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(NBA)   San Antonio can finish the Western Conference finals by beating Memphis tonight, surprising people who didn't realize that the Heat/Pacers series isn't the NBA Finals. Game 4 in Memphis, 9PM ET   (nba.com) divider line 123
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2013-05-28 12:28:11 AM  

my lip balm addiction: So why do the talking heads on ESPN keep asking how long Lionel Hollins will still be coaching Memphis? Why would they fire him? He has done that team good (despite shoving Bayless around tonight).


His contract runs out this year, basically making him a free agent coach, and from what I've heard, the Clippers are gunning pretty hard for him.
 
2013-05-28 12:30:56 AM  

TheManofPA: Odd, since the first title was in 99, Duncan could win a title in 3 different decades. Has any major player done that before?


Can't think of any off the top of my head. Kareem won in 71 and 88, though, so he might still hold the record for longest gap.
 
2013-05-28 12:31:41 AM  

my lip balm addiction: So why do the talking heads on ESPN keep asking how long Lionel Hollins will still be coaching Memphis? Why would they fire him? He has done that team good (despite shoving Bayless around tonight).


gotta have a story, honestly thought the pushed the dantoni did such a terrible job too far, given he had no training camp multiple injuries and made the 7th seed
 
2013-05-28 12:42:43 AM  

pjlawrence81: my lip balm addiction: So why do the talking heads on ESPN keep asking how long Lionel Hollins will still be coaching Memphis? Why would they fire him? He has done that team good (despite shoving Bayless around tonight).

His contract runs out this year, basically making him a free agent coach, and from what I've heard, the Clippers are gunning pretty hard for him.


OK that makes sense. It's not about what he did with Memphis, but about his contract and the fact that someone may overpay. Got it.
 
2013-05-28 12:47:36 AM  
2 dunks by same player for the first time ever in a WNBA game.

I'm just going to state that and let the tread do what it will
 
2013-05-28 12:54:21 AM  

TheManofPA: 2 dunks by same player for the first time ever in a WNBA game.

I'm just going to state that and let the tread do what it will


Yeah and it will be a top play I am sure, was it the manish lesbian chick from baylor?
 
2013-05-28 12:56:14 AM  

my lip balm addiction: pjlawrence81: my lip balm addiction: So why do the talking heads on ESPN keep asking how long Lionel Hollins will still be coaching Memphis? Why would they fire him? He has done that team good (despite shoving Bayless around tonight).

His contract runs out this year, basically making him a free agent coach, and from what I've heard, the Clippers are gunning pretty hard for him.

OK that makes sense. It's not about what he did with Memphis, but about his contract and the fact that someone may overpay. Got it.


I think Hollins has done a pretty good job. Memphis is rugged and plays with a great team concept. If they had a couple of above-average shooters (and Rudy Gay isn't one), they would be extremely dangerous.
 
2013-05-28 01:02:59 AM  
Call it unfair or sexist or what not but if they want me to watch the wnba they need more of the girls from notre damn and delaware that were high in the draft and they need to wear the australian womens basketball outfits


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Fair or not in womens sports sex sells
 
2013-05-28 01:06:58 AM  
http://sexdrogabodiroga.blogspot.com/2011/02/approved.html  NS4W, that is lauren Jackson BTW she plays in the WNBA never noticed till the olympics
 
2013-05-28 01:11:31 AM  

TheManofPA: Odd, since the first title was in 99, Duncan could win a title in 3 different decades. Has any major player done that before?


That's a good bit of trivia. I looked a little through Wikipedia, and it's happened very rarely in any of the 4 major sports. Never in the NBA, a couple of the old-timer Yankees in MLB, & Patrick Roy in the NHL (again, those were just the ones I bothered to look up). I didn't really check for NFL players, since I figured, outside of QBs and kickers, no one really plays long enough to pull off that kind of feat. Would be cool to get a complete list of guys that have done it, though.
 
