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2013-05-28 01:57:16 AM
Here is something I just noticed.  The Contract with America was the big kick off for the Tea Party and it happened on April 15th, 2009 (aka Tax Day).  The whole point of it was to lead up to the midterm elections in 2010.  Now we are seeing the IRS "scandal" dominate conservative newspapers and the Tea Party is getting a huge influx of money at basically the exact same time leading up to the 2014 midterms.  I am all for this though,  I am sure they will free up some of those nice Old Guard Republican seats given their track record
 
2013-05-28 09:27:14 AM

SnakeLee: Here is something I just noticed.  The Contract with America was the big kick off for the Tea Party and it happened on April 15th, 2009 (aka Tax Day).  The whole point of it was to lead up to the midterm elections in 2010.  Now we are seeing the IRS "scandal" dominate conservative newspapers and the Tea Party is getting a huge influx of money at basically the exact same time leading up to the 2014 midterms.  I am all for this though,  I am sure they will free up some of those nice Old Guard Republican seats given their track record



I think they're going to climax too early.  They should have waited until June of next year.
 
2013-05-28 09:33:52 AM
the funny thing is, it's gonna destroy the republican party. it's almost as if the IRS thing was timed to come out now by the obama administration...
 
2013-05-28 09:34:49 AM
I still fail to see how the IRS is a scandal other than some piss poor decisions to lump a group of applications under a bad title of names, for the purposes of making their jobs easier.
 
2013-05-28 09:38:15 AM
"A recent poll broadcast on Fox News on Monday confirmed: Now, 44 percent of likely voting Americans hold a favorable view of the tea party. That's up from 30 percent a few months ago, the Rasmussen poll said."

Sounds unskewed.
 
2013-05-28 09:39:24 AM
Great. Another round of the absolute worst people in America funding the candidacies of the absolute stupidest people in America.
 
2013-05-28 09:39:34 AM

UberDave: I think they're going to climax too early. They should have waited until June of next year.


I suspect that the premature climax thing is a problem for a lot of Tea Partiers.
 
2013-05-28 09:40:23 AM
This better not be true. I really don't want Fark to devolve back into 90% Sarah Palin threads every day.
 
2013-05-28 09:40:44 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: I still fail to see how the IRS is a scandal other than some piss poor decisions to lump a group of applications under a bad title of names, for the purposes of making their jobs easier.


The scandal should be that any of them were actually approved.
 
2013-05-28 09:42:13 AM

gshepnyc: Great. Another round of the absolute worst people in America funding the candidacies of the absolute stupidest people in America.


Other way around.
 
2013-05-28 09:42:47 AM

gshepnyc: Great. Another round of the absolute worst people in America funding the candidacies of the absolute stupidest people in America.


Isn't it the other way around?
 
2013-05-28 09:42:47 AM

lilbjorn: IdBeCrazyIf: I still fail to see how the IRS is a scandal other than some piss poor decisions to lump a group of applications under a bad title of names, for the purposes of making their jobs easier.

The scandal should be that any of them were actually approved.


My thoughts exactly

Of course, the wishy washy regulations in the wake of Citzens United left a lot of regulators scratching their heads with no clue what the fark to do with them in the first place
 
2013-05-28 09:43:34 AM
Considering Obama could cut a wet fart in the Oval Office and the tea party would try to fundraise off it, I'm hardly surprised.
 
2013-05-28 09:44:58 AM
Meh. Wake me up when IRSghazi is actually a scandal that implicates the president.
 
2013-05-28 09:45:37 AM
A recent poll broadcast on Fox News on Monday confirmed: Now, 44 percent of likely voting Americans hold a favorable view of the tea party.

This feels like conservative unskewed math.....even if it isn't that means a significant majority of 56% of Americans hold an unfavorable view of the tea party.
 
2013-05-28 09:47:05 AM

CorporatePerson: This better not be true. I really don't want Fark to devolve back into 90% Sarah Palin threads every day.


Look at today's gun thread headline. A Palin headline would be an improvement.
 
