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(CTV News)   If you're a roofing contractor and you notice the roof you're supposed to replace looks new, check with the homeowner. If the homeowner isn't home, ignore your boss' order to tear it off anyway   (calgary.ctvnews.ca) divider line 59
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2013-05-27 09:25:35 PM
One of my favorite roofers video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JsyszWzVlg
 
2013-05-27 10:30:51 PM
But you get to charge double for replacing a new roof!
 
2013-05-27 10:33:34 PM
Suggestion for the errant roofer...

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-05-27 10:35:00 PM
The roofing company said it was an honest mistake but wouldn't give Cox the name of the business, fearing their reputation would suffer.

Internet Tough Guy:
Yeah, they wouldn't be making it off the property alive if they tried to leave before the cops got there (would try to disable the vehicle first, of course).
 
2013-05-27 10:35:52 PM
The company that made the mistake came back later and said they would make it right but the original roofing company has to make the repairs or Cox will forfeit her warrantee.

The company that did the original work will not be charging Cox for the work and will be looking to the company that made the mistake to cover those costs.


Good for her. At least someone is being honest in this story.
 
2013-05-27 10:38:38 PM
Isn't this why you call your State Farm agent? This is the kind of stuff they live for.
 
2013-05-27 10:38:53 PM
Ha! Contractor tried to flee without leaving their info. Seen that happened before with plumbers who hit underground utilities. As if the homeowner/main contractor won't tattle.
 
2013-05-27 10:40:24 PM
CSB: My mother and someone else down the block both were getting new shingles from the same company. My mother's house was supposed to get gray shingles and the other person was supposed to get brown. They ended up reversing the order. They actually offered to tear off and redo the job so my mother asked if it would be easier to just repaint the house. In the end my mother got the house painted for free with the new roof. They actually did an impeccable job painting. Making my mother happy and the company getting a few referrals.
 
2013-05-27 10:45:36 PM

Mrbogey: Ha! Contractor tried to flee without leaving their info. Seen that happened before with plumbers who hit underground utilities. As if the homeowner/main contractor won't tattle.


Yeah, although in this case if they had gotten away she wouldn't be able to find them as it was a wrong-address case.
 
2013-05-27 10:46:07 PM

Satanic_Hamster: The roofing company said it was an honest mistake but wouldn't give Cox the name of the business, fearing their reputation would suffer.

Internet Tough Guy:
Yeah, they wouldn't be making it off the property alive if they tried to leave before the cops got there (would try to disable the vehicle first, of course).


Only one person has been incredibly stupid enough to suggest a scenario where an elderly woman fight a roofer (and that was created in some bizarre fantasy world).

Personally, I would have gotten plenty of video/pictures and pressed charges for destruction of my private property since they wanted to be assholes and refused to give contact information.
 
2013-05-27 10:46:49 PM
Lets see: Cops were called and showed up, yet no one was arrested/ticketed for vandalism or damaging property.

/Yea its one of many basic charges to at least get the perpetrator to come quick and fix his mistake so if he refuses to fix his shiat he can answer to a Judge on why he and his boss is a dumbass.
//Include trying to hide identity of the crime-boss.

//Hey speedtraps make more money than dealing with the public and their disputes with moran companys.
///Scuze me whilst I go on Craigslist and put up a 'every thing is free for the moving out sale' listing on my dirtbag neighbor, since I couldn't get arrested for it, according to this article if it were to apply everywhere.
 
2013-05-27 10:47:03 PM

big pig peaches: CSB: My mother and someone else down the block both were getting new shingles from the same company. My mother's house was supposed to get gray shingles and the other person was supposed to get brown. They ended up reversing the order. They actually offered to tear off and redo the job so my mother asked if it would be easier to just repaint the house. In the end my mother got the house painted for free with the new roof. They actually did an impeccable job painting. Making my mother happy and the company getting a few referrals.


That's...actually pretty neat. But being an honest business is SO old fashioned. I mean, who wants someone they can depend on?
 
2013-05-27 10:47:43 PM
Well, I thought Canadians were all supposed to be nice people, and here this dick cursed out a senior citizen. How's about we revoke his license and sentence him to 2 years changing bedpans at a nursing home?
 
