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(The Age (Melbourne))   Bad: The blueprints for a new building have been leaked via a hack. Oh Fark: The blueprints are for the new HQ of Australia's homeland intelligence agency   (theage.com.au) divider line 47
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2013-05-28 12:30:27 AM
I wonder how many Bothans died to bring someone that information?
 
2013-05-28 12:50:56 AM
That's what they want you to think.
 
2013-05-28 01:11:37 AM

Herr Docktor Heinrich Wisenheimer: That's what they want you to think.


But they know we will think that it's what they want us to think, so it really is the plan.
 
2013-05-28 01:35:20 AM
I want to know what happened to the plans they sent them.
www.wired.com
 
2013-05-28 01:39:29 AM
I did some urban exploring when at college, and one time found a set of full blueprints for a museum. Lights, security systems, emergency access, the works. They weren't somewhere i tresspassed either, but in a pile of trash outside.
 
2013-05-28 01:39:45 AM

whither_apophis: Herr Docktor Heinrich Wisenheimer: That's what they want you to think.

But they know we will think that it's what they want us to think, so it really is the plan.


www.foodrepublic.cominconceivable
 
2013-05-28 01:42:20 AM
i2.ytimg.com

ASIO... they use that F-91W technique.
 
2013-05-28 01:47:53 AM
I've got five bucks says they'll build it upside down.
 
2013-05-28 01:57:22 AM
Almost the same happened in Germany for the new headquarters of the state security, or homeland security, or whatever we are calling it these days.
The plans detailing the inner workings of the building, i.e. access points, alarms, crawlspaces and so on, were stolen from the building site.

That's some great security right there, no? Good thing they can monitor everyone on a whim, but the construction site apparently not. I agree that nobody will do anything with those plans, as the terror threat is mostly made up...
 
2013-05-28 01:58:31 AM
Homeland intelligence agency? If Hitler lost, why does he retain the naming rights for this stuff?
 
2013-05-28 02:02:52 AM
Blueprints for office buildings aren't usually considered top-secret, mainly since you can generally guess 99% of them if you've ever been in any office building ever, and they won't actually help you figure out who's in which office.

Still, pretty funny.  Good on that hacker for having a good sense of humor.
 
2013-05-28 02:03:11 AM
members.home.nl

/what
 
2013-05-28 02:03:55 AM
Ah, no worries, mates. We just put up a few beer stands at the perimeter, then have the roo range, then the snakes, then the spiders and , for good measure- a croc filled maot. Not with freshies, mind you, but good old salties. Those buggers get hungry. Failing all of that, we will launch our elite Cassowary squadrons.
 
2013-05-28 02:06:16 AM

alienated: Ah, no worries, mates. We just put up a few beer stands at the perimeter, then have the roo range, then the snakes, then the spiders and , for good measure- a croc filled maot. Not with freshies, mind you, but good old salties. Those buggers get hungry. Failing all of that, we will launch our elite Cassowary squadrons.


No drop bears?
 
2013-05-28 02:09:29 AM
Not a problem really; just turn the entire building 45 degrees to the right and no one be able to use the original plans....
 
2013-05-28 02:10:15 AM

Bane of Broone: No drop bears?


Heh. Secret weapon that is, eh ? Plus we have vats of this horrible substance called Fosters thats will be deployed via stubbies . Its all top secret, mind you, so dont let a soul in onit, right ?
 
2013-05-28 02:23:26 AM
Now how long until China says its scripted "it's not us" / "stop blaming us" when their hand is clearly in the cookie jar? Or is that reserved for the US where relations are not as close(Clinton notwithstanding) and blame is immediately implied? Then again, as closely dependent as Australia is to the PRC, why would they bother with the plans of something that probably is already designed to hand secrets to Red China? In any case, the smart thing to do would be to demolish it and rebuild off of different plans. Expensive as fark, but at least the building doesnt come pre-bugged and/or otherwise unfit for purpose.
 
2013-05-28 02:30:12 AM

sethstorm: Now how long until China says its scripted "it's not us" / "stop blaming us" when their hand is clearly in the cookie jar? Or is that reserved for the US where relations are not as close(Clinton notwithstanding) and blame is immediately implied?

Then again, as closely dependent as Australia is to the PRC, why would they bother with the plans of something that probably is already designed to hand secrets to Red China?

In any case, the smart thing to do would be to demolish it and rebuild off of different plans. Expensive as fark, but at least the building doesnt come pre-bugged and/or otherwise unfit for purpose.


Formatting FTFM
 
2013-05-28 02:30:28 AM

sethstorm: Now how long until China says its scripted "it's not us" / "stop blaming us" when their hand is clearly in the cookie jar? Or is that reserved for the US where relations are not as close(Clinton notwithstanding) and blame is immediately implied? Then again, as closely dependent as Australia is to the PRC, why would they bother with the plans of something that probably is already designed to hand secrets to Red China? In any case, the smart thing to do would be to demolish it and rebuild off of different plans. Expensive as fark, but at least the building doesnt come pre-bugged and/or otherwise unfit for purpose.




