using teeth if you put it on with your mouth, making sure it is on the correct way before unrolling it, getting a new one if you touched the wrong side to the penis, etc.). I keep a fresh supply of condoms in the house, in the downstairs bathroom right beside the mudroom, where they could stop and get one and we'd never even know they came inside. I've explained that if they want to become sexually active, we need to go to the doctor and get a check-up and get birth control pills even if they use condoms.

I've taught them that mistakes happen, and you don't have to be ashamed of making one. And that love rarely lasts forever, but that is okay.

For my troubles, I have a 17 year old who came to me and openly talked to me about birth control, who ran into my room a few months ago to tell me she just had sex for the first time, and asked me questions about it, who is on birth control and is very open with me about what is going on. She had a break-up and the first thing she said after she finished sobbing was "I'm so glad I didn't think I was going to be with him forever".

My fourteen year old has been very open about her crushes and that she thinks she might prefer girls.

And my 12 year old son asks me questions about girls and biology and it not embarrassed to walk to the grocery store and pick up tampax for his sisters, so long as they give him $5 or drive him somewhere or some other consideratio ...


I'm still trying to figure you out, no offense, but good on you for being honest with your kids. You may be way too serious for fark though but hey it's all good, it take all kinds.
 
2013-05-28 08:48:20 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: The kidettes are great. The responsibility for and to them can seem overwhelming. (So much so that I've been known to mutter a version of Shepard's Prayer on occasion.)
/As in I found being personally responsible and signed for CENSOREDred million in equipment far less daunting.

It's all good, but I'm not bringing kids into this world, well mostly, I wouldn't put them through the possible mental illnesses they might end up with and well I could go on but well no.


From my perspective, you haven't said or done anything you'd need to apologize for, Mags. From your discussion contributions, you want to leave the world a better place than you found it, and you want to enjoy the journey without harming others. Those are worthy goals.
 
2013-05-28 08:48:33 PM

Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: demarke: How often does an appendix sprout arms legs and a brain and pop out after nine months?

/That would be awesome if it were possible

It is possible. With a little help, of course, but it is possible. You remove the nucleus of an egg and take the deprogrammed egg (now lacking a nucleus and the nuclear DNA) and insert the nucleus from a cell removed from an appendix. The deprogrammed egg will take the appendix cell nucleus and reprogram it to repurpose the appendix cell nucleus into an egg cell nucleus. Give it a little shock and now it will start to divide.

This is how you create clones. This process is called a somatic cell nuclear transfer.

Has this finally passed into the realm of the actually possible as opposed to theoretically?
Last I heard it's still a bit too difficult.
It is something I have to consider in my overall positions, since I suspect that one day it's likely to work.
but I'm not sure what the implications would be, it would cause a lot of problems with how we presently identify individuals that's for damn sure.


As far as I understand it, the only technical limitation is the high failure rate. This is compounded with more complex organisms mor susceptible to failure. Dolly, for example, was the only one of nearly 300 cells to survive. (Thirty were implanted, 3 were born, and Dolly survived infancy).
 
2013-05-28 08:50:49 PM

Pocket Ninja: I'm not sure I understand the spit thing. Are we talking about drinking spit equivalent to an entire classroom (lets call that 25 people) spitting once into a bucket? Or are we talking about somehow draining all the spit from each person in the classroom, collecting that into some sort of spit trough, and drinking that? That's two entirely different prospects, right there, and I'd need to know which one I'm considering (as well as what the 8 people I'd be having sex with look like). There's always tradeoffs; sometimes they're worth it and sometimes they're not.


That's right, man. Life is full of choices.
 
2013-05-28 08:51:38 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: redslippers: Oh, fark me. I feel dumber for having listened to that crap.

I tell my kids the truth: Sex feels good, but it hurts like hell emotionally if you do it when you are too young, or with the wrong person. There are risks, that can be mitigated, but never completely. If you decide to have sex with someone, please think it through first and make sure it's what YOU want, not the other person.

I also have taught my older daughters about different birth control options, how to use a condom, how NOT to use a condom (ie: storing it in a way that would lead to leaks or damage, not using teeth if you put it on with your mouth, making sure it is on the correct way before unrolling it, getting a new one if you touched the wrong side to the penis, etc.). I keep a fresh supply of condoms in the house, in the downstairs bathroom right beside the mudroom, where they could stop and get one and we'd never even know they came inside. I've explained that if they want to become sexually active, we need to go to the doctor and get a check-up and get birth control pills even if they use condoms.

I've taught them that mistakes happen, and you don't have to be ashamed of making one. And that love rarely lasts forever, but that is okay.

For my troubles, I have a 17 year old who came to me and openly talked to me about birth control, who ran into my room a few months ago to tell me she just had sex for the first time, and asked me questions about it, who is on birth control and is very open with me about what is going on. She had a break-up and the first thing she said after she finished sobbing was "I'm so glad I didn't think I was going to be with him forever".

My fourteen year old has been very open about her crushes and that she thinks she might prefer girls.

And my 12 year old son asks me questions about girls and biology and it not embarrassed to walk to the grocery store and pick up tampax for his sisters, so long as they give him $5 or drive him somewhere or some other ...


I'm not too serious for fark. I just only post if I feel I have something of value to add, or occasionally, when a dumbass pisses me off. Most of the time I'm on my phone and that means I have to be motivated to bother.

I find your posts to be generally either intelligent (even if i disagree with them) or entertaining. So thanks for that.
 
2013-05-28 08:53:50 PM

RexTalionis: Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: demarke: How often does an appendix sprout arms legs and a brain and pop out after nine months?

/That would be awesome if it were possible

It is possible. With a little help, of course, but it is possible. You remove the nucleus of an egg and take the deprogrammed egg (now lacking a nucleus and the nuclear DNA) and insert the nucleus from a cell removed from an appendix. The deprogrammed egg will take the appendix cell nucleus and reprogram it to repurpose the appendix cell nucleus into an egg cell nucleus. Give it a little shock and now it will start to divide.

This is how you create clones. This process is called a somatic cell nuclear transfer.

Has this finally passed into the realm of the actually possible as opposed to theoretically?
Last I heard it's still a bit too difficult.
It is something I have to consider in my overall positions, since I suspect that one day it's likely to work.
but I'm not sure what the implications would be, it would cause a lot of problems with how we presently identify individuals that's for damn sure.

[www.roslin.ed.ac.uk image 523x618]

Remember Dolly the sheep? Yeah, that's done through somatic cell nuclear transfer. And that was almost 20 years ago.

I do remember Dolly, and some dogs and other animals, I seem to remember there were several issues (beyond just ethics) with making it work with primates.  The one lab to claim success on human cloning turned out to be a fraud (the Raellians or something)  and I admit to not following it much since.



This is Tetra. It is the first cloned primate (in 1999).


Not quite. While a type of clone, it is not somatic cell transfer and and the method could not result in a pacreatic cell becoming a person.

Rather than being a clone like Dolly, Tetra was effectively an artificially induced identical twin (they split one embryo into multiple).
 
2013-05-28 08:54:50 PM

BSABSVR: Molavian: fredklein: Irrelevant. We're discussing what a fetus IS, not what it might, possibly, one day become.

Bullsh*t.  It's as relevant as discussing options for euthanasia, based on what what someone might, possibly, one day become.

That is ridiculously relevant. Euthanasia laws are about quality of life. A healthy person who wants to live this year, may be near death and in constant pain next year. Someone who may one day become enfeebled may want to have the option for being euthanized some day, even if his life today is largely bad ass.


To clarify: nobody (largely) has any interest in killing infants, but many people are pro-choice. Nobody (largely) has any interest in killing middle aged people, but once life is no longer worth living, many people are pro choice on that as well.

Life is not the same over the continuum from gamete to last breath, and treating it all as precious is oversimplification.
 
2013-05-28 08:59:07 PM
Sometimes I wonder whether certain conservatives make a calculated decision to cause the government to display more incompetence/spread easily provable misinformation to make it easier to later paint all government as bad. I also wonder why the rest of us put up with it.
 
2013-05-28 09:00:04 PM

BSABSVR: BSABSVR: Molavian: fredklein: Irrelevant. We're discussing what a fetus IS, not what it might, possibly, one day become.

Bullsh*t.  It's as relevant as discussing options for euthanasia, based on what what someone might, possibly, one day become.

That is ridiculously relevant. Euthanasia laws are about quality of life. A healthy person who wants to live this year, may be near death and in constant pain next year. Someone who may one day become enfeebled may want to have the option for being euthanized some day, even if his life today is largely bad ass.

To clarify: nobody (largely) has any interest in killing infants, but many people are pro-choice. Nobody (largely) has any interest in killing middle aged people, but once life is no longer worth living, many people are pro choice on that as well.

Life is not the same over the continuum from gamete to last breath, and treating it all as precious is oversimplification.


