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(Indiegogo)   That kickstarter to raise $200,000 and buy a video of Toronto Mayor Rob Ford smoking crack is about $15,000 short in its final day. If no tape, money all goes to charity. But really...let's see the tape   (indiegogo.com) divider line 92
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2013-05-27 10:15:44 AM
indiegogo=/=kickstarter

In any event I believe if you come up short in either, you don't get dick.
 
2013-05-27 10:20:34 AM
Blob Ford already bought it and buried it in the closet with those 3000 other skeletons.

This tin-foil hat really makes my head sweat.
 
2013-05-27 10:51:15 AM

oldfarthenry: Blob Ford already bought it and buried it in the closet with those 3000 other skeletons.

This tin-foil hat really makes my head sweat.


You're not far off, only the skeleton might be more literal - there may be at least one murder connected to the video.
 
2013-05-27 10:51:27 AM

cretinbob: indiegogo=/=kickstarter

In any event I believe if you come up short in either, you don't get dick.


Indiegogo pays out even if you're short.
 
2013-05-27 10:52:35 AM
Shouldn't the equivalent of the DA up there grab it as evidence?
 
2013-05-27 10:56:16 AM

enry: Shouldn't the equivalent of the DA up there grab it as evidence?


a) Evidence of what?

b) How? Grab it from where?
 
2013-05-27 10:56:16 AM
UPDATE-- MAY 27, 2013, 9:46 AM EASTERN EDT: We have had no further contact with the people we believe to have custody of this video since the last update.

IMPORTANT UPDATE: PLEASE GO HERE AND READ BEFORE YOU CONSIDER DONATING. Our confidence that we can consummate this transaction has diminished.


Sad troll face ->  i.ytimg.com
 
2013-05-27 10:57:06 AM

enry: Shouldn't the equivalent of the DA up there grab it as evidence?


In Canada, it's "the Dee. eh?"
 
2013-05-27 10:57:28 AM

unlikely: cretinbob: indiegogo=/=kickstarter

In any event I believe if you come up short in either, you don't get dick.

Indiegogo pays out even if you're short.


Then what does "Fixed Funding campaign...This campaign will only receive funds if at least $200,000 is raised by Mon 27 May 11:59PM PT." mean? Serious question; I'm unfamiliar with Indiegogo.
 
2013-05-27 11:00:04 AM

Tax Boy: enry: Shouldn't the equivalent of the DA up there grab it as evidence?

In Canada, it's "the Dee. eh?"


Walked into that one.

/Was going to make a crack about it being 'HMDA' or something, but I've never had a bad experience in Canada
//including the time my buddy and I were at a bar, and he asks the guy next to us "I don't mean this as an insult, but you're Canadian, right?" and no fight ensued.
 
2013-05-27 11:01:08 AM

Mr. Richard Smoker: enry: Shouldn't the equivalent of the DA up there grab it as evidence?

a) Evidence of what?

b) How? Grab it from where?


A DA in the US would have gone and....ahhhhh...I think I see the difference...
 
2013-05-27 11:01:17 AM
I'm sure $200000 paid to extortionist thugs will be money well spent.
 
2013-05-27 11:02:43 AM

oldfarthenry: Blob Ford already bought it and buried it in the closet with those 3000 other skeletons.

This tin-foil hat really makes my head sweat.


I think that is why he held off making a statement about it. He got a copy of it.

The Ford bros current 'attack the media' position is going to bite them in the ass soon. They are going to dig up everything on these two. See the Globe and Mail article for proof.
 
2013-05-27 11:02:48 AM
I'm as interested in schadenfreude about dick politicians as much as the next asshole, but this seems to fall into the category of lighting money on fire. Who really gives a crap about watching the mayor of Toronto smoke crack? I bet Toronton, Torontoanian, Toronters don't even care that much.
 
2013-05-27 11:03:10 AM
Last I heard the people selling this recording have been out of contact for quite a while.
 
2013-05-27 11:04:43 AM

mbillips: I bet Toronton, Torontoanian, Toronters don't even care that much.


Close ... Torontonians.
 
2013-05-27 11:05:08 AM
I still don't understand why people would donate money to a successful media company for a video of a Mayor doing drugs. I guess this will be standard procedure now, to crowdfund things rich companies don't want to pay for themselves. PT Barnum would have been happy to witness this whole thing.
 
2013-05-27 11:05:23 AM

Farking Canuck: mbillips: I bet Toronton, Torontoanian, Toronters don't even care that much.

Close ... Torontonians.


You sure it's not Torontoons?
 
2013-05-27 11:08:15 AM

Farking Canuck: mbillips: I bet Toronton, Torontoanian, Toronters don't even care that much.

Close ... Torontonians.


Closer ... Trawntonians
 
2013-05-27 11:08:52 AM

Pope Larry II: oldfarthenry: Blob Ford already bought it and buried it in the closet with those 3000 other skeletons.

This tin-foil hat really makes my head sweat.

I think that is why he held off making a statement about it. He got a copy of it.

The Ford bros current 'attack the media' position is going to bite them in the ass soon. They are going to dig up everything on these two. See the Globe and Mail article for proof.


Parts of the media have been trying to dig up dirt on him for years. I really doubt this changes anything.
 
2013-05-27 11:09:40 AM

sorhed: Farking Canuck: mbillips: I bet Toronton, Torontoanian, Toronters don't even care that much.

Close ... Torontonians.

Closer ... Trawntonians


"Those dicks who had to call in the army to shovel their snow"

/Ottawan
 
2013-05-27 11:13:51 AM

cretinbob: indiegogo=/=kickstarter

In any event I believe if you come up short in either, you don't get dick.