They come pre bugged anyhow. Apparently construction workers and contractors are like the easiest thing ever to sneak agents in to, so it's extremely common practice for them to constantly plant bugs etc during construction. I think I read when they were building one of ours, they pulled something like 600 bugging devices out over the course of a 15 month construction. Like, mind boggling statistics.
 
2013-05-28 02:40:54 AM
Once you put the words "homeland" and "intelligence" in the same sentence, you sound like the United States which uses these words to mean "we cannot do shiat, including balance a simple budget".

I think it will be OK.
 
2013-05-28 02:49:00 AM

Alonjar: They come pre bugged anyhow. Apparently construction workers and contractors are like the easiest thing ever to sneak agents in to, so it's extremely common practice for them to constantly plant bugs etc during construction. I think I read when they were building one of ours, they pulled something like 600 bugging devices out over the course of a 15 month construction. Like, mind boggling statistics.


However, there is a point where the only recourse is to demolish the building and start from scratch.  In the case of the US, it happened to some embassy IIRC.
 
2013-05-28 02:56:51 AM
Hacking?

Social engineering.
 
2013-05-28 03:03:40 AM
"It's fascinating what fifty bucks will get you at the county recorder's office."

content6.flixster.com

/too many secrets
 
2013-05-28 03:06:45 AM
To be fair, it's a very small building.
 
2013-05-28 03:06:53 AM

Triumph: Homeland intelligence agency? If Hitler lost, why does he retain the naming rights for this stuff?


How many of you would've been able to figure out the headline if I had used ASIO instead?

/subby
//If it were in the UK, I'd have used MI-5 in a heartbeat.
 
2013-05-28 03:09:50 AM

Alleyoop: "It's fascinating what fifty bucks will get you at the county recorder's office."

[content6.flixster.com image 320x180]

/too many secrets


Setec Astronomy?
 
2013-05-28 03:10:20 AM

Triumph: Homeland intelligence agency? If Hitler lost, why does he retain the naming rights for this stuff?


Came here to say something similar. Shame on subby for perpetuating that crap name. Where uin the acronymn ASIO is "homeland". Stop this nonsense you petty fascists.
 
2013-05-28 03:20:00 AM

miss diminutive: Setec Astronomy?


Some days I love this site. They filmed the business park scenes  about a mile north of me. It  was a countrywide mortgage building . I temped in the vault a few years before the film reviewing mortgage documents. It was an odd ensemble of actors, but I will admit I still like the film.
For those who wish to see part of the building- take the 118 east from the 23 north , its about 300 meters on the north side past Madera road
 
2013-05-28 03:20:41 AM

miss diminutive: I wonder how many Bothans died to bring someone that information?


This always bugged me. Are Bothans the star wars equivalent to sentient lemmings? How many bothans died to change a light?.
 
2013-05-28 03:29:37 AM

sethstorm: Alonjar: They come pre bugged anyhow. Apparently construction workers and contractors are like the easiest thing ever to sneak agents in to, so it's extremely common practice for them to constantly plant bugs etc during construction. I think I read when they were building one of ours, they pulled something like 600 bugging devices out over the course of a 15 month construction. Like, mind boggling statistics.

However, there is a point where the only recourse is to demolish the building and start from scratch.  In the case of the US, it happened to some embassy IIRC.


Now that I'm thinking about it, didnt this  exact thing happen to MI5/MI6 within the last decade or two?  Blueprints got stolen for their whole new complex.
 
2013-05-28 03:49:45 AM

Triumph: Homeland intelligence agency? If Hitler lost, why does he retain the naming rights for this stuff?


You're thinking of Stalin
The Russian for KGB is Kommunitet Gosudarstvennoi Bezopasnostye
...Committee for Governmental Safety or
Homeland Security Committee (agency)
 
2013-05-28 05:55:10 AM
Ah. Yet another country builds a palace dedicated to paranoia.

We human are a silly bunch.
 
2013-05-28 06:02:00 AM

alienated: Ah, no worries, mates. We just put up a few beer stands at the perimeter, then have the roo range, then the snakes, then the spiders and , for good measure- a croc filled maot. Not with freshies, mind you, but good old salties. Those buggers get hungry. Failing all of that, we will launch our elite Cassowary squadrons.


What about a Donk?

Donk
 
2013-05-28 06:07:42 AM

sethstorm: Alonjar: They come pre bugged anyhow. Apparently construction workers and contractors are like the easiest thing ever to sneak agents in to, so it's extremely common practice for them to constantly plant bugs etc during construction. I think I read when they were building one of ours, they pulled something like 600 bugging devices out over the course of a 15 month construction. Like, mind boggling statistics.

However, there is a point where the only recourse is to demolish the building and start from scratch.  In the case of the US, it happened to some embassy IIRC.


US embassy in Moscow, 70's.
 