I look at it like this: A woman has a right to choose what goes on in her body, up until the point of true viability. The baby has a right to live, from the point of viability until a time of it's choosing. Your body, your choice. You want an abortion? So long as that fetus hasn't reached a point where it can easily survive outside the womb without long term issues (that seems to be somewhere between 24 and 30 weeks, depending on the expert - and I have ZERO desire to argue that point), go for it. After that, as soon as that infant becomes an adult, it can choose to end it's own life if circumstances arise that make that a reasonable option (terminal illness, etc.). Seems like a reasonable approach to me.
 
2013-05-28 09:00:51 PM
This hasn't been sufficiently addressed - the reason conservatives lie is because most of them are Christians, and conservative Christians have no morality or ethics that doesn't come from the bible. (As can be gleaned from their insistence that atheists can't have any morality or ethics.) And the bible says it's okay to lie if it benefits God. Since they also like to ignore parts of the bible they disagree with, they ignore the "fill the Earth" part of "multiply and fill the Earth" (Earth's been overpopulated for awhile now.) Thus, any lies that keep kids from using birth control is good in God's eyes.
 
2013-05-28 09:02:17 PM

redslippers: So long as that fetus hasn't reached a point where it can easily survive outside the womb without long term issues


No womb.
 No vote;
 
2013-05-28 09:02:29 PM
 
2013-05-28 09:04:03 PM

vudukungfu: redslippers: So long as that fetus hasn't reached a point where it can easily survive outside the womb without long term issues

No womb.
 No vote;


Agreed. Then again, I think we should have to get licenses to vote. I think having to pass a derp test to make sure you aren't an extreme moron (regardless of side) would fix a lot of our issues.
 
2013-05-28 09:04:47 PM

druiid: Potter82: Wait, I don't understand the spit thing. Sex with 8 partners is the equivalent of drinking a whole classroom's spit? In what way? Are you taking about volume of fluid expended or health risk? How would you even measure this? How could that even be a study? This comparison is so incoherent that my brain is hurting from trying to make sense of it.

Also the whole the pill isn't 100% because I had a friend who got pregnant 3 times while on the pill argument is just bull. Statistically that's next to impossible. I don't think her friend knew how to use birth control. Also nothing says persuasive like an unverifiable anecdotes!! My best friend is the smartest guy in the world and he always says anecdotes beat actual evidence all the time!

I could do this all day. I wish I were in a Q&A session with this person, I probably would've been kicked out for asking too many questions and questioning her authorita.

/Kids are stupid but not stupid enough to believe this bull
//I'm amazed that these people haven't Darwined themselves out of existence yet. The social conservatives have gone full retard.

Well, the pill like condoms are not totally fail-proof. I did in fact have a friend become pregnant on the pill (and their daughter is now approaching a year old). So, it does happen, it's just very very rare and not really a realistic argument for abstinence only programs to make.


Of course, the majority of those failures (for both the pill and condoms) are human error. Which can be decreased by proper education rather than this schtick.

I will say this, they had one point right, if someone won't have an abortion to end an unwanted pregnancy, by all means don't discourage adoption and make sure she knows it is an option and people will not look down on her for it.
 
2013-05-28 09:05:45 PM

redslippers: I find your posts to be generally either intelligent (even if i disagree with them) or entertaining. So thanks for that.


Hmm, now you have me wondering when I have ever been intelligent or entertaining.
/LoL, just joking, well sorta
//Oh, and good on you for bringing your kids up right.
 
2013-05-28 09:05:51 PM

ekdikeo4: theorellior: scottydoesntknow: Works great for D.A.R.E.

Waitaminute here. Hold the phone. Are you telling me that if you take LSD you don't think you're an orange, and that if someone touches you you'll turn into orange juice?

That sounds like something some high school friends of mine would have experienced.  One time this car full of guys that are all trippin balls are sitting stopped on the freeway, and a cop pulls up behind them, and asks them why they are halted in the driving lane .. and the driver says "I can't drive THROUGH the plane, officer".  Yeah they all got taken in.


A friend of mine was at a defensive driving course and one of the other guys was there because he was tripping on acid while he was driving and was sure that there wasn't really a refrigerator in the freeway. There was.
 
2013-05-28 09:08:52 PM

dywed88: druiid: Potter82: Wait, I don't understand the spit thing. Sex with 8 partners is the equivalent of drinking a whole classroom's spit? In what way? Are you taking about volume of fluid expended or health risk? How would you even measure this? How could that even be a study? This comparison is so incoherent that my brain is hurting from trying to make sense of it.

Also the whole the pill isn't 100% because I had a friend who got pregnant 3 times while on the pill argument is just bull. Statistically that's next to impossible. I don't think her friend knew how to use birth control. Also nothing says persuasive like an unverifiable anecdotes!! My best friend is the smartest guy in the world and he always says anecdotes beat actual evidence all the time!

I could do this all day. I wish I were in a Q&A session with this person, I probably would've been kicked out for asking too many questions and questioning her authorita.

/Kids are stupid but not stupid enough to believe this bull
//I'm amazed that these people haven't Darwined themselves out of existence yet. The social conservatives have gone full retard.

Well, the pill like condoms are not totally fail-proof. I did in fact have a friend become pregnant on the pill (and their daughter is now approaching a year old). So, it does happen, it's just very very rare and not really a realistic argument for abstinence only programs to make.

Of course, the majority of those failures (for both the pill and condoms) are human error. Which can be decreased by proper education rather than this schtick.

I will say this, they had one point right, if someone won't have an abortion to end an unwanted pregnancy, by all means don't discourage adoption and make sure she knows it is an option and people will not look down on her for it.


I just went and go the paper insert from my daughter's pills. It says that the pill is 97% effective with "perfect use" and 74% effective with "typical use". So, for what it is worth, 26 women out of 100 who are sexually active and taking the pill the way normal people do will get pregnant in a given year while on the pill.

/I didn't make that up. That is what the literature says that came in the pill box.
 
2013-05-28 09:10:23 PM

redslippers: I think having to pass a derp test to make sure you aren't an extreme moron (regardless of side) would fix a lot of our issues.


If you have an invisible friend pulling the lever...
disqualified t vote or own a gun.

np, here.
 
2013-05-28 09:11:02 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: redslippers: I find your posts to be generally either intelligent (even if i disagree with them) or entertaining. So thanks for that.

Hmm, now you have me wondering when I have ever been intelligent or entertaining.
/LoL, just joking, well sorta
//Oh, and good on you for bringing your kids up right.


Thanks. I try. I'm sure I fark enough up that they will need therapy, but I give it my all anyway.
 
2013-05-28 09:12:05 PM

vudukungfu: redslippers: I think having to pass a derp test to make sure you aren't an extreme moron (regardless of side) would fix a lot of our issues.

If you have an invisible friend pulling the lever...
disqualified t vote or own a gun.

np, here.


lol, I think it is okay if they believe in G-d, But I draw the line at thinking that Jesus rode a Triceratops.
 
2013-05-28 09:15:19 PM

redslippers: vudukungfu: redslippers: I think having to pass a derp test to make sure you aren't an extreme moron (regardless of side) would fix a lot of our issues.

If you have an invisible friend pulling the lever...
disqualified t vote or own a gun.

np, here.

lol, I think it is okay if they believe in G-d, But I draw the line at thinking that Jesus rode a Triceratops.


I should clarify: I'm Jewish, and our people seem to do just fine at not being stupid while religious,

/I personally am far from religious, but it doesn't scare me to know that rabbis vote.
//On the other hand, it scares the crap out of me to know that evangelicals exist and further their species, much less vote.
 
2013-05-28 09:21:53 PM

redslippers: I should clarify: I'm Jewish, and our people seem to do just fine at not being stupid while religious,*

/I personally am far from religious, but it doesn't scare me to know that rabbis vote.
//On the other hand, it scares the crap out of me to know that evangelicals exist and further their species, much less vote.


*[Insert mandatory legalese disclaimer here.]

C'mon, we have our share of asshat fundies, too.
 
2013-05-28 09:25:46 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: redslippers: I should clarify: I'm Jewish, and our people seem to do just fine at not being stupid while religious,*

/I personally am far from religious, but it doesn't scare me to know that rabbis vote.
//On the other hand, it scares the crap out of me to know that evangelicals exist and further their species, much less vote.

*[Insert mandatory legalese disclaimer here.]

C'mon, we have our share of asshat fundies, too.


Yes, but we hide ours far better, and our share is a hell of a lot smaller due to the tiny proportion of the population we make up.
 
2013-05-28 09:28:00 PM
It's funny how many people here take every single post they read as if it was 100% serious. Are all of you new?
 
2013-05-28 09:29:49 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: redslippers: I should clarify: I'm Jewish, and our people seem to do just fine at not being stupid while religious,*

/I personally am far from religious, but it doesn't scare me to know that rabbis vote.
//On the other hand, it scares the crap out of me to know that evangelicals exist and further their species, much less vote.

*[Insert mandatory legalese disclaimer here.]

C'mon, we have our share of asshat fundies, too.


