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(NBA)   San Antonio can finish the Western Conference finals by beating Memphis tonight, surprising people who didn't realize that the Heat/Pacers series isn't the NBA Finals. Game 4 in Memphis, 9PM ET   (nba.com ) divider line
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2013-05-27 11:19:17 PM  
Was really hoping for some Dajuan blair and Tmac playing time
 
2013-05-27 11:19:51 PM  

TheJoe03: mrjared: So, if the Spurs get it done...can we start talking about the all-time greatness of Tim Duncan? Or is he still too boring...

So is him being considered a top 2 PF (if not best ever) of all time not enough for you?


That is probably where I would put him as well...I'm just wondering though, considered by whom? The only players I hear talk about are Kobe, LeBron, and Durrant. The fact that a player of this caliber is on the cusp of competing for his 5th championship - we should be hearing Jordan level comparisons. Maybe they are out there and I just haven't heard it.
 
2013-05-27 11:20:56 PM  

WillofJ2: Unfreakable: WillofJ2: if you are an amphibious player like Mike Conley, I just wonder if there is even a millisecond of delay in the brain of which hand to shoot with

Probably whichever hand is above the water

You obviously don't use the same dictionary as charles shackleford


Actually, I chalked it up as an autocorrect
 
2013-05-27 11:23:17 PM  

mrjared: I'm just wondering though, considered by whom? The only players I hear talk about are Kobe, LeBron, and Durrant.


Well none of those guys are PFs, and it's always silly to compare positions. Jordan and LeBron only works because Jordan could play the 3 and they are both the best all around players in the league has ever seen (well them, Oscar Robertson, and Magic Johnson). Duncan is best compared to the big men in the league and he's top 5 if that's the comparison. I say this as a Mavs fan that has no desire to give him credit. Oh and by whom? I'd say by anyone that actually loves the game of hoops. His so-called boring style of play prevents him from getting hype but the true fans know his greatness.
 
2013-05-27 11:25:23 PM  
You are right though, his style of play prevents him from being compared to guys like Jordan. That said, how many power forwards ever get that much hype? Maybe Barkley and Rodman, perhaps Dirk, but everyone knows Duncan is better than those guys.
 
2013-05-27 11:26:47 PM  

Unfreakable: WillofJ2: Unfreakable: WillofJ2: if you are an amphibious player like Mike Conley, I just wonder if there is even a millisecond of delay in the brain of which hand to shoot with

Probably whichever hand is above the water

You obviously don't use the same dictionary as charles shackleford

Actually, I chalked it up as an autocorrect


One of my favorite quotes of all time, didnt know who the guy was ran into him in a bar and he was drunk high and/or crazy someone told me to look him up and spent the rest of the night laughing at while not looking directly at him, really big guy
 
2013-05-27 11:26:50 PM  

mrjared: TheJoe03: mrjared: So, if the Spurs get it done...can we start talking about the all-time greatness of Tim Duncan? Or is he still too boring...

So is him being considered a top 2 PF (if not best ever) of all time not enough for you?

That is probably where I would put him as well...I'm just wondering though, considered by whom? The only players I hear talk about are Kobe, LeBron, and Durrant. The fact that a player of this caliber is on the cusp of competing for his 5th championship - we should be hearing Jordan level comparisons. Maybe they are out there and I just haven't heard it.


It's why I mentioned SG earlier. He has Duncan at 7 as the best PF of all time and ahead of Kobe. He's behind Wilt, Larry, Magic, Karrem, Russell, and Jordan. One more title might put him beyond Wilt, but damn if that isn't some great company if he can't get higher. Kobe needs probably 2 titles to pass him, if not, the only one playing right now on pace to get near him is LBJ who would take a hit if he loses to past his prime Duncan (i.e. LBJ would need like 7 titles to get over the Cleveland fails and 2 finals fails with a superteam)
 
2013-05-27 11:27:26 PM  

TheJoe03: mrjared: I'm just wondering though, considered by whom? The only players I hear talk about are Kobe, LeBron, and Durrant.

Well none of those guys are PFs, and it's always silly to compare positions. Jordan and LeBron only works because Jordan could play the 3 and they are both the best all around players in the league has ever seen (well them, Oscar Robertson, and Magic Johnson). Duncan is best compared to the big men in the league and he's top 5 if that's the comparison. I say this as a Mavs fan that has no desire to give him credit. Oh and by whom? I'd say by anyone that actually loves the game of hoops. His so-called boring style of play prevents him from getting hype but the true fans know his greatness.


Plus he's not in one of the big-media cities, NYC,LA, Chicago, etc.
 
2013-05-27 11:28:00 PM  
Parker probably just had to piss
 
2013-05-27 11:29:35 PM  
Wow, of anyone on the Grizzlies, Bayless is NOT the one to biatch about on defense in this game. Holy shiat. That coach was out of line.
 
2013-05-27 11:30:45 PM  
the heck is going on with all the ball kicking
 
2013-05-27 11:30:46 PM  
Memphis is clearly at least a year away from being a true threat, too many silly mistakes.
 