Indiegogo has a "Flexible Campaign" option that lets you keep what you raise if you don't reach your goal.  You pay 9% vs. 4% of campaigns that reach goals.
 
2013-05-27 11:14:14 AM
Murder? Don't care. As long as he didn't raise my taxes.

/This is what his supporters actually think.
//30%, enough for a win if voices of sanity split the rest of the vote
 
2013-05-27 11:15:42 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: unlikely: cretinbob: indiegogo=/=kickstarter

In any event I believe if you come up short in either, you don't get dick.

Indiegogo pays out even if you're short.

Then what does "Fixed Funding campaign...This campaign will only receive funds if at least $200,000 is raised by Mon 27 May 11:59PM PT." mean? Serious question; I'm unfamiliar with Indiegogo.


From their FAQ:

"If your campaign is set up as Flexible Funding, you will be able to keep the funds you raise, even if you don't meet your goal. If your campaign is set up as Fixed Funding, all contributions will be returned to your funders if you do not meet your goal. Flexible Funding campaigns that meet their goal are only charged 4% as our platform fee, whereas campaigns that do not meet their goal are charged 9%."
 
2013-05-27 11:16:24 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: sorhed: Farking Canuck: mbillips: I bet Toronton, Torontoanian, Toronters don't even care that much.

Close ... Torontonians.

Closer ... Trawntonians

"Those dicks who had to call in the army to shovel their snow"

/Ottawan


And somewhere Mel Lastman is laughing, elbowing people saying "Get a load of this Ford buffon"
 
2013-05-27 11:19:03 AM

Bonanza Jellybean: unlikely: cretinbob: indiegogo=/=kickstarter

In any event I believe if you come up short in either, you don't get dick.

Indiegogo pays out even if you're short.

Then what does "Fixed Funding campaign...This campaign will only receive funds if at least $200,000 is raised by Mon 27 May 11:59PM PT." mean? Serious question; I'm unfamiliar with Indiegogo.


It means I didn't go read the campaign, cretinbob was right, and you must all now send letters to my mother instructing her to love me less.
 
2013-05-27 11:19:58 AM

skinink: I still don't understand why people would donate money to a successful media company for a video of a Mayor doing drugs. I guess this will be standard procedure now, to crowdfund things rich companies don't want to pay for themselves. PT Barnum would have been happy to witness this whole thing.


Also, this.
 
2013-05-27 11:23:16 AM

unlikely: Bonanza Jellybean: unlikely: cretinbob: indiegogo=/=kickstarter

In any event I believe if you come up short in either, you don't get dick.

Indiegogo pays out even if you're short.

Then what does "Fixed Funding campaign...This campaign will only receive funds if at least $200,000 is raised by Mon 27 May 11:59PM PT." mean? Serious question; I'm unfamiliar with Indiegogo.

It means I didn't go read the campaign, cretinbob was right, and you must all now send letters to my mother instructing her to love me less.


I don't think she needs that instruction.
 
2013-05-27 11:24:01 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: sorhed: Farking Canuck: mbillips: I bet Toronton, Torontoanian, Toronters don't even care that much.

Close ... Torontonians.

Closer ... Trawntonians

"Those dicks who had to call in the army to shovel their snow"

/Ottawan


You know how hard it is to shovel with a latte in one hand?
 
2013-05-27 11:26:00 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: sorhed: Farking Canuck: mbillips: I bet Toronton, Torontoanian, Toronters don't even care that much.

Close ... Torontonians.

Closer ... Trawntonians

"Those dicks who had to call in the army to shovel their snow"

/Ottawan


We have to maintain our long history of entertaining mayors. That is what they're there for right?
 
2013-05-27 11:26:27 AM

Yes please: I'm sure $200000 paid to extortionist thugs will be money well spent.


It's a matter of whether you think the benefits of crushing Ford's re-election chances (and those of his friends and allies) outweighs the negative of injecting 200k into the area drug trade.
 
2013-05-27 11:27:11 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: sorhed: Farking Canuck: mbillips: I bet Toronton, Torontoanian, Toronters don't even care that much.

Close ... Torontonians.

Closer ... Trawntonians

"Those dicks who had to call in the army to shovel their snow"

/Ottawan


I'm not going to defend it, because I really don't care, but watching LAVs drive down Yonge street was farking awesome. It almost felt like I was in a different country at the time.
 
2013-05-27 11:38:56 AM

Mulchpuppy: From their FAQ:

"If your campaign is set up as Flexible Funding, you will be able to keep the funds you raise, even if you don't meet your goal. If your campaign is set up as Fixed Funding, all contributions will be returned to your funders if you do not meet your goal. Flexible Funding campaigns that meet their goal are only charged 4% as our platform fee, whereas campaigns that do not meet their goal are charged 9%."


Shakes fist at BarkingUnicorn
 
2013-05-27 11:48:33 AM
Media is saying video owner might be dead.
 
2013-05-27 11:50:19 AM
11.5 left with 15 hours to go.
 
2013-05-27 11:51:53 AM

ontariolightning: Media is saying video owner might be dead.


That was the first owner, possibly in reference to Anthony Smith, the guy flippin the bird.  The current owner is just hiding.
images.scribblelive.com
 
2013-05-27 12:06:55 PM

CokeBear: Murder? Don't care. As long as he didn't raise my taxes.

/This is what his supporters actually think.
//30%, enough for a win if voices of sanity split the rest of the vote


You mean over 47%? A whole 0.2% less than Pantalone and Smitherman combined?