Wait a minute now, you're jewish as well as have kidlings?.
/Learning so much from this thread.
// Oh and as a non-denominational bisexual pagan heathen I have no problem with this.
///Although Bacchus is sorta cool ; )
 
2013-05-28 09:32:41 PM

Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.



Wow, you're just full retard aren't you?

How's that feel? I  mean to be so dumb you don't know up from down.

I would think it would be fun and an easy way to go through life. Just please don't reproduce.

Idiot.
 
2013-05-28 09:33:55 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: redslippers: I should clarify: I'm Jewish, and our people seem to do just fine at not being stupid while religious,*

/I personally am far from religious, but it doesn't scare me to know that rabbis vote.
//On the other hand, it scares the crap out of me to know that evangelicals exist and further their species, much less vote.

*[Insert mandatory legalese disclaimer here.]

C'mon, we have our share of asshat fundies, too.

Wait a minute now, you're jewish as well as have kidlings?.
/Learning so much from this thread.
// Oh and as a non-denominational bisexual pagan heathen I have no problem with this.
///Although Bacchus is sorta cool ; )


Yes. I am Jewish, with five kidlets (or as I refer to them, minions). My youngest if four, my oldest if 17. My husband is Lutheran. I was raised in south Georgia, which isn't much fun when you are a Jew. Some of the honest to goodness questions I got growing up: "Jewish, is that kinda like Cath'lic?" "Why don't you wear a cross? They're so purdy" and my personal favorites (it's a tie) "I know you're Jew-ish, but where do you go to church?" and "But Jesus WAS a Jew. How can you not love Jesus? He was one of your people!".

/defying sterotypes: it's my day job.
 
2013-05-28 09:33:56 PM
Not gonna read comments. Article is a bullshiat screed against not sucking off every Dick in a three mile radius. If you are stupid enough to think that free love still applies with the current court system and aids still kickin it then you are retarded and deserve to die.

And yes ladies, I'm single, put my cock in your moth you retarded sluts.

Y'all do realise that you can be rendered infertile by non detectable sti's right? This isn't crazy, just basic farking science dipshiats. Have fun with the herpes whores.

This applies to all gender identifications equally, because fark you.
 
2013-05-28 09:40:33 PM

knowless: Not gonna read comments. Article is a bullshiat screed against not sucking off every Dick in a three mile radius. If you are stupid enough to think that free love still applies with the current court system and aids still kickin it then you are retarded and deserve to die.

And yes ladies, I'm single, put my cock in your moth you retarded sluts.

Y'all do realise that you can be rendered infertile by non detectable sti's right? This isn't crazy, just basic farking science dipshiats. Have fun with the herpes whores.

This applies to all gender identifications equally, because fark you.


Yes, my moth biatch.
 
2013-05-28 09:41:54 PM

redslippers: demaL-demaL-yeH: redslippers: I should clarify: I'm Jewish, and our people seem to do just fine at not being stupid while religious,*
/I personally am far from religious, but it doesn't scare me to know that rabbis vote.
//On the other hand, it scares the crap out of me to know that evangelicals exist and further their species, much less vote.

*[Insert mandatory legalese disclaimer here.]
C'mon, we have our share of asshat fundies, too.

Yes, but we hide ours far better, and our share is a hell of a lot smaller due to the tiny proportion of the population we make up.


They tend to grab far more than their fair share of press, though.
/Sometimes seems to be in as similar a disproportion as Nobel laureates.
// כל ישראל ערבים זה לזה
 
2013-05-28 09:44:07 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: כל ישראל ערבים זה לזה


I know, but it is kind of hard to be responsible for the ultra-orthodox when they think I am evil incarnate because I eat cheeseburgers and married a gentile.
 
2013-05-28 09:47:18 PM

cuzsis: Public school hopefully teaches you literacy (sometimes?), basic math, and the knowledge that there are things like history, science, art, and music in existence out there. Anything else is gravy and you should consider yourself lucky.


Then you have an awful school system. School teaches children many things, many of which are not even in a curriculum, such as social skills. Teaching children about sex is very important and most people aren't exactly qualified to do so in a proper fashion (and the people in this article and prime examples). And this is a subject that will dramatically affect people's lives. That is why it should be taught in schools and before most of them start doing it anyways.

redslippers: I just went and go the paper insert from my daughter's pills. It says that the pill is 97% effective with "perfect use" and 74% effective with "typical use". So, for what it is worth, 26 women out of 100 who are sexually active and taking the pill the way normal people do will get pregnant in a given year while on the pill.

/I didn't make that up. That is what the literature says that came in the pill box.


I would question those numbers as the statistics I have seen put it around 8-9% and 0.3%, but that perfectly illustrates why this kind of education is needed and reinforce the risks even with protection. That said there are a number of different pills and your daughter's situation could change which is best for her.
To get that "typical use" as close to "perfect use" as humanly possible. And to make sure they double up with condoms. Combined use of the most common pills and standard condoms has a failure rate of 1.4% with typical usage and 0.009% with perfect usage. And there are a number of options more effective than the pill, especially implants and IUD as they pretty much eliminate human error of the user as a risk factor. But they have their own issues.Unfortunately males don't have a lot of non-permanent options, so a lot of this does fall on the woman. Plus you want to use the condom anyway for the STD protection even if the woman is taking the pill. And let's not forget to make sure they are aware of options should they think something went wrong with the primary methods.
 
2013-05-28 09:52:42 PM

redslippers: demaL-demaL-yeH: כל ישראל ערבים זה לזה

I know, but it is kind of hard to be responsible for the ultra-orthodox when they think I am evil incarnate because I eat cheeseburgers and married a gentile.


Do you ever remind them how many millennia we've operated on the principle of "Mommy's baby. Daddy's? Maybe."?
There are so few of us as is to try to pull that nonsense.
/I'll pass on the treif.
 
2013-05-28 09:54:41 PM

knowless: Not gonna read comments. Article is a bullshiat screed against not sucking off every Dick in a three mile radius. If you are stupid enough to think that free love still applies with the current court system and aids still kickin it then you are retarded and deserve to die.

And yes ladies, I'm single, put my cock in your moth you retarded sluts.

Y'all do realise that you can be rendered infertile by non detectable sti's right? This isn't crazy, just basic farking science dipshiats. Have fun with the herpes whores.

This applies to all gender identifications equally, because fark you.

********

You are so far outside of reality, and decency I am truly concerned for your neighborhood.  Seriously.  If you are not trolling, you are dangerous.

 
2013-05-28 09:55:19 PM
""Again, we're getting the medical, factual information that comes straight from the health textbook and other sources," Wasill said.


"Other sources" = Her rectum.
 
2013-05-28 09:55:35 PM

redslippers: tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: redslippers: I should clarify: I'm Jewish, and our people seem to do just fine at not being stupid while religious,*

/I personally am far from religious, but it doesn't scare me to know that rabbis vote.
//On the other hand, it scares the crap out of me to know that evangelicals exist and further their species, much less vote.

*[Insert mandatory legalese disclaimer here.]

C'mon, we have our share of asshat fundies, too.

Wait a minute now, you're jewish as well as have kidlings?.
/Learning so much from this thread.
// Oh and as a non-denominational bisexual pagan heathen I have no problem with this.
///Although Bacchus is sorta cool ; )

Yes. I am Jewish, with five kidlets (or as I refer to them, minions). My youngest if four, my oldest if 17. My husband is Lutheran. I was raised in south Georgia, which isn't much fun when you are a Jew. Some of the honest to goodness questions I got growing up: "Jewish, is that kinda like Cath'lic?" "Why don't you wear a cross? They're so purdy" and my personal favorites (it's a tie) "I know you're Jew-ish, but where do you go to church?" and "But Jesus WAS a Jew. How can you not love Jesus? He was one of your people!".

/defying sterotypes: it's my day job.


Wait, you're telling me I could have gotten minions, hmm, oh well to late now. And well as someone that grew up in Baptist land I feel your pain, granted was raised Methodist where all you had to do is show up on Sunday, don't confuse that with Free Methodist that believe in the laying on of hands thing. Mother was raised Church of Christ where she learned everyone not one of them would go to hell, well thankfully she gave that up.

Truthfully I believe Jesus would of been more likely to say we are all children of god so let's be nice to one another. And if you read the Gnostic stuff that's basically what he said.
/Anyway no problem with any religious beliefs till they get passed into legislation.
 
2013-05-28 09:57:50 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: redslippers: demaL-demaL-yeH: כל ישראל ערבים זה לזה

I know, but it is kind of hard to be responsible for the ultra-orthodox when they think I am evil incarnate because I eat cheeseburgers and married a gentile.

Do you ever remind them how many millennia we've operated on the principle of "Mommy's baby. Daddy's? Maybe."?
There are so few of us as is to try to pull that nonsense.
/I'll pass on the treif.


I don't bother. My kids are raised reform. My family loves my husband. My rabbi is cool with it. The treasurer of our temple is openly agnostic, so I feel comfortable there. I don't really worry about the judgment of those who think themselves my betters, as they are generally wrong. Moral superiority is an oxymoron.

