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2013-05-28 09:36:54 AM  
Too gay to be in theaters?  But I thought.....Oh, those theaters.
 
2013-05-28 09:44:29 AM  
The casting was great but the storyline...not so much.  I was *really* looking forward to a biopic, not a 9-year look at one of his relationships.  The costumes were definitely fabulous, though.

/Took me only a second to recognize Scott Bakula.  Dan Aykroyd took me nearly 1/2 an hour.
 
2013-05-28 09:49:53 AM  
It was creepy as hell seeing Michael Douglas' Liberacce. He did a fantastic job, but it was a bit unnerving.

Also, I thought that during the sex scene, that he was using smelling salts, not drugs. Never heard of a drug that you use the same way you use the salts. Could be wrong though.
 
2013-05-28 09:54:25 AM  
Yes, it was very gay. It was funny to see Captain Archer in it.

It might have been funnier if it showed Matt and Michael having trouble sitting. Ow, ow, ow
 
2013-05-28 10:00:52 AM  
That movie was gay.

Totally gay.

Liberace gay.
 
2013-05-28 10:02:39 AM  

iron_city_ap: It was creepy as hell seeing Michael Douglas' Liberacce. He did a fantastic job, but it was a bit unnerving.

Also, I thought that during the sex scene, that he was using smelling salts, not drugs. Never heard of a drug that you use the same way you use the salts. Could be wrong though.


poppers. i have NO idea how i know this...not gay...not bi...and apparently women don't use them, only bottom guys. supposedly instantly relaxes you and heightens the experience.
 
2013-05-28 10:06:39 AM  
No studio would touch it.  That is why it is on HBO.
 
2013-05-28 10:06:49 AM  

bungle_jr: iron_city_ap: It was creepy as hell seeing Michael Douglas' Liberacce. He did a fantastic job, but it was a bit unnerving.

Also, I thought that during the sex scene, that he was using smelling salts, not drugs. Never heard of a drug that you use the same way you use the salts. Could be wrong though.

poppers. i have NO idea how i know this...not gay...not bi...and apparently women don't use them, only bottom guys. supposedly instantly relaxes you and heightens the experience.


Well, if you're of my generation, you know of poppers because they were all over the news during the beginning of the Aids crisis.
 
2013-05-28 10:07:04 AM  

iron_city_ap: Never heard of a drug that you use the same way you use the salts. Could be wrong though.


amyl nitrate.

nasty stuff. *shudder*
 
2013-05-28 10:08:22 AM  
I know I probably had too much to drink before the show, but what in the Seven Hells were Renly and Loras wearing the other night?  And since when does Renly play piano?  Or was that his ghost?  I'm so confused.
 
2013-05-28 10:10:22 AM  
whoops. nitrite, not nitrate. be safe, kids.
 
2013-05-28 10:11:07 AM  

Persnickety: I know I probably had too much to drink before the show, but what in the Seven Hells were Renly and Loras wearing the other night?  And since when does Renly play piano?  Or was that his ghost?  I'm so confused.


for the night is dark and full of errors.
 
2013-05-28 10:14:16 AM  
HBO has done some pretty amazing movies. You Don't Jack with Al Pacino as Kevorkian is incredible and worth renting if you haven't seen it.
 
2013-05-28 10:15:58 AM  

Wayne 985: HBO has done some pretty amazing movies. You Don't Know Jack with Al Pacino as Kevorkian is incredible and worth renting if you haven't seen it.

 
2013-05-28 10:20:31 AM  

Wayne 985: Wayne 985: HBO has done some pretty amazing movies. You Don't Know Jack with Al Pacino as Kevorkian is incredible and worth renting if you haven't seen it.


Is Phil Spector any good? I've got it sitting on my Tivo but haven't watched it yet.
 
2013-05-28 10:21:22 AM  

DeadMouseTails: bungle_jr: iron_city_ap: It was creepy as hell seeing Michael Douglas' Liberacce. He did a fantastic job, but it was a bit unnerving.