2013-05-28 09:47:25 AM
SnakeLee:  I am all for this though,  I am sure they will free up some of those nice Old Guard Republican seats given their track record

Yup.  Sounds like the Republicans didn't think their cunning plan all the way through.  Inspiring sympathy and righteous anger for a movement that has been nothing but a thorn in your side for the past four years . . . yeah, not the best idea.
 
2013-05-28 09:48:02 AM
They should just call their policy statement  "Articles of Impeachment for Barry Soetoro" and get it over with.
 
2013-05-28 09:49:11 AM
It's more about secret donors and big money agenda than taxes.
 
2013-05-28 09:51:27 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: "A recent poll broadcast on Fox News on Monday confirmed: Now, 44 percent of likely voting Americans hold a favorable view of the tea party. That's up from 30 percent a few months ago, the Rasmussen poll said."

Sounds unskewed.


rasmussen + fox... yeah, i'd say it's "likely voting republicans," not americans.
 
2013-05-28 09:52:08 AM

lilbjorn: IdBeCrazyIf: I still fail to see how the IRS is a scandal other than some piss poor decisions to lump a group of applications under a bad title of names, for the purposes of making their jobs easier.

The scandal should be that any of them were actually approved.


Wouldn't it be some delicious irony if these groups get their tax exempt status pulled? Especially after they went and raised all that money. Bonus, force them to disclose the donors
 
2013-05-28 09:52:10 AM
The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.
 
2013-05-28 09:52:26 AM
The teabaggers are self-limiting.  Their numbers might bump up for a while as some people on the boundary between loon and sane buy into the "this is the most corrupt administration EVAR"* thing, but when they get a good, close look at just what the teabaggers are saying, the sane will again flee in droves.  They may not vote Democrat, but they won't vote teabagger either.

*Reading "Nixon's Darkest Secrets"--that whole "worse than Watergate" thing the right is trying to pin on Obama is a real stitch.  The book is chaotic, and clearly slanted, but it provides a lot of direct quotes, including from some of Nixon's closest aides, and Nixon himself, that make it clear he considered himself entirely above the law on everything, up to and including burglarly, extortion, blackmail and murder.

But the IRS delaying applications from clearly politically-motivated groups for tax-exempt status is clearly much worse.
 
2013-05-28 09:52:36 AM
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
 
2013-05-28 09:54:12 AM
They're also mostly college-educated.
 
2013-05-28 09:54:16 AM

markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.


What magical fantasy land do you live in.
 
2013-05-28 09:55:51 AM

Citrate1007: markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.

What magical fantasy land do you live in.


Sarcasm, how does it work?
 
2013-05-28 09:56:14 AM

Citrate1007: markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.

What magical fantasy land do you live in.


I think he's doing an improv scene.
 
2013-05-28 09:56:42 AM

sammyk: lilbjorn: IdBeCrazyIf: I still fail to see how the IRS is a scandal other than some piss poor decisions to lump a group of applications under a bad title of names, for the purposes of making their jobs easier.

The scandal should be that any of them were actually approved.

Wouldn't it be some delicious irony if these groups get their tax exempt status pulled? Especially after they went and raised all that money. Bonus, force them to disclose the donors


They wont get their Tax Exempt status pulled. They would still be a 501 Non-Profit, they would just have to disclose their donors.
 
2013-05-28 09:57:42 AM

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: sammyk: lilbjorn: IdBeCrazyIf: I still fail to see how the IRS is a scandal other than some piss poor decisions to lump a group of applications under a bad title of names, for the purposes of making their jobs easier.

The scandal should be that any of them were actually approved.

Wouldn't it be some delicious irony if these groups get their tax exempt status pulled? Especially after they went and raised all that money. Bonus, force them to disclose the donors

They wont get their Tax Exempt status pulled. They would still be a 501 527 Non-Profit, they would just have to disclose their donors.


FTFY.
 
2013-05-28 09:57:44 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: "A recent poll broadcast on Fox News on Monday confirmed: Now, 44 percent of likely voting Americans hold a favorable view of the tea party. That's up from 30 percent a few months ago, the Rasmussen poll said."

Sounds unskewed.


A 14% jump in a month doesn't sound sustainable, even if it is accurate.
 
