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(Globe and Mail)   The plot thickens as staffer in Mayor McCrack's office interviewed as part of a homicide investigation related to video   (theglobeandmail.com) divider line 44
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2013-05-27 08:15:38 AM  
On the radio show yesterday McCrack sounded VERY sure there is no video.  Like creepy sure, complete with nervous laugh.
 
2013-05-27 08:44:57 AM  
Blob Ford sat on the guy with the video? Man, imagine suffocating between THOSE glazed hams. Poor bastard.
 
2013-05-27 10:45:27 AM  
Huh, so I'm reading his brother was a hashish dealer at some point in the past?
 
2013-05-27 10:45:42 AM  
This shiat show gets more and more entertaining. Yesterday on their radio show they called the media 'maggots'. Stay classy Ford Nation.
 
2013-05-27 10:48:51 AM  

MFAWG: Huh, so I'm reading his brother was a hashish dealer at some point in the past?


Plus his other brother was involved in a kidnapping, and his sister has ties to the KKK and other white supremacists.
 
2013-05-27 10:49:25 AM  
I wonder how Greater Toronto feels about having a mayor that smokes crack.
 
2013-05-27 10:53:12 AM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: I wonder how Greater Toronto feels about having a mayor that smokes crack.


A poll just came out.  36% would vote for him again.  Same as just before the scandal started.  Basically: surburbanites don't care what the mayor does, as long as he doesn't tax them for public transit like the other candidates would.
 
2013-05-27 10:53:54 AM  

Glenford: MFAWG: Huh, so I'm reading his brother was a hashish dealer at some point in the past?

Plus his other brother was involved in a kidnapping, and his sister has ties to the KKK and other white supremacists.


Citation needed.  Like, really needed, this is hella interesting.
 
2013-05-27 10:56:21 AM  

Lexx: Glenford: MFAWG: Huh, so I'm reading his brother was a hashish dealer at some point in the past?

Plus his other brother was involved in a kidnapping, and his sister has ties to the KKK and other white supremacists.

Citation needed.  Like, really needed, this is hella interesting.


Globe and Mail
 
2013-05-27 10:58:31 AM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: I wonder how Greater Toronto feels about having a mayor that smokes crack.


Well here in DC It just means you get moved to a rather powerful person on the city council and still get asked to run for mayor.
 
2013-05-27 11:06:19 AM  

Lexx: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: I wonder how Greater Toronto feels about having a mayor that smokes crack.

A poll just came out.  36% would vote for him again.  Same as just before the scandal started.  Basically: surburbanites don't care what the mayor does, as long as he doesn't tax them for public transit like the other candidates would.


Like suburban people everywhere. Cuz public transit opens the suburbs to "urban" people.

/ I often ride the train to work from the city to a very well-off suburb
// It's overrun with ethnic people...
/// ...mowing the lawns
 
2013-05-27 11:08:06 AM  
It's tricky - you got to ask enough for your blackmail video that you can blow Dodge when you get it, but don't ask for so much nobody's willing to cough up. $200k was a little too much, it seems.
 
2013-05-27 11:13:49 AM  

jaytkay: Lexx: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: I wonder how Greater Toronto feels about having a mayor that smokes crack.

A poll just came out.  36% would vote for him again.  Same as just before the scandal started.  Basically: surburbanites don't care what the mayor does, as long as he doesn't tax them for public transit like the other candidates would.

Like suburban people everywhere. Cuz public transit opens the suburbs to "urban" people.

/ I often ride the train to work from the city to a very well-off suburb
// It's overrun with ethnic people...
/// ...mowing the lawns


It's more that people who can easily afford cars will NEVER take transit, and thus could give two shiats about transit riders.
 
2013-05-27 11:21:40 AM  

Carth: Lexx: Glenford: MFAWG: Huh, so I'm reading his brother was a hashish dealer at some point in the past?

Plus his other brother was involved in a kidnapping, and his sister has ties to the KKK and other white supremacists.

Citation needed.  Like, really needed, this is hella interesting.

Globe and Mail


Holy shiat.
 
2013-05-27 11:24:34 AM  

Lexx: It's more that people who can easily afford cars will NEVER take transit, and thus could give two shiats about transit riders.