Also, I thought that during the sex scene, that he was using smelling salts, not drugs. Never heard of a drug that you use the same way you use the salts. Could be wrong though.

poppers. i have NO idea how i know this...not gay...not bi...and apparently women don't use them, only bottom guys. supposedly instantly relaxes you and heightens the experience.

Well, if you're of my generation, you know of poppers because they were all over the news during the beginning of the Aids crisis.


not sure...i'm 37, so i was probably about 7 or 8 when i first really heard about AIDS
 
2013-05-28 10:23:29 AM  
Why they decide to make Rob Lowe look like David Bowie as the Goblin King is beyond me.
 
2013-05-28 10:29:36 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Wayne 985: Wayne 985: HBO has done some pretty amazing movies. You Don't Know Jack with Al Pacino as Kevorkian is incredible and worth renting if you haven't seen it.

Is Phil Spector any good? I've got it sitting on my Tivo but haven't watched it yet.


Good question, I was wondering the same thing.

BBC did a documentary on him called "The Agony and Ecstasy of Phil Spector" which was AWESOME and worth checking out as well!
 
2013-05-28 10:31:18 AM  
I guess I won't be getting my Rock Hudson screenplay produced dammit.  That's two years of my life I'm not getting back. Maybe I'll have better luck with "The Rip Taylor Story".
 
2013-05-28 10:34:56 AM  
It was a good movie, but parts of it really creeped me out.

The Plastic Surgery scenes were icky.
 
2013-05-28 10:44:13 AM  

BilltheThrill: I guess I won't be getting my Rock Hudson screenplay produced dammit.  That's two years of my life I'm not getting back. Maybe I'll have better luck with "The Rip Taylor Story".


Sorry, but my Charles Nelson Reilly biopic (Round Peg in a Center Square) is probably going to smoke your Rip Taylor Story.
 
2013-05-28 10:48:50 AM  

Vodka Zombie: BilltheThrill: I guess I won't be getting my Rock Hudson screenplay produced dammit.  That's two years of my life I'm not getting back. Maybe I'll have better luck with "The Rip Taylor Story".

Sorry, but my Charles Nelson Reilly biopic (Round Peg in a Center Square) is probably going to smoke your Rip Taylor Story.


How about we join forces, and make it a two part mini-series also featuring the career of Paul Lynde?
 
2013-05-28 10:54:16 AM  

Vodka Zombie: BilltheThrill: I guess I won't be getting my Rock Hudson screenplay produced dammit.  That's two years of my life I'm not getting back. Maybe I'll have better luck with "The Rip Taylor Story".

Sorry, but my Charles Nelson Reilly biopic (Round Peg in a Center Square) is probably going to smoke your Rip Taylor Story.


the rip taylor story will be full of confetti, though!
 
2013-05-28 10:58:29 AM  

BilltheThrill: Vodka Zombie: BilltheThrill: I guess I won't be getting my Rock Hudson screenplay produced dammit.  That's two years of my life I'm not getting back. Maybe I'll have better luck with "The Rip Taylor Story".

Sorry, but my Charles Nelson Reilly biopic (Round Peg in a Center Square) is probably going to smoke your Rip Taylor Story.

How about we join forces, and make it a two part mini-series also featuring the career of Paul Lynde?


Three: Wayland Flowers and Madame.
 
2013-05-28 10:59:29 AM  
Not clicking a goddamn Mother Jones link.
 
2013-05-28 11:00:30 AM  

bungle_jr: iron_city_ap: It was creepy as hell seeing Michael Douglas' Liberacce. He did a fantastic job, but it was a bit unnerving.

Also, I thought that during the sex scene, that he was using smelling salts, not drugs. Never heard of a drug that you use the same way you use the salts. Could be wrong though.

poppers. i have NO idea how i know this...not gay...not bi...and apparently women don't use them, only bottom guys. supposedly instantly relaxes you and heightens the experience.


celebgreat.com

Knows this all too well.