2013-05-28 10:00:53 AM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Uranus Is Huge!: "A recent poll broadcast on Fox News on Monday confirmed: Now, 44 percent of likely voting Americans hold a favorable view of the tea party. That's up from 30 percent a few months ago, the Rasmussen poll said."

Sounds unskewed.

A 14% jump in a month doesn't sound sustainable, even if it is accurate.


My big growth is hardly ever sustainable.
 
2013-05-28 10:04:17 AM

markfara: They're also mostly college-educated.


Yes, I believe the IRS is mostly college-educated.
 
2013-05-28 10:07:48 AM
Conservatives are most effective when they are in butthurt mode. They don't have any real policy ideas, so governing isn't their strong point.  But butthurt is something the American people truly understand, and no one does it better than conservatives. They'll be milking this "the IRS asked us insulting questions, and I never!" thing for years.
 
2013-05-28 10:10:31 AM

CorporatePerson: Citrate1007: markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.

What magical fantasy land do you live in.

I think he's doing an improv scene.


Sounds reasonable. Or it is alternate day. I still yet to see the Tea Party give two farks about the tax issue either apart from on poorly drawn billboards with whatever slogan they get told to do. For everyone one of them, there also seems to be one for how Obama is going to send them to the ovens so a secret UN army can invade and the need to return to the glory days of the Dark Ages.
 
2013-05-28 10:14:37 AM

Serious Black: The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: sammyk: lilbjorn: IdBeCrazyIf: I still fail to see how the IRS is a scandal other than some piss poor decisions to lump a group of applications under a bad title of names, for the purposes of making their jobs easier.

The scandal should be that any of them were actually approved.

Wouldn't it be some delicious irony if these groups get their tax exempt status pulled? Especially after they went and raised all that money. Bonus, force them to disclose the donors

They wont get their Tax Exempt status pulled. They would still be a 501 527 Non-Profit, they would just have to disclose their donors.

FTFY.


I'm not a lawyer so I do not pretend to know how this works. But it seems to me abusing the non-profit status for a political endeavor should get people thrown in jail. They are basically commiting fraud against the IRS, AKA tax evasion, to illegally fund political activity. When your group is called "tea-party patriots" it's obvious your primary function is political. Yet there are no prosecutions. As said above the real scandal is that any of them were approved.
 
2013-05-28 10:17:42 AM
Its obvious to even the most derpiest among us that we, The People, have lost control over our own governance. There is nothing inherently criminal about the process, but rather a slow evolution by monied interests into a system that provide the illusion of choice without actually providing any; one that offers the illusion of representation, but it is patently obvious that when money talks and our Democratic bullshiat walks.

So people turn to anyone appearing offer a way to restore the spirit of our Democracy. People like the Koch brothers are using this angst to separate stupid people from their money.
 
2013-05-28 10:20:19 AM

sammyk: Serious Black: The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: sammyk: lilbjorn: IdBeCrazyIf: I still fail to see how the IRS is a scandal other than some piss poor decisions to lump a group of applications under a bad title of names, for the purposes of making their jobs easier.

The scandal should be that any of them were actually approved.

Wouldn't it be some delicious irony if these groups get their tax exempt status pulled? Especially after they went and raised all that money. Bonus, force them to disclose the donors

They wont get their Tax Exempt status pulled. They would still be a 501 527 Non-Profit, they would just have to disclose their donors.

FTFY.

I'm not a lawyer so I do not pretend to know how this works. But it seems to me abusing the non-profit status for a political endeavor should get people thrown in jail. They are basically commiting fraud against the IRS, AKA tax evasion, to illegally fund political activity. When your group is called "tea-party patriots" it's obvious your primary function is political. Yet there are no prosecutions. As said above the real scandal is that any of them were approved.


Again, what they were seeking approval for wasn't really a tax exemption. Groups like Crossroads GPS would have easily satisfied the conditions to be a 527 group, and 527s are also tax exempt. The difference between a 501(c)(4) and a 527 is the donor disclosure rules. That's why 501(c)(4)s became much more popular in 2011 and 2012; people spending millions of dollars on the election didn't want the rest of America to know they were spending that kind of money.
 
2013-05-28 10:23:28 AM

coeyagi: They should just call their policy statement  "Articles of Impeachment for Barry Soetoro" and get it over with.


