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(BBC)   Man born in jail comes up with cash to bail his mom out 19 years later. All $180 dollars of it   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 55
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2013-05-28 12:45:24 AM
I bought my mother a DVD for Mother's Day.....
 
2013-05-28 12:48:29 AM
this is why we cant have nice things
 
2013-05-28 01:01:43 AM
That has to be the most depressing thing I've read in a long time. Poor woman.
 
2013-05-28 01:23:50 AM
Obviously this is the fault of regulation and taxing the rich.
 
2013-05-28 01:54:41 AM
Man born in jail comes up with cash to bailA lawyer, who got his mom out 19 years later. All $180 dollars of it
 
2013-05-28 02:54:29 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-28 02:58:20 AM
The whole story seems barbaric, but to me the oddest part was that they had her raising the child in prison, until she made the decision to send him away outside.  He wasn't just born there, he was an inmate.  Geaauuurrrgh.
 
2013-05-28 02:59:08 AM
I screamed at my mother (and everyone else, big time), and forced her into the car for mother's day.
Typical Tommy with the drama!
Everyone was PISSED off at me for ruining mother's day, thinking I was drunk or something, which I was not.
She was having a stroke, didn't know it,  and didn't believe me.

Two hours later, she was in intensive care, and we were discussing DNR orders, which I refused to sign off on.
She spent 4 days there, gradually got better, and is due home in a few days with most of her functions intact.
She's not mad at me, nor is her family and they're looking forward to her coming home because these shirts don't iron themselves you know.
 
2013-05-28 03:02:10 AM

TommyymmoT: I screamed at my mother (and everyone else, big time), and forced her into the car for mother's day.
Typical Tommy with the drama!
Everyone was PISSED off at me for ruining mother's day, thinking I was drunk or something, which I was not.
She was having a stroke, didn't know it,  and didn't believe me.

Two hours later, she was in intensive care, and we were discussing DNR orders, which I refused to sign off on.
She spent 4 days there, gradually got better, and is due home in a few days with most of her functions intact.
She's not mad at me, nor is her family and they're looking forward to her coming home because these shirts don't iron themselves you know.


Wow, good on you sir.  I'd rub their faces in it big time if it were me..
 
2013-05-28 03:08:09 AM

HotWingAgenda: The whole story seems barbaric, but to me the oddest part was that they had her raising the child in prison, until she made the decision to send him away outside.  He wasn't just born there, he was an inmate.  Geaauuurrrgh.


Happens in a lot of third world countries where they don't have the equivalent of Child Protective Services.  The kids aren't prisoners there, but they often have no place to go and feel it is more humane to let the child be raised by his mother than send him off to the streets.
 
2013-05-28 03:08:38 AM
Just delayed is justice denied.  How can a person spend 19 years in prison without a proper trial?  The justice system in India is nonexistent if you don't have any money.
 
2013-05-28 03:08:47 AM
Great, another convicted murderer loose on the streets. Just what we need.

They should have put a bullet in mom the first time, and a bullet in the kid on genetic pre-disposition grounds.
 
2013-05-28 03:11:37 AM

HotWingAgenda: The whole story seems barbaric, but to me the oddest part was that they had her raising the child in prison, until she made the decision to send him away outside.  He wasn't just born there, he was an inmate.  Geaauuurrrgh.


My favorite part is her being in there for nineteen years on a --murder-- charge without a trial. Wouldn't the victim's family gotten a bit itchy for a conviction by now?
 
2013-05-28 03:12:04 AM
180 double-dollars!
 
2013-05-28 03:13:29 AM

Bonzo_1116: HotWingAgenda: The whole story seems barbaric, but to me the oddest part was that they had her raising the child in prison, until she made the decision to send him away outside.  He wasn't just born there, he was an inmate.  Geaauuurrrgh.

My favorite part is her being in there for nineteen years on a --murder-- charge without a trial. Wouldn't the victim's family gotten a bit itchy for a conviction by now?