2013-05-28 02:05:30 AM  
I'll just start with Go Spurs Go so you know where I come from and really don't want to read the thread this late tonight.

A couple of thoughts/questions/whatever.

Timmy is the same age as Kobe but we never hear about how old Kobe is.
Pop should retire because?
Manu caught a freakin bat in his hands. But he has slowed down.

You know what, never mind. I've been proud to follow them since they came to San Antonio. The Spurs have been there, done that, won lost.

But they've always been a class act. Winning or losing and they will always be that. That speaks to the team, the coaches, the front office, owners and fans. And the State of Texas and City of San Antonio.

GO SPURS GO
 
2013-05-28 02:31:25 AM  

pjlawrence81: TheManofPA: Odd, since the first title was in 99, Duncan could win a title in 3 different decades. Has any major player done that before?

That's a good bit of trivia. I looked a little through Wikipedia, and it's happened very rarely in any of the 4 major sports. Never in the NBA, a couple of the old-timer Yankees in MLB, & Patrick Roy in the NHL (again, those were just the ones I bothered to look up). I didn't really check for NFL players, since I figured, outside of QBs and kickers, no one really plays long enough to pull off that kind of feat. Would be cool to get a complete list of guys that have done it, though.


I don't think anyone's done it in the NFL. Gene Upshaw, Jerry Rice and Bill Romanowski(?) all appeared in Super Bowls in three decades, but they each lost at least one of the three -- oddly all with the Raiduhs.
 
2013-05-28 03:12:33 AM  

Chigroe Please: Timmy is the same age as Kobe but we never hear about how old Kobe is.


Kobe is 34, Timmy is 37. That 3 year difference in basketball (and life) is significant.
 
2013-05-28 03:56:26 AM  

WillofJ2: http://sexdrogabodiroga.blogspot.com/2011/02/approved.html  NS4W, that is lauren Jackson BTW she plays in the WNBA never noticed till the olympics


nice.

Are they still "artistic" nudes if someone faps to them?
 
2013-05-28 04:01:26 AM  

Chigroe Please: I'll just start with Go Spurs Go so you know where I come from and really don't want to read the thread this late tonight.

A couple of thoughts/questions/whatever.

Timmy is the same age as Kobe but we never hear about how old Kobe is.
Pop should retire because?
Manu caught a freakin bat in his hands. But he has slowed down.

You know what, never mind. I've been proud to follow them since they came to San Antonio. The Spurs have been there, done that, won lost.

But they've always been a class act. Winning or losing and they will always be that. That speaks to the team, the coaches, the front office, owners and fans. And the State of Texas and City of San Antonio.

GO SPURS GO


lol The Spurs are classy but that has nothing to do with that backwards republican shiathole of a state.  In fact it's a great credit to them they are able to succeed despite that association.
 
2013-05-28 04:06:05 AM  

TheJoe03: Chigroe Please: Timmy is the same age as Kobe but we never hear about how old Kobe is.

Kobe is 34, Timmy is 37. That 3 year difference in basketball (and life) is significant.


Don't the people questioning whether Kobe can comeback from his Achilles injury because of his age count?
 
2013-05-28 08:30:07 AM  

TheManofPA: I've stated all playoffs that the Spurs are the only ones who could beat Miami and that's if this is Pop and Duncan's all-in last ride. Even then, they'll be lucky to win in 6 and most likely Heat still dominate.

The Spurs need to make one big move...there is but one man who can stop LeBron James. He's LeBron's kyrptonite.

First he did LBJ's mom
Then he did his baby mama.
Maybe now, he could dryhump LBJ all game.

[solecollector.com image 850x566]


Can a comment thread be done in 1?

'Cause damn, if it could, this one's it.
 
2013-05-28 08:46:53 AM  

WillofJ2: memphis shot twice as many free throws, refs tried


There was a series early in the 4th where on two trips down the floor Zach Randolph commited about 5 offensive fouls in less than a minute and didn't get whistled on a single one.

They were letting him run around like a bull.
 