I never understood the "logic" behind, "to assert that I believe Barack Obama was actually born in Kenya, instead of calling him by his actual Kenyan last name, I'm going to call him by his Indonesian stepfather's name."
 
2013-05-28 10:30:13 AM
This scandal has taught me that fark politics threads are greenlit by some genius working at the Cleveland IRS branch.
 
MFK
2013-05-28 10:35:58 AM

markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.


9/10. Well done!
 
2013-05-28 10:38:25 AM

markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.


Maybe in your parallel universe to this own.
 
2013-05-28 10:43:11 AM

limeyfellow: CorporatePerson: Citrate1007: markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.

What magical fantasy land do you live in.

I think he's doing an improv scene.

Sounds reasonable. Or it is alternate day. I still yet to see the Tea Party give two farks about the tax issue either apart from on poorly drawn billboards with whatever slogan they get told to do. For everyone one of them, there also seems to be one for how Obama is going to send them to the ovens so a secret UN army can invade and the need to return to the glory days of the Dark Ages.


They should just start writing "I'm afraid" on them so it will fit with whatever sound bites right wing media is currently fixated on.
 
2013-05-28 10:43:58 AM

markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.


that may be the single funniest line i've ever read on fark.

11/10!
 
2013-05-28 10:51:21 AM

markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.


So the talking point that "conservative" groups parroted by both the media and our politicians is a lie, and that tea party groups were fraudulently applying for 501 status to begin with?
 
2013-05-28 10:51:34 AM
The Tea Party taken to its logical conclusion.

http://www.vice.com/read/getting-punched-by-neo-nazis-in-hungary
 
2013-05-28 10:52:59 AM
Truth in advertising slogan:

"I vote Tea Party because I am shiat-my-drawers afraid!"
 
2013-05-28 11:05:40 AM
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2013-05-28 11:10:55 AM

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Sontarian?
 
2013-05-28 11:17:25 AM
the power of the republican elite are sure
that they can get "out in front" of the tea party this time

i do expect more well finanched politicians showing up labeled as tea party
 
2013-05-28 11:26:38 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: "A recent poll broadcast on Fox News on Monday confirmed: Now, 44 percent of likely voting Americans hold a favorable view of the tea party. That's up from 30 percent a few months ago, the Rasmussen poll said."

Sounds unskewed.


Dick Morris math is amazing.
 
2013-05-28 11:41:42 AM

kregh99: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.


Obama's reelection, case in point.
 
2013-05-28 11:45:43 AM

General_Kala: kregh99: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Obama's reelection, case in point.


Still butthurt huh? You might want to get that looked at, it's not normal for your ass to pain you for such extended periods of time.
 
2013-05-28 11:49:24 AM

General_Kala: kregh99: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Obama's reelection, case in point.


There was no one else a sane person could vote for.  Everyone in the Republican primary had several disqualifiers over their heads.
 
2013-05-28 11:51:11 AM

General_Kala: kregh99: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Obama's reelection, case in point.


media.comicvine.com
 
2013-05-28 11:51:50 AM

KiltedBastich: Still butthurt huh? You might want to get that looked at, it's not normal for your ass to pain you for such extended periods of time.


My butt's just fine, thank you.  I'm flattered that it's living rent-free in your head.
 
2013-05-28 11:54:12 AM
Serious Black:

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www.reactiongifs.com
 
2013-05-28 11:59:32 AM

General_Kala: Serious Black:

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What makes him "mad"? Laughing at your stupid ass?
 
2013-05-28 12:06:27 PM

Serious Black: markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.

Maybe in your parallel universe to this own.


Having trouble parsing this sentence.
 
2013-05-28 12:07:20 PM

General_Kala: KiltedBastich: Still butthurt huh? You might want to get that looked at, it's not normal for your ass to pain you for such extended periods of time.

My butt's just fine, thank you.  I'm flattered that it's living rent-free in your head.


In the sense that I am pointing and laughing at you while you display your butthurt, sure.
 
2013-05-28 12:07:48 PM

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: laughing at your stupid ass?


sbpra.com
 
2013-05-28 12:11:05 PM
Methinks some people are biting the baited hook.
 
