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(Opposing Views)   Georgia man claims his rights were violated when parents complained about him approaching their kids in a parking lot, trying to convert them to Christianity   (opposingviews.com) divider line 246
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2013-05-26 09:27:00 PM
What was really odd was his van with now windows had "Free Candy" on the side of it.
 
2013-05-27 12:14:54 AM
They're taking all the Christian rights away and I'm going to stand for what's right this time.

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/oblig
 
2013-05-27 12:16:23 AM
The real story came out in the last four farking seconds of the video. He didn't have a license to solicit at the venue. Had nothing to do with his "raats" as a "chris-chunn".
 
2013-05-27 12:24:15 AM
The quality of itinerant preachers has really taken a nosedive since John The Baptist's demise.....
 
2013-05-27 12:28:35 AM
Some random guy approaching kids in a parking lot, he's lucky there wasn't more suffering going on.
 
2013-05-27 01:07:56 AM
Banther and his son were handing out religious materials at the annual "1890s Day Jamboree" in Ringgold when a parent filed a police report about a man approaching children in the parking lot.

Bit of an oddly specific decade to be celebrating, there... let's check Wikipedia to see if anything noteworthy occurred..

The 1890s were sometimes referred to as the mauve decade... and also the "Gay Nineties"... In the United States, the 1890s were marked by a severe economic depression sparked by the Panic of 1893..."

Well, it beats 1930's Poland Day, I guess.
 
2013-05-27 01:16:59 AM

Apos: The quality of itinerant preachers has really taken a nosedive since John The Baptist's demise.....


hehe
 
2013-05-27 01:42:09 AM
Christians are full of shiat and their god doesnt exist.

Now that I got that out of the way, imagine if this was someone protesting against the Iraq war during the Bush admin. Many of you would see it differently in that aspect and react much differently.
 
2013-05-27 01:56:12 AM
He's just a cheap prick who didn't want to pay for a permit, yes, but I suspect the event planners may also have found his Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912 beliefs pure heresy.
 
2013-05-27 01:56:37 AM

cman: Christians are full of shiat and their god doesnt exist.

Now that I got that out of the way, imagine if this was someone protesting against the Iraq war during the Bush admin. Many of you would see it differently in that aspect and react much differently.


If someone was harassing 8 year olds on the morality of a war, it would be retarded.

If someone was harassing people at a function without a permit, they should fully expect a visit from Chief Wiggum.

Now, speaking as someone who actually fought in that farking war, do you have any other straw men you'd like me to cover?
 
2013-05-27 01:57:54 AM

cman: Now that I got that out of the way, imagine if this was someone protesting against the Iraq war during the Bush admin. Many of you would see it differently in that aspect and react much differently.


Depends. Would that protest take the form of approaching children and giving them pamphlets about his political viewpoints? Because I don't think that would fly with most people here, regardless of whether they happen to share his politics or not.

Honestly, it's the fact that he was approaching children that makes what he was doing not cool. Not because of the whole creeper aspect (although I'm sure many parents would see it that way) but because in targeting children he's attempting to recruit people into his ministry or church who are highly impressionable and don't have the same rationale or critical thinking skills as adults. There are obvious benefits to indoctrinating individuals to your religion at an early age.

I get approached quite often on the street by evangelicals who stop and ask me questions about my beliefs and ask me to fill stuff out. As much as I find it annoying, I do realize their rights to do so. But the same evangelicals selling their pitch to kids leaving an elementary school isn't the same thing.
 
2013-05-27 02:01:53 AM

Sgt Otter: cman: Christians are full of shiat and their god doesnt exist.

Now that I got that out of the way, imagine if this was someone protesting against the Iraq war during the Bush admin. Many of you would see it differently in that aspect and react much differently.

If someone was harassing 8 year olds on the morality of a war, it would be retarded.

If someone was harassing people at a function without a permit, they should fully expect a visit from Chief Wiggum.