/My oldest is getting ready to do birthright. She is very excited. She told me she's more excited to go to Israel than to get a car (which makes me very proud of her).
 
2013-05-28 09:59:26 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: redslippers: tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: redslippers: I should clarify: I'm Jewish, and our people seem to do just fine at not being stupid while religious,*

/I personally am far from religious, but it doesn't scare me to know that rabbis vote.
//On the other hand, it scares the crap out of me to know that evangelicals exist and further their species, much less vote.

*[Insert mandatory legalese disclaimer here.]

C'mon, we have our share of asshat fundies, too.

Wait a minute now, you're jewish as well as have kidlings?.
/Learning so much from this thread.
// Oh and as a non-denominational bisexual pagan heathen I have no problem with this.
///Although Bacchus is sorta cool ; )

Yes. I am Jewish, with five kidlets (or as I refer to them, minions). My youngest if four, my oldest if 17. My husband is Lutheran. I was raised in south Georgia, which isn't much fun when you are a Jew. Some of the honest to goodness questions I got growing up: "Jewish, is that kinda like Cath'lic?" "Why don't you wear a cross? They're so purdy" and my personal favorites (it's a tie) "I know you're Jew-ish, but where do you go to church?" and "But Jesus WAS a Jew. How can you not love Jesus? He was one of your people!".

/defying sterotypes: it's my day job.

Wait, you're telling me I could have gotten minions, hmm, oh well to late now. And well as someone that grew up in Baptist land I feel your pain, granted was raised Methodist where all you had to do is show up on Sunday, don't confuse that with Free Methodist that believe in the laying on of hands thing. Mother was raised Church of Christ where she learned everyone not one of them would go to hell, well thankfully she gave that up.

Truthfully I believe Jesus would of been more likely to say we are all children of god so let's be nice to one another. And if you read the Gnostic stuff that's basically what he said.
/Anyway no problem with any religious beliefs till they get passed into legislation.


Don't be so bummed. My minions are hard to train.
 
2013-05-28 10:01:08 PM
Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

Little known truth:  If you use ALL CAPS when referring to a *Fact*, that is all that is needed to make it true.   It must be, otherwise people wouldnt continue to use the tactic, coupled with not providing any real facts to support their point what-so-ever.
 
2013-05-28 10:08:54 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Wait a minute now, you're jewish as well as have kidlings?.
/Learning so much from this thread.
// Oh and as a non-denominational bisexual pagan heathen I have no problem with this.
///Although Bacchus is sorta cool ; )


My fark handle is my name - הלל. (Hebrew goes right-to-left.)
 
2013-05-28 10:10:22 PM

redslippers: Don't be so bummed. My minions are hard to train.


I'm sure, and another good reason why I left that to people who wanted to put in the time and investment.
 
2013-05-28 10:12:41 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: Wait a minute now, you're jewish as well as have kidlings?.
/Learning so much from this thread.
// Oh and as a non-denominational bisexual pagan heathen I have no problem with this.
///Although Bacchus is sorta cool ; )

My fark handle is my name - הלל. (Hebrew goes right-to-left.)


Stop trying to make me learn stuff ; )
/Granted I did not know that.
 
2013-05-28 10:16:56 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: Wait a minute now, you're jewish as well as have kidlings?.
/Learning so much from this thread.
// Oh and as a non-denominational bisexual pagan heathen I have no problem with this.
///Although Bacchus is sorta cool ; )

My fark handle is my name - הלל. (Hebrew goes right-to-left.)

Stop trying to make me learn stuff ; )
/Granted I did not know that.


lol. Learn, Maggie. Learn.
 
2013-05-28 10:17:11 PM

hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach and othe rthings they do with tax dollars?

ALL white people are racists
professor compelled students in her graphic design class to create artwork opposing firearms on campus and opposing pro-gun legislation currently pending before the Texas state legislature. The professor then used the artwork students created online to publicize an anti-gun petition entitled


College Professor forced to students to sign pledge to vote for Obama

Democrats to force students to reveal their sexuality


You know you should learn from the shiat and quitters like tenpoundsofderp.  Quit while people think you're only marginally retarded.
 
2013-05-28 10:30:09 PM

theorellior: not_an_indigo: You must be new here.

Nope, long-lived drive-by troll. Been around for years.


Are all Founding Farkers long-lived trolls, or just the pro-life ones?


/Founding Farker = account number
 
2013-05-28 10:38:35 PM

redslippers: tinfoil-hat maggie: demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: Wait a minute now, you're jewish as well as have kidlings?.
/Learning so much from this thread.
// Oh and as a non-denominational bisexual pagan heathen I have no problem with this.
///Although Bacchus is sorta cool ; )

My fark handle is my name - הלל. (Hebrew goes right-to-left.)

Stop trying to make me learn stuff ; )
/Granted I did not know that.

lol. Learn, Maggie. Learn.


Oh, no you're not going to confuse me.
I know it was Azron the demon prince that died to save mankind from hate , and was later reborn because of some naked sisters dancing
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com.
Oh we also have cats because of his bet with another demon prince that mankind couldn't love snakes : )
 
2013-05-28 10:44:03 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Oh, no you're not going to confuse me.
I know it was Azron the demon prince that died to save mankind from hate , and was later reborn because of some naked sisters dancing
.
Oh we also have cats because of his bet with another demon prince that mankind couldn't love snakes : )


Now I'm laughing. Tanith Lee I've read, but not in a long time.
 
2013-05-28 11:01:08 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: tinfoil-hat maggie: Oh, no you're not going to confuse me.
I know it was Azron the demon prince that died to save mankind from hate , and was later reborn because of some naked sisters dancing
.
Oh we also have cats because of his bet with another demon prince that mankind couldn't love snakes : )

Now I'm laughing. Tanith Lee I've read, but not in a long time.


Oh, I love everything of hers I've read, unfortunately, I don't still have a copy of Tales from the Flat Earth right now.
 
2013-05-28 11:01:09 PM
My favorite part of that website was the annoying ass ad that when I clicked the "x" to terminate it dropped the whole farking article. Sheesh.
 
2013-05-28 11:07:01 PM
Wife was telling me this weekend that she remembered being forced to watch an abortion video, so I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/Her Freshman year in High School
//In Texas
///In 1999
 
2013-05-28 11:14:16 PM

star_topology: Wife was telling me this weekend that she remembered being forced to watch an abortion video, so I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/Her Freshman year in High School
//In Texas
///In 1999


As long as they made her watch teenagers giving birth videos, too.
/And at least one C-section.
//Nothing after delivery, though. That would be obscene.
 
2013-05-28 11:33:11 PM

gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.


Great point.  I so much prefer liberals' "if it feels good, do it" message.  That's so much more inspiring and non judgemental and easy.
 
2013-05-28 11:44:13 PM
Is the it a classroom full of supermodels?  If so then I am OK with it.
 
2013-05-28 11:57:20 PM
look, subby,.just because you dont want to think of  yourself having drunk 1/8 of a classes spit dont take it out on the conservatives.

besides, I dont think having sex with yourself counts, so  0/8.  You are solid.
 
2013-05-29 12:05:39 AM
Have there been any peer reviewed scientific studies completed about this phenomenon?

It could be important!
 
2013-05-29 12:08:21 AM

fusillade762: fredklein: Sticky Hands: RexTalionis: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

A fertilized egg is not a foetus, nor is it a child.

True, but if it survives it will become one and then the other.
It's not going to become bread or a piggy or a tomato tree or a BLT.

That makes it human. That does not make it a Human.
A skin cell, given the right conditions (say, a cloning lab), can become a fetus, and a child. But that does not mean every skin cell IS a child.

Correct. My appendix is human but nobody cries MURDER! if I have it removed.


Your appendix will never develop into offspring.
 
2013-05-29 12:11:08 AM

MrHelpful: gweilo8888: OK, guys, we need to pick our battles here. If Republicans want to scare their kids into not having sex, that's a good thing. Less Republican brats having sex means less knocked-up Republicans. Less knocked-up Republicans means less baby Republicans. Less baby Republicans means fewer Republicans in the next generation. It's Darwin at work, and best of all, they clearly don't understand a word of it.

If we let them keep this up, I give it a few generations until Republicans are extinct as the Dodo, and just as culturally relevant.

Great point.  I so much prefer liberals' "if it feels good, do it" message.  That's so much more inspiring and non judgemental and easy.


Because that is what everyone in the thread is saying.

God forbid we teach them about it and how to do it safely without making up crap that invalidates everything else they hear not from their friends.

Teenagers are going to have sex. Whether you want to believe it or not, the vast majority of people will have sex before marriage and most will have sex while in high school. And there is nothing you can do to stop this.
 
2013-05-29 12:16:37 AM

Jim_Callahan: NutWrench: Life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous, ongoing process.

Well, the criteria for being a living organism inculde capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction.