Oh damn, she's out on appeal.

/shouldn't fark while half-asleep
 
2013-05-28 03:14:56 AM

Bonzo_1116: HotWingAgenda: The whole story seems barbaric, but to me the oddest part was that they had her raising the child in prison, until she made the decision to send him away outside.  He wasn't just born there, he was an inmate.  Geaauuurrrgh.

My favorite part is her being in there for nineteen years on a --murder-- charge without a trial. Wouldn't the victim's family gotten a bit itchy for a conviction by now?


They know the cops picked her up and locked her away.  India hardly ever uses capital punishment, so what more could they want?
 
2013-05-28 03:20:43 AM

Bonzo_1116: HotWingAgenda: The whole story seems barbaric, but to me the oddest part was that they had her raising the child in prison, until she made the decision to send him away outside.  He wasn't just born there, he was an inmate.  Geaauuurrrgh.

My favorite part is her being in there for nineteen years on a --murder-- charge without a trial. Wouldn't the victim's family gotten a bit itchy for a conviction by now?


Makes me wonder if there was even a murder.
 
2013-05-28 03:24:53 AM

ShawnDoc: Happens in a lot of third world countries where they don't have the equivalent of Child Protective Services.  The kids aren't prisoners there, but they often have no place to go and feel it is more humane to let the child be raised by his mother than send him off to the streets.


I'd also like to point out that most 3rd world prisons are nothing like American prisons.  They are more like little villages that you cant leave.  The people arent actually crammed into cells, you wander around, work jobs for money, buy food from the store, etc.  Theres just walls around the outside of the community to keep you from leaving.


Bonzo_1116: My favorite part is her being in there for nineteen years on a --murder-- charge without a trial. Wouldn't the victim's family gotten a bit itchy for a conviction by now?


Why would they care about a conviction?  She was going to stay in prison without it.  From what I understand this is just how the Indian justice system works.
 
Ni
2013-05-28 03:25:54 AM
$180 bail for murder.

You can bet it'll be a while before her court.
 
2013-05-28 03:28:37 AM

Gyrfalcon: Makes me wonder if there was even a murder.


pure conjecture here, but I wouldn't be surprised if the run away husband/dad had set something her up so he had an excuse to run off.
 
2013-05-28 03:30:46 AM

Alonjar: I'd also like to point out that most 3rd world prisons are nothing like American prisons.  They are more like little villages that you cant leave.  The people arent actually crammed into cells, you wander around, work jobs for money, buy food from the store, etc.  Theres just walls around the outside of the community to keep you from leaving.


every time I watch a show about those places, it blows my mind. They'll mention the Warden or something and I just think "why is there a warden? wtf is there for him to do?"
 
2013-05-28 03:32:04 AM

Ni: $180 bail for murder.

You can bet it'll be a while before her court.


Out on bail for murder?
HELLOOOOO MEXICO!
 
2013-05-28 03:35:02 AM

log_jammin: every time I watch a show about those places, it blows my mind. They'll mention the Warden or something and I just think "why is there a warden? wtf is there for him to do?"


Somebody has to manage all the bribe/extortion money.
 
2013-05-28 03:36:18 AM

Alonjar: ShawnDoc: Happens in a lot of third world countries where they don't have the equivalent of Child Protective Services.  The kids aren't prisoners there, but they often have no place to go and feel it is more humane to let the child be raised by his mother than send him off to the streets.

I'd also like to point out that most 3rd world prisons are nothing like American prisons.  They are more like little villages that you cant leave.  The people arent actually crammed into cells, you wander around, work jobs for money, buy food from the store, etc.  Theres just walls around the outside of the community to keep you from leaving.


Bonzo_1116: My favorite part is her being in there for nineteen years on a --murder-- charge without a trial. Wouldn't the victim's family gotten a bit itchy for a conviction by now?

Why would they care about a conviction?  She was going to stay in prison without it.  From what I understand this is just how the Indian justice system works.