2013-05-27 10:49:44 PM
knew a roofer at a very busy company. they had a few crews. wrong house stupidity happened to them at least once every 2 years.
 
2013-05-27 10:49:55 PM
He was obviously not a Canadian
 
2013-05-27 10:52:14 PM
Rona at it's best.  Or maybe Canadian Tire.
 
2013-05-27 10:55:34 PM

big pig peaches: CSB: My mother and someone else down the block both were getting new shingles from the same company. My mother's house was supposed to get gray shingles and the other person was supposed to get brown. They ended up reversing the order. They actually offered to tear off and redo the job so my mother asked if it would be easier to just repaint the house. In the end my mother got the house painted for free with the new roof. They actually did an impeccable job painting. Making my mother happy and the company getting a few referrals.


Hearing stories like this where everybody acts like an adult puts a smile on my face. Good for your mom for being willing to pick a new house color to match her roof, and good for the company for owning up to their mistake and doing a great job while fixing the problem.
 
2013-05-27 11:02:18 PM

big pig peaches: CSB: My mother and someone else down the block both were getting new shingles from the same company. My mother's house was supposed to get gray shingles and the other person was supposed to get brown. They ended up reversing the order. They actually offered to tear off and redo the job so my mother asked if it would be easier to just repaint the house. In the end my mother got the house painted for free with the new roof. They actually did an impeccable job painting. Making my mother happy and the company getting a few referrals.


Lemonade from lemons.  She got a multi-thousand dollar paint job out of the deal.  And I'll bet she told her friends and got the roofing company more work.  Tho I have to ask what color the house was that brown clashed so horribly.
 
2013-05-27 11:18:23 PM
Welcome to Calgary, the land of unregulated home renovation.
 
2013-05-27 11:20:52 PM
I worked for a roofing company last summer.  I worked two hours a day during the week and eight hours on Saturday.  For each roof inspection I got the home owner to agree to that lead to a roof replacement, I got 5% of the company's profit.  The average profit was $3,000, so I made an average of $150/roof.  I was averaging one roof replacement a day.  $750/week for 16 hours of work a week wasn't bad.

My friend worked for a roofing company that started this month.  It wasn't so much a roofing company than a company that cold called for roofing leads and then sold those leads to a roofing company.  Each lead was sold the roofing company for $80 and he made $20 per lead.  After three weeks he was told via text message that pay day would be delayed (that would have been Friday).  Last night he got a text message from his former boss informing them that the owner is shutting down the call center and will attempt to sell the office equipment and supplies in order to make payroll.  The owner just opened up a new office to sell AT&T U-Verse.  He wants to know how there was no money for payroll, but money to open up another office and staff it.  I asked him just how incompetent his bosses were to not be able to sell roofing leads to local roofers.
 
2013-05-27 11:23:40 PM

sheep snorter: Lets see: Cops were called and showed up, yet no one was arrested/ticketed for vandalism or damaging property.


There was no intent to damage property. The intent was to replace the roof. They just had the wrong address.
 
2013-05-27 11:28:38 PM
images.45cat.com
 
2013-05-27 11:33:33 PM

Harry_Seldon: Isn't this why you call your State Farm agent? This is the kind of stuff they live for.


This would actually be an interesting one, coverage-wise. Most policies exclude coverage for faulty, inadequate, defective workmanship/installation/renovation, etc, whether or not the homeowner has knowledge of or gave permission for the work. Most likely would be covered as vandalism, although the insured would have to file a police report, which in this case, doesn't sound like it would be a problem.

Happens all the time that a roofer "finds" damage that ends up being manufactured (i.e., the jackass did it himself). It's excluded, unless they call the police and say they've been vandalized, which surprisingly doesn't happen all that often because they only picture teenagers with spray paint. So the roofers keep doing it.
 
2013-05-27 11:39:31 PM
The company that made the mistake came back later and said they would make it right but the original roofing company has to make the repairs or Cox will forfeit her warrantee.

Forfeit her what? Is that how you guys spell "warranty" up there?
 
2013-05-27 11:39:39 PM

Strongbeerrules: Rona at it's best.  Or maybe Canadian Tire.


