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2013-05-27 09:12:55 PM  
I'm sure the TSA agents find more trannies than feel clits in their normal course of work.
 
2013-05-27 09:13:15 PM  

ongbok: She defiantly got at least one in the pink. If she hadn't flinched, the screener would have slipped one in the stink.

But seriously, there has got to be a better way of doing this. Why do you have to grab peoples private areas? You can do a pat down without doing that.


because then they would just put shiat there so why do it at all then?

In other news put your drugs high and in the center of your car cause the dog.......

If your going to take away my constitutional right to fly without my dong being grabbed then for god sake someone grab my dong.

/don't really care about the freedom part anymore just lonely
 
2013-05-27 09:13:30 PM  
Actually, that's not a proper patdown. When touching private areas, including breasts, you're supposed to use the BACK of the hand, never the palm. You're not checking for lumps ffs.
 
2013-05-27 09:13:37 PM  

coco ebert: I've had the pat down a couple of times and the TSA agents were always very polite and very upfront about why they're going to do. I really didn't find it all that invasive. Of course I wasn't a raging asshole towards them as I've seen many passengers act.


I don't particularly have a problem with what TSA has to do, but I do have a problem with some of how they do it, including the "shut up and do what you're told" attitude I've encountered at times (I flew 150,000 miles in 2010, so I had plenty of exposure to TSA). I was once screamed at by two TSA screeners at LAX because they gave me conflicting instructions. They were literally two feet away on either side of me telling me different things and yelling when I didn't comply right away.

I also once got the "you're a threat to America" treatment at Newark, and it's only because I asked to have my things in my field of view while I was in the body scanner. Why is it that every time only one of the two x-ray machines on each side of a body scanner is open, it's always the one that causes you to stand inside the body scanner with your things behind you out of your sight? It's like they're admitting they're going to try to steal from you. But I'm sure if you asked, they'd say something like "they don't want you distracted."

I personally feel that a lot of what TSA does is pointless security theater, but fine. I can't bring a 4oz container but I can bring two 3oz containers? Whatever. Have you never noticed that toothpaste is labeled by weight, not volume? LOL. But at least act decently while you do your job.
 
2013-05-27 09:14:07 PM  
After watching that video again, I'm sure that attractive 20-something woman got her naughty bits touched by the dyke prison guard character.  But to be sure, I think I'll just keep watching it a few more times with the sound off.
 
2013-05-27 09:15:09 PM  
She's really getting into it.
 
2013-05-27 09:15:21 PM  

FloydA: TSA agent allegedly touching her vagina through her clothing

Not unless there is something very seriously wrong with her anatomy.


not really
 
2013-05-27 09:15:35 PM  

Nem Wan: Cewley: i'm thinking that if the tsa screenings are keeping people from doing bad shiat, then that's the price we have to pay. this twinkee can take the farking bus if she has a problem.

It's security theatre, and apparently you like the show.


American security theater is so lame. Disheveled and sloppy TSA agents doing full body pat-downs at the airport. Or militarized police with assault rifles and armored vehicles doing house-to-house searches for suspicious crockery and fireworks powder. BORING!!
The British have it down - people fawn over the security theater there and constantly take pictures of it. Guys in black furry hats and red wool coats standing at attention in 90 degree weather. Perfectly polished swords. Lots of parades. More CCTV cameras than people. And then, if you don't renew your TV license, some guy in an overcoat visits your house, flashes a fancy ID badge, raises and eyebrow and says, "Would you mind talking to me about why you're not watching TV?"
 
2013-05-27 09:16:09 PM  
I get pat down every time I fly. I am in a wheelchair - that tends to set off the scanners;) Not once have i been treated with anything but respect, courtesy, and kindness from the TSA. And their Aussie equivalents.

Mind you, I am polite to start with - expect kindness, amazing how people respond. 'Poor wickle cwipple' may account for it, but I prefer to believe most people are fundamentally ok. I know, this is Fark, you would expect after all this time* I would know better;)

* thought I had better check, almost wrote nearly a decade, and some Snarker will always check - turns out over 11 years? damn that's a lot of  wasted invigoratingly spent time
 
2013-05-27 09:16:09 PM  
"Having the camera on empowered me to interrupt the pat down when I was being violated and tell them what was and wasn't acceptable," Jessica explained to Infowars.com.

facepalm.jpg
 
2013-05-27 09:16:25 PM  

vpb: Infowars.  So I'm going with "no".


Infowars: stopped reading there.
 