Or the US system for brown people.
 
2013-05-28 03:41:44 AM

lucksi: Alonjar: ShawnDoc: Happens in a lot of third world countries where they don't have the equivalent of Child Protective Services.  The kids aren't prisoners there, but they often have no place to go and feel it is more humane to let the child be raised by his mother than send him off to the streets.

I'd also like to point out that most 3rd world prisons are nothing like American prisons.  They are more like little villages that you cant leave.  The people arent actually crammed into cells, you wander around, work jobs for money, buy food from the store, etc.  Theres just walls around the outside of the community to keep you from leaving.


Bonzo_1116: My favorite part is her being in there for nineteen years on a --murder-- charge without a trial. Wouldn't the victim's family gotten a bit itchy for a conviction by now?

Why would they care about a conviction?  She was going to stay in prison without it.  From what I understand this is just how the Indian justice system works.

Or the US system for brown people.


Or hell, for men in general. If you're a pretty little white lady, you're pretty much guaranteed to skate. Doubly so if you're a celebrity.
 
2013-05-28 03:47:02 AM

TommyymmoT: She was having a stroke, didn't know it, and didn't believe me.


Well that's about the best mothers day present ever.

\Mother died of a stroke on mothers day 1993.
 
2013-05-28 03:52:42 AM
Its a shame that there are con artists on the net; when someone comes around who really could use the money no one cares because they believe its a con.
 
2013-05-28 04:05:06 AM

gibbon1: TommyymmoT: She was having a stroke, didn't know it, and didn't believe me.

Well that's about the best mothers day present ever.

\Mother died of a stroke on mothers day 1993.


Sorry to hear it.

It was a real scene.
My sister in law was about to call the cops.
 
2013-05-28 06:37:38 AM

Alonjar: ShawnDoc: Happens in a lot of third world countries where they don't have the equivalent of Child Protective Services.  The kids aren't prisoners there, but they often have no place to go and feel it is more humane to let the child be raised by his mother than send him off to the streets.

I'd also like to point out that most 3rd world prisons are nothing like American prisons.  They are more like little villages that you cant leave.  The people arent actually crammed into cells, you wander around, work jobs for money, buy food from the store, etc.  Theres just walls around the outside of the community to keep you from leaving.


Bonzo_1116: My favorite part is her being in there for nineteen years on a --murder-- charge without a trial. Wouldn't the victim's family gotten a bit itchy for a conviction by now?

Why would they care about a conviction?  She was going to stay in prison without it.  From what I understand this is just how the Indian justice system works.


Well then, it's all good. Sounds like she had a lovely time.
 
2013-05-28 06:53:06 AM
Remind me again why I'm supposed to respect this culture.
 
2013-05-28 06:58:55 AM

lucksi: Or the US system for brown people.


Yup. In the US, poor people who are disproportionately racial minorities, can often stay in jail on serious charges for years while their overworked public defender tries to put something of a defense together because they can't afford bail.  Bail is set way too high to force people go through bondsmen. Bondsmen argue that this is good because they'll bring in the person if they flee, but only something like 2% of people that skip out on bail are brought back in by the bondsmen. The vast majority are picked up on a traffic violation or similar. And yet, the system of setting bail so high that lots of lower income people can't even afford the 10% continues. The reason, shockingly, rhymes with "hobbyist."
 
2013-05-28 07:01:43 AM

TommyymmoT: gibbon1: TommyymmoT: She was having a stroke, didn't know it, and didn't believe me.

Well that's about the best mothers day present ever.

\Mother died of a stroke on mothers day 1993.

Sorry to hear it.

It was a real scene.
My sister in law was about to call the cops.


Do you fart in your SiL's general direction every time she's around? I would.
 
2013-05-28 07:21:35 AM

Kyosuke: Remind me again why I'm supposed to respect this culture.


remind me why we're not supposed to.
 