Rona sells extra apostrophes?
 
2013-05-27 11:49:24 PM
Start of article: Oh, this poor woman, whatever will she do?

End of article: Everything's taken care of.

Tugging the heartstrings only works if there's an uncertain future involved.
 
2013-05-27 11:53:16 PM

Harry_Seldon: Isn't this why you call your State Farm agent? This is the kind of stuff they live for.


Bullshiate.

State Farm can go fark themselves.

I had to fork out about $30K out of pocket for water damage repair due to a slow roof leak that cause damage over time which went undetected until significant damage was done.

I'm still fighting them over it.
 
2013-05-27 11:58:22 PM

Kiwimann: The company that made the mistake came back later and said they would make it right but the original roofing company has to make the repairs or Cox will forfeit her warrantee.

Forfeit her what? Is that how you guys spell "warranty" up there?


She will forfeit her status as the holder of the warranty.  JFGI.
 
2013-05-28 12:02:03 AM
I was working subcon on a remodel of a vacation home and the roofers showed up three weeks ahead of schedule to remove/replace the comp roof. They put their card and paperwork into the permit bundle and went to work. It seemed to take an uncommonly long time, lots of hammering and lots of ply going onto the roof. We got our demo done and had to wait a week for fungus treatment to get done and when we got back, we saw that the roofers had put on mission tile! They had come to the wrong house and the GC never corrected them or even talked to them. The owner liked it so we had to pull off all the hardy siding and lathe it for stucco. Home owner got the roof for "free"- it wasn't even the roofing company that was originally hired by the GC (and the workers lacked English language skills so nobody on-site had talked to them). The stucco job worked out to be about the same price as the tile and the GC made up the difference. Since it was on a busy residential corner in a vacation town hundreds of people drove or walked by every day. By the time we got the hardscaping in the roofing company that installed the tile had three new jobs lined up in the same area and the GC had scored several new projects- because he picked up the roof cost difference himself. Everybody came out a winner- especially the homeowner. That house is part of the CoC package of "rental gems".
 
2013-05-28 12:06:22 AM

lohphat: Bullshiate.

State Farm can go fark themselves.


Like a good neighbor?
 
2013-05-28 12:06:36 AM

sheep snorter: Lets see: Cops were called and showed up, yet no one was arrested/ticketed for vandalism or damaging property.


Because they believed they were supposed to be doing it.  This is a civil matter, not criminal.
 
2013-05-28 12:08:51 AM

Harry_Seldon: Isn't this why you call your State Farm agent? This is the kind of stuff they live for.


Maybe because this is Canada?
 
2013-05-28 12:30:07 AM

ghostwind: Harry_Seldon: Isn't this why you call your State Farm agent? This is the kind of stuff they live for.

Maybe because this is Canada?


Um, State Farm sells insurance in Canada.  Were you under the impression that companies can't do business outside of their country of origin? Or did you assume they don't operate in Canada because they have the word "state" in their name?  Either way, you're going to be amazed when you find out I have an American Express card.
 
2013-05-28 12:36:02 AM

TheSpaceAdmiral: ghostwind: Harry_Seldon: Isn't this why you call your State Farm agent? This is the kind of stuff they live for.

Maybe because this is Canada?

Um, State Farm sells insurance in Canada.  Were you under the impression that companies can't do business outside of their country of origin? Or did you assume they don't operate in Canada because they have the word "state" in their name?  Either way, you're going to be amazed when you find out I have an American Express card.


Well, there's AFLAC, American Family Life Assurance Company who's biggest nation of business is Japan.
 
2013-05-28 12:39:41 AM

TheSpaceAdmiral: ghostwind: Harry_Seldon: Isn't this why you call your State Farm agent? This is the kind of stuff they live for.

Maybe because this is Canada?

Um, State Farm sells insurance in Canada.  Were you under the impression that companies can't do business outside of their country of origin? Or did you assume they don't operate in Canada because they have the word "state" in their name?  Either way, you're going to be amazed when you find out I have an American Express card.


I wouldn't be amazed if you had a Douche Express card.

/that showed him
 
2013-05-28 12:42:40 AM

lohphat: Harry_Seldon: Isn't this why you call your State Farm agent? This is the kind of stuff they live for.