2013-05-27 09:16:27 PM  

ImpendingCynic: I don't particularly have a problem with what TSA has to do


Then you are scared shiatless chicken twatted ass wipe.
 
2013-05-27 09:17:01 PM  
she's not a Muslim male aged 15-50.  Waive her through!
 
2013-05-27 09:17:10 PM  
Why does this have to have an infowars connection?!

That said - I always go with the pay down, I know they don't want to pat me down and are doing a thankless and possibly unnecessary job, I don't have anything against the people I've encountered at the TSA - they all seem like folks trying to get by, but I'll be dammed if I go through a nude-photo machine that may or may not pose a cancer risk.
 
2013-05-27 09:17:21 PM  
s2.postimg.org
 
2013-05-27 09:17:58 PM  

coco ebert: I've had the pat down a couple of times and the TSA agents were always very polite and very upfront about why they're going to do. I really didn't find it all that invasive. Of course I wasn't a raging asshole towards them as I've seen many passengers act.


This, completely.

I just had a pat-down in the San Francisco airport and she spent way more time explaining what was going to be touched than she did actually touching it.

These twats declined to go through the scanner, opted instead for a pat down, and recorded each other.  There is nothing that will convince me that this isn't intentional outrage.
 
2013-05-27 09:18:12 PM  

Adman12: *Vulva


Came for this,

\no, wait. That isn't what I mean.
\\Damn you, you are taking this out of context
\\\I mean I came because I was expecting vulva
///That is to say, I know my anatomy
//well, not MY anatomy I have no vulva
/penis
 
2013-05-27 09:19:14 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: I_Am_Weasel: If you look hard enough for something wrong, you'll probably find it.

You know full well what a full body pat down entails, you opted for it anyway and then objected to it, apparently exactly what you were looking for.

Therefore, no one cares except those who were hoping to be outraged and infowars adherents.

the fact that the choice is "let us grope you or we'll take naked pictures of you" is proof enough that the system has failed.


THIS. I mean, it's Infowars, but still...THIS.
 
2013-05-27 09:19:23 PM  
THANK GOD I'm not the first person to comment that there's a difference between a vulva and a vagina.

/Words have meanings, dammit.
//Stopped sounding uneducated.
 
2013-05-27 09:19:27 PM  

Cewley: i'm thinking that if the tsa screenings are keeping people from doing bad shiat, then that's the price we have to pay. this twinkee can take the farking bus if she has a problem.


I'm thinking that you are an idiot
 
2013-05-27 09:20:05 PM  

Dreamless: THANK GOD I'm not the first person to comment that there's a difference between a vulva and a vagina.

/Words have meanings, dammit.
//Stopped sounding uneducated.


...and, the Fates pretty much decreed that I make a typo.
 
2013-05-27 09:20:19 PM  
When terrorists start packing colicy babies' recta with c4, it's all over.
 
2013-05-27 09:20:31 PM  

libranoelrose: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: ongbok: She defiantly got at least one in the pink. If she hadn't flinched, the screener would have slipped one in the stink.

But seriously, there has got to be a better way of doing this. Why do you have to grab peoples private areas? You can do a pat down without doing that.

These TSA clowns make $6/hr. For a shiat wage like that, if you additionally get a chance for some no-consequences rapefun you're gonna take it.

So it's OK then?


It's to be expected.
 
2013-05-27 09:20:50 PM  
The burger thread gets 31 comments on f****** memorial day and the opposing whatever troll gets all this? Ugh. Alas, poor fark! I knew him, farkers; a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy.
 
2013-05-27 09:20:54 PM  
Who's the blond in the first half...is she single?  I'd touch her vagina...
 
2013-05-27 09:21:13 PM  

Dreamless: THANK GOD I'm not the first person to comment that there's a difference between a vulva and a vagina.

/Words have meanings, dammit.
//Stopped sounding uneducated.


It's easier just to say c*nt.
 
2013-05-27 09:23:23 PM  
In the 70s a woman airline hijacker carried a grenade in the crotch of her pants. She got on the plane.

See, in Europe, they actually know how to deal with terrorism, and they will give you the Dundee Shiela check to see if you hid a no-no object in your no-no area if you get a pat down. In America, most of the Hollywood pat-downs miss prime snuke areas.
 
2013-05-27 09:24:11 PM  
Don't forget to remember those who went to war to fight fascism and gave their all so that we could live as free people in a just society.  Oh, and eat steaks and binge drink.  For freedom.
 
2013-05-27 09:24:33 PM  

vygramul: Dreamless: THANK GOD I'm not the first person to comment that there's a difference between a vulva and a vagina.