The idea that Smitherman would have easily won without Pantalone running is just silly. It would have been closer, but the idea that you can just add up the votes of left leaning candidates is ignorant at best.
 
2013-05-27 12:07:10 PM

Yes please: I'm sure $200000 paid to extortionist thugs will be money well spent.


You sound just as sure as I am that there is no tape.
 
2013-05-27 12:08:31 PM

The_Fuzz: ontariolightning: Media is saying video owner might be dead.

That was the first owner, possibly in reference to Anthony Smith, the guy flippin the bird.  The current owner is just hiding.
[images.scribblelive.com image 295x197]


Anthony Smith was there that night but was shot to death on March 28th.

Sadly we most likely won't see this video.  I can only hope Gawker donates the money to Toronto based charities for drug and alcohol addiction.
 
2013-05-27 12:09:05 PM

skinink: I still don't understand why people would donate money to a successful media company for a video of a Mayor doing drugs. I guess this will be standard procedure now, to crowdfund things rich companies don't want to pay for themselves. PT Barnum would have been happy to witness this whole thing.


This is confusing to me, also...the guy from Ghost Hunters is apparently trying to raise a crap ton of cash through a kick starter to make a board game or something.  He has alot more money than most people so why would anyone pitch in to help him?  I don't get it at all...someone I am friend's with on facebook keeps sharing his pleas for money and I hope they were not stupid enough to contribute.
 
2013-05-27 12:15:55 PM

Cooper420: The_Fuzz: ontariolightning: Media is saying video owner might be dead.

That was the first owner, possibly in reference to Anthony Smith, the guy flippin the bird.  The current owner is just hiding.
[images.scribblelive.com image 295x197]

Anthony Smith was there that night but was shot to death on March 28th.

Sadly we most likely won't see this video.  I can only hope Gawker donates the money to Toronto based charities for drug and alcohol addiction.


This was posted in the comments of the crackstarter recently:

oakstreet said 36 minutes agojust got this via email:
Somalis already in NY - arrived before story broke to not raise ire of border agents at the advice of gawker
Celebrity bankroller angel sweeps in to top up the crackstarter before midnight. (hint: #winning!)
Video is released thurs. Doug Ford is svengali behind everything.
Smith murdered to cover up truth as he was Rob's crack dealer.
Please tell people on crackstarter to stop obfuscating about donations to addiction centers & video not existing.


So there is still hope.
 
2013-05-27 12:16:30 PM
Why not just force this public servant to a "drug test with suspicion"? Anyone else would either be immediately fired, or forced to pee in a cup. Then fired.

/ *Canada exception
// Do US Senators and Representatives need to take a drug test prior to their "employment", or is it a violation of their privacy and legislated that away?
/// Crack =/ Weed
 
2013-05-27 12:20:23 PM

base935: Why not just force this public servant to a "drug test with suspicion"?


Mandatory drug tests are only for wage slaves and welfare recipients, not public servants, silly.
 
2013-05-27 12:33:11 PM

Bonanza Jellybean: base935: Why not just force this public servant to a "drug test with suspicion"?

Mandatory drug tests are only for wage slaves and welfare recipients, not public servants, silly.


Not just that, cocaine only stays in one's system between one to three days, up to maybe five if abused constantly. Drug testing the mayor at this point would be completely pointless.
 
2013-05-27 12:54:45 PM

FuzedBox: Bonanza Jellybean: base935: Why not just force this public servant to a "drug test with suspicion"?

Mandatory drug tests are only for wage slaves and welfare recipients, not public servants, silly.

Not just that, cocaine only stays in one's system between one to three days, up to maybe five if abused constantly. Drug testing the mayor at this point would be completely pointless.


The KFC content in his urine/blood would nullify any results anyway.
 
2013-05-27 01:04:27 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: sorhed: Farking Canuck: mbillips: I bet Toronton, Torontoanian, Toronters don't even care that much.

Close ... Torontonians.

Closer ... Trawntonians

"Those dicks who had to call in the army to shovel their snow"

/Ottawan


That episode was even more dickish than people realise. We needed the army to shovel the snow (and we actually did need them - we got a shiatload of snow in 2 storms, and ambulances and stuff were immobilised) because the idiots who ran the city sold off a bunch of the equipment, figuring that private contractors would buy it and could be hired to supplement the reduced city crews. Instead, the equipment was bought by more sensible cities that understood that winter is coming. Also, they decided to save money by only having the crews on call from December 1 instead of November 15, and the first storm hit at the end of November. It hadn't been cleaned up yet when we got the second one.

And yet that crew, which apparently forgot that it snows in Canada, look like geniuses compared with the current administration. And somehow 36% of the public still supports the mayor. I'm not sure if that changes even if the tape shows up. I'd start thinking about moving back to my hometown of Montreal, but at least in Toronto we can drink the water.
 
2013-05-27 01:04:27 PM

FuzedBox: Bonanza Jellybean: base935: Why not just force this public servant to a "drug test with suspicion"?

Mandatory drug tests are only for wage slaves and welfare recipients, not public servants, silly.

Not just that, cocaine only stays in one's system between one to three days, up to maybe five if abused constantly. Drug testing the mayor at this point would be completely pointless.


Apparently it depends on the test.

Unfortunately for us, Ford went from longish hair in April to getting a buzz cut just around the time of this coming out...  Completely coincidental I'm sure, but it does mean you can't do any hair tests.

However, from reading a few things here and there, while coke only stays for a few days it does cause the doomathingy levels to go (up/down) which can be detected up to 6 or 8 weeks after consumption if it's a chronic user.
 
2013-05-27 01:05:00 PM

FuzedBox: Bonanza Jellybean: base935: Why not just force this public servant to a "drug test with suspicion"?