Bullshiate.

State Farm can go fark themselves.

I had to fork out about $30K out of pocket for water damage repair due to a slow roof leak that cause damage over time which went undetected until significant damage was done.

I'm still fighting them over it.


I had the same State Farm agent for over twenty years before I moved. He would have helped me even it State Farm did not cover it. That's why you pay a little more for your local agent.
 
2013-05-28 12:49:14 AM

big pig peaches: CSB: My mother and someone else down the block both were getting new shingles from the same company. My mother's house was supposed to get gray shingles and the other person was supposed to get brown. They ended up reversing the order. They actually offered to tear off and redo the job so my mother asked if it would be easier to just repaint the house. In the end my mother got the house painted for free with the new roof. They actually did an impeccable job painting. Making my mother happy and the company getting a few referrals.


Coming to a settlement is the best solution for both sides when a minor error(in the sense that there was nothing fundamentally wrong with the roof) otherwise requires a major fix to make whole again.  Reminds me of the time one of the roommates accidentally dinged an old Honda in the parking lot.  You had to stare like an inch away from the metal to notice the paint scuff and dent, but you're stuck paying $1000 for a new door and paint job cuz it ruined the whole door and you gotta make the guy whole again.  Sure as heck wasn't worth $1000 to the driver of the car so I told my roommate to offer him this:  Have the guy show you the repair quote and offer to write a check made out directly to the body shop for the cost, or offer $200 in cash to the guy.  Saved him $800 bucks.
 
2013-05-28 01:01:29 AM
And the poor slob that did what his boss told him to, gets shiat-canned.
 
2013-05-28 01:28:35 AM

Kiwimann: The company that made the mistake came back later and said they would make it right but the original roofing company has to make the repairs or Cox will forfeit her warrantee.

Forfeit her what? Is that how you guys spell "warranty" up there?


Correctlee
 
2013-05-28 01:50:37 AM

Mr. Holmes: Well, I thought Canadians were all supposed to be nice people, and here this dick cursed out a senior citizen. How's about we revoke his license and sentence him to 2 years changing bedpans at a nursing home?


Alberta doesn't count
 
2013-05-28 02:30:53 AM
proper result is "roofing company replaces entire roof and pro-rates materials to % of used lifespan of previous roof"
 
2013-05-28 04:56:27 AM

TheSpaceAdmiral: ghostwind: Harry_Seldon: Isn't this why you call your State Farm agent? This is the kind of stuff they live for.

Maybe because this is Canada?

Um, State Farm sells insurance in Canada.  Were you under the impression that companies can't do business outside of their country of origin? Or did you assume they don't operate in Canada because they have the word "state" in their name?  Either way, you're going to be amazed when you find out I have an American Express card.


Oh, sure, great idea until some Middle Eastern terrorist kidnaps you, and you try to prove you're Canadian...he'll pull that out of your wallet and say "I KNEW you were Great Satan!"

/bet you didn't think of that
 
2013-05-28 06:01:35 AM

CruiserTwelve: sheep snorter: Lets see: Cops were called and showed up, yet no one was arrested/ticketed for vandalism or damaging property.

There was no intent to damage property. The intent was to replace the roof. They just had the wrong address.


They destroyed her new roof and refused to give her their name, phone number, or any business information. How do you know they were legitimate? How do you know they had a business license? Are you the worse cop in the entire farking universe or some sort of anti-cop troll saying intentionally stupid things to poison public opinion against the police? Let me do all the poor elderly who have the misfortune of calling you when their being preyed upon a big favor and suggest you look up the criminal group known as "Irish Travelers". This is the EXACT farking type of scam they used to bilk thousands of elderly out of their savings until the FBI indicted them. I'm not even in law enforcement, yet I know about these predators and this common scam. How the fark can you be fark's official cop representative and be so farking uninformed? Ignoring your ignorance of Irish traveler, what the fark kind of idiot thinks there's nothing fishy about someone that tears up an old lady's roof and then refuses to give her any kind of contact information?
 
2013-05-28 06:17:48 AM
left wondering who will pay for repairs

Um, how'bout the morans that did it?
 