Now, speaking as someone who actually fought in that farking war, do you have any other straw men you'd like me to cover?


As someone who also was deployed to Iraq twice I would like to say that that fact matters not in this discussion.

And yes, harassment of 8 year olds are bad. I am not saying that what he did wasnt wrong. I was attempting to put it in a different perspective for those who may see it differently.
 
2013-05-27 02:14:45 AM

cman: Christians are full of shiat and their god doesnt exist.

Now that I got that out of the way, imagine if this was someone protesting against the Iraq war during the Bush admin. Many of you would see it differently in that aspect and react much differently.


Irrelevant. I think most rational people would take an exception to a strange man accosting their minor children in public, regardless of the purpose.
 
2013-05-27 02:29:21 AM

cman: As someone who also was deployed to Iraq twice


Was that before or after your surgery?
 
2013-05-27 02:30:44 AM

unlikely: cman: As someone who also was deployed to Iraq twice

Was that before or after your surgery?




Que?
 
2013-05-27 02:33:16 AM

RexTalionis: cman: Christians are full of shiat and their god doesnt exist.

Now that I got that out of the way, imagine if this was someone protesting against the Iraq war during the Bush admin. Many of you would see it differently in that aspect and react much differently.

Irrelevant. I think most rational people would take an exception to a strange man accosting their minor children in public, regardless of the purpose.


But the tag told me to warn them!

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2013-05-27 02:35:49 AM
My imaginary deity is superior to your imaginary deity!

Let me tell you of it....
 
2013-05-27 02:35:54 AM
 
2013-05-27 02:36:13 AM
Sounds familiar,


You know them Germans, if you don't join their party they'll come "get ya"
 
2013-05-27 02:37:09 AM

cman: Christians are full of shiat and their god doesnt exist.

Now that I got that out of the way, imagine if this was someone protesting against the Iraq war during the Bush admin. Many of you would see it differently in that aspect and react much differently.


Harassment is harassment regardless of the reason. Your  bbbut Bush argument is invalid.
 
2013-05-27 02:37:54 AM

cman: Christians are full of shiat and their god doesnt exist.

Now that I got that out of the way, imagine if this was someone protesting against the Iraq war during the Bush admin. Many of you would see it differently in that aspect and react much differently.


No, I'd still see it as some creep pestering my kid.
 
2013-05-27 02:45:15 AM
He's very lucky his "rights" were infringed instead of his structural integrity.
 
2013-05-27 02:45:45 AM

cman: unlikely: cman: As someone who also was deployed to Iraq twice

Was that before or after your surgery?

Que?


In a TG thread a while ago you claimed to be post-op TG.
So I'm curious, were your Iraq tours as a male or as a female?
Or did you split them out, do one Male and then the other Female? And if you did it that way, how did it change how people dealt with you?
 
2013-05-27 02:48:21 AM

unlikely: cman: unlikely: cman: As someone who also was deployed to Iraq twice

Was that before or after your surgery?

Que?

In a TG thread a while ago you claimed to be post-op TG.
So I'm curious, were your Iraq tours as a male or as a female?
Or did you split them out, do one Male and then the other Female? And if you did it that way, how did it change how people dealt with you?


LOL

Nah, man, that aint me. It is possible that you could have confused my words from another thread where I was talking about my sister and her transgendered girlfriend. I am for transgender rights (including the right to change one's birth certificate based upon the gender they feel they are) but I am certainly not trans.
 
2013-05-27 02:48:42 AM
In his defense, children are a lot easier to brainwash than adults.
 
2013-05-27 02:50:50 AM
cman:
And yes, harassment of 8 year olds are bad. I am not saying that what he did wasnt wrong. I was attempting to put it in a different perspective for those who may see it differently.

Which is to say, "If the situation was something diametrically different, all of you would react in a way that confirms my pre-existing narrative, therefore I've proven that you're all hypocrites. QED."
 