Mandatory drug tests are only for wage slaves and welfare recipients, not public servants, silly.

Not just that, cocaine only stays in one's system between one to three days, up to maybe five if abused constantly. Drug testing the mayor at this point would be completely pointless.


I suspect it's one of the reasons why he waited a week before saying ANYTHING about the video.

As long as he stays clean his drug test will come up negative. Only pot can be detected for longer than a week do to it being fat-based.
 
2013-05-27 01:39:10 PM
I don't know what this world is coming to if the Mayor of a city that size can't smoke a bit of crack every once in awhile.
 
2013-05-27 01:39:18 PM

shortymac: FuzedBox: Bonanza Jellybean: base935: Why not just force this public servant to a "drug test with suspicion"?

Mandatory drug tests are only for wage slaves and welfare recipients, not public servants, silly.

Not just that, cocaine only stays in one's system between one to three days, up to maybe five if abused constantly. Drug testing the mayor at this point would be completely pointless.

I suspect it's one of the reasons why he waited a week before saying ANYTHING about the video.

As long as he stays clean his drug test will come up negative. Only pot can be detected for longer than a week do to it being fat-based.


He was never going to submit to a drug test.

I have no doubt in my mind that the tape is real and he's in it. Just look at his track record and of his siblings.

The Globe and Mail article mentioned above is a great read. The four siblings are messed up.  Domestic abuse, murder, kidnapping, drug dealing and white supremacists? That is awesome on so many levels.
 
2013-05-27 02:04:12 PM
And... his press secretary and deputy press secretary just quit.  Rats fleeing!
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/05/27/mayor-rob-fords-press-secretary -q uits
 
2013-05-27 02:07:12 PM

The_Fuzz: And... his press secretary and deputy press secretary just quit.  Rats fleeing!
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/05/27/mayor-rob-fords-press-secretary -q uits


Holy crap...this just keeps getting better and better.
 
2013-05-27 02:11:47 PM
Just saw this on Twitter: Mayor Rob Ford searching empty offices.
 
2013-05-27 02:14:31 PM

Lego_Addict: shortymac: FuzedBox: Bonanza Jellybean: base935: Why not just force this public servant to a "drug test with suspicion"?

Mandatory drug tests are only for wage slaves and welfare recipients, not public servants, silly.

Not just that, cocaine only stays in one's system between one to three days, up to maybe five if abused constantly. Drug testing the mayor at this point would be completely pointless.

I suspect it's one of the reasons why he waited a week before saying ANYTHING about the video.

As long as he stays clean his drug test will come up negative. Only pot can be detected for longer than a week do to it being fat-based.

He was never going to submit to a drug test.

I have no doubt in my mind that the tape is real and he's in it. Just look at his track record and of his siblings.

The Globe and Mail article mentioned above is a great read. The four siblings are messed up.  Domestic abuse, murder, kidnapping, drug dealing and white supremacists? That is awesome on so many levels.


Unfortunately for Toronto and everyone trying to get real work done at city hall, they are stuck with Rob Ford and his family circus no matter how kooky the circus gets, and it sounds like Rob Ford himself wasn't directly involved in the antics of his siblings. Unless it turns out that Rob Ford murdered a guy, I don't think there's any way to get him out of office. There's no way he'll resign.
 
2013-05-27 02:16:28 PM

Mulchpuppy: Bonanza Jellybean: unlikely: cretinbob: indiegogo=/=kickstarter

In any event I believe if you come up short in either, you don't get dick.

Indiegogo pays out even if you're short.

Then what does "Fixed Funding campaign...This campaign will only receive funds if at least $200,000 is raised by Mon 27 May 11:59PM PT." mean? Serious question; I'm unfamiliar with Indiegogo.

From their FAQ:

"If your campaign is set up as Flexible Funding, you will be able to keep the funds you raise, even if you don't meet your goal. If your campaign is set up as Fixed Funding, all contributions will be returned to your funders if you do not meet your goal. Flexible Funding campaigns that meet their goal are only charged 4% as our platform fee, whereas campaigns that do not meet their goal are charged 9%."


I'd say nobody donate anything to stick these wankers with a bill for $18,000.
 
2013-05-27 02:28:47 PM

base935: Why not just force this public servant to a "drug test with suspicion"? Anyone else would either be immediately fired, or forced to pee in a cup. Then fired.

/ *Canada exception
// Do US Senators and Representatives need to take a drug test prior to their "employment", or is it a violation of their privacy and legislated that away?
/// Crack =/ Weed


In Canada, drug tests by employers are for the most part not allowed, since they can't detect actual on-the-job impairment, only past use. And you mostly can't immediately fire people for drug use since addiction is considered a disability - you need to give the opportunity for rehab, etc.

None of that would stop Ford from agreeing to a hair test, of course - too bad he just got a convenient very short haircut.
 
2013-05-27 02:30:43 PM

ruta: Lego_Addict: shortymac: FuzedBox: Bonanza Jellybean: base935: Why not just force this public servant to a "drug test with suspicion"?

Mandatory drug tests are only for wage slaves and welfare recipients, not public servants, silly.

Not just that, cocaine only stays in one's system between one to three days, up to maybe five if abused constantly. Drug testing the mayor at this point would be completely pointless.

I suspect it's one of the reasons why he waited a week before saying ANYTHING about the video.

As long as he stays clean his drug test will come up negative. Only pot can be detected for longer than a week do to it being fat-based.

He was never going to submit to a drug test.

I have no doubt in my mind that the tape is real and he's in it. Just look at his track record and of his siblings.