2013-05-27 11:31:15 PM  
Duncan isn't considered as well as he should be (and he's one of the best players of all time, hands down) because of a number of reasons.  He has never been a tremendous scorer, he (and his team) shuns the spotlight.  He has actively relinquished being 'the man' to his point guard.  His play is very much below the rim and is pretty cerebral, or at least too much so, for most viewers.  For large part his team was known for wickedly good defense instead of offense, although that is no longer the case.  ESPN hates him.  David Stern especially hates his franchise.
 
2013-05-27 11:31:39 PM  
I remember liking tony allen as a player when he was with boston, pretty sure he really is annoying now
 
2013-05-27 11:32:20 PM  

TheJoe03: Memphis is clearly at least a year away from being a true threat, too many silly mistakes.


They badly - badly, badly, badly - need perimeter shooters.
 
2013-05-27 11:32:36 PM  
Samsung commercials are becoming what i hated about iphone commercials
 
2013-05-27 11:33:43 PM  

SmackLT: mrjared: So, if the Spurs get it done...can we start talking about the all-time greatness of Tim Duncan? Or is he still too boring...

I don't think there's anybody that says he isn't any good. He's measured, and precise, and fundamentally sound. But watchable? Oh, hahaha no


The other night when the question was asked by Lionel Hollins, "How is the oldest guy on the court beating us back down court to score?", the only answer I could come up with was: The Big Fundamental.

/Exciting to watch? no
//A winner? Oh hells yea
 
2013-05-27 11:34:44 PM  
really wish duncan would drive when they leave him open at the perimeter or at least step in
 
2013-05-27 11:35:27 PM  
bad call and appropriate duncan face
 
2013-05-27 11:35:41 PM  

karmaceutical: the heck is going on with all the ball kicking


Maybe with all the flopping, the players got confused about the sport.
 
2013-05-27 11:35:47 PM  

WillofJ2: really wish duncan would drive when they leave him open at the perimeter or at least step in


Yeah, these speculative jumpers won't finish this out.
 
2013-05-27 11:36:11 PM  
I smell comeback.
 
2013-05-27 11:36:35 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Duncan isn't considered as well as he should be (and he's one of the best players of all time, hands down) because of a number of reasons.  He has never been a tremendous scorer, he (and his team) shuns the spotlight.  He has actively relinquished being 'the man' to his point guard.  His play is very much below the rim and is pretty cerebral, or at least too much so, for most viewers.  For large part his team was known for wickedly good defense instead of offense, although that is no longer the case.  ESPN hates him.  David Stern especially hates his franchise.


You can't talk about Stern hating on a franchise unless you mention the city of Seattle. Seriously.

/butthurt Seattleite
 
2013-05-27 11:37:39 PM  
again, no one defending the rim...
 
2013-05-27 11:38:26 PM  
spurs under popo always seem to let teams comeback on them for as long as i can remember
 
2013-05-27 11:38:47 PM  

my lip balm addiction: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Duncan isn't considered as well as he should be (and he's one of the best players of all time, hands down) because of a number of reasons.  He has never been a tremendous scorer, he (and his team) shuns the spotlight.  He has actively relinquished being 'the man' to his point guard.  His play is very much below the rim and is pretty cerebral, or at least too much so, for most viewers.  For large part his team was known for wickedly good defense instead of offense, although that is no longer the case.  ESPN hates him.  David Stern especially hates his franchise.

You can't talk about Stern hating on a franchise unless you mention the city of Seattle. Seriously.

/butthurt Seattleite


David Stern sucks in so many different ways.  Don't get me started.
 
2013-05-27 11:40:04 PM  

my lip balm addiction: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Duncan isn't considered as well as he should be (and he's one of the best players of all time, hands down) because of a number of reasons.  He has never been a tremendous scorer, he (and his team) shuns the spotlight.  He has actively relinquished being 'the man' to his point guard.  His play is very much below the rim and is pretty cerebral, or at least too much so, for most viewers.  For large part his team was known for wickedly good defense instead of offense, although that is no longer the case.  ESPN hates him.  David Stern especially hates his franchise.

You can't talk about Stern hating on a franchise unless you mention the city of Seattle. Seriously.

/butthurt Seattleite


What did you think about the odd draft picks for years, I always thought with allen and barry that should have had better teams but all those unproven big guys they kept taking I thought  they were destined for oden
 
2013-05-27 11:40:56 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: my lip balm addiction: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Duncan isn't considered as well as he should be (and he's one of the best players of all time, hands down) because of a number of reasons.  He has never been a tremendous scorer, he (and his team) shuns the spotlight.  He has actively relinquished being 'the man' to his point guard.  His play is very much below the rim and is pretty cerebral, or at least too much so, for most viewers.  For large part his team was known for wickedly good defense instead of offense, although that is no longer the case.  ESPN hates him.  David Stern especially hates his franchise.