2013-05-28 07:23:56 AM

OgreMagi: Just delayed is justice denied.  How can a person spend 19 years in prison without a proper trial?  The justice system in India is nonexistent if you don't have any money.


Too often it is exactly the same in western nations.
 
2013-05-28 07:40:46 AM

Bonzo_1116: /shouldn't fark while half-asleep


You'd think your mom reminded you enough times.
 
2013-05-28 08:06:12 AM

log_jammin: Kyosuke: Remind me again why I'm supposed to respect this culture.

remind me why we're not supposed to.


No one said that you're not supposed to.
 
2013-05-28 08:11:23 AM

cman: Its a shame that there are con artists on the net; when someone comes around who really could use the money no one cares because they believe its a con.


Especially when their story doesn't make sense with our culture.  He would've took another 19 years if he had to get the money from Americans, because quite frankly none of us are really getting around the concept of $180 must be paid or you die in prison.  I am sure we would all be 'What $180 is all you need to get your mom out, sure yeah right buddy'.

/Please help me, I need $157 to get my cousin released from jail for stealing a bicycle.  He has been in jail for 14 years, we would like him to be home with his family before his mom dies.
//plausible, but we wouldn't believe it.
 
2013-05-28 08:18:15 AM
Lucky for her she had a boy vice a girl which she would have aborted
 
2013-05-28 08:18:31 AM

turbocucumber: OgreMagi: Just delayed is justice denied.  How can a person spend 19 years in prison without a proper trial?  The justice system in India is nonexistent if you don't have any money.

Too often it is exactly the same in western nations.


This sort of delayed justice issue was going on in the US in the late 1970's
Difficult to remember exact details but I'm thinking "The Tombs" and "Rikers Island" figured prominently in this somehow.  Yeah the more I dredge my memory the more I remember some of the horror stories about not making bail and being left for years.
So, not just India . . .
 
2013-05-28 08:42:43 AM
When the son was asked why he didn't bail her out sooner he just said "sari".
 
2013-05-28 08:49:30 AM

TommyymmoT: She was having a stroke, didn't know it,  and didn't believe me.


How did you know? O_o Please share.
 
2013-05-28 08:53:32 AM

rocky_howard: How did you know? O_o Please share.


O_o is one clue.  Warning Signs of Stroke
 
2013-05-28 08:56:17 AM
  I know the meaning of those nineteen years; a slave of the law...

/24601
 
2013-05-28 08:59:46 AM
Thanks for pointing out the kid's lisp.  That'll make him feel better.
 
2013-05-28 09:07:24 AM

Jackie Onanist: I know the meaning of those nineteen years; a slave of the law...

/24601


Hey now, it was was only five for what you did. Maybe if you hadn't tried to run ...

/dare you talk to me of crime?
 
2013-05-28 09:30:37 AM
You mean I can get all stabby as long as I bring a buck eighty?
 
2013-05-28 10:46:40 AM

Kyosuke: Remind me again why I'm supposed to respect this culture.


Who told you that you were supposed to?  Maybe you should ask them why.

OgreMagi: Just delayed is justice denied.  How can a person spend 19 years in prison without a proper trial?  The justice system in India is nonexistent if you don't have any money.


I'm glad I live in America, where innocent people never go to jail and poor people get representation equal to that of the rich..
 
2013-05-28 10:53:54 AM
Aaaand cue Nancy Grace...
 
2013-05-28 10:56:50 AM

ukexpat: Aaaand cue Nancy Grace...


Nancy doesn't give a f*ck.  There's no pretty white girl involved.
 
2013-05-28 12:00:45 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Kyosuke: Remind me again why I'm supposed to respect this culture.

Who told you that you were supposed to?  Maybe you should ask them why.

OgreMagi: Just delayed is justice denied.  How can a person spend 19 years in prison without a proper trial?  The justice system in India is nonexistent if you don't have any money.

I'm glad I live in America, where innocent people never go to jail and poor people get representation equal to that of the rich..


It must suck to live in such a black&white world.
 
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