The Globe and Mail article mentioned above is a great read. The four siblings are messed up.  Domestic abuse, murder, kidnapping, drug dealing and white supremacists? That is awesome on so many levels.

Unfortunately for Toronto and everyone trying to get real work done at city hall, they are stuck with Rob Ford and his family circus no matter how kooky the circus gets, and it sounds like Rob Ford himself wasn't directly involved in the antics of his siblings. Unless it turns out that Rob Ford murdered a guy, I don't think there's any way to get him out of office. There's no way he'll resign.


The Rob Ford show will continue until he decides it's over, unfortunately. He wants the title of Mayor, but not the responsability of being Mayor. His brother wants to run the City, but has the charisma of a pair of fetid dingo's kidneys.

I think the councilors will find a way to work around Ford, they've been doing it for almost a year now as it is. Maybe they can carry on better if he's stays at home sulking or hiding from the press.
 
2013-05-27 02:32:25 PM
angrycrank:

In Canada, drug tests by employers are for the most part not allowed, since they can't detect actual on-the-job impairment, only past use. And you mostly can't immediately fire people for drug use since addiction is considered a disability - you need to give the opportunity for rehab, etc.

None of that would stop Ford from agreeing to a hair test, of course - too bad he just got a convenient very short haircut.


Not true.  Lots of employers do drug tests.  Try to work in the fieldwork side of the oil industry and see how far you get without them.  I know a guy in home construction that is getting random ones too.
 
2013-05-27 02:39:16 PM

The_Fuzz: angrycrank:

In Canada, drug tests by employers are for the most part not allowed, since they can't detect actual on-the-job impairment, only past use. And you mostly can't immediately fire people for drug use since addiction is considered a disability - you need to give the opportunity for rehab, etc.

None of that would stop Ford from agreeing to a hair test, of course - too bad he just got a convenient very short haircut.

Not true.  Lots of employers do drug tests.  Try to work in the fieldwork side of the oil industry and see how far you get without them.  I know a guy in home construction that is getting random ones too.


I am Canadian as well and while some few employers drug test, the large majority don't. Even my friends and relatives who work for the federal government do not get drug tested, neither did I when I worked in a kindergarden or any other job I've ever had. As for your friend, any guy in home construction whos boss does drug testing works for a controlling douchebag.
 
2013-05-27 02:42:33 PM
Test an eyebrow hair or something then.  Those grow quite slowly and will hold traces of drugs too.

Fark this god damn idiot fat man.
 
2013-05-27 02:43:42 PM

Pope Larry II: The Rob Ford show will continue until he decides it's over, unfortunately. He wants the title of Mayor, but not the responsability of being Mayor. His brother wants to run the City, but has the charisma of a pair of fetid dingo's kidneys.

I think the councilors will find a way to work around Ford, they've been doing it for almost a year now as it is. Maybe they can carry on better if he's stays at home sulking or hiding from the press.


I imagine it's a challenge to try to get work done when the "boss" is lumbering around the office hunting for his missing staff, wheezing expletives. He's about to make a statement about his press secretaries (plural!) quitting. Hopefully he announces that he's going to his cottage and won't be back until the fall.
 
2013-05-27 02:52:33 PM

Haplo127x: The_Fuzz: angrycrank:

In Canada, drug tests by employers are for the most part not allowed, since they can't detect actual on-the-job impairment, only past use. And you mostly can't immediately fire people for drug use since addiction is considered a disability - you need to give the opportunity for rehab, etc.

None of that would stop Ford from agreeing to a hair test, of course - too bad he just got a convenient very short haircut.

Not true.  Lots of employers do drug tests.  Try to work in the fieldwork side of the oil industry and see how far you get without them.  I know a guy in home construction that is getting random ones too.

I am Canadian as well and while some few employers drug test, the large majority don't. Even my friends and relatives who work for the federal government do not get drug tested, neither did I when I worked in a kindergarden or any other job I've ever had. As for your friend, any guy in home construction whos boss does drug testing works for a controlling douchebag.


Its mostly the oil industry, as far as I am aware.  They have a major problem with it, given the long durations in remote locations, and the mostly young single male workers.  I don't think they can do random drug tests, its a requirement to get the job though.  They can do tests if they suspect use.

As for my friend in construction, not sure the details, but I think it was just a hiring requirement, not random as I stated.  Don't know the details.
 
2013-05-27 03:07:05 PM

angrycrank: God Is My Co-Pirate: sorhed: Farking Canuck: mbillips: I bet Toronton, Torontoanian, Toronters don't even care that much.

Close ... Torontonians.

Closer ... Trawntonians

"Those dicks who had to call in the army to shovel their snow"

/Ottawan

That episode was even more dickish than people realise. We needed the army to shovel the snow (and we actually did need them - we got a shiatload of snow in 2 storms, and ambulances and stuff were immobilised) because the idiots who ran the city sold off a bunch of the equipment, figuring that private contractors would buy it and could be hired to supplement the reduced city crews. Instead, the equipment was bought by more sensible cities that understood that winter is coming. Also, they decided to save money by only having the crews on call from December 1 instead of November 15, and the first storm hit at the end of November. It hadn't been cleaned up yet when we got the second one.

And yet that crew, which apparently forgot that it snows in Canada, look like geniuses compared with the current administration. And somehow 36% of the public still supports the mayor. I'm not sure if that changes even if the tape shows up. I'd start thinking about moving back to my hometown of Montreal, but at least in Toronto we can drink the water.