2013-05-27 02:54:58 AM

gayb: In his defense, children are a lot easier to brainwash than adults.


I don't know. That guy looked like he had enough water sloshing around in his skull to give him a permanent rinse cycle.
 
2013-05-27 02:55:04 AM

cman: Christians are full of shiat and their god doesnt exist.


What about the Muslim god?
 
2013-05-27 02:55:22 AM

cman: Sgt Otter: cman: Christians are full of shiat and their god doesnt exist.

Now that I got that out of the way, imagine if this was someone protesting against the Iraq war during the Bush admin. Many of you would see it differently in that aspect and react much differently.

If someone was harassing 8 year olds on the morality of a war, it would be retarded.

If someone was harassing people at a function without a permit, they should fully expect a visit from Chief Wiggum.

Now, speaking as someone who actually fought in that farking war, do you have any other straw men you'd like me to cover?

As someone who also was deployed to Iraq twice I would like to say that that fact matters not in this discussion.

And yes, harassment of 8 year olds are bad. I am not saying that what he did wasnt wrong. I was attempting to put it in a different perspective for those who may see it differently.


Ah, trying to show how Fark liberals are hypocrites, and both sides are bad.   In you mind.

I gotcha.
 
2013-05-27 02:55:50 AM

Hickory-smoked: Which is to say, "If the situation was something diametrically different, all of you would react in a way that confirms my pre-existing narrative, therefore I've proven that you're all hypocrites. QED."


Just like the water-head's example of the high-school football game.
 
2013-05-27 02:58:57 AM
www.atheist-community.org
 
2013-05-27 02:59:24 AM
Fark you and your auto-play video.
 
2013-05-27 03:01:57 AM
Trying to convert kids huh? I can hear my dad now...

Moische, get in the car!

Herschel, put down that new testament!

Schlomo, stop laughing at the man and let's go!

/Oy, there's all kind of mishegoyim in the world
//My brother's actual names changed to protect the (not so) innocent
 
2013-05-27 03:02:38 AM

cman: It is possible that you could have confused my words from another thread where I was talking about my sister and her transgendered girlfriend.


Yeah, just went and found it.

"Yeah, we have certainly helped the LGB portion, but the T has been left behind, but not for much longer. We are gonna take you assholes on, and we will win. "

I think I was fair in reading that "we" after talking about the T in LGB to mean you'd crossed the gap, as it were.
 
2013-05-27 03:02:47 AM
Um, I think he's right, actually. I think speaking to people in public for his... whatever is constitutionally protected speech and the police have no right to stop him.

As an agnostic, I have no particular interest in supporting his religion, but as an American I certainly support him being able to exercise his rights to it.
 
2013-05-27 03:04:50 AM

Ouze: Um, I think he's right, actually. I think speaking to people in public for his... whatever is constitutionally protected speech and the police have no right to stop him.

As an agnostic, I have no particular interest in supporting his religion, but as an American I certainly support him being able to exercise his rights to it.


What makes you think he was doing this on public grounds?
 
2013-05-27 03:06:19 AM

Ouze: Um, I think he's right, actually. I think speaking to people in public for his... whatever is constitutionally protected speech and the police have no right to stop him.

As an agnostic, I have no particular interest in supporting his religion, but as an American I certainly support him being able to exercise his rights to it.


Approach my kids for whatever reason, you gonna get smacked.
 
2013-05-27 03:07:08 AM

unlikely: cman: It is possible that you could have confused my words from another thread where I was talking about my sister and her transgendered girlfriend.

Yeah, just went and found it.

"Yeah, we have certainly helped the LGB portion, but the T has been left behind, but not for much longer. We are gonna take you assholes on, and we will win. "

I think I was fair in reading that "we" after talking about the T in LGB to mean you'd crossed the gap, as it were.


White people were instrumental in the civil rights movement. I feel that I am on their side although I am not one of them so to speak. When you are involved with something you take ownership of it. That is why I used "we" in that statement.
 