The capacity for reproduction doesn't occur until fairly late in fetal development.  While they're part of the larger ongoing process of capital-L life, an early fetus is not, itself, technically a living organism.


If it can gain the ability through it's normal course of development it does.

If you are an adult, then you are not currently growing, and therefore not alive.
 
2013-05-29 12:30:14 AM

RedVentrue: Jim_Callahan: NutWrench: Life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous, ongoing process.

Well, the criteria for being a living organism inculde capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction.

The capacity for reproduction doesn't occur until fairly late in fetal development.  While they're part of the larger ongoing process of capital-L life, an early fetus is not, itself, technically a living organism.

If it can gain the ability through it's normal course of development it does.

If you are an adult, then you are not currently growing, and therefore not alive.


That's the reason I refuse to eat pecans. They will eventually develop into trees, therefore they are already trees. You can't eat trees, that would be crazy.
 
2013-05-29 12:38:27 AM

Bandito King: RedVentrue: Jim_Callahan: NutWrench: Life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous, ongoing process.

Well, the criteria for being a living organism inculde capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction.

The capacity for reproduction doesn't occur until fairly late in fetal development.  While they're part of the larger ongoing process of capital-L life, an early fetus is not, itself, technically a living organism.

If it can gain the ability through it's normal course of development it does.

If you are an adult, then you are not currently growing, and therefore not alive.

That's the reason I refuse to eat pecans. They will eventually develop into trees, therefore they are already trees. You can't eat trees, that would be crazy.


I eat trees. Heat of palm is yummy. I also use them to smoke other food.

I don't eat human fetus, though.
 
2013-05-29 12:52:51 AM

RedVentrue: Bandito King: RedVentrue: Jim_Callahan: NutWrench: Life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous, ongoing process.

Well, the criteria for being a living organism inculde capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction.

The capacity for reproduction doesn't occur until fairly late in fetal development.  While they're part of the larger ongoing process of capital-L life, an early fetus is not, itself, technically a living organism.

If it can gain the ability through it's normal course of development it does.

If you are an adult, then you are not currently growing, and therefore not alive.

That's the reason I refuse to eat pecans. They will eventually develop into trees, therefore they are already trees. You can't eat trees, that would be crazy.

I eat trees. Heat of palm is yummy. I also use them to smoke other food.

I don't eat human fetus, though.


So you haven't tried the new Soylent Pink?
 
2013-05-29 01:01:47 AM

2farknfunny: RedVentrue: Bandito King: RedVentrue: Jim_Callahan: NutWrench: Life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous, ongoing process.

Well, the criteria for being a living organism inculde capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction.

The capacity for reproduction doesn't occur until fairly late in fetal development.  While they're part of the larger ongoing process of capital-L life, an early fetus is not, itself, technically a living organism.

If it can gain the ability through it's normal course of development it does.

If you are an adult, then you are not currently growing, and therefore not alive.

That's the reason I refuse to eat pecans. They will eventually develop into trees, therefore they are already trees. You can't eat trees, that would be crazy.

I eat trees. Heat of palm is yummy. I also use them to smoke other food.

I don't eat human fetus, though.

So you haven't tried the new Soylent Pink?


I heard it was overrated, and it looked unappetizing. What's your critique?
 
2013-05-29 01:04:28 AM

RedVentrue: 2farknfunny: RedVentrue: Bandito King: RedVentrue: Jim_Callahan: NutWrench: Life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous, ongoing process.

Well, the criteria for being a living organism inculde capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction.

The capacity for reproduction doesn't occur until fairly late in fetal development.  While they're part of the larger ongoing process of capital-L life, an early fetus is not, itself, technically a living organism.

If it can gain the ability through it's normal course of development it does.

If you are an adult, then you are not currently growing, and therefore not alive.

That's the reason I refuse to eat pecans. They will eventually develop into trees, therefore they are already trees. You can't eat trees, that would be crazy.

I eat trees. Heat of palm is yummy. I also use them to smoke other food.

I don't eat human fetus, though.

So you haven't tried the new Soylent Pink?

I heard it was overrated, and it looked unappetizing. What's your critique?


Went down smooth as a um, well, it was smooth.
 
2013-05-29 01:31:24 AM

redslippers: I look at it like this: A woman has a right to choose what goes on in her body, up until the point of true viability. The baby has a right to live, from the point of viability until a time of it's choosing. Your body, your choice. You want an abortion? So long as that fetus hasn't reached a point where it can easily survive outside the womb without long term issues (that seems to be somewhere between 24 and 30 weeks, depending on the expert - and I have ZERO desire to argue that point), go for it. After that, as soon as that infant becomes an adult, it can choose to end it's own life if circumstances arise that make that a reasonable option (terminal illness, etc.). Seems like a reasonable approach to me.


I'm pretty much on that page.
 
2013-05-29 01:44:02 AM
A Tennessee Department of Health spokeswoman said the agency's staff is unaware of the discovery of a new STD as deadly as AIDS. Wasill said she was referring to recent reports of a drug-resistant strain of gonorrhea.

Golf clap
 
2013-05-29 02:18:03 AM

RedVentrue: Bandito King: RedVentrue: Jim_Callahan: NutWrench: Life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous, ongoing process.

Well, the criteria for being a living organism inculde capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction.

The capacity for reproduction doesn't occur until fairly late in fetal development.  While they're part of the larger ongoing process of capital-L life, an early fetus is not, itself, technically a living organism.

If it can gain the ability through it's normal course of development it does.

If you are an adult, then you are not currently growing, and therefore not alive.

That's the reason I refuse to eat pecans. They will eventually develop into trees, therefore they are already trees. You can't eat trees, that would be crazy.

I eat trees. Heat of palm is yummy. I also use them to smoke other food.

I don't eat human fetus, though.


And I don't abort nuts. I just wish nuts wouldn't be so concerned about abortion.
 
2013-05-29 02:33:25 AM
I've recently come to the conclusion that school districts, state government, or individual schools (whichever is appropriate) should be held liable for child support for every pregnant teenager who's sex education was predominately abortion only due the policies in practice.

While it is the teen's choice to have sex or not to have sex, it is because of these policies that they are denied accurate, relevant information to make any kind of rational decision. And that is absolutely the fault of the people who draft and enforce these policies.

I daresay abstinence-only presenters come dangerously close to comitting outright, legal fraud with their willful misrepresentation of reality in order to make money, without any kind of "for entertainment purposes only" disclaimer.
 
2013-05-29 02:36:24 AM

Bane of Broone: As someone who is currently having sex with three partners I'm getting a kick....


/Me, myself, and I


Plugs one, two and three say hi.
www.washingtonpost.com
 
2013-05-29 02:50:18 AM

Bandito King: RedVentrue: Bandito King: RedVentrue: Jim_Callahan: NutWrench: Life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous, ongoing process.

Well, the criteria for being a living organism inculde capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction.

The capacity for reproduction doesn't occur until fairly late in fetal development.  While they're part of the larger ongoing process of capital-L life, an early fetus is not, itself, technically a living organism.

If it can gain the ability through it's normal course of development it does.

If you are an adult, then you are not currently growing, and therefore not alive.

That's the reason I refuse to eat pecans. They will eventually develop into trees, therefore they are already trees. You can't eat trees, that would be crazy.

I eat trees. Heat of palm is yummy. I also use them to smoke other food.

I don't eat human fetus, though.

And I don't abort nuts. I just wish nuts wouldn't be so concerned about abortion.


I guess it's alright for a Mom to drown her kids in the bathtub then. There's no difference between that and abortion, except for some more time has passed.
 
2013-05-29 02:51:50 AM
Call it retroactive abortion.
 
2013-05-29 03:24:07 AM
hasty ambush: Should we look at "facts" liberals teach and othe rthings they do with tax dollars?

ALL white people are racists

Not even going near this one... I'll just say that if everyone but you is being bitten by mosquitoes, you'll never notice that they exist. Too many white people, especially white males, float blissfully through life without even noticing the racism that exists in this society. Maybe it's because they're not being bitten by the mosquitoes. College and college courses are supposed to be designed to expose their students to ideas they may not have considered before, and this is one of them. That's how it's supposed to work.

professor compelled students in her graphic design class to create artwork opposing firearms on campus and opposing pro-gun legislation currently pending before the Texas state legislature.

No guns on college campuses? I really don't see a problem with this. In my 3rd year graphic design course we created anti-pollution campaigns. Should we have been pro-pollution instead? College is a place for learning, not hunting. Keep your phallic substitutes off campus.

College Professor forced to students to sign pledge to vote for Obama
College fires professor who forced students to sign pledge to vote for Obama

That's right, other libby libs fired the professor. It's what we do.
 

Democrats to force students to reveal their sexuality
http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4764">Bill pending in Oregon would ask students at public universities to reveal sexuality
The purpose of the legislation, according to Steven Leider, a graduate student at Oregon State, who worked with lawmakers on the bill, is to help universities more easily cater to their Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender (LGBT) populations.