2013-05-28 12:58:29 PM  

TheJoe03: Chigroe Please: Timmy is the same age as Kobe but we never hear about how old Kobe is.

Kobe is 34, Timmy is 37. That 3 year difference in basketball (and life) is significant.


There's plenty of talk about Kobe's age.

Anyway the three years age difference isn't really relevant. Kobe has about 4,000 more NBA minutes and about 80 more games, so his body has about the same years of wear when TD's college career is taken into account.

I read a pre-season piece on the top 5 PF's in the league and Tim Duncan didn't even make the cut. He's always been overlooked, even in this post season when he was beating Dwight Howard (ten years younger) downcourt regularly. He's the best PF ever by a lot, and if he wins another title is hands down the best player of his generation.
 
2013-05-28 01:40:00 PM  

Willas Tyrell: There's plenty of talk about Kobe's age.


Part of why Spurs fans are so annoying - they ignore the entire world and pretend like everyone's against them. No, it's just that no one likes you and your sanctimonious horsesh*t, Spurs fans. You were ahead of the curve in flopping, you got gifted a Finals appearance by the NBA (yet you still whine about how the NBA screws you over), you had tons of sh*t-eating dirty players who attempted to injure people...and you want to talk about how your team does it "the right way."

/Duncan is already the best player of his generation, and no one except Lakers fans really disputes that.
 
2013-05-28 01:51:01 PM  
Willas Tyrell:
. Kobe has about 4,000 more NBA minutes and about 80 more games, so his body has about the same years of wear when TD's college career is taken into account.


THREADJACK (I care not for the previous argument and it's details):

It is borderline silly to suggest that someone's "college career" equates year over year with the NBA.

If you're lucky you play 38 games, in the NBA you play 82.

The level of competition and threfore bodily wear and tear doesn;t compare as most of the worst teams in NBA history could beat the best NCAA Men's. I am sure we could debate a few special teams on either side. In prinicipal though, the NCAA's best could not beat the NBA's worst.

Not the same. Not even close.
 
2013-05-28 02:29:08 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Willas Tyrell:
. Kobe has about 4,000 more NBA minutes and about 80 more games, so his body has about the same years of wear when TD's college career is taken into account.


THREADJACK (I care not for the previous argument and it's details):

It is borderline silly to suggest that someone's "college career" equates year over year with the NBA.

If you're lucky you play 38 games, in the NBA you play 82.

The level of competition and threfore bodily wear and tear doesn;t compare as most of the worst teams in NBA history could beat the best NCAA Men's. I am sure we could debate a few special teams on either side. In prinicipal though, the NCAA's best could not beat the NBA's worst.

Not the same. Not even close.


I wholly support this threadjack.

It's not a "year over year" comparison. Duncan has four years of college play and Kobe has zero. In those four years Duncan played 128 games and just under 4500 minutes.

Obviously the talent level is vastly different and if you want to argue that four years of D1 play has no impact on his mileage, be my guest. Given that this is a pretty unquantifiable issue  I am comfortable stating that Duncan's 4492 college minutes accumulated over four years more or less equals Kobe's extra pro season (as pros Kobe has played 59 more games and 3943 more minutes than Duncan) in terms of long term wear and tear on his body.

/That said Duncan doesn't depend on quickness in the same way Kobe does. The loss of lateral movement speed that tends to come with age impacts a slasher like Kobe more than it would a 6-11 post player.
 
2013-05-28 02:53:23 PM  
Kobe's NBA stats

Duncan's NBA stats

Kobe is playing in the NBA at 18 years old. Duncan is playing at age 21.

"3 years of college B-Ball does NOT = 3 years of NBA B Ball" is my point. It's not even close.

I know duncan put in plenty of time each year, I do. I am suggesting that compartively, if you look between the ages of 18-20, Kobe has 3 years of NBA wear and tear and Duncan had college wear and tear. THose are incomparable to me. College does not negate Kobe.
 
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