2013-05-27 03:08:03 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Ouze: Um, I think he's right, actually. I think speaking to people in public for his... whatever is constitutionally protected speech and the police have no right to stop him.

As an agnostic, I have no particular interest in supporting his religion, but as an American I certainly support him being able to exercise his rights to it.

What makes you think he was doing this on public grounds?


I'm not clear on that, at all. I could totally be wrong. I went to the website for that 1890's thing but I'm not sure.
 
2013-05-27 03:08:52 AM

miss diminutive: cman: Now that I got that out of the way, imagine if this was someone protesting against the Iraq war during the Bush admin. Many of you would see it differently in that aspect and react much differently.

Depends. Would that protest take the form of approaching children and giving them pamphlets about his political viewpoints? Because I don't think that would fly with most people here, regardless of whether they happen to share his politics or not.

Honestly, it's the fact that he was approaching children that makes what he was doing not cool. Not because of the whole creeper aspect (although I'm sure many parents would see it that way) but because in targeting children he's attempting to recruit people into his ministry or church who are highly impressionable and don't have the same rationale or critical thinking skills as adults. There are obvious benefits to indoctrinating individuals to your religion at an early age.

I get approached quite often on the street by evangelicals who stop and ask me questions about my beliefs and ask me to fill stuff out. As much as I find it annoying, I do realize their rights to do so. But the same evangelicals selling their pitch to kids leaving an elementary school isn't the same thing.


Thank goodness I sorta came prepared
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2013-05-27 03:08:56 AM

cman: unlikely: cman: It is possible that you could have confused my words from another thread where I was talking about my sister and her transgendered girlfriend.

Yeah, just went and found it.

"Yeah, we have certainly helped the LGB portion, but the T has been left behind, but not for much longer. We are gonna take you assholes on, and we will win. "

I think I was fair in reading that "we" after talking about the T in LGB to mean you'd crossed the gap, as it were.

White people were instrumental in the civil rights movement. I feel that I am on their side although I am not one of them so to speak. When you are involved with something you take ownership of it. That is why I used "we" in that statement.


Fair enough.
 
2013-05-27 03:11:20 AM

whither_apophis: Some random guy approaching kids in a parking lot, he's lucky there wasn't more suffering going on.


Yeah, based on the photo of him in the article, I'd say he's lucky he survived with ONLY his right to evangelize being taken away.
 
2013-05-27 03:12:10 AM
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2013-05-27 03:15:49 AM
Free speech? We don't need that!

Oh wait...
 
2013-05-27 03:16:42 AM

Gyrfalcon: whither_apophis: Some random guy approaching kids in a parking lot, he's lucky there wasn't more suffering going on.

Yeah, based on the photo of him in the article, I'd say he's lucky he survived with ONLY his right to evangelize being taken away.


Was it that bad I didn't look, just well...
 
2013-05-27 03:18:31 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: At first I
Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 18:3

But then I
thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. Matthew 6:5


speak english motherfarker

/my village knows where im at
 
2013-05-27 03:18:59 AM
www.supercheats.com
 
2013-05-27 03:21:05 AM

Matthew Keene: Ouze: Um, I think he's right, actually. I think speaking to people in public for his... whatever is constitutionally protected speech and the police have no right to stop him.

As an agnostic, I have no particular interest in supporting his religion, but as an American I certainly support him being able to exercise his rights to it.

Approach my kids for whatever reason, you gonna get smacked.


ding ding ding
 
2013-05-27 03:23:06 AM

thrgd456: Free speech? We don't need that!

Oh wait...


Complaining when their children are harassed by a nutjob != violation of the nutjob's 1st Amendment rights.
 
2013-05-27 03:26:21 AM

LordJiro: thrgd456: Free speech? We don't need that!

Oh wait...

Complaining when their children are harassed by a nutjob != violation of the nutjob's 1st Amendment rights.


Yeh, I'm sorta in the dude shut up and walk away crowd here.
 
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