That's right, the info was for demographic purposes and voluntary, so that the university would know how many counselors, facilities, and programs it might need for LGBT students. This type of information has been asked from students about their race or ethnic group, their sex, their family finances and income, their religion, their home states, and more for decades. It's how the school figures out who needs what, and how much. Not only that, it's a bill pending before the Oregon legislature. 

You lying sack of sh*t.
 
2013-05-29 03:51:40 AM

Steak_Cake_Sause: The Southern Dandy: sparkeyjames: Why do conservatives have to lie about every farking thing?

Yes.  Conservatives are only concerned with outward appearances.  Underlying truth is irrelevant to conservatives.

Anecdotally, Texas has the highest number of cosmetic surgeries in the nation.  BAM!

False eqivalece


How so?
 
2013-05-29 04:55:35 AM

RedVentrue: Bandito King: RedVentrue: Bandito King: RedVentrue: Jim_Callahan: NutWrench: Life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous, ongoing process.

Well, the criteria for being a living organism inculde capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction.

The capacity for reproduction doesn't occur until fairly late in fetal development.  While they're part of the larger ongoing process of capital-L life, an early fetus is not, itself, technically a living organism.

If it can gain the ability through it's normal course of development it does.

If you are an adult, then you are not currently growing, and therefore not alive.

That's the reason I refuse to eat pecans. They will eventually develop into trees, therefore they are already trees. You can't eat trees, that would be crazy.

I eat trees. Heat of palm is yummy. I also use them to smoke other food.

I don't eat human fetus, though.

And I don't abort nuts. I just wish nuts wouldn't be so concerned about abortion.

I guess it's alright for a Mom to drown her kids in the bathtub then. There's no difference between that and abortion, except for some more time has passed.


There is a ton of difference. I suspect those differences have been pointed out to you in the past and you have ignored them because they don't fit your narrative.

Here is one more attempt to educate you, just in case your troll bowl was getting low:

An embryo is a multicellular diploid eukaryote in its earliest stage of development.
In organisms that reproduce sexually, once a sperm fertilizes an egg cell, the result is a cell called the zygote that has all the DNA of two parents.
A fetus is a developing mammal or other viviparous vertebrate, after the embryonic stage and before birth.

So in other words: they are discrete stages of development, which is why we have different names for them, and not just, "the same".

In animals, the development of the zygote into an embryo proceeds through specific recognizable stages of blastula, gastrula, and organogenesis. Organogenesis, in case you're wondering, is the generation of organs, which do not exist prior to that point. No heart, no lungs, no brain. Souls don't exist, and a collection of undifferentiated cells is not a human being. I am not the least bit sorry if that hurts your feelings, btw, superstition is the enemy of mankind and churches of all denominations should be bulldozed.

For the record, "you" are the processes that are ongoing in your body to maintain consciousness. Without the impulses and chemical processes involved in the functioning of your brain, you don't exist. A body is just a shell; hardware for the constant, on-going, collection of processes (a cross between ram and firmware, if we continue the metaphor) that make up your (thankfully) unique mind.

Say what you want about aborting a non-viable fetus, you might be able to make some good points, although I doubt it. But you simply cannot argue with any credence that every stage of development is the same thing "but less so". I could be a stunt-man some day, it doesn't make me half a stunt-man right now.
 
2013-05-29 07:41:46 AM

redslippers: I just went and go the paper insert from my daughter's pills. It says that the pill is 97% effective with "perfect use" and 74% effective with "typical use". So, for what it is worth, 26 women out of 100 who are sexually active and taking the pill the way normal people do will get pregnant in a given year while on the pill.

/I didn't make that up. That is what the literature says that came in the pill box.


That includes all of the women who just stop taking it and don't tell their partner.
 
2013-05-29 07:54:59 AM
Would all students taking the Sex Education practical exam please head towards the Janitor's Closet.
 
2013-05-29 08:50:23 AM

FLMountainMan: Meh.  As far as disinformation taught in classrooms goes, none of that is even top ten.

Off to go get a smallpox blanket, which is difficult for me because white people have grossly inferior spatial intelligence and, not being Oriental, I lack excellent organizational skills.  Luckily I can afford it because the Laffer Curve grants me great wealth.  Which I already had because of white privilege.


fim.413chan.net
This is what you'd call a sore loser.
 
2013-05-29 08:54:07 AM

BitwiseShift: Given the prominence of St Peter in the christian religion and his very famous denial binge, it's a no-brainer that a conservative, christian group would come up with lots of crap like this. It's a major part of their religion.

Of course, they'd deny it.


www.wildsoundmovies.com
 
2013-05-29 09:00:08 AM

chairmenmeow47: if fetuses and babies are the same thing, does that mean i'm nine months older than i thought i was?!

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East Asians think so.
 
2013-05-29 09:02:27 AM

ciberido: chairmenmeow47: if fetuses and babies are the same thing, does that mean i'm nine months older than i thought i was?!

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 250x186]

East Asians think so.


Koreans also think that sleeping in a room with a fan running will kill you.
 
2013-05-29 10:05:15 AM

Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.


Nobody loves abortion, dumbass.

It's a last-ditch option in an imperfect world.

Don't like it?

Take it up with your Intelligent Designer.
 
2013-05-29 10:33:32 AM

chairmenmeow47: Profedius: It is not about what age you start having sex, it is about the nature of your sexual habits and those of your partners. I started have sexual contact at 11 and full intercourse by 12 I have never impregnated anyone and I have never had an STD, because I chose good partners and used birth control. I have turned down a lot more sexual encounters, because I wasn't comfortable with the partner's history leaving me with a total of 16 partners out of over 70 possible in my 40 years.

except of course for HPV, which condoms do not always prevent.  no matter how careful you are, you'd have to have lottery-winning odds to have never come into contact with or spread HPV.  without even knowing it even.

my point is, no matter how careful you are, shiat happens.  condoms and birth control are not 100% methods of protection.  although i commend you for trying to be safe, just realize not everyone with an STD or unplanned pregnancy was funneling gallons of infected semen in their twat.




HPV was not widely known or at least not to me until my late 20s. When I heard stories about it I went and had myself checked and I did not have it and found out it is part of my normal STD tests. I do agree that no birth control is 100% effective, but there are things both can do to get really close to 100% which is more practical than expecting they are not going to have sex. I find it hard to believe anyone thinks they could prevent or at least delay someone from the best feeling life has to offer.
 
2013-05-29 11:22:01 AM

Profedius: chairmenmeow47: Profedius: It is not about what age you start having sex, it is about the nature of your sexual habits and those of your partners. I started have sexual contact at 11 and full intercourse by 12 I have never impregnated anyone and I have never had an STD, because I chose good partners and used birth control. I have turned down a lot more sexual encounters, because I wasn't comfortable with the partner's history leaving me with a total of 16 partners out of over 70 possible in my 40 years.

except of course for HPV, which condoms do not always prevent.  no matter how careful you are, you'd have to have lottery-winning odds to have never come into contact with or spread HPV.  without even knowing it even.

my point is, no matter how careful you are, shiat happens.  condoms and birth control are not 100% methods of protection.  although i commend you for trying to be safe, just realize not everyone with an STD or unplanned pregnancy was funneling gallons of infected semen in their twat.

HPV was not widely known or at least not to me until my late 20s. When I heard stories about it I went and had myself checked and I did not have it and found out it is part of my normal STD tests. I do agree that no birth control is 100% effective, but there are things both can do to get really close to 100% which is more practical than expecting they are not going to have sex. I find it hard to believe anyone thinks they could prevent or at least delay someone from the best feeling life has to offer.


you cannot test for HPV in men, unless they have the strain with warts.
 
2013-05-29 11:28:25 AM

Bandito King: There is a ton of difference. I suspect those differences have been pointed out to you in the past and you have ignored them because they don't fit your narrative.

Here is one more attempt to educate you, just in case your troll bowl was getting low:

An embryo is a multicellular diploid eukaryote in its earliest stage of development.
In organisms that reproduce sexually, once a sperm fertilizes an egg cell, the result is a cell called the zygote that has all the DNA of two parents.
A fetus is a developing mammal or other viviparous vertebrate, after the embryonic stage and before birth.

So in other words: they are discrete stages of development, which is why we have different names for them, and not just, "the same".

In animals, the development of the zygote into an embryo proceeds through specific recognizable stages of blastula, gastrula, and organogenesis. Organogenesis, in case you're wondering, is the generation of organs, which do not exist prior to that point. No heart, no lungs, no brain. Souls don't exist, and a collection of undifferentiated cells is not a human being. I am not the least bit sorry if that hurts your feelings, btw, superstition is the enemy of mankind and churches of all denominations should be bulldozed.

For the record, "you" are the processes that are ongoing in your body to maintain consciousness. Without the impulses and chemical processes involved in the functioning of your brain, you don't exist. A body is just a shell; hardware for the constant, on-going, collection of processes (a cross between ram and firmware, if we continue the metaphor) that make up your (thankfully) unique mind.