2013-05-28 12:12:59 PM

coeyagi: They should just call their policy statement  "Articles of Impeachment for Barry Soetoro-Hendrix-Ayers-X" and get it over with.


FTFY.
 
2013-05-28 12:14:24 PM

General_Kala: kregh99: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Obama's reelection, case in point.


Here, this is for you:

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Use it in good health.
 
2013-05-28 12:15:05 PM

studs up: Serious Black: markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.

Maybe in your parallel universe to this own.

Having trouble parsing this sentence.


In the sense that it's disconnected from reality.
 
2013-05-28 12:15:34 PM

kregh99: The Tea Party taken to its logical conclusion.

http://www.vice.com/read/getting-punched-by-neo-nazis-in-hungary


sounds legit
 
2013-05-28 12:27:10 PM

UberDave: I think they're going to climax too early.  They should have waited until June of next year.


They're still holding onto Benghazi. They can ride the IRS scandal through all of 2014.
 
2013-05-28 12:32:36 PM

General_Kala: kregh99: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Obama's reelection, case in point.


No shiat. Obama's  first election birthed the tea party and berfers, imagine what hellspawned idiocy will float to the top of the septic tank in his second. I mean, we already have Benghazi and that's but the tip.
 
2013-05-28 12:33:55 PM

balthan: UberDave: I think they're going to climax too early.  They should have waited until June of next year.

They're still holding onto Benghazi. They can ride the IRS scandal through all of 2014.


Republicans are not doing themselves a service by stretching out either Benghazi or the IRS scandals.  Both of those scandals are energizing the far right, but neither, especially not Benghazi, are seriously affecting the opinions of the electorate as a whole.  If this holds, come next election you're going to see a spate of far right candidates who can make some red districts redder, but will ultimately fail to win the key races.  So I hope you like seeing more of the same derp and gridlock in government, because that's what you're going to get through 2016 at least.
 
2013-05-28 12:36:05 PM

matthew_m_g: markfara: They're also mostly college-educated.

Yes, I believe the IRS is mostly college-educated.


Well, there you have it.  They must believe in the "science" of Mathematics, thanks to them librull professors.

/Which is why the government should not be involved in education
 
2013-05-28 12:50:39 PM

markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.


funny'd

/Surely you can't be serious?
 
2013-05-28 12:56:24 PM

markfara: They're also mostly college-educated.


Graduating from Liberty University means you're college-educated.  I feel ill just typing that.
 
2013-05-28 12:59:47 PM
So is this the Mooney Times quoting a Rasmussen poll from Fox TV? I believe them.
 
2013-05-28 01:01:15 PM

The Name: SnakeLee:  I am all for this though,  I am sure they will free up some of those nice Old Guard Republican seats given their track record

Yup.  Sounds like the Republicans didn't think their cunning plan all the way through.  Inspiring sympathy and righteous anger for a movement that has been nothing but a thorn in your side for the past four years . . . yeah, not the best idea.


Or maybe House Republicans feel it is part of their duty to oversee the working of the executive branch and are holding hearings in an unbiased search for the truth.  Maybe they just want to see the government running well.

I actually laughed out loud as I wrote that.  *snert* witch hunt...

\Issa is a thug.
 
2013-05-28 01:02:05 PM

markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
2013-05-28 01:15:38 PM

lilbjorn: UberDave: I think they're going to climax too early. They should have waited until June of next year.

I suspect that the premature climax thing is a problem for a lot of Tea Partiers.


Yep. I hear your mom's collecting their premature left-over nut one gulp at a time, cutie.
 
2013-05-28 01:16:49 PM

Serious Black: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Uranus Is Huge!: "A recent poll broadcast on Fox News on Monday confirmed: Now, 44 percent of likely voting Americans hold a favorable view of the tea party. That's up from 30 percent a few months ago, the Rasmussen poll said."

Sounds unskewed.

A 14% jump in a month doesn't sound sustainable, even if it is accurate.

My big growth is hardly ever sustainable.


Snap a rubber band around it.
 
2013-05-28 01:23:19 PM

plewis: \Issa is a thug


Unpossible.  Only unionists and people from Chicago are thugs.  Fox News said so.
 