2013-05-28 06:39:28 AM
Great Janitor:
Well, there's AFLAC, American Family Life Assurance Company who's biggest nation of business is Japan.

AFRAC?
 
GBB
2013-05-28 06:51:42 AM

Bender The Offender: CruiserTwelve: sheep snorter: Lets see: Cops were called and showed up, yet no one was arrested/ticketed for vandalism or damaging property.

There was no intent to damage property. The intent was to replace the roof. They just had the wrong address.

They destroyed her new roof and refused to give her their name, phone number, or any business information. How do you know they were legitimate? How do you know they had a business license? Are you the worse cop in the entire farking universe or some sort of anti-cop troll saying intentionally stupid things to poison public opinion against the police? Let me do all the poor elderly who have the misfortune of calling you when their being preyed upon a big favor and suggest you look up the criminal group known as "Irish Travelers". This is the EXACT farking type of scam they used to bilk thousands of elderly out of their savings until the FBI indicted them. I'm not even in law enforcement, yet I know about these predators and this common scam. How the fark can you be fark's official cop representative and be so farking uninformed? Ignoring your ignorance of Irish traveler, what the fark kind of idiot thinks there's nothing fishy about someone that tears up an old lady's roof and then refuses to give her any kind of contact information?


"I'm not even in law enforcement"

You don't say?!   So you've never had to deal with stupid people and stupid contractors that make stupid mistakes?  Well, go on and tell the rest of us how wrong we are.

Obviously it's fishy and that's why she called 911.  Cops come out and check everyone.  Irish Travelers generally don't have business licenses and generally don't register their vehicles in their business's name.  They also don't have store fronts.  Irish travelers also don't destroy roofs in order to repair them.  That's too much work.  They instead look for worn roofs or driveways and elderly residents to swindle them into hiring them for cheap.  If they have a signed contract, it looks a lot more legitimate than being up on someone else's roof with a claim that it's the wrong address.  A quick check of the other address would clear that up, wouldn't it?

Anything else that you've seen in a Facebook post you'd like to warn us about?
 
2013-05-28 07:04:36 AM

GBB: Bender The Offender: CruiserTwelve: sheep snorter: Lets see: Cops were called and showed up, yet no one was arrested/ticketed for vandalism or damaging property.

There was no intent to damage property. The intent was to replace the roof. They just had the wrong address.

They destroyed her new roof and refused to give her their name, phone number, or any business information. How do you know they were legitimate? How do you know they had a business license? Are you the worse cop in the entire farking universe or some sort of anti-cop troll saying intentionally stupid things to poison public opinion against the police? Let me do all the poor elderly who have the misfortune of calling you when their being preyed upon a big favor and suggest you look up the criminal group known as "Irish Travelers". This is the EXACT farking type of scam they used to bilk thousands of elderly out of their savings until the FBI indicted them. I'm not even in law enforcement, yet I know about these predators and this common scam. How the fark can you be fark's official cop representative and be so farking uninformed? Ignoring your ignorance of Irish traveler, what the fark kind of idiot thinks there's nothing fishy about someone that tears up an old lady's roof and then refuses to give her any kind of contact information?

"I'm not even in law enforcement"

You don't say?!   So you've never had to deal with stupid people and stupid contractors that make stupid mistakes?  Well, go on and tell the rest of us how wrong we are.

Obviously it's fishy and that's why she called 911.  Cops come out and check everyone.  Irish Travelers generally don't have business licenses and generally don't register their vehicles in their business's name.  They also don't have store fronts.  Irish travelers also don't destroy roofs in order to repair them.  That's too much work.  They instead look for worn roofs or driveways and elderly residents to swindle them into hiring them for cheap.  If they have a signed contract, it looks a lot more legitimate than being up on someone else's roof with a claim that it's the wrong address.  A quick check of the other address would clear that up, wouldn't it?

Anything else that you've seen in a Facebook post you'd like to warn us about?


In all that sucking off of cruiser 12, I missed the part where you 2 used your psychic powers to know this was a legitimate, licensed business since they refused to give her any information that a legitimate business would provide (like a phone number, a business license number, or even a farking name). Now, you're more than welcome to get back to sucking off cruiser 12, or maybe you can tell me what psychic powers allow you to determine the legitimacy of someone destroying property despite them refusing to give contact information. Related question, do those same psychic powers turn one into an unrepentant idiotic asshole?
 