/Words have meanings, dammit.
//Stopped sounding uneducated.

It's easier just to say c*nt.


Oh, it has its uses, but it suffers from a certain degree of ambiguity.
 
2013-05-27 09:25:01 PM  
I've had the TSA pat-down a few times (medical hardware). They tell you exactly what they're going to do, they barely touch you with the edge of their hands, and they don't come remotely close to squeezing or penetrating anything. They have always been respectful. Then again, I've always been nice to them first--it's amazing how saying hello and good morning like they're just another human being with a lousy job can smooth things right along.

/That said, I think it's a complete waste of time and money and a terrible invasion of privacy. Let's go back to the metal detectors. I'm happy to take my chances.
 
2013-05-27 09:26:06 PM  

vygramul: Dreamless: THANK GOD I'm not the first person to comment that there's a difference between a vulva and a vagina.

/Words have meanings, dammit.
//Stopped sounding uneducated.

It's easier just to say c*nt.


you see those pants? Quite possible to brush up on the ole v-hole with those
 
2013-05-27 09:26:27 PM  

libranoelrose: ImpendingCynic: I don't particularly have a problem with what TSA has to do

Then you are scared shiatless chicken twatted ass wipe.


Not one bit. But I also don't see it as an invasive as this woman did. When a TSA agent is fondling my junk, I'm not offended. I'm mentally mocking him and thanking my parents for making me go to college so I don't have to fondle other guys' junk. Should the government be fondling my junk? No. But acting like an ass to the junk-fondler isn't going to change anything. I do expect them to act like decent human beings, however.

I don't believe that anything TSA does at the airport is worth anything, except the metal detectors to keep out weapons, and x-raying baggage. Asking me to pronounce my name? Pointless. Checking IDs at the gate, but announcing it before boarding? Pointless. Testing liquids bought post-security? Pointless.
 
2013-05-27 09:26:29 PM  

crazytrain: The burger thread gets 31 comments on f****** memorial day and the opposing whatever troll gets all this? Ugh. Alas, poor fark! I knew him, farkers; a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy.


ummm you claim to not be new but either you really are or you don't see the word vagina in the headline

welcomebacktofark.jpg
 
2013-05-27 09:28:20 PM  

eventhelosers: ongbok: She defiantly got at least one in the pink. If she hadn't flinched, the screener would have slipped one in the stink.

But seriously, there has got to be a better way of doing this. Why do you have to grab peoples private areas? You can do a pat down without doing that.

because then they would just put shiat there so why do it at all then?

In other news put your drugs high and in the center of your car cause the dog.......

If your going to take away my constitutional right to fly without my dong being grabbed then for god sake someone grab my dong.

/don't really care about the freedom part anymore just lonely


I have been searched several times in my life. Some by cops and some by the sheriffs at court buildings. The only time I ever had my shiat grabbed in a search was 3 times and that was by cops trying to intimidate me. Never at court buildings have I ever had a sheriff come near my private parts in a pat down. Whoever wrote the pat down procedures for TSA didn't know what the fark they were doing.
 
2013-05-27 09:28:55 PM  

TDBoedy: FloydA: Bathia_Mapes:
Exactly.

kiwimoogle84:
Yup. Labia, crotch, vulva, public region, yes. But if the TSA agent actually touched vag, that requires penetration.


I sometimes wonder if I was the only male who paid attention during that portion of sex ed class, while the rest of the boys just sat there, slack-jawed, staring at the pictures with a vague buzzing ringing in their ears.

I remember a girl who didn't even know where her clitoris was.


Wow, I did not know you could lose them O_o
 
2013-05-27 09:29:49 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Yup. Labia, crotch, vulva, public region, yes. But if the TSA agent actually touched vag, that requires penetration.


I shrugged at the headline. Then again I just figured that everyone getting personally frisked by the TSA was getting fingered like a Game of Thrones character.
 
2013-05-27 09:30:49 PM  
And this is why, next time I fly, I'm going through security in a farking speedo.
 
2013-05-27 09:32:52 PM  

PsiChick: The_Original_Roxtar: I_Am_Weasel: If you look hard enough for something wrong, you'll probably find it.

You know full well what a full body pat down entails, you opted for it anyway and then objected to it, apparently exactly what you were looking for.

Therefore, no one cares except those who were hoping to be outraged and infowars adherents.

the fact that the choice is "let us grope you or we'll take naked pictures of you" is proof enough that the system has failed.

THIS. I mean, it's Infowars, but still...THIS.


So true, I mean I haven't flown since the 90's but if I had to take a flight I would be dreading it from all the crazy I here about.
 