2013-05-28 01:43:02 PM

markfara: They're also mostly college-educated.


and come from a diverse group of ethnic backgrounds!

keep going - this is hilarious!
 
2013-05-28 01:43:46 PM

FlashHarry: Uranus Is Huge!: "A recent poll broadcast on Fox News on Monday confirmed: Now, 44 percent of likely voting Americans hold a favorable view of the tea party. That's up from 30 percent a few months ago, the Rasmussen poll said."

Sounds unskewed.

rasmussen + fox... yeah, i'd say it's "likely voting republicans," not americans.


Can't even get above 50% in their "hometown."
 
2013-05-28 01:44:09 PM

SnakeLee: Here is something I just noticed.  The Contract with America was the big kick off for the Tea Party and it happened on April 15th, 2009 (aka Tax Day).  The whole point of it was to lead up to the midterm elections in 2010.  Now we are seeing the IRS "scandal" dominate conservative newspapers and the Tea Party is getting a huge influx of money at basically the exact same time leading up to the 2014 midterms.  I am all for this though,  I am sure they will free up some of those nice Old Guard Republican seats given their track record


Wasn't the contract with America Newt's deal from 1994?
Did the Tea Party really co-opt that term?
 
2013-05-28 01:46:03 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: "A recent poll broadcast on Fox News on Monday confirmed: Now, 44 percent of likely voting Americans hold a favorable view of the tea party. That's up from 30 percent a few months ago, the Rasmussen poll said."

Sounds unskewed.


Yes it does,  I  came here to ask if there was  polling from anybody else that showed the same thing.
 
2013-05-28 01:48:12 PM

markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.


citation
 
2013-05-28 02:29:14 PM
First a WND article, and now a WTimes one?  Come on, my poor brain can't process all that stupidity at once!  Next we'll see a Brietbart greenlight...*ugh*
 
2013-05-28 02:38:31 PM

Citrate1007: This feels like conservative unskewed math.....even if it isn't that means a significant majority of 56% of Americans hold an unfavorable view of the tea party.


Source, backtracking to the horse's ass -- Rasmussen that is. Nate Silver showed the degree of Rasmussen's skew against empirical reality. Also note that the question order seems likely to trigger priming; and that back in January when the number was 30% support, only 8% of the US considered themselves members of the Tea Party.
 
2013-05-28 02:49:26 PM

plewis: Issa is a thug.


Speaking of which, why isn't he being tarred and feathered by the base for keeping this secret for so long?
 
2013-05-28 03:09:30 PM

General_Kala: kregh99: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Obama's reelection, case in point.


So conservatives are responsible for 8 years of a "fiscal conservative" who pissed away a government surplus, a "compassionate conservative" who lied us into a pre-emptive war with a country that had nothing whatsoever to do with a attacking us that cost us a billion dollars a week (Bonus:  a veep who got off on torturing people), Yale "graduate" who couldn't find his ass with both hands and a map, and a "decider" who decided to put an incompetent horse trainer in charge of one of the nation's largest natural disasters... and you have the stones to criticize anybody who voted for Obama?

In examining why your guy lost, you need to consider the possibility that maybe the majority of America is just tired of conservative bullshiat.
 
2013-05-28 03:10:07 PM
the IRS scandal

It's not a scandal to target groups whose ultimate mission is to abolish the 16th Amendment.

The fact is we couldn't fight the Tea Party by getting people to straighten up, fly right, and not vote for these total selfish morons, so finding other legal ways to take them down is totally all right with me.

And yeah, it took the IRS to get Capone.
 
2013-05-28 03:21:17 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: I still fail to see how the IRS is a scandal other than some piss poor decisions to lump a group of applications under a bad title of names, for the purposes of making their jobs easier.


If you'd had 25 Tea Party applications in a row that looked extremely fishy, you'd file Tea Party applications for review as a matter of course from then on, too.
 
2013-05-28 03:27:44 PM

pornopose: markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.

funny'd

/Surely you can't be serious?


By both parties he means White and Republican
 
2013-05-28 03:35:19 PM

Serious Black: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Uranus Is Huge!: "A recent poll broadcast on Fox News on Monday confirmed: Now, 44 percent of likely voting Americans hold a favorable view of the tea party. That's up from 30 percent a few months ago, the Rasmussen poll said."

