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(Daily Mail)   RANDPAUL wants you to know that Obamacare is responsible for heinous, new, medical diagnostic codes. If only he had Googled "ICD-10 codes", looked at the Wiki article, had followed the link in ref. #15 and had noted the date   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 173
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2013-05-28 12:54:22 AM  
Not the submitter, but here is the article referenced in the headline.

And that referenced article has a link to this one.
 
2013-05-28 01:08:29 AM  
Having worked in coding and claims for a decade, I can say this- specificity is never a bad thing. Often times an insurance company won't accept a diagnosis code that ends in "not otherwise specified." ICD-9 already has codes specific to what specific object pierced your skin, what specific poison you've ingested, and there's even one specifying fall in home- fall from bed. I've seen that come in on a claim before. (The reason I remember it was that the patient was 24 years old, so I laughed a little about it.)

But yeah, blaming Obamacare for the new ICD-10 codes, which have been in the works for years, is really stupid. And why does it matter anyway? "We are getting more specific on claims instead of just saying injury to thumb NOS! Facists!" Seriously.
 
2013-05-28 01:38:18 AM  
Wait until he hears about the ID10T codes...
 
2013-05-28 01:38:26 AM  
this is what our country has come to.

Complaining that an attempt to provide healthcare to more people is just terrible because "omg too many medical diagnostic codes".
 
2013-05-28 01:43:05 AM  

log_jammin: this is what our country has come to.

Complaining that an attempt to provide healthcare to more people is just terrible because "omg too many medical diagnostic codes".


It's too complicated but simplifying it with single payer is COMMUNISM!!1!
 
2013-05-28 01:47:18 AM  

kiwimoogle84: Having worked in coding and claims for a decade, I can say this- specificity is never a bad thing. Often times an insurance company won't accept a diagnosis code that ends in "not otherwise specified." ICD-9 already has codes specific to what specific object pierced your skin, what specific poison you've ingested, and there's even one specifying fall in home- fall from bed. I've seen that come in on a claim before. (The reason I remember it was that the patient was 24 years old, so I laughed a little about it.)

But yeah, blaming Obamacare for the new ICD-10 codes, which have been in the works for years, is really stupid. And why does it matter anyway? "We are getting more specific on claims instead of just saying injury to thumb NOS! Facists!" Seriously.


...and I see my work is done here...
 
2013-05-28 01:48:03 AM  
Now, you might say, "Well, turtles are dangerous..." Paul mused.

Yeah, I might say that

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-28 01:53:35 AM  

zulius: kiwimoogle84:

But yeah, blaming Obamacare for the new ICD-10 codes, which have been in the works for years, is really stupid. And why does it matter anyway? "We are getting more specific on claims instead of just saying injury to thumb NOS! Facists!" Seriously.

...and I see my work is done here...


We've been preparing to implement ICD-10 at work for quite some time now. None of these new codes surprise me. The derp surrounding HOW we classify injuries and illnesses as a reason to shoot down Obamacare is just retarded. I have personal reasons for being wary of how it actually gets implemented and what that means for my job, but I'll save that for another thread.
 
2013-05-28 01:59:17 AM  
fusillade762: Wait until he hears about the ID10T codes...

dude, you have to be some sort of genius to understand all of those
 
2013-05-28 01:59:55 AM  
Oh gee, Rand Paul being a disingenuous little twat to please his Tea Party constituents by stoking their talk-radio-led fears of healthcare reform? Color me shocked. WHERE IS MY FAINTING COUCH!
 
2013-05-28 02:04:56 AM  
Such simpletons.....
 
2013-05-28 02:07:22 AM  
Oh look. Rand Paul is spouting bullshiat again. What a shock.
 
2013-05-28 02:08:05 AM  
I was having a great day, but now I'm frightened and angry.

Eek. Grr. Eek. Grr.
 
2013-05-28 02:09:15 AM  
Does it bother you guys that people outside the country recognise who this turkey is?
 
2013-05-28 02:10:57 AM  

TalenLee: Does it bother you guys that people outside the country recognise who this turkey is?


The US has turned into England's perpetual Reality TV Show.
 
2013-05-28 02:12:26 AM  
 
2013-05-28 02:20:49 AM  
You would think a medical doctor would know things like that. I mean, otherwise he's just a lying douchebag.
 
2013-05-28 02:22:06 AM  

propasaurus: You would think a medical doctor would know things like that. I mean, otherwise he's just a lying douchebag.


You don't understand - he's *asked* doctors around the country.
 
2013-05-28 02:22:10 AM  
If Dumbya was in charge, nothing would've been said.  Why is that?
 
2013-05-28 02:29:13 AM  

bluorangefyre: If Dumbya was in charge, nothing would've been said.  Why is that?


Socialism.
 
2013-05-28 02:29:58 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Now, you might say, "Well, turtles are dangerous..." Paul mused.