I lived in toronto during that storm. I had moved from thunder bay the previous year.

toronto did not need the army at all.

toronto=pus*y
 
PJ-
2013-05-27 03:08:31 PM

Glenford: God Is My Co-Pirate: sorhed: Farking Canuck: mbillips: I bet Toronton, Torontoanian, Toronters don't even care that much.

Close ... Torontonians.

Closer ... Trawntonians

"Those dicks who had to call in the army to shovel their snow"

/Ottawan


I'm with you, that never gets old, but I just cut it down to 'idiots'.  To get a reaction out of their basketball fans, they have to splash an image of Alfie on the big screen so they boo when the opposing team shoots free throws.

/fellow-Ottawan
 
2013-05-27 03:08:51 PM
Blackmailing at a whole new level!
 
2013-05-27 03:11:54 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Yes please: I'm sure $200000 paid to extortionist thugs will be money well spent.

You sound just as sure as I am that there is no tape.


I think that they may have faked it and a couple of idiots who call themselves reporters saw a glimpse of it and bought the story hook line and sinker.
then the globe and mail comes up with an article making all sorts of allegations about the family based on nothing but anonymous sources who won't go on the record about stuff that happened back in the 80's

this could be another Swiftboat. All smoke and mirrors with but tall tales from people who are sketchy to say the least.
 
2013-05-27 03:17:13 PM

The_Fuzz: Haplo127x: The_Fuzz: angrycrank:

In Canada, drug tests by employers are for the most part not allowed, since they can't detect actual on-the-job impairment, only past use. And you mostly can't immediately fire people for drug use since addiction is considered a disability - you need to give the opportunity for rehab, etc.

None of that would stop Ford from agreeing to a hair test, of course - too bad he just got a convenient very short haircut.

Not true.  Lots of employers do drug tests.  Try to work in the fieldwork side of the oil industry and see how far you get without them.  I know a guy in home construction that is getting random ones too.

I am Canadian as well and while some few employers drug test, the large majority don't. Even my friends and relatives who work for the federal government do not get drug tested, neither did I when I worked in a kindergarden or any other job I've ever had. As for your friend, any guy in home construction whos boss does drug testing works for a controlling douchebag.

Its mostly the oil industry, as far as I am aware.  They have a major problem with it, given the long durations in remote locations, and the mostly young single male workers.  I don't think they can do random drug tests, its a requirement to get the job though.  They can do tests if they suspect use.

As for my friend in construction, not sure the details, but I think it was just a hiring requirement, not random as I stated.  Don't know the details.


I said "mostly" for a reason. There are a couple of ongoing court cases by oil sands and construction industry employers, but if you look at the drug testing policies of the provincial human rights commissions, they all say similar things - limited to safety-sensitive positions (so the mayor wouldn't count), random tests are suspect, post-incident and for-cause testing needs to take into account the fact that while alcohol testing can measure actual impairment, drug tests don't, and drug/alcohol dependence is a disability and subject to reasonable accommodation and protection against discrimination requirements. Some provinces (Alberta for example) don't take a position on testing per se, but have directives limiting how tests can be used. A policy that workers who fail drug tests are automatically fired would be highly likely to be found discriminatory.
 
2013-05-27 03:20:32 PM
Seems to be making pretty good progress, I'm thinking they'll reach the goal amount.  It's now 12 hours to go and a bit more than $3000 left.
 
2013-05-27 03:20:58 PM

Hobodeluxe: The My Little Pony Killer: Yes please: I'm sure $200000 paid to extortionist thugs will be money well spent.

You sound just as sure as I am that there is no tape.

I think that they may have faked it and a couple of idiots who call themselves reporters saw a glimpse of it and bought the story hook line and sinker.
then the globe and mail comes up with an article making all sorts of allegations about the family based on nothing but anonymous sources who won't go on the record about stuff that happened back in the 80's

this could be another Swiftboat. All smoke and mirrors with but tall tales from people who are sketchy to say the least.


This is not like the swiftboating. The Mayor has a history of being an ass (the Florida DUI, getting tossed out of a hockey game). This event, even without the video, is entirely plausable. For example there is a photo of him with a know drug dealer, who ended up dead a few weeks ago. To my knowledge, Kerry was never photographed shooting himself in the foot.
 
2013-05-27 03:36:04 PM

Hobodeluxe: The My Little Pony Killer: Yes please: I'm sure $200000 paid to extortionist thugs will be money well spent.

You sound just as sure as I am that there is no tape.

I think that they may have faked it and a couple of idiots who call themselves reporters saw a glimpse of it and bought the story hook line and sinker.
then the globe and mail comes up with an article making all sorts of allegations about the family based on nothing but anonymous sources who won't go on the record about stuff that happened back in the 80's

this could be another Swiftboat. All smoke and mirrors with but tall tales from people who are sketchy to say the least.


I'd say we've found Doug's fark account, but he'd have far more profanity in his response.

$197,910 now, so it's gonna be raised, no matter what.

My guess: the video will quietly change hands along with Gawker's money, the money will go to charity because "they can't find the guy", and then they'll magically "find" the video a few days later to avoid extortion and PR issues. Toronto gets the video, charity gets the money, Gawker looks less like they're paying drug dealers for dirt, the end.
 
2013-05-27 03:58:28 PM
Well, the 200k goal was met.

But this is a concern "UPDATE-- MAY 27, 2013, 9:46 AM EASTERN EDT: We have had no further contact with the people we believe to have custody of this video since the last update."
 
2013-05-27 04:21:45 PM
1.Become mayor
2.Record yourself smoking crack
3.Sell crack smoking tape for 200k
4.Buy more crack
 
2013-05-27 04:23:51 PM

FlyingBacon: Well, the 200k goal was met.

