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(BusinessWeek)   1953 Ferrari Berlinetta that competed at Le Mans sells for $11.8 million. Would have gone for more but the owner refused to show the CARFAX   (businessweek.com) divider line 19
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2013-05-27 09:27:47 AM
It's a good looking car.
 
2013-05-27 09:42:47 AM
I'll give you $15,000 for it in cash now.

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2013-05-27 09:55:18 AM
3:1 odds Ralph Lauren bought that car.
 
2013-05-27 10:38:48 AM
Chris Evans laughs at the low pricetag.
 
2013-05-27 12:14:24 PM
With all of the attempts at making a modern "cool car," it's a shame that nobody can manage to make something with 1950s Italian style but modern hardware. Take that body design, enlarge it a bit to allow for safer side impacts, put a current-design engine in it, and there ya go.

Or a "new" Jaguar E...
 
2013-05-27 01:13:12 PM
What's the mileage?

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2013-05-27 01:53:51 PM

cirby: With all of the attempts at making a modern "cool car," it's a shame that nobody can manage to make something with 1950s Italian style but modern hardware. Take that body design, enlarge it a bit to allow for safer side impacts, put a current-design engine in it, and there ya go.

Or a "new" Jaguar E...


This comes very close to being a new E type

The problem is that anything styled like that would be considered far too girly and small by today's standards and if you increase the size you end up with the current crop of bloated cars. The sort of people who can afford to buy this kind of style want to be able to get their gold clubs in the boot.

Just look at the derision the Mazda MX5 gets by so called "car" people. Best handling convertible on sale today but gets dismissed or insulted by people who claim to know better.
 
2013-05-27 02:23:43 PM

Norfolking Chance: cirby: With all of the attempts at making a modern "cool car," it's a shame that nobody can manage to make something with 1950s Italian style but modern hardware. Take that body design, enlarge it a bit to allow for safer side impacts, put a current-design engine in it, and there ya go.

Or a "new" Jaguar E...

This comes very close to being a new E type

The problem is that anything styled like that would be considered far too girly and small by today's standards and if you increase the size you end up with the current crop of bloated cars. The sort of people who can afford to buy this kind of style want to be able to get their gold clubs in the boot.

Just look at the derision the Mazda MX5 gets by so called "car" people. Best handling convertible on sale today but gets dismissed or insulted by people who claim to know better.


As you said, it's the styling of the Miata. Curves create the impression of femininity. The E-type, on the other hand, with the long hood, overcomes that with the impression of power (there has to be a big engine under there, right? And, in fact, there is).

The real reason why there will never be another E-type-looking car is because part of what made it so appealing was its minimalism. Add length, width, and 2000 pounds of safety gear and it's not even remotely viable.
 
2013-05-27 02:28:32 PM

Norfolking Chance: The problem is that anything styled like that would be considered far too girly and small by today's standards and if you increase the size you end up with the current crop of bloated cars. The sort of people who can afford to buy this kind of style want to be able to get their gold clubs in the boot.

Just look at the derision the Mazda MX5 gets by so called "car" people. Best handling convertible on sale today but gets dismissed or insulted by people who claim to know better.


That's pretty much an American phenomenon only. This kind of way of thinking does not really exist in Europe, or in Japan.
 
2013-05-27 03:35:27 PM

cirby: With all of the attempts at making a modern "cool car," it's a shame that nobody can manage to make something with 1950s Italian style but modern hardware. Take that body design, enlarge it a bit to allow for safer side impacts, put a current-design engine in it, and there ya go.

Or a "new" Jaguar E...


As far as modern E-types are concerned; Eagle, Growler, and Lyonheart have all produced versions. Granted, it might be cheaper to buy a classic E-Type than one of these modern attempts, the Growler is XKR based. There are also companies that will put modern engines, brakes, suspension, etc. in your classic car.
 
2013-05-27 04:52:11 PM

padraig: Norfolking Chance: The problem is that anything styled like that would be considered far too girly and small by today's standards and if you increase the size you end up with the current crop of bloated cars. The sort of people who can afford to buy this kind of style want to be able to get their gold clubs in the boot.

Just look at the derision the Mazda MX5 gets by so called "car" people. Best handling convertible on sale today but gets dismissed or insulted by people who claim to know better.