2013-05-27 09:33:49 PM  

Cewley: i'm thinking that if the tsa screenings are keeping people from doing bad shiat, then that's the price we have to pay. this twinkee can take the farking bus if she has a problem.


Until they start screening buses...

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/20/nation/la-na-terror-checkpoi nt s-20111220

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/tsa-swarms-8000-bus-stations -p ublic-transit-systems-yearly

http://www.tsa.gov/stakeholders/intercity-bus-security-grant-program

Other than that, fark you for even supporting this ridiculous type of security theater.
 
2013-05-27 09:34:37 PM  
TDBoedy: FloydA: Bathia_Mapes:
Exactly.

kiwimoogle84:
Yup. Labia, crotch, vulva, public region, yes. But if the TSA agent actually touched vag, that requires penetration.


I sometimes wonder if I was the only male who paid attention during that portion of sex ed class, while the rest of the boys just sat there, slack-jawed, staring at the pictures with a vague buzzing ringing in their ears.

I remember a girl who didn't even know where her clitoris was.

Wow, I did not know you could lose them O_o


It's okay. She found it down on Second Avenue towards St. Mark's Place. It was lying on a blanket
next to a broken toaster oven.
 
2013-05-27 09:34:43 PM  
TSA sucks.

But, you lost me at Infowars.

Alex Jones sucks more.
 
2013-05-27 09:34:45 PM  

eventhelosers: ummm you claim to not be new but either you really are or you don't see the word vagina in the headline


And you're a white guy wearing a do-rag. Check and mate.
 
2013-05-27 09:34:56 PM  
 
2013-05-27 09:35:01 PM  

ongbok: eventhelosers: ongbok: She defiantly got at least one in the pink. If she hadn't flinched, the screener would have slipped one in the stink.

But seriously, there has got to be a better way of doing this. Why do you have to grab peoples private areas? You can do a pat down without doing that.

because then they would just put shiat there so why do it at all then?

In other news put your drugs high and in the center of your car cause the dog.......

If your going to take away my constitutional right to fly without my dong being grabbed then for god sake someone grab my dong.

/don't really care about the freedom part anymore just lonely

I have been searched several times in my life. Some by cops and some by the sheriffs at court buildings. The only time I ever had my shiat grabbed in a search was 3 times and that was by cops trying to intimidate me. Never at court buildings have I ever had a sheriff come near my private parts in a pat down. Whoever wrote the pat down procedures for TSA didn't know what the fark they were doing.


I hear ya, even if they were written correctly they probably wouldn't be carried out correctly 100% of the time.  I don't know I watched the Vice "This is winning" doc today.  I feel hopeless, don't care really.  People are gonna die, there is no correct answer IMHO.  Human Nature and all.
 
2013-05-27 09:36:03 PM  
Putting locks on the cockpit doors solved the problem of 9/11.  Everything else is just to make people feel better.
 
2013-05-27 09:36:10 PM  
Activists like this are attempting to point out the bigger picture here. It's not the security measures they are protesting, it's the reasons cited to require them and the rights which are suppressed by them. Unfortunately most people don't care about their rights so they keep calm and carry on, then crack jokes at those who do in the attempt to assimilate them back into the herd.
 
2013-05-27 09:37:15 PM  

crazytrain: eventhelosers: ummm you claim to not be new but either you really are or you don't see the word vagina in the headline

And you're a white guy wearing a do-rag. Check and mate.


moran
 
2013-05-27 09:38:34 PM  

Nem Wan: Cewley: i'm thinking that if the tsa screenings are keeping people from doing bad shiat, then that's the price we have to pay. this twinkee can take the farking bus if she has a problem.

It's security theatre, and apparently you like the show.


It is security theatre. Which is why I'd rephrase the original statement as:
I'm thinking that if the TSA screenings are keeping people from thinking other people are going to do bad shiat, and it keeps them flying, which keeps ticket prices low, then I'm OK with that.
 
2013-05-27 09:39:29 PM  
I have had the pat down several times and it is no big deal. Though I do request that they change their gloves in front of me. I am more worried about catching the flu or some bug than of having my crotch touched.

I can't see the point of throwing a temper tantrum at the TSA agents. They are just trying to put food on their tables.

If you oppose the TSA's security measures then complain to your congress critters.
 
2013-05-27 09:40:09 PM  
Anyone who still uses air travel while the TSA Gestapo has the right to touch your body, should just shut the hell up and take it.

/ hasn't and will not fly until this security theater is terminated.
 
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