Say what you want about aborting a non-viable fetus, you might be able to make some good points, although I doubt it. But you simply cannot argue with any credence that every stage of development is the same thing "but less so". I could be a stunt-man some day, it doesn't make me half a stunt-man right now.


You are making a case for spontaneous generation? One stage BECOMES the next stage, therefore it IS the next stage given enough time. Development is a continuum, not a "stage" as you so arbitrarily put it.

Your last sentence doesn't apply, or make much sense. You're talking about a job, I'm talking about genetics. You could be a stuntman, but you can't be a horse. Your position as I understand it, is that a less developed human, is either not human, or not alive. Which is it?
 
2013-05-29 12:38:22 PM

mysticcat: Good Gawd there is so much bullshiat here


So, it's pretty much a bog-standard Fark thread?
 
2013-05-29 12:43:05 PM

Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.


If it's purely a question of whether or not thing things "alive," then wouldn't stepping on an ant or swatting a fly be murder?  Are you a proponent of Jainism?
 
2013-05-29 12:47:57 PM

MagicMissile: So let me get this straight subby,


Have a cup of coffee first.  This could take a while.

Good to see you've decided to dust off the old election-troll account, though.
 
2013-05-29 01:30:24 PM

chairmenmeow47: you cannot test for HPV in men, unless they have the strain with warts.




Good to know my doctor is not always truthful then. Still my partners would have told me had they gotten any STDs from me or anyone else. My understanding is that women who have HPV do have some symptoms. I dated a woman once who I didn't sleep with and stopped dating after she told me she recently had genital warts. I stopped dating her not, because of the warts she once had, but due to the nature in how she came to get them.
 
2013-05-29 01:40:04 PM

lennavan: [www.gannett-cdn.com image 214x283]

Kinda weird for a transgender lady to be the conservative spokesperson for abstinence only.


I had to check the filename for that image, I could have swore it was a gif with her head swaying back and forth slightly.

/Well, back to sniffing glue.
 
2013-05-29 02:03:39 PM

heili skrimsli: redslippers: I just went and go the paper insert from my daughter's pills. It says that the pill is 97% effective with "perfect use" and 74% effective with "typical use". So, for what it is worth, 26 women out of 100 who are sexually active and taking the pill the way normal people do will get pregnant in a given year while on the pill.

/I didn't make that up. That is what the literature says that came in the pill box.

That includes all of the women who just stop taking it and don't tell their partner.


I'm pretty sure that isn't considered "typical use". That's considered psycho. And that is why you don't stick it in crazy, pr continue a relationship that is very lopsided as far as commitment level and desire for children/marriage.
 
2013-05-29 02:09:23 PM

RedVentrue: You are making a case for spontaneous generation? One stage BECOMES the next stage, therefore it IS the next stage given enough time. Development is a continuum, not a "stage" as you so arbitrarily put it.


Yes, it is a continuum. Just as the formation of a tornado is a continuum. The fact that, if left unencumbered, the POSSIBILITY exists that it will become something, does not make it that thing. IE: Funnel clouds are not tornadoes. Just as an nonviable embryo or fetus is not a baby. It is a baby when it can live without a parasitic attachment to a host. Up until that point, it is up to the host whether or not to allow the continuum.

I have had many miscarriages. I have five children. I have never had an abortion. But I can tell you that there is no confusing the clump of blood and cells and tissue that is expelled with a miscarriage up to about 15 or 16 weeks with a baby. Babies have skin, fully formed organs, brains, etc. A fetus at that stage of development is not a baby.
 
2013-05-29 02:45:27 PM

ciberido: Mija: Life DOES begin at conception and you don't have to be a conservative to believe that FACT. You have to be in denial to excuse your love to killing children to even pretend that a fetus is not a living being.

If it's purely a question of whether or not thing things "alive," then wouldn't stepping on an ant or swatting a fly be murder?  Are you a proponent of Jainism?


The next step for this silly argument is for them to claim it's special because the fetus has human DNA, which makes it not just alive, but a person! Under that logic, everyone that scratches off some of their skin cells is a mass-murderer... At which point, they usually try to dance around that being different because that's actually your own exact DNA, so it's not a separate person... Then, cancer is brought up, since that's human DNA, just altered/mutated, so it's not the same as your own... Then, they usually run off in a huff that you dared compare precious babies to cancer!

To me, it's really simple: it's not a person until it develops consciousness, or at the very least the basic necessary biological components for it to exist... So, sometime in the third trimester... At the very, very earliest... Before that, it may be alive, but it's sure as fark not a person...
 
2013-05-29 02:54:14 PM

redslippers: heili skrimsli: redslippers: I just went and go the paper insert from my daughter's pills. It says that the pill is 97% effective with "perfect use" and 74% effective with "typical use". So, for what it is worth, 26 women out of 100 who are sexually active and taking the pill the way normal people do will get pregnant in a given year while on the pill.

/I didn't make that up. That is what the literature says that came in the pill box.

That includes all of the women who just stop taking it and don't tell their partner.

I'm pretty sure that isn't considered "typical use". That's considered psycho. And that is why you don't stick it in crazy, pr continue a relationship that is very lopsided as far as commitment level and desire for children/marriage.


Yet that is how a lot of those 'I don't know how this happened. I swear I was taking my pill every day.' babies happen.
 
2013-05-29 03:00:59 PM

redslippers: RedVentrue: You are making a case for spontaneous generation? One stage BECOMES the next stage, therefore it IS the next stage given enough time. Development is a continuum, not a "stage" as you so arbitrarily put it.

Yes, it is a continuum. Just as the formation of a tornado is a continuum. The fact that, if left unencumbered, the POSSIBILITY exists that it will become something, does not make it that thing. IE: Funnel clouds are not tornadoes. Just as an nonviable embryo or fetus is not a baby. It is a baby when it can live without a parasitic attachment to a host. Up until that point, it is up to the host whether or not to allow the continuum.

I have had many miscarriages. I have five children. I have never had an abortion. But I can tell you that there is no confusing the clump of blood and cells and tissue that is expelled with a miscarriage up to about 15 or 16 weeks with a baby. Babies have skin, fully formed organs, brains, etc. A fetus at that stage of development is not a baby.


A child outside the womb is still dependant on others for life, but is considered alive. How do we know which "clump of cells" is viable and which is not? Was it viable before it's scraped off the uterine wall, or in case of later term abortions, cut up and removed from the womb in pieces? Guess we will never know now, will we? There is nothing that can be done about miscarraiges, but that is no reason to support abortions.
 
2013-05-29 03:41:20 PM

RedVentrue: A child outside the womb is still dependa

ent on others for life, but is considered alive. How do we know which "clump of cells" is viable and which is not? Was it viable before it's scraped off the uterine wall, or in case of later term abortions, cut up and removed from the womb in pieces? Guess we will never know now, will we? There is nothing that can be done about miscarraiges, but that is no reason to support abortions.

Your illogical rant with its false premises doesn't merit a response, so I corrected your spelling instead.
 
2013-05-29 03:51:14 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: RedVentrue: A child outside the womb is still dependaent on others for life, but is considered alive. How do we know which "clump of cells" is viable and which is not? Was it viable before it's scraped off the uterine wall, or in case of later term abortions, cut up and removed from the womb in pieces? Guess we will never know now, will we? There is nothing that can be done about miscarraiges, but that is no reason to support abortions.

Your illogical rant with its false premises doesn't merit a response, so I corrected your spelling instead.


Sigh. Go ahead and keep killing the unborn. It's your Karma.
 
2013-05-29 04:18:31 PM

RedVentrue: demaL-demaL-yeH: RedVentrue: A child outside the womb is still dependaent on others for life, but is considered alive. How do we know which "clump of cells" is viable and which is not? Was it viable before it's scraped off the uterine wall, or in case of later term abortions, cut up and removed from the womb in pieces? Guess we will never know now, will we? There is nothing that can be done about miscarraiges, but that is no reason to support abortions.

Your illogical rant with its false premises doesn't merit a response, so I corrected your spelling instead.

Sigh. Go ahead and keep killing the unborn. It's your Karma.


False premises are false.

Is a uterus part of your OEM, John?
No? Are women chattel?
(Hint: The correct answer to that question is always "No!")
Is a woman's medical decision - since you aren't the woman directly affected - any of your fuggin bidness?
(Hint: It isn't, you ignoranus.)

/That was deliberate: It's your farkie.
 
2013-05-29 05:13:40 PM

illannoyin: [media.screened.com image 360x450]

What's next? You stick your d!ck in and it explodes?


images.starpulse.com
Well... not explode, no.
 
2013-05-29 05:16:32 PM

JWideman: scottydoesntknow: druiid: Well, the pill like condoms are not totally fail-proof. I did in fact have a friend become pregnant on the pill (and their daughter is now approaching a year old). So, it does happen, it's just very very rare and not really a realistic argument for abstinence only programs to make.