Yeah, I might say that

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2013-05-28 02:31:19 AM  

propasaurus: You would think a medical doctor would know things like that. I mean, otherwise he's just a lying douchebag.


I'd expect nothing less from a doctor who created a board to certify himself.
Surprised he also didnt tout himself as the star quarterback for the University of Phoenix.
 
2013-05-28 02:32:10 AM  

zerkalo: Lionel Mandrake: Now, you might say, "Well, turtles are dangerous..." Paul mused.

Yeah, I might say that

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zerkalo: Lionel Mandrake: Now, you might say, "Well, turtles are dangerous..." Paul mused.

Yeah, I might say that

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2013-05-28 02:32:55 AM  

zerkalo: zerkalo: Lionel Mandrake: Now, you might say, "Well, turtles are dangerous..." Paul mused.

Yeah, I might say that

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zerkalo: Lionel Mandrake: Now, you might say, "Well, turtles are dangerous..." Paul mused.

Yeah, I might say that

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All night long, biatches
 
2013-05-28 02:33:39 AM  
In short, Rand Paul has no idea why medical codes exist in the first place. He obviously hasn't had something that was covered under insurance get denied(Resulting in a freeze on his medical debit card and threats of collections), requiring him to call the originating doctor's office, get a receipt faxed to him, then filled out a form and faxed the receipt on to his insurance company. This isn't just a one-off thing, it isn't specific to any single insurance company, and it doesn't happen to just me. Every time i've had a freeze on my card, no matter where I'm at, the receptionist rolls their eyes and badmouths the card system itself.

More consistent coding will result in less shiat getting bounced back. Why do the Paulies hate efficiency?

And then Bachmann thinks God is going to intervene to prevent His people from getting needed medical care? The SAME God who ignored things like the Spanish Inquisition, The Crusades, the Holocaust, 9/11, Oklahoma City, and a million other tragedies? She's as idiotic as those morons who think God watches the Super Bowl and helps Johnny Quarterback throw a perfect spiral. What a bunch of self centered pricks.
 
2013-05-28 02:34:49 AM  
15. "Feds delay ICD-10 For Two Years" - Wall Street Journal, January 15, 2009

Aha! YOU JUST THINK YOU GOTCHA'D OBAMA, BUT THE GOTCHEROO IS NOW THE GOTCHEREE.

Obama, truly history's greatest monster.
 
2013-05-28 02:37:16 AM  

fusillade762: Wait until he hears about the ID10T codes...


Most of these people are really just worried about the N-1 Double Sixer in the White House.
 
2013-05-28 02:38:58 AM  
Lying piece of shiat lies, is piece of shiat. Film at farking eleven.
 
2013-05-28 02:43:34 AM  

stoli n coke: propasaurus: You would think a medical doctor would know things like that. I mean, otherwise he's just a lying douchebag.

I'd expect nothing less from a doctor who created a board to certify himself.
Surprised he also didnt tout himself as the star quarterback for the University of Phoenix.


 I don't doubt Rand's skills as the star quarterback for the University of Phoenix. He just should have left his helmet hair back at school, he's no longer on the football field. Does he still wear his cleats because they made him taller, or is he using lifts?
 
2013-05-28 02:43:44 AM  
Is Rand Paul ignorant or a liar? You be the judge.
 
2013-05-28 02:46:23 AM  

StopLurkListen: Aha! YOU JUST THINK YOU GOTCHA'D OBAMA, BUT THE GOTCHEROO IS NOW THE GOTCHEREE.


9 out of 10 times someone gotchas obama, they know they are lying and only care about their moronic constituents. Obama's reelection is proof that the american people are slightly too intelligent and informed to buy into that crap. Only slightly :/
 
2013-05-28 02:49:00 AM  

log_jammin: this is what our country has come to.

Complaining that an attempt to provide healthcare to more people is just terrible because "omg too many medical diagnostic codes".


you should check out the comments.  I had no idea the Daily Fail was filled with so many foaming at the mouth conservatives.
 
2013-05-28 02:54:09 AM  

timujin: log_jammin: this is what our country has come to.

Complaining that an attempt to provide healthcare to more people is just terrible because "omg too many medical diagnostic codes".

you should check out the comments.  I had no idea the Daily Fail was filled with so many foaming at the mouth conservatives.


Seriously. I only scrolled down to look at the comments because you mentioned it. Boy those British are stupid Oh fer God's sake, they're almost all Americans.

This one is grand:
Don't you guys have tons of websites not ending in .co.uk you can be idiots on?

- Fishchip, Victoria_BC, 28/5/2013 07:10
 
2013-05-28 02:58:26 AM  
RANDPAUL has no problem with "whites only" restaurants. He's not holding the moral high ground here.
 
2013-05-28 03:00:35 AM  

timujin: I had no idea the Daily Fail was filled with so many foaming at the mouth conservatives.


The daily mail strives to be the source of as many forwarded emails as it can.

seriously.
 
