skinink: Personally I think the Korean War Memorial is more impressive than the Vietnam War Memorial. Those statues of soldiers looking like they are walking through a war zone looks realistic.
Bung_Howdy: At least some of those vets had the chance to enjoy some really good drugs while in-country
mrlewish: Little girl. Those that fought in the Vietnam war didn't exactly keep us free. It's not about keeping us free it's about futility. You will learn when you are older.
jake_lex: As time goes on, the people who fought against the Vietnam Memorial look stupider and stupider.
"Although praised by art and architecture critics, the design created a firestorm of bitter opposition. Veterans' groups were incensed calling it a "black gash of shame." H. Ross Perot, the Texas millionaire and the future Virginia Senator Jim Webb, then a highly regarded Assistant Secretary of Defense in the Reagan Administration, both early public supporters of the project, now denounced it and tried to prevent the construction as envisioned by Lin. Perot openly voiced contempt for Lin because she was Asian and many veterans did not want anything to do with, "that Gook." Congress held hearings where Lin had to defend herself under very hostile questioning. Secretary of the Interior James Watt tried to derail the project by withholding the necessary construction permits."Link
ruta: Weird. An hour ago I finished reading an analysis of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial by Charles Griswold written in 1983 soon after the memorial was dedicated. This is the second last paragraph:The patriotism expressed during the Memorial's dedication was informed by the healthy willingness to question the decisions of the politicians of the day about where and when Americans should die for their country. The monument's ability to engender declarations of patriotism is quite in keeping with such an interrogative character. If the Memorial momentarily separates war and politics, it is in order to give us a more secure foundation for understanding both. The sentiments of those who attended and addressed the Memorial's dedication were clear: America is worth dying for, but she must not fight a war when there is no popular consensus for doing so, and she must not fight without the intention to win decisively. Correspondingly, she must not fight under conditions where it is impossible to win.Full, long article is on JSTOR [clicky] but registration is required.I've never been to Washington DC so I haven't seen the memorial. After reading the JSTOR article I want to. Apparently, the bronze statue of three soldiers was added after the fact because the original wasn't considered sufficiently monument-y by some folks. It's also important that it honors the veterans and not the war. So get it right, little girl.
paleryder69: I guess one thing that strikes me is that most people who have never served do not understand what it is like even in peacetime to serve. To those that have, every day is memorial day. It is there in the back of our mind every day of our lives. When we sit in the VA lobby listening to the stories we hear the things that happened to our parents and grandparents, we hear of the sacrifices, we hear of the unsung hero's, we hear the shots and explosions, we hear the screams and finally we hear the silence and weep for those who went before us. Veterans never forget their comradesThis day is for you, I salute those with the simple white markers in never ending rows.
fustanella: Time to move the wall to Sudden Valley./thiscan'tbeobscure
lucksi: It was raining when we got there and the tour guide said that, as bad as it might seem, it was sort of a good thing. It would hit home harder and give us an idea of what the soldiers' conditions were likeyes, being in the rain, probably with an umbrella, for a little while is exactly what the soldiers experienced.They were people who had once lived and had fought for me to be able to wake up every morning as a free American teenage girl.FARK YOU. You ignorant little twunt. You might want to open a history book and a real one at that. Not whatever you get to read at Jesus college.
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the_chief: They died so we could have corn syrup.
Ivandrago: I think I'd prefer a more traditional memorial for Iraq and Afghanistan. Similar to the Korean War Memorial. Either way, I plan on being as active as I can be in the creation of that memorial. My buddies and I made a vow that we would ride together on our motorcycles to the dedication of the memorial. My wife won't let me have a motorcycle yet, and one of the guys who is supposed to ride with us is currently incarcerated, so luckily I haven't heard anyone talk about it so I don't even think it's in its planning stages yet./SPC Brock Bucklin, May 31, 2006/SPC Damien Montoya, July 9, 2006/SSG Kenneth Jenkins, August 12, 2006
TheShavingofOccam123: fustanella: Time to move the wall to Sudden Valley./thiscan'tbeobscureIt might be time for a new start.
mjones73: Nice, I kinda prefer the original.
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