Heh, my high school science teacher told us all 3 of her kids were not planned. 2 came while she was on birth control, and the last came after the dad had a vasectomy (which I'm assuming didn't work).

She told us all this as her daughter was sitting next to me, in class.

/We called her Unplanned Pam after that

Either he lied about the vasectomy or she was farking the mailman. And if he lied about the vasectomy, he probably sabotaged her pills.


No, vasectomies are not 100% successful at preventing pregnancy.
 
2013-05-29 05:18:52 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: RedVentrue: demaL-demaL-yeH: RedVentrue: A child outside the womb is still dependaent on others for life, but is considered alive. How do we know which "clump of cells" is viable and which is not? Was it viable before it's scraped off the uterine wall, or in case of later term abortions, cut up and removed from the womb in pieces? Guess we will never know now, will we? There is nothing that can be done about miscarraiges, but that is no reason to support abortions.

Your illogical rant with its false premises doesn't merit a response, so I corrected your spelling instead.

Sigh. Go ahead and keep killing the unborn. It's your Karma.

False premises are false.

Is a uterus part of your OEM, John?
No? Are women chattel?
(Hint: The correct answer to that question is always "No!")
Is a woman's medical decision - since you aren't the woman directly affected - any of your fuggin bidness?
(Hint: It isn't, you ignoranus.)

/That was deliberate: It's your farkie.


Are women chattel? No, but women's bodies aren't just their bodies. Sometimes they are incubators as well. When pregnant your body is not just your body, but an environment for your child. If someone removed you from the environment you needed to live, and placed you in a hostile one (say a mile down in the Pacific Ocean) you would die too. That person would be responsible for killing you, and this is no different.

This is not simply a medical decision, but also a moral one. It's not fair, but it's the way it is. When you terminate a life, you are responsible.
 
2013-05-29 05:37:30 PM

RedVentrue: demaL-demaL-yeH: RedVentrue: A child outside the womb is still dependaent on others for life, but is considered alive. How do we know which "clump of cells" is viable and which is not? Was it viable before it's scraped off the uterine wall, or in case of later term abortions, cut up and removed from the womb in pieces? Guess we will never know now, will we? There is nothing that can be done about miscarraiges, but that is no reason to support abortions.

Your illogical rant with its false premises doesn't merit a response, so I corrected your spelling instead.

Sigh. Go ahead and keep killing the unborn. It's your Karma.


Wow, this thread is still going on and it's still rather heated! I'll just step in here to post a reminder that when mentioning karma it is important to keep in mind that there multiple concepts of karma and some of them are not necessarily linked to any sort of morality. Karma is sometimes viewed simply as one's attachment to an idea or behavior that serves as a binding force linking a person to the physical world and mortality. Under such a view, moral guidelines could be seen as good advice for a society, but also as ultimately an illusion in the grand scheme of things.
 
2013-05-29 06:01:18 PM

RedVentrue: Are women chattel? No, but women's bodies aren't just their bodies. Sometimes they are incubators as well. When pregnant your body is not just your body, but an environment for your child.


You see that bold part? It's a contradiction. Women are chattel in your mind.

/I'll bet you're for the death penalty, too.
 
2013-05-29 07:11:56 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: RedVentrue: Are women chattel? No, but women's bodies aren't just their bodies. Sometimes they are incubators as well. When pregnant your body is not just your body, but an environment for your child.

You see that bold part? It's a contradiction. Women are chattel in your mind.

/I'll bet you're for the death penalty, too.


I guess women are chattel to their children, unless you advocate they abandon their children.

No, I'm not for the death penalty. Death is the easy way out, and teaches nothing.
 
2013-05-29 07:14:00 PM

Walter Paisley: RedVentrue: demaL-demaL-yeH: RedVentrue: A child outside the womb is still dependaent on others for life, but is considered alive. How do we know which "clump of cells" is viable and which is not? Was it viable before it's scraped off the uterine wall, or in case of later term abortions, cut up and removed from the womb in pieces? Guess we will never know now, will we? There is nothing that can be done about miscarraiges, but that is no reason to support abortions.

Your illogical rant with its false premises doesn't merit a response, so I corrected your spelling instead.

Sigh. Go ahead and keep killing the unborn. It's your Karma.

Wow, this thread is still going on and it's still rather heated! I'll just step in here to post a reminder that when mentioning karma it is important to keep in mind that there multiple concepts of karma and some of them are not necessarily linked to any sort of morality. Karma is sometimes viewed simply as one's attachment to an idea or behavior that serves as a binding force linking a person to the physical world and mortality. Under such a view, moral guidelines could be seen as good advice for a society, but also as ultimately an illusion in the grand scheme of things.


I was speaking of the Dharma/Karma process. Sorry if I wasn't specific enough.
 
2013-05-29 08:33:37 PM

ciberido: JWideman: scottydoesntknow: druiid: Well, the pill like condoms are not totally fail-proof. I did in fact have a friend become pregnant on the pill (and their daughter is now approaching a year old). So, it does happen, it's just very very rare and not really a realistic argument for abstinence only programs to make.

Heh, my high school science teacher told us all 3 of her kids were not planned. 2 came while she was on birth control, and the last came after the dad had a vasectomy (which I'm assuming didn't work).

She told us all this as her daughter was sitting next to me, in class.

/We called her Unplanned Pam after that

Either he lied about the vasectomy or she was farking the mailman. And if he lied about the vasectomy, he probably sabotaged her pills.

No, vasectomies are not 100% successful at preventing pregnancy.


Huh. Didn't know that. Still, 1 in 2000 is pretty good odds. Throw in the two pregnancies despite her being on the pill, and it gets hard to believe.
 
2013-05-29 09:02:02 PM

Hickory-smoked: Clemkadidlefark: (taxpayer dollars) says subby

Global Warming?
Electric cars?
Endless war?
Every bit of madness called 'education'?

... c'mon subs. 'Conservatives' have so far to climb up the tree of forbidden taxpayer fruit to warrant the "AND THEY'RE DOING IT WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS meme I'll be on my third reincarnation before 'conservatives' get to the break-even point with ProgLib's fleecing of America.

That makes literally no sense in at least 8 different ways. Is this a performance?



It's hard to tell with Clemkadidlefark, between the racism, the vaccination derp, and the conspiracy theories, I'm never quite sure what he believes.  He really comes across as someone who believes what he says, so I doubt he's a troll, but you can never know for certain.
 
2013-05-29 09:23:36 PM

gweilo8888: It's funny how many people here take every single post they read as if it was 100% serious. Are all of you new?


The problem is, while it's easy to know that not everyone is being 100% serious, it is still quite difficult to know WHICH posts are serious and which are not.
 
2013-05-29 09:28:32 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: redslippers: Yes. I am Jewish, with five kidlets (or as I refer to them, minions). My youngest if four, my oldest if 17. My husband is Lutheran. I was raised in south Georgia, which isn't much fun when you are a Jew. Some of the honest to goodness questions I got growing up: "Jewish, is that kinda like Cath'lic?" "Why don't you wear a cross? They're so purdy" and my personal favorites (it's a tie) "I know you're Jew-ish, but where do you go to church?" and "But Jesus WAS a Jew. How can you not love Jesus? He was one of your people!".

/defying sterotypes: it's my day job.

Wait, you're telling me I could have gotten minions, hmm, oh well to late now.


You could always clone yourself and call the minions "maggettes."
 
2013-05-29 09:47:47 PM

ciberido: tinfoil-hat maggie: redslippers: Yes. I am Jewish, with five kidlets (or as I refer to them, minions). My youngest if four, my oldest if 17. My husband is Lutheran. I was raised in south Georgia, which isn't much fun when you are a Jew. Some of the honest to goodness questions I got growing up: "Jewish, is that kinda like Cath'lic?" "Why don't you wear a cross? They're so purdy" and my personal favorites (it's a tie) "I know you're Jew-ish, but where do you go to church?" and "But Jesus WAS a Jew. How can you not love Jesus? He was one of your people!".

/defying sterotypes: it's my day job.

Wait, you're telling me I could have gotten minions, hmm, oh well to late now.

You could always clone yourself and call the minions "maggettes."


Hmmm, interesting idea but NO.
: D
 
2013-05-29 09:55:37 PM

ciberido: gweilo8888: It's funny how many people here take every single post they read as if it was 100% serious. Are all of you new?

The problem is, while it's easy to know that not everyone is being 100% serious, it is still quite difficult to know WHICH posts are serious and which are not.


Oh and I was truthful in some things I said here but I'm not gonna tell which ones are which : )
 
2013-05-29 11:16:58 PM

Rapmaster2000: The Southern Dandy: Rapmaster2000: A cop told us in high school that marijuana kills more people in one year than alcohol and handguns combined.  Seems legit.

Alcohol combined with hand guns are about the safest thing out there.  I just bought my 5 year old a Glock and a 5th of Jack for his birthday.

Coolest Dad Evar.


In Alabama, that's what they call a "birthday party at Chuck E. Cheese."
 
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