2013-05-28 03:05:06 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: TalenLee: Does it bother you guys that people outside the country recognise who this turkey is?

The US has turned into England's perpetual Reality TV Show.


Not just England!
 
2013-05-28 03:15:28 AM  
Rand Paul is a fake doctor accredited by his own fake optometry board, it's no wonder that he's upset by the complexities of actually practicing medicine.
 
2013-05-28 03:28:06 AM  

Mikey1969: In short, Rand Paul has no idea why medical codes exist in the first place. He obviously hasn't had something that was covered under insurance get denied(Resulting in a freeze on his medical debit card and threats of collections), requiring him to call the originating doctor's office, get a receipt faxed to him, then filled out a form and faxed the receipt on to his insurance company. This isn't just a one-off thing, it isn't specific to any single insurance company, and it doesn't happen to just me. Every time i've had a freeze on my card, no matter where I'm at, the receptionist rolls their eyes and badmouths the card system itself.

More consistent coding will result in less shiat getting bounced back. Why do the Paulies hate efficiency?

And then Bachmann thinks God is going to intervene to prevent His people from getting needed medical care? The SAME God who ignored things like the Spanish Inquisition, The Crusades, the Holocaust, 9/11, Oklahoma City, and a million other tragedies? She's as idiotic as those morons who think God watches the Super Bowl and helps Johnny Quarterback throw a perfect spiral. What a bunch of self centered pricks.


Why? Why indeed?
 
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2013-05-28 04:19:36 AM  

KelvinTheClown: fusillade762: Wait until he hears about the ID10T codes...

Most of these people are really just worried about the N-1 Double Sixer in the White House.


a nibber? what is that? maybe 9s would work better... no?
 
2013-05-28 04:37:24 AM  
I've a very good friend who works in medical billing. Replies, kick, etc.
 
2013-05-28 05:28:24 AM  
How cumbersome is health care accounting in those first world nations where medical expenses are not among the top causes of bankruptcy?
 
2013-05-28 05:34:32 AM  

kiwimoogle84: Having worked in coding and claims for a decade, I can say this- specificity is never a bad thing. Often times an insurance company won't accept a diagnosis code that ends in "not otherwise specified." ICD-9 already has codes specific to what specific object pierced your skin, what specific poison you've ingested, and there's even one specifying fall in home- fall from bed. I've seen that come in on a claim before. (The reason I remember it was that the patient was 24 years old, so I laughed a little about it.)

But yeah, blaming Obamacare for the new ICD-10 codes, which have been in the works for years, is really stupid. And why does it matter anyway? "We are getting more specific on claims instead of just saying injury to thumb NOS! Facists!" Seriously.


Falling out of bed is no joke! I am 28 and nearly died falling out of bed nearly three months ago! Ok, I only dislocated my shoulder but shiat happens. Not laughing at the 4000 plus I owe as a result.


Still, could be worse.
 
2013-05-28 05:59:13 AM  

bbfreak: Falling out of bed is no joke! I am 28 and nearly died falling out of bed nearly three months ago! Ok, I only dislocated my shoulder but shiat happens. Not laughing at the 4000 plus I owe as a result.


Falls are one of the leading causes of death for elderly patients, and are one of the major reasons, along with COPD and Strokes, that they end up in the nursing home.

People laugh at the thought of fall as a medical diagnosis and target disease for prevention, until their hip is fractured at 70 and they require billy bob the underpaid and understaffed CNA to clean up their messes in the local medicare home.
 
2013-05-28 06:12:54 AM  
"Not intended to be a rational statement."
 
2013-05-28 06:14:42 AM  
It doesn't matter that this is gibberish. Every teabagger I know will be spouting off about this .
 
2013-05-28 06:19:29 AM  
Well, as a doctor, I'm surprised he's not happy with the idea of a more organized claim system which might help small providers get insurance claims through instead of being denies because of half a dozen stupid goddamn reasons.

It's not often you see a "doctor" side with those poor insurance companies.
 
2013-05-28 06:20:26 AM  
A doctor not understanding the business of medicine?  Color me surprised.

/works in medicine
//bosses are doctors
 
2013-05-28 06:27:47 AM  
FTFA: Obamacare regulations contain two separate doctor diagnosis codes for injuries sustained from turtles. Were you bitten, or did you collide with this slow creature? Uncle Sam wants to know.

Yeah, it's as if that dagburn Dimmycrat varmint thinks you'd sustain different injuries from being bitten than from stubbing your toe.
 
2013-05-28 06:31:41 AM  
FTFA:

i.dailymail.co.uk

DEFUND PLANNED PARENTHOOD!
 
2013-05-28 06:33:22 AM  

Mikey1969: Why do the Paulies hate efficiency?


Efficiency eliminates middle men. A large number of businesses exist solely to be the middle man in poorly design data flows. Last thing they want is for things to be streamlined. And in this particular case, anything that assists insurance companies in making claims easier to deny is good for business.
 
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