That's pretty much an American phenomenon only. This kind of way of thinking does not really exist in Europe, or in Japan.


I'm an American, and I farking LOVE the Miata.  I wish I could afford one.  Perfect balance between front and back end, aesthetically speaking.  I've seen some BMW convertibles, and their front end is so goddamn long that all I can think of is the Ambiguously Gay Duo.  Appropriate, since it seems cars like that are penis replacements.  I don't like show-off cars.  The Miata is unassuming, but beautiful.  I have no idea of the build quality, since I can't afford one, there's no point in test driving it, but I hope it is a lot of fun to drive.  Sure looks like it.
 
2013-05-27 05:31:09 PM

Norfolking Chance: Just look at the derision the Mazda MX5 gets by so called "car" people


I find that people who belittle the Miata often aren't "car" people at all, and generally don't know what they're talking about.

Most car guys are pretty well aware of what a great little car the Miata really is.

That said, I remember seeing the F-Type Concept at Frankfurt in '99.  I'm glad it's finally made it into production, although I wish they'd stayed faithful to the concept's mini-E-Type aesthetics.

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2013-05-27 05:58:01 PM
Polish Hussar:
As far as modern E-types are concerned; Eagle, Growler, and Lyonheart have all produced versions. Granted, it might be cheaper to buy a classic E-Type than one of these modern attempts, the Growler is XKR based. There are also companies that will put modern engines, brakes, suspension, etc. in your classic car.

The problem is that you end up paying supercar-type prices for those - a remanufactured Jaguar E Eagle starts at about $200,000. Considering inflation, a "new" Jaguar E type with performance equivalent to (or better than) the original should sell for well under $60,000.
 
2013-05-27 07:43:16 PM
The Carfax on a 60 year old Ferrari would be thicker than War and Peace if it tracked all the mechanical issues.
 
2013-05-27 08:24:57 PM

somemoron: padraig: Norfolking Chance: The problem is that anything styled like that would be considered far too girly and small by today's standards and if you increase the size you end up with the current crop of bloated cars. The sort of people who can afford to buy this kind of style want to be able to get their gold clubs in the boot.

Just look at the derision the Mazda MX5 gets by so called "car" people. Best handling convertible on sale today but gets dismissed or insulted by people who claim to know better.

That's pretty much an American phenomenon only. This kind of way of thinking does not really exist in Europe, or in Japan.

I'm an American, and I farking LOVE the Miata.  I wish I could afford one.  Perfect balance between front and back end, aesthetically speaking.  I've seen some BMW convertibles, and their front end is so goddamn long that all I can think of is the Ambiguously Gay Duo.  Appropriate, since it seems cars like that are penis replacements.  I don't like show-off cars.  The Miata is unassuming, but beautiful.  I have no idea of the build quality, since I can't afford one, there's no point in test driving it, but I hope it is a lot of fun to drive.  Sure looks like it.


good used ones are pretty reasonable. i've had my 2000 for a year, put 30k on it in that time, paid 7600.

check out miata.net and miataforum.com
 
2013-05-27 09:08:38 PM
How much for this 1964 Ferrari?

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2013-05-28 03:17:56 AM

Norfolking Chance: This comes very close to being a new E type


Not as long as Tata owns that brand.  The remaining positive British characteristics of that car company went out the window when Ford signed it over.


padraig: That's pretty much an American phenomenon only. This kind of way of thinking does not really exist in Europe, or in Japan.


Unlike Europe or Japan, car design in the United States is based on more power and car per dollar than the austerity-driven designs in Europe and Japan.  In those parts of the world, unlike the US, environmentalists got a stranglehold on car design once austerity was no longer an excuse.   In the US, it took a while before they managed to get Ford to go un-American on their entire company, General Motors to do so partially, and for Chrysler to isolate it to the Fiat brand.  In every case, environmentalists would rather have regular people driving glorified Trabants while they have the sole privilege of driving an overly expensive behemoth that once was for all.

If you want to do donuts with your Miata or slide it across racetrack curves, fine.  Just dont make it farking expensive to have an American-sized and powered vehicle.
 
2013-05-28 08:36:25 AM
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Will need some time alone in his dressing room with his iPad to read this one.
 
2013-05-28 07:26:40 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: It's a good looking car.


But it's still no Batmobile.
 
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