Amyl nitrate overdose killed Paul Lynde; aside from relaxing certain muscles and giving a temporary
euphoric rush, they also stress your heart, and his just couldn't take it.
 
2013-05-28 11:11:22 AM  
I have no farking idea why anyone would want to make a story about Liberace. The guy was all hype and bad taste and after he died, people pretty much forgot about him.
 
2013-05-28 11:13:47 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Wayne 985: Wayne 985: HBO has done some pretty amazing movies. You Don't Know Jack with Al Pacino as Kevorkian is incredible and worth renting if you haven't seen it.

Is Phil Spector any good? I've got it sitting on my Tivo but haven't watched it yet.


Haven't seen that one. Forgot about it, actually, but heard it's well done.
 
2013-05-28 11:21:33 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Not clicking a goddamn Mother Jones link.


why on earth not?
 
2013-05-28 11:28:02 AM  

brigid_fitch: The casting was great but the storyline...not so much.  I was *really* looking forward to a biopic, not a 9-year look at one of his relationships.  The costumes were definitely fabulous, though.

/Took me only a second to recognize Scott Bakula.  Dan Aykroyd took me nearly 1/2 an hour.


I didn't recognize Debbie Reynolds as his mother.
 
2013-05-28 11:30:03 AM  

farkeruk: I have no farking idea why anyone would want to make a story about Liberace. The guy was all hype and bad taste and after he died, people pretty much forgot about him.


HOMOPHOBE!!!11
 
2013-05-28 11:38:24 AM  

farkeruk: I have no farking idea why anyone would want to make a story about Liberace. The guy was all hype and bad taste and after he died, people pretty much forgot about him.


um... because it's interesting? just a guess though.
 
2013-05-28 11:38:45 AM  
I wish my brother, George was here.
 
2013-05-28 11:39:27 AM  

farkeruk: The guy was all hype and bad taste


Kind of like Elvis, but more fabulous?
 
2013-05-28 11:51:13 AM  

farkeruk: I have no farking idea why anyone would want to make a story about Liberace. The guy was all hype and bad taste and after he died, people pretty much forgot about him.


My grandma is coming over to kick your ass.
 
2013-05-28 11:58:33 AM  

bungle_jr: iron_city_ap: It was creepy as hell seeing Michael Douglas' Liberacce. He did a fantastic job, but it was a bit unnerving.

Also, I thought that during the sex scene, that he was using smelling salts, not drugs. Never heard of a drug that you use the same way you use the salts. Could be wrong though.

poppers. i have NO idea how i know this...not gay...not bi...and apparently women don't use them, only bottom guys. supposedly instantly relaxes you and heightens the experience.


Have you read Armistead Maupin's series Tales of the City? He mentions poppers about every third page. Excellent read, though.
 
2013-05-28 11:59:40 AM  

BinderWoman: brigid_fitch: The casting was great but the storyline...not so much.  I was *really* looking forward to a biopic, not a 9-year look at one of his relationships.  The costumes were definitely fabulous, though.

/Took me only a second to recognize Scott Bakula.  Dan Aykroyd took me nearly 1/2 an hour.

I didn't recognize Debbie Reynolds as his mother.


I knew there was something familiar about her but had to check IMDB.
 
2013-05-28 12:01:00 PM  
Haven't seen it, but considering how popular Liberace was with women I bet he was waist deep in poontang.
 
2013-05-28 12:16:49 PM  
What that really Matt Damon's ass or a double?

I'm asking for a friend.
 
2013-05-28 12:25:52 PM  

FlashHarry: iron_city_ap: Never heard of a drug that you use the same way you use the salts. Could be wrong though.

amyl nitrate.

nasty stuff. *shudder*


Yeah, I knew it was amyl nitrate & it's used during sex but I have no idea what it does.  My only frame of reference was a scene in Silence of the Lambs or Red Dragon, I forget which book.
 