This is true. I live in a town that's 26 miles from the one where I work, over a mountain pass. We don't have much in the way of transit, so I tried to set up a carpool with my fellow commuters. When gas was around $4/gallon, they finally started to get interested. When the price went back down, they got disinterested just as fast.

Turns out that people who make good money give less than a shiat about carpooling. It's inconvenient.
 
2013-05-27 11:44:34 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: Lexx: It's more that people who can easily afford cars will NEVER take transit, and thus could give two shiats about transit riders.

This is true. I live in a town that's 26 miles from the one where I work, over a mountain pass. We don't have much in the way of transit, so I tried to set up a carpool with my fellow commuters. When gas was around $4/gallon, they finally started to get interested. When the price went back down, they got disinterested just as fast.

Turns out that people who make good money give less than a shiat about carpooling. It's inconvenient.


Thing is, Toronto has a lot of transit commuters, but our main arteries are at capacity. The suburbs want to use the transit to get downtown, but they don't want to pay for a capacity upgrade or a good secondary route. And because the property values are so high, it's prohibitively expensive to buy land for new stations in most places where we need it. Combine that with a stupidly-underfunded system (80% of our revenue or such is through the farebox or so) and Rob Ford gets the suburbanites who want to keep their mini McMansions on low property taxes, fark everyone else. And the left inevitably gets split because people vote their conscience, not strategically and there's usually more than one left candidate.
 
2013-05-27 11:44:41 AM  

Lexx: jaytkay: Lexx: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: I wonder how Greater Toronto feels about having a mayor that smokes crack.

A poll just came out.  36% would vote for him again.  Same as just before the scandal started.  Basically: surburbanites don't care what the mayor does, as long as he doesn't tax them for public transit like the other candidates would.

Like suburban people everywhere. Cuz public transit opens the suburbs to "urban" people.

/ I often ride the train to work from the city to a very well-off suburb
// It's overrun with ethnic people...
/// ...mowing the lawns

It's more that people who can easily afford cars will NEVER take transit, and thus could give two shiats about transit riders.


People who only drive would still benefit from more transit. A bus carries as many people as 30-40 cars at rush hour. Fewer cars on the road means you get where you're going faster, even if you never actually use the transit system.
 
2013-05-27 11:46:42 AM  
I only realized he was the mayor *after* the Photoshop thread of him yesterday. Which makes the thread somewhat funnier.
 
2013-05-27 11:47:29 AM  

CokeBear: Lexx: jaytkay: Lexx: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: I wonder how Greater Toronto feels about having a mayor that smokes crack.

A poll just came out.  36% would vote for him again.  Same as just before the scandal started.  Basically: surburbanites don't care what the mayor does, as long as he doesn't tax them for public transit like the other candidates would.

Like suburban people everywhere. Cuz public transit opens the suburbs to "urban" people.

/ I often ride the train to work from the city to a very well-off suburb
// It's overrun with ethnic people...
/// ...mowing the lawns

It's more that people who can easily afford cars will NEVER take transit, and thus could give two shiats about transit riders.

People who only drive would still benefit from more transit. A bus carries as many people as 30-40 cars at rush hour. Fewer cars on the road means you get where you're going faster, even if you never actually use the transit system.


Only theoretically.  Historically, say in LA, they've found that improved transit doesn't help with personal vehicle commute times.  If a transit line took 5 years to build, enough extra car traffic would accumulate that even WITH the offset in commuters that the transit provides, drivers still see more people on the road / longer commutes.  Basically, transit just helps prevent things from getting worse as quickly as they otherwise would have.
 
2013-05-27 12:04:07 PM  
From TFH: The plot thickens as staffer in Mayor McCrack's office interviewed as part of a homicide investigation related to video

What, did somebody kill a radio star?

/ DNRTFA
 
2013-05-27 12:13:49 PM  

Lexx: Historically, say in LA, they've found that improved transit doesn't help with personal vehicle commute times. If a transit line took 5 years to build, enough extra car traffic would accumulate that even WITH the offset in commuters that the transit provides, drivers still see more people on the road / longer commutes.