Sounds unskewed.

A 14% jump in a month doesn't sound sustainable, even if it is accurate.

My big growth is hardly ever sustainable.


www.painfulpleasures.com
 
2013-05-28 04:11:46 PM
The original tea party was originally more libertarian oriented.  The Republicans hi-jacked it shortly after it's inception and made it their own.  Now like Frankenstien and his monster the tea party will be the ultimate downfall of it's creator/sponcer.
 
2013-05-28 04:20:34 PM

RedTank: The original tea party was originally more libertarian oriented.


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2013-05-28 04:34:13 PM

The Name: RedTank: The original tea party was originally more libertarian oriented.

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it's true, but it's not relivant anymore - I despise what the tea party has become.  The two parties will continue to stifle any real new party movement like they did with the tea party.
 
2013-05-28 04:51:05 PM

RedTank: The Name: RedTank: The original tea party was originally more libertarian oriented.

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it's true, but it's not relivant anymore - I despise what the tea party has become.  The two parties will continue to stifle any real new party movement like they did with the tea party.


The Tea Party was never libertarian.  It may have adopted a libertarian tone from the RON PAUL movement that preceded it, but no movement known as the Tea Party has ever actually been libertarian.  From the beginning it has been primarily a cover for old school Republican bigotry and extreme social conservatism.
 
2013-05-28 05:00:46 PM

RedTank: The original tea party was originally more libertarian oriented.  The Republicans hi-jacked it shortly after it's inception and made it their own.  Now like Frankenstien and his monster the tea party will be the ultimate downfall of it's creator/sponcer.


Yeah, but it was still stupid.
 
2013-05-28 05:02:55 PM

The Name: The Tea Party was never libertarian.  It may have adopted a libertarian tone from the RON PAUL movement that preceded it, but no movement known as the Tea Party has ever actually been libertarian.  From the beginning it has been primarily a cover for old school Republican bigotry and extreme social conservatism.


Fair enough.  I can't argue against that point - It's merely my opinion that the Tea Party was at its most relevant and promising during Ron Paul's rise around the 08 elections.

/I just want a 3rd party so badly....
 
2013-05-28 05:05:42 PM

whidbey: RedTank: The original tea party was originally more libertarian oriented.  The Republicans hi-jacked it shortly after it's inception and made it their own.  Now like Frankenstien and his monster the tea party will be the ultimate downfall of it's creator/sponcer.

Yeah, but it was still stupid.


Perhaps, but it had potential.
 
2013-05-28 05:05:57 PM

RedTank: /I just want a 3rd party so badly....


They don't grow on the trees, you know.

How is it that so many want one "so badly" and yet there isn't one?

I know, I know. Rhetorical question.

/men or mice?
 
2013-05-28 05:09:59 PM

whidbey: RedTank: /I just want a 3rd party so badly....

They don't grow on the trees, you know.

How is it that so many want one "so badly" and yet there isn't one?

I know, I know. Rhetorical question.

/men or mice?


Something to the effect that the vast majority of people must actually be happy contrary to everything politically minded people tend to argue against.
 
2013-05-28 05:13:39 PM

RedTank: whidbey: RedTank: /I just want a 3rd party so badly....

They don't grow on the trees, you know.

How is it that so many want one "so badly" and yet there isn't one?

I know, I know. Rhetorical question.

/men or mice?

Something to the effect that the vast majority of people must actually be happy contrary to everything politically minded people tend to argue against.


Or complacent enough by our superficially high quality of life and too caught up in the means it takes to pay for it. ;)
 
2013-05-28 05:17:48 PM

markfara: The Tea Party is concerned with taxes, not social issues, and their membership draws heavily from both parties.


The dumb thing about the Tea Party, is that the original Boston Tea Party was caused by the removal of export taxes on tea shipped from London, which caused cheaper tea to arrive in Boston in competition with other tea sources. They were protesting a removal of taxes! (yes, import tax was still paid on arrival in the colonies, but the same for everyone). A protest caused by the removal of taxes being used as a model for an organization that wants to reduce taxes. A fitting model for today's dummererest Tea Party.
 