But this is a concern "UPDATE-- MAY 27, 2013, 9:46 AM EASTERN EDT: We have had no further contact with the people we believe to have custody of this video since the last update."


Hopefully the shady mofos were just waiting for the amount to be raised to get back in touch (not like you'd want to make it too easy for anyone to find you).  We'll see soon I suppose.
 
2013-05-27 04:28:43 PM
he fired his chief of staff and two press secretaries quit. I'd say the workplace is poisonous.
 
Ral
2013-05-27 04:36:36 PM
People don't care about mayors being drug users.  Washington DC re-elected Marion Barry even after the video of him smoking crack became public.
 
2013-05-27 04:41:44 PM
The biggest tragedy in all of this is that Chris Farley is no longer around to portray Ford on TV.  Man, that would a been comedy gold right there.

/in a van
//down by the river!
 
2013-05-27 04:54:21 PM

Ral: People don't care about mayors being drug users.  Washington DC re-elected Marion Barry even after the video of him smoking crack became public.


Marion Barry was able to play the race card. Not kidding. He cried persecution for his race. Not being a racist POS either because I twice voted for Obama, but I also lived in the DC area before moving to Canada. There is a huge difference between Ford and Berry. Barry was slick. Ford is a buffoon.
 
2013-05-27 05:05:28 PM

Abner Doon: FlyingBacon: Well, the 200k goal was met.

But this is a concern "UPDATE-- MAY 27, 2013, 9:46 AM EASTERN EDT: We have had no further contact with the people we believe to have custody of this video since the last update."

Hopefully the shady mofos were just waiting for the amount to be raised to get back in touch (not like you'd want to make it too easy for anyone to find you).  We'll see soon I suppose.


I dunno. I thought my paranoid friends were just beig paranoid when they said the Fords would have the tape owner killed, but it's sounding like he might have gotten whacked (though not necessarily by the Fords) - http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/gawke r-surpasses-200k-goal-to-obtain- alleged-drug-video-1.1298267
 
2013-05-27 05:17:31 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/05/27/rob-ford-video-copies-robyn-d o olittle_n_3343234.html

"Actually, there's at least one another copy, there might be two other copies," Doolittle said. "One is out of the city, and one is somewhere else."

Well this is good news, if true....
 
2013-05-27 06:01:15 PM

The_Fuzz: angrycrank:

In Canada, drug tests by employers are for the most part not allowed, since they can't detect actual on-the-job impairment, only past use. And you mostly can't immediately fire people for drug use since addiction is considered a disability - you need to give the opportunity for rehab, etc.

None of that would stop Ford from agreeing to a hair test, of course - too bad he just got a convenient very short haircut.

Not true.  Lots of employers do drug tests.  Try to work in the fieldwork side of the oil industry and see how far you get without them.  I know a guy in home construction that is getting random ones too.


It is pretty damned hard to fire anyone based on it even if you test them. Refusing to higher is also pretty hard, but you can always BS that one.

I worked at a moving company and the only reason we could get the tests is that drivers could not legally do their job if they tested positive (as in they would get charged for DUI and lose their license).
 
2013-05-27 06:02:40 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-27 06:06:28 PM

ruta: Lego_Addict: shortymac: FuzedBox: Bonanza Jellybean: base935: Why not just force this public servant to a "drug test with suspicion"?

Mandatory drug tests are only for wage slaves and welfare recipients, not public servants, silly.

Not just that, cocaine only stays in one's system between one to three days, up to maybe five if abused constantly. Drug testing the mayor at this point would be completely pointless.

I suspect it's one of the reasons why he waited a week before saying ANYTHING about the video.

As long as he stays clean his drug test will come up negative. Only pot can be detected for longer than a week do to it being fat-based.

He was never going to submit to a drug test.

I have no doubt in my mind that the tape is real and he's in it. Just look at his track record and of his siblings.

The Globe and Mail article mentioned above is a great read. The four siblings are messed up.  Domestic abuse, murder, kidnapping, drug dealing and white supremacists? That is awesome on so many levels.

Unfortunately for Toronto and everyone trying to get real work done at city hall, they are stuck with Rob Ford and his family circus no matter how kooky the circus gets, and it sounds like Rob Ford himself wasn't directly involved in the antics of his siblings. Unless it turns out that Rob Ford murdered a guy, I don't think there's any way to get him out of office. There's no way he'll resign.


He has done exactly what those who voted for him wanted. Large and broad budget cuts and preventing any additional funding for Transit. And generally not doing very much.

Just because you have a different opinion as to his job than the people who voted for him doesn't mean he isn't doing his job.
 
2013-05-27 06:18:11 PM

unlikely: cretinbob: indiegogo=/=kickstarter

In any event I believe if you come up short in either, you don't get dick.

Indiegogo pays out even if you're short.


Only for certain campaigns. You basically get to choose which way you want to go when you set up the campaign -- theirs is all or nothing.
 
2013-05-27 07:26:16 PM

dywed88: He has done exactly what those who voted for him wanted. Large and broad budget cuts and preventing any additional funding for Transit. And generally not doing very much.

Just because you have a different opinion as to his job than the people who voted for him doesn't mean he isn't doing his job.


Uh, he hasn't cut the budget even a little bit. He promised $2B in cuts by 2013. The 2010 budget was $9.2B. The proposed 2013 budget is $9.4B.

But you're right about him generally not doing very much. While being paid with your tax dollars!
 
2013-05-27 07:45:33 PM

angrycrank: God Is My Co-Pirate: sorhed: Farking Canuck: mbillips: I bet Toronton, Torontoanian, Toronters don't even care that much.

Close ... Torontonians.