That doesn't follow.  If there is an offset in commuters due to transit, that's still an improvement in personal vehicle commute times compared to what the times would be otherwise.  Your example just means that they should have been building more lines, or higher capacity lines.
 
2013-05-27 01:04:16 PM  
FTFA: "They went on to say that the video originally belonged to an individual who may have been killed for its potentially valuable contents, according to a source."

I was afraid this would happen.  Right after CNN accidentlyed the whole thing the owner of that video should have been put up in a safe house outside the GTA.
 
2013-05-27 01:08:16 PM  

Glenford: This shiat show gets more and more entertaining. Yesterday on their radio show they called the media 'maggots'. Stay classy Ford Nation.


Actually not so inapt. Maggots, much like a properly functioning free press can sterilize suppurating sores and infections.
 
2013-05-27 01:25:12 PM  

SpaceButler: Lexx: Historically, say in LA, they've found that improved transit doesn't help with personal vehicle commute times. If a transit line took 5 years to build, enough extra car traffic would accumulate that even WITH the offset in commuters that the transit provides, drivers still see more people on the road / longer commutes.

That doesn't follow.  If there is an offset in commuters due to transit, that's still an improvement in personal vehicle commute times compared to what the times would be otherwise.  Your example just means that they should have been building more lines, or higher capacity lines.


You're not following.  My point was, because transit systems take some time to be constructed, overall the commuter won't see any improvement in their driving times, as the increase in population and traffic in their cities more than covers the people who switch from driving to mass transit, once it becomes available.  Basically, "it's not going to IMPROVE your commute times".  Stopping something from getting worse, and actively making it better, are very different things, psychologically.
 
2013-05-27 01:52:39 PM  

Lexx: surburbanites don't care what the mayor does


I detest that I live in Etobicoke and get lumped in with this greasy shiatbag's supporters.

This article is so weird.  It's trying to say something without trying to say anything.  It's very carefully worded, like I'm certain a few lawyers reviewed this before it went to print.
 
2013-05-27 02:01:32 PM  

Lexx: You're not following. My point was, because transit systems take some time to be constructed, overall the commuter won't see any improvement in their driving times, as the increase in population and traffic in their cities more than covers the people who switch from driving to mass transit, once it becomes available. Basically, "it's not going to IMPROVE your commute times". Stopping something from getting worse, and actively making it better, are very different things, psychologically.


What I understood you to be saying was that the increase in transit capacity/availability/convenience after the five-year project was insufficient to offset the increase in the city's total commuter population during those five years.  That does not mean it's impossible for new transit projects to improve commute times as a general principle, as you seem to be expressing it.  They might have been able to effect an actual reduction in traffic issues if they had done more projects covering more of the city, or built the line to have more capacity, as two possibilities (depending on the precise reasons why that particular project proved insufficient).
 
2013-05-27 02:36:52 PM  

apoptotic: Carth: Lexx: Glenford: MFAWG: Huh, so I'm reading his brother was a hashish dealer at some point in the past?

Plus his other brother was involved in a kidnapping, and his sister has ties to the KKK and other white supremacists.

Citation needed.  Like, really needed, this is hella interesting.

Globe and Mail

Holy shiat.


Holy shiat.
 
2013-05-27 02:40:13 PM  
What a surprise. Mayor Ford held a press conference to say that the video no longer exists on the same day that news organizations started reportinh that the guy who was trying to sell the video had gone missing.

It doesn't take a super-genius to figure out that Ford is going to spend a long time in prison.
 
2013-05-27 02:42:49 PM  

Lexx: It's more that people who can easily afford cars will NEVER take transit, and thus could give two shiats about transit riders.


Funny, that's not what the stats show every time gas prices go up.  And I don't know about Toronto, but around here, there are tons of people who have cars but still prefer to take public transit into the city as congestion is so bad.
 
2013-05-27 02:48:51 PM  
The Crackstarter stagnated yesterday, but there was a massive surge today, and they're only about $5500 away from the goal, as of right now.
 
2013-05-27 03:10:33 PM  
Mayor Ford's press secretaries just quit.  Reports say they resigned on principle.

Wow.  It's like watching a slow, cracked out trainwreck in motion.
 