2013-05-28 05:20:20 PM

RedTank: whidbey: RedTank: The original tea party was originally more libertarian oriented.  The Republicans hi-jacked it shortly after it's inception and made it their own.  Now like Frankenstien and his monster the tea party will be the ultimate downfall of it's creator/sponcer.

Yeah, but it was still stupid.

Perhaps, but it had potential.


Don't mind me , a little bored at work here but

How, exactly?

What would you have liked to have seen out of the original movement ?
 
2013-05-28 05:30:51 PM

RedTank: The Name: The Tea Party was never libertarian.  It may have adopted a libertarian tone from the RON PAUL movement that preceded it, but no movement known as the Tea Party has ever actually been libertarian.  From the beginning it has been primarily a cover for old school Republican bigotry and extreme social conservatism.

Fair enough.  I can't argue against that point - It's merely my opinion that the Tea Party was at its most relevant and promising during Ron Paul's rise around the 08 elections.

/I just want a 3rd party so badly....


I dunno.  I'm with you in wanting a third party, but I don't think having that party come from the fiscally rightward edge of the already extremely Randian Republican Party is going to do us any good.  If anything, we need a genuine socialist party to even things out.
 
2013-05-28 05:58:39 PM
The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men:
They wont get their Tax Exempt status pulled. They would still be a 501 Non-Profit, they would just have to disclose their donors.

That should make them disappear even more quickly and permanently, since many of these republican shadow donors are too pussy to put their names to their donations. The corporations that support some of these republican candidate douchebags (or at least their CEOs) know they would catch hell from their customer base if their donations were disclosed.
 
2013-05-28 06:02:41 PM

The Name: If anything, we need a genuine socialist party to even things out.


Is socialism even popular in this country anymore?

We need a really good movie about Eugene V. Debs. Yes, even if DiCaprio plays him. ;)
 
2013-05-28 06:05:17 PM

The Name: RedTank: The Name: The Tea Party was never libertarian.  It may have adopted a libertarian tone from the RON PAUL movement that preceded it, but no movement known as the Tea Party has ever actually been libertarian.  From the beginning it has been primarily a cover for old school Republican bigotry and extreme social conservatism.

Fair enough.  I can't argue against that point - It's merely my opinion that the Tea Party was at its most relevant and promising during Ron Paul's rise around the 08 elections.

/I just want a 3rd party so badly....

I dunno.  I'm with you in wanting a third party, but I don't think having that party come from the fiscally rightward edge of the already extremely Randian Republican Party is going to do us any good.  If anything, we need a genuine socialist party to even things out.


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also, there is already a socialist party, I'm sure you are aware.
 
2013-05-28 06:14:57 PM

studs up: also, there is already a socialist party,


Just saying, if they're not going anywhere politically, they really shouldn't be wasting everyone's time pretending they're the example.
 
2013-05-28 06:21:20 PM

whidbey: studs up: also, there is already a socialist party,

Just saying, if they're not going anywhere politically, they really shouldn't be wasting everyone's time pretending they're the example.


So you're looking for a socialist party with a different name? Who is more qualified to run a socialist candidate than the socialist party? Maybe a Soros like guy can tweak the optics to make a new party look more appealing using the same platform. Is that what you are hoping for in a party not wasting people's time?
 
2013-05-28 06:32:32 PM

studs up: Who is more qualified to run a socialist candidate than the socialist party?


I don't he's qualified at all. He wasn't even a blip on the radar in the past...how many elections?

They're nobodies. They need to go back to the drawing board.
 
2013-05-28 08:21:33 PM
I care for the tea party as much as they care about me
 
2013-05-29 01:56:22 AM
You know, people don't seem to give a rat's ass about political funding and who is doing it, at least on a nationally major scale, so I have to wonder why it is that so many groups want to keep their donor lists private. It certainly isn't to hide from voters, as voters generally don't care. Of course, if you're looking at it from a "now where did that money go..." perspective.

Have we considered that the tea party is only bankrolled because bankrolling them just so happens to be a way of laundering money? They might not even care about the politics, it just might be about moving money around without oversight.
 
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