2013-05-28 12:26:02 PM  

brigid_fitch: The casting was great but the storyline...not so much.  I was *really* looking forward to a biopic, not a 9-year look at one of his relationships.  The costumes were definitely fabulous, though.

/Took me only a second to recognize Scott Bakula.  Dan Aykroyd took me nearly 1/2 an hour.


What about Debbie Reynolds? She was awesome.

Anyway, I thought it was a really good movie. But I can see why it wasn't a theatrical feature. And it's not because its 'too gay.' I think that's a line Soderbergh is tossing out there to get a dig in at the studios. I think, as good as the movie was, it would've bombed in theaters. Soderbergh keeps talking about how cheap it was to make, but it wasn't. They had prosthetic makeup artists working on it for at least a year before. The costumes alone (not even counting what they could've borrowed from the Liberace estate) were a big budget expense. The cars, the locations. It wasn't cheap. And it costs studios big bucks, often equal to or exceeding production costs to get a movie into theaters. There is no way a studio could've made their money back on a theatrical release. HBO was the perfect home for this movie, and it should have been where Soderbergh went first.
 
2013-05-28 12:27:43 PM  

BinderWoman: brigid_fitch: The casting was great but the storyline...not so much.  I was *really* looking forward to a biopic, not a 9-year look at one of his relationships.  The costumes were definitely fabulous, though.

/Took me only a second to recognize Scott Bakula.  Dan Aykroyd took me nearly 1/2 an hour.

I didn't recognize Debbie Reynolds as his mother.


I didn't recognize her, either.  I saw the credits and was floored.
 
2013-05-28 12:29:57 PM  

Spatula Porn: Why they decide to make Rob Lowe look like David Bowie as the Goblin King is beyond me.


Too show how unethical and crazy the plastic surgeon was.  I'm guessing no ethical plastic surgeon would agree to lift Liberace's face to the point his eyes wouldn't close, let alone writing all those Rx drugs for Matt Damon's character.

/Thought he looked more like Michael Jackson than the Goblin King.
 
2013-05-28 12:41:52 PM  

FTFA:

Hollywood and mainstream cinema have a long and well-documented history of not "knowing" how to "sell" and market movies featuring explicit gay sex to a wide audience.


/obvious
 
2013-05-28 12:46:59 PM  
A "gay" movie just won the Palm d'Or at Cannes.
 
2013-05-28 12:49:57 PM  

brigid_fitch: Yeah, I knew it was amyl nitrate & it's used during sex but I have no idea what it does


It's like a mix of cocaine carbon monoxide poisoning at the same time. Like being choked.
The O2 supply is shut off to the brain and you get real dizzy.
It's only momentary, and it can really screw up your heart, among other organs.
See Poppers, Locker room.
 
2013-05-28 01:07:11 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Wayne 985: Wayne 985: HBO has done some pretty amazing movies. You Don't Know Jack with Al Pacino as Kevorkian is incredible and worth renting if you haven't seen it.

Is Phil Spector any good? I've got it sitting on my Tivo but haven't watched it yet.


David Mamet wrote and directed it, so it's really more a story about how a smart lawyer (Miren) could have gotten the monster who lives in the cave and eats people off a murder rap if he'd only listened to her.

It's good, but I don't know how grounded in reality it is.
 
2013-05-28 01:10:15 PM  
Wasn't boring, but it tried too hard to be like Boogie Nights.
 
2013-05-28 01:12:41 PM  

propasaurus: A "gay" movie just won the Palm d'Or at Cannes.


Yes, but it was the right kind of gay.
 
2013-05-28 01:32:45 PM  

farkeruk: I have no farking idea why anyone would want to make a story about Liberace. The guy was all hype and bad taste and after he died, people pretty much forgot about him.


Well, he was no Van Cliburn. But then again, who is?
 
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