2013-05-27 03:16:00 PM  

Lexx: Mayor Ford's press secretaries just quit.  Reports say they resigned on principle.

Wow.  It's like watching a slow, cracked out trainwreck in motion.


And he just hired one of the Don Bosco football players today.

Crackstarter now only $3200 away.  Someone dropped a grand into it about 20 minutes ago.
 
2013-05-27 03:19:18 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: The Crackstarter stagnated yesterday, but there was a massive surge today, and they're only about $5500 away from the goal, as of right now.


Since the guy who was trying to sell the video has gone missing, the mayor has a new-found certainty that the video no longer exists, and the Toronto police have opened a homicide investigation related to the video, I'm going to tactfully suggest that the crackstarter is a day late and a dollar short.
 
2013-05-27 03:33:27 PM  

The Larch: GavinTheAlmighty: The Crackstarter stagnated yesterday, but there was a massive surge today, and they're only about $5500 away from the goal, as of right now.

Since the guy who was trying to sell the video has gone missing, the mayor has a new-found certainty that the video no longer exists, and the Toronto police have opened a homicide investigation related to the video, I'm going to tactfully suggest that the crackstarter is a day late and a dollar short.


The investigation could be in relation to Antoine Smith, the bird flipping dude from the photo. IT may or may not have anything to do with Ford.
 
2013-05-27 03:59:17 PM  
Is it just me, or does Mayor McCrack look like George Dzundza?
 
2013-05-27 04:04:56 PM  

The Larch: Since the guy who was trying to sell the video has gone missing, the mayor has a new-found certainty that the video no longer exists, and the Toronto police have opened a homicide investigation related to the video, I'm going to tactfully suggest that the crackstarter is a day late and a dollar short.


Robyn Doolittle claims there are multiple copies of the video in circulation.  Crackstarter just reached its goal, so I guess now we wait and see who has a copy.
 
2013-05-27 04:25:17 PM  
how does one pronounce Eboticoke?
 
2013-05-27 04:33:09 PM  

alcoda: how does one pronounce Eboticoke?


E-toe-be-coe
 
2013-05-27 04:50:42 PM  

bixpchiphead: alcoda: how does one pronounce Eboticoke?

E-toe-be-coe


Thanks. its been driving me nuts since this whole thing started.
 
2013-05-27 06:56:25 PM  
It is interesting that the mayor went from carefully hedged statements to "there is no video".  I don't think that the mayor ordered anyone killed or anything like that, but the transformation from timid weaselly denials ("haven't seen or does not exist", "I do not use crack cocaine nor am I an addict") to bold denials of the existence of the video suggests that he at least has knowledge of what happened to the guy who did have a copy of the video.

I wonder if the report that other copies exist will cause the mayor to go back to timid and very specifically worded denials.
 
2013-05-27 08:05:40 PM  

Lexx: It's more that people who can easily afford cars will NEVER take transit, and thus could give two shiats about transit riders.


And yet the traffic in Toronto continues to get progressively worse and they can't figure out why.
 
2013-05-27 08:24:18 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Lexx: It's more that people who can easily afford cars will NEVER take transit, and thus could give two shiats about transit riders.

And yet the traffic in Toronto continues to get progressively worse and they can't figure out why.


I gave up long ago.  Where the 401 crosses the DVP/404?  Insanity.

My wife and I live just north of the city, she works in Markham, and I generally work downtown.  We're a one car family.  I'd rather lose 10 mins riding the subway than sit in traffic being part of a problem that was unreasonably bad 10 years ago.  Now if only the TTC could receive the kind of funding that most transit systems take for granted.
 
2013-05-28 08:50:57 AM  

Mercutio74: I gave up long ago. Where the 401 crosses the DVP/404? Insanity.


Part of the problem is the litany of monumentally stupid decisions they made regarding road expansion as well.  401 collectors westbound to 404?  It's a single lane offramp.  The two busiest highways in Canada, and there's a single lane that allows you access.  It's ridiculous.
 
2013-05-28 10:10:06 AM  

bixpchiphead: alcoda: how does one pronounce Eboticoke?

E-toe-be-coe


But how do you pronounce "Nanticoke"?  (a community on the north shore of Lake Erie about 80 km from Etobicoke)
 
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