Closer ... Trawntonians

"Those dicks who had to call in the army to shovel their snow"

/Ottawan

That episode was even more dickish than people realise. We needed the army to shovel the snow (and we actually did need them - we got a shiatload of snow in 2 storms, and ambulances and stuff were immobilised) because the idiots who ran the city sold off a bunch of the equipment, figuring that private contractors would buy it and could be hired to supplement the reduced city crews. Instead, the equipment was bought by more sensible cities that understood that winter is coming. Also, they decided to save money by only having the crews on call from December 1 instead of November 15, and the first storm hit at the end of November. It hadn't been cleaned up yet when we got the second one.

And yet that crew, which apparently forgot that it snows in Canada, look like geniuses compared with the current administration. And somehow 36% of the public still supports the mayor. I'm not sure if that changes even if the tape shows up. I'd start thinking about moving back to my hometown of Montreal, but at least in Toronto we can drink the water.


Why cant you drink montreal water?

(Going there in July)
 
2013-05-27 08:07:56 PM

tripleseven: angrycrank: God Is My Co-Pirate: sorhed: Farking Canuck: mbillips: I bet Toronton, Torontoanian, Toronters don't even care that much.

Close ... Torontonians.

Closer ... Trawntonians

"Those dicks who had to call in the army to shovel their snow"

/Ottawan

That episode was even more dickish than people realise. We needed the army to shovel the snow (and we actually did need them - we got a shiatload of snow in 2 storms, and ambulances and stuff were immobilised) because the idiots who ran the city sold off a bunch of the equipment, figuring that private contractors would buy it and could be hired to supplement the reduced city crews. Instead, the equipment was bought by more sensible cities that understood that winter is coming. Also, they decided to save money by only having the crews on call from December 1 instead of November 15, and the first storm hit at the end of November. It hadn't been cleaned up yet when we got the second one.

And yet that crew, which apparently forgot that it snows in Canada, look like geniuses compared with the current administration. And somehow 36% of the public still supports the mayor. I'm not sure if that changes even if the tape shows up. I'd start thinking about moving back to my hometown of Montreal, but at least in Toronto we can drink the water.

Why cant you drink montreal water?

(Going there in July)


They had a 2-day boil water order for 1.3 million people this week. Maintainance problems at the treatment plant. Normally the water's fine.
 
2013-05-27 08:16:20 PM
This guy seems like a dick. But is giving 200K to somali drug dealers really the best use of your money? They'll just use it to buy more product, and get more children killed, hooked, and/or farked for life. All you cause by getting this video published is pain and suffering, to victims of drug crime, to Ford's family and friends. No good comes of it at all, even if it turfs an allegedly bad mayor. Doesn't Toronto have any sort of Recall mechanism? An election seems like the best recourse from a moral and ethical standpoint.

/this is a matter for the OPP/RCMP/Whomever is the police in Toronto, not Gawker (i have no idea why that asshole of journalism even cares about Toronto since its articles spend so much time wanking off NYC)
 
2013-05-27 10:22:43 PM

MadSkillz: Doesn't Toronto have any sort of Recall mechanism?


You cannot recall someone based on claims of a video that might have shown something.

There is this concept of innocent until proven guilty that we like to hold on to.
 
2013-05-27 11:16:05 PM

Farking Canuck: MadSkillz: Doesn't Toronto have any sort of Recall mechanism?

You cannot recall someone based on claims of a video that might have shown something.

There is this concept of innocent until proven guilty that we like to hold on to.


So if he just makes a bunch of poor decisions and all but farks your city but commits no crimes, he cannot be recalled? haha
 
2013-05-28 08:51:57 AM

MadSkillz: So if he just makes a bunch of poor decisions and all but farks your city but commits no crimes, he cannot be recalled? haha


You know it is funny. I am not a Ford supporter as he is a complete PR moron but, from the standpoint of what he has done as mayor, I do not think his supporters are overly unhappy.

Keep in mind all of the following does not include the smoking crack incident as it is nothing more than unsupported hearsay at this point.

He has not been able to trim the budgets as much as he promised but he is trying to make good on the promise. He had success with the garbage privatization. And he fought like hell for the subway line ... but eventually lost that fight.

Most of his offenses are pretty minor considering he is a mayor of a major city: misappropriation of funds? $1500 to charity - not millions to his own pocket. Not paying attention while driving? Yeah the evil bastard was doing work and doesn't like wasting city funds on a driver. All the rest are pretty minor as well ... most of which stem from the fact that he is a grade A asshole. But they are not impeachable offenses.

People need to understand that when the majority of people vote someone in then you don't get to oust them just because you don't like him (yes I may be talking about other politicians here as well). They serve out their term and then you get to try to get your candidate in next round.
 
2013-05-28 11:24:01 AM

ruta: dywed88: He has done exactly what those who voted for him wanted. Large and broad budget cuts and preventing any additional funding for Transit. And generally not doing very much.

Just because you have a different opinion as to his job than the people who voted for him doesn't mean he isn't doing his job.

Uh, he hasn't cut the budget even a little bit. He promised $2B in cuts by 2013. The 2010 budget was $9.2B. The proposed 2013 budget is $9.4B.

But you're right about him generally not doing very much. While being paid with your tax dollars!


Ok, thanks. I stand corrected.

All I know is that when I last paid attention to Toronto politics everyone was complaining that he was cutting too much.
 
2013-05-28 06:05:38 PM
By calling the media that are hassling him "maggots", does that mean that he admits he is "Dead Meat"?

Freudian slip, or just another non-creative insult from one of the dumbest mayors of a major city on the planet?
 
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