You can't talk about Stern hating on a franchise unless you mention the city of Seattle. Seriously.

/butthurt Seattleite

David Stern sucks in so many different ways.  Don't get me started.


Oh please, start. I could listen to someone rip on that douchebag asshole for hours.
 
2013-05-27 11:40:59 PM  

WillofJ2: spurs under popo always seem to let teams comeback on them for as long as i can remember


Maybe that's his genius and we've never seen it. Let teams come all the way back so they aren't ask hungry and so they use up all their energy and tire out over the series.
 
2013-05-27 11:41:23 PM  
Well that's all she wrote. I expected a lot more out of Memphis (we all did) but much respect to SA, they did it again.
 
2013-05-27 11:42:24 PM  
my lip balm addiction:  Oh please, start. I could listen to someone rip on that douchebag asshole for hours.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-27 11:42:29 PM  

TheJoe03: Memphis is clearly at least a year away from being a true threat, too many silly mistakes.


That's what they say about the griz every year ever since they started making the playoffs. They are going to need some off-season moves as well as moving Tayshaun Prince. 

Frankly, I think Memphis has peaked. The west should be OKC again once Westbrook comes back but they will make it interesting.
 
2013-05-27 11:42:59 PM  
Spurs to the Finals
 
2013-05-27 11:43:32 PM  

WillofJ2: my lip balm addiction: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Duncan isn't considered as well as he should be (and he's one of the best players of all time, hands down) because of a number of reasons.  He has never been a tremendous scorer, he (and his team) shuns the spotlight.  He has actively relinquished being 'the man' to his point guard.  His play is very much below the rim and is pretty cerebral, or at least too much so, for most viewers.  For large part his team was known for wickedly good defense instead of offense, although that is no longer the case.  ESPN hates him.  David Stern especially hates his franchise.

You can't talk about Stern hating on a franchise unless you mention the city of Seattle. Seriously.

/butthurt Seattleite

What did you think about the odd draft picks for years, I always thought with allen and barry that should have had better teams but all those unproven big guys they kept taking I thought  they were destined for oden


I thought they made some horrendous decisions but getting Durant and then having the franchise stolen away was just a huge kick in the balls. The only reason no one went that year was because of farking Clay Bennett.

Tell you one thing - I never drink farking Starbucks coffee.
 
2013-05-27 11:43:46 PM  

TheJoe03: Well that's all she wrote. I expected a lot more out of Memphis (we all did) but much respect to SA, they did it again.


They kind of lucked into the WCFs, with a Clippers team in disarray and Westbrook going down.  But they have a lot to look forward to.  They have an absolutely atrocious offense on the perimeter that should be addressed, but the foundation is there.
 
2013-05-27 11:44:39 PM  
Ok Spurs, let this be the last ride and try to go 5 for 5.

dimemag.com

waits by the phone
 
2013-05-27 11:44:44 PM  
I dont think a single ESPN talking head picked the spurs let alone a sweep
 
2013-05-27 11:45:40 PM  
All done, nice knowin' ya, Memphis.
 
2013-05-27 11:47:21 PM  
http://www.nba.com/live1/  post game interviews, always fun
 
2013-05-27 11:47:26 PM  
It's an odd year - San Antonio only wins championships in odd years!
 
2013-05-27 11:48:15 PM  
And so the "LeBron's revenge against the Spurs' 07 Finals" narrative begins.
 
2013-05-27 11:49:04 PM  

Fallout Boy: And so the "LeBron's revenge against the Spurs' 07 Finals" narrative begins.


Where's your Boobie Gibson now?

Seriously, where's he now?
 
2013-05-27 11:49:46 PM  
memphis shot twice as many free throws, refs tried
 
2013-05-27 11:50:48 PM  
Odd, since the first title was in 99, Duncan could win a title in 3 different decades. Has any major player done that before?
 
2013-05-27 11:51:15 PM  

Fallout Boy: And so the "LeBron's revenge against the Spurs' 07 Finals" narrative begins.


I honestly think the spurs would have beaten them last year, really bad officiating durant and a man with a beard kept that from happening
 
2013-05-27 11:54:24 PM  

WillofJ2: Fallout Boy: And so the "LeBron's revenge against the Spurs' 07 Finals" narrative begins.


The George Hill revenge against the spurs for not paying him and trading him revenge thing just not as exciting
 
2013-05-27 11:56:39 PM  

WillofJ2: I dont think a single ESPN talking head picked the spurs let alone a sweep


Most of the writers had Spurs in 7.  No one had fewer than 6 games, though.

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/matchup/_/teams/spurs-grizzlies
 
2013-05-28 12:02:54 AM  
Hope this heat series goes 7
 
2013-05-28 12:09:17 AM  
So why do the talking heads on ESPN keep asking how long Lionel Hollins will still be coaching Memphis? Why would they fire him? He has done that team good (despite shoving Bayless around tonight).
 
2013-05-28 12:13:00 AM  
pbs.twimg.com
 
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