2013-05-28 07:30:52 AM
Ever see addresses in those florida subdivisions? "3287 north 43rd street circle west"

Wtf does that even MEAN?
 
2013-05-28 07:55:33 AM

jtown: big pig peaches: CSB: My mother and someone else down the block both were getting new shingles from the same company. My mother's house was supposed to get gray shingles and the other person was supposed to get brown. They ended up reversing the order. They actually offered to tear off and redo the job so my mother asked if it would be easier to just repaint the house. In the end my mother got the house painted for free with the new roof. They actually did an impeccable job painting. Making my mother happy and the company getting a few referrals.

Lemonade from lemons.  She got a multi-thousand dollar paint job out of the deal.  And I'll bet she told her friends and got the roofing company more work.  Tho I have to ask what color the house was that brown clashed so horribly.


It was slate blue. It really did stick like a sore thumb. I saw it before they repainted. I was like um mom, it doesn't really match. She explained the mistake and I started getting all Internet tough guy before she explained they were coming back to repaint. I actually expected I was going to have to raise hell, but they showed up on schedule.

Which made me happy because I really don't like to get all tough guy without the Internet to back me up.
 
2013-05-28 08:01:58 AM

GBB: Bender The Offender: CruiserTwelve:

There was no intent to damage property. The intent was to replace the roof. They just had the wrong address.

They destroyed her new roof and refused to give her their name, phone number, or any business information. How do you know they were legitimate? How do you know they had a business license? Are you the worse cop in the entire farking universe or some sort of anti-cop troll saying intentionally stupid things to poison public opinion against the police? Let me do all the poor elderly who have the misfortune of calling you when their being preyed upon a big favor and suggest you look up the criminal group known as "Irish Travelers". This is the EXACT farking type of scam they used to bilk thousands of elderly out of their savings until the FBI indicted them. I'm not even in law enforcement, yet I know about these predators and this common scam. How the fark can you be fark's official cop representative and be so farking uninformed? Ignoring your ignorance of Irish traveler, what the fark kind of idiot thinks there's nothing fishy about someone that tears up an old lady's roof and then refuses to give her any kind of contact information?

"I'm not even in law enforcement"

You don't say?!   So you've never had to deal with stupid people and stupid contractors that make stupid mistakes?  Well, go on and tell the rest of us how wrong we are.

Obviously it's fishy and that's why she called 911.  Cops come out and check everyone.  Irish Travelers generally don't have business licenses and generally don't register their vehicles in their business's name.  They also don't have store fronts.  Irish travelers also don't destroy roofs in order to repair them.  That's too much work.  They instead look for worn roofs or driveways and elderly residents to swindle them into hiring them for cheap.  If they have a si ...


Since RTFA is beyond the scope of our criminal apologist scum, let me quote you the specifics that you and Cruiser12 claim are totally legit.

"I was upset that I've got a man tearing my brand new roof apart," said Cox.
Cox confronted the worker and he pulled out his phone to call his boss.
"He was quite confused and he said I phoned my boss and asked that there was nobody home should I start? And I said did you not think that this is a brand new roof? Did you not think that maybe you had the wrong address? And he said well I phoned my boss and he told me to rip it off anyway" said Cox.

Cox talked to the boss on the worker's phone and says he started to curse at her and hung up on her.
"He told the boy not to give me any information, absolutely no information so I phoned 911," said Cox.
She says the boss finally showed up and told her that the work order had the wrong address on it.

The roofing company said it was an honest mistake but wouldn't give Cox the name of the business, fearing their reputation would suffer.

Yes, given the general intellect shown by people like you, I can understand why you would believe the behavior quoted above was completely above board and not suspicious, AT ALL. Good work Sherlock, another case put to rest. Please, continue with your expert opinion as to why that crazy old lady attacked these poor legitimate business men who simply made a good faith error and acted with utmost professionalism, I'm sure the criminals of whatever hellhole you guys work sleep much better knowing they have to match wits with legal minds like yours.
 
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