2013-05-28 07:15:17 AM
The Cone of Silence
.encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

// Or immigration control
/// oh know you didn't.
 
2013-05-28 07:31:34 AM
These are blueprints:

4.bp.blogspot.com


What was stolen was either a PDF, or a bunch of CAD/Revit files. A 'blueprint' is the name of a specific method of reproducing a technical drawing.

/pet peeve
 
2013-05-28 07:33:53 AM

INeedAName: alienated: Ah, no worries, mates. We just put up a few beer stands at the perimeter, then have the roo range, then the snakes, then the spiders and , for good measure- a croc filled maot. Not with freshies, mind you, but good old salties. Those buggers get hungry. Failing all of that, we will launch our elite Cassowary squadrons.

What about a Donk?

Donk


I will allow your Donk. Please Proceed
 
2013-05-28 08:03:32 AM
Won't matter, there will be anothet 10 addendi while the layout is changed for the upteenth time.

I swear, CAD and the internet make for design engineers who don't double check their own work.

/and who uses 'blueprint' these days?
 
2013-05-28 08:27:47 AM
why the hell isn't this public information in the first place?

they took your guns, and your BALLS, you criminal alcoholics.
 
2013-05-28 08:55:18 AM
DAMMIT CRIKEY CHLOE!
 
2013-05-28 09:00:25 AM
The viral marketing plans for Skyfall are running a little late...
 
2013-05-28 09:13:39 AM
No worries about someone breaking in, there are plenty of other hazards on that continent.

Seriously, why do you Aussies live in a place that seems designed to kill you as quickly and as efficiently as possible?
 
2013-05-28 09:15:55 AM
 
2013-05-28 11:15:08 AM
What should I do, mule skinner?


Sir, that man doesn't know anything.


What do you say, mule skinner?


Should I go down there, or withdraw?


I had him.


But this time what I held in my hand


wasn't a knife, but the truth
.


Well?


What's your answer, mule skinner?


General,...


...you go down there.


- You're saying, go into the coulee?


- Yes, sir.


There are no Indians there, I suppose?


I didn't say that.


There are thousands of Indians down there ...


...and when they get done  with you,...


...there won't be nothing left but a greasy spot.


This ain't the Washiata River, General ...


...and them ain't helpless women  and children waiting for you.


They're Cheyenne brave, and Sioux.


You go down there if you got the nerve.


Still trying to outsmart me,  aren't you, mule skinner? You want me to think thatyou don't want me to go down there,...


...but the subtle truth is you really


don't want me to go down there.


Well, are you reassured now, Major?
 
2013-05-28 12:07:13 PM

LemSkroob: These are blueprints:

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x566]


What was stolen was either a PDF, or a bunch of CAD/Revit files. A 'blueprint' is the name of a specific method of reproducing a technical drawing.

/pet peeve


No, those are bluelines from an obsolete reprographic method known as diazo.

/in a previous life when I was poor I was a reprographics puke
 
Ehh
2013-05-28 01:41:10 PM

Alonjar: sethstorm: Now how long until China says its scripted "it's not us" / "stop blaming us" when their hand is clearly in the cookie jar? Or is that reserved for the US where relations are not as close(Clinton notwithstanding) and blame is immediately implied? Then again, as closely dependent as Australia is to the PRC, why would they bother with the plans of something that probably is already designed to hand secrets to Red China? In any case, the smart thing to do would be to demolish it and rebuild off of different plans. Expensive as fark, but at least the building doesnt come pre-bugged and/or otherwise unfit for purpose.

They come pre bugged anyhow. Apparently construction workers and contractors are like the easiest thing ever to sneak agents in to, so it's extremely common practice for them to constantly plant bugs etc during construction. I think I read when they were building one of ours, they pulled something like 600 bugging devices out over the course of a 15 month construction. Like, mind boggling statistics.


IIRC, the America allowed (had no choice but to?) Russian construction companies to build its Moscow embassy during the Cold War. The place was buggier than a beehive.
 
2013-05-28 02:46:56 PM

Alonjar: sethstorm: Now how long until China says its scripted "it's not us" / "stop blaming us" when their hand is clearly in the cookie jar? Or is that reserved for the US where relations are not as close(Clinton notwithstanding) and blame is immediately implied? Then again, as closely dependent as Australia is to the PRC, why would they bother with the plans of something that probably is already designed to hand secrets to Red China? In any case, the smart thing to do would be to demolish it and rebuild off of different plans. Expensive as fark, but at least the building doesnt come pre-bugged and/or otherwise unfit for purpose.

They come pre bugged anyhow. Apparently construction workers and contractors are like the easiest thing ever to sneak agents in to, so it's extremely common practice for them to constantly plant bugs etc during construction. I think I read when they were building one of ours, they pulled something like 600 bugging devices out over the course of a 15 month construction. Like, mind boggling statistics.


The American Embassy in Moscow had enough bugs to make up main frame computer.
 
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