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2013-05-26 07:20:04 PM
I just discovered Waze this week.  I'm enjoying it so far, although it's really only useful for the passenger.
 
2013-05-26 07:44:51 PM
MADD doesn't like it?  Must be good, then.
 
2013-05-26 08:28:41 PM
Good for Waze, upholding our 4th amendment rights.
 
2013-05-26 09:06:34 PM
Eeeehhhhhhh.....
 
2013-05-26 09:07:41 PM
What is wrong with publishing the location of DUI check points?
It sounds like a good way to reduce the already over crowded prison system.
 
2013-05-26 09:08:02 PM
Oh no! He has ads in his app!

The profit motive makes it evil.
 
2013-05-26 09:08:55 PM
If they aren't illegal, it's perfectly fine to publish the location, right? It's not like they're a transparent cash grab and a 'hard on crime' bullshiat line?
 
2013-05-26 09:09:40 PM

clancifer: MADD doesn't like it?  Must be good, then.


Yep.  DUI checkpoints don't work.  Police know they don't work.  But they use them anyway so they can bust people for other offenses.
 
2013-05-26 09:10:42 PM
Been using Waze since last Dec.

Its useful as long there are more people using it.
 
2013-05-26 09:12:20 PM
FARK DUI checkpoints in the left nostril.

What is the point of inconveniencing everyone when you DO NOTHING to those who you DO catch who are drunk?

How many times have you seen the drunk with 6 prior DUIs and driving on suspended license? Throw these FARKing scum in the hole for 90 days to allow them time to appreciate sobriety. 2nd offense? 365 in the hole.

Until then, screw DUI checkpoints.
 
2013-05-26 09:14:17 PM
Is this where we compare waze E-peens?

//61,195 points and rising.
 
2013-05-26 09:20:29 PM
WAZE rules.  Everyone should use it.
 
2013-05-26 09:21:22 PM

SquishyLizard: Is this where we compare waze E-peens?

//61,195 points and rising.


/52,000ish since Dec.
//took a cross country trip and back
///going to do it again within a month or so.
 
2013-05-26 09:21:38 PM
52411 points
 
2013-05-26 09:22:31 PM

Snotnose: Good for Waze, upholding our 4th amendment rights.

 
2013-05-26 09:24:36 PM

gingerjet: clancifer: MADD doesn't like it?  Must be good, then.

Yep.  DUI checkpoints don't work.  Police know they don't work.  But they use them anyway so they can bust people for other offenses.


After starting DUI checkpoints and publishing in the newspaper (legally required to make the DUI checkpoint legal), the DUI incidents go down by 20%.

That was in the article.

Believe it or not, the cops aren't out to get you, unless you are a criminal.  If you somehow have managed to become a criminal and you think that's ok because "fark the popo"... well, then I'm happy to inform you, people like me pay the police to bust people like you.
 
2013-05-26 09:25:23 PM

skankboy: WAZE rules.  Everyone should use it.


Yes, very very helpful when there is an accident and the traffic is backing up. I was able to avoid the backup in Huston TX by taking another freeway.
 
2013-05-26 09:27:30 PM

Kahabut: people like me pay the police to bust people like you.


Busted thanks to the Walmart Greeter... I'll never live that down.
 
2013-05-26 09:31:17 PM
What? PDs have to announce them ...

Checkpoints must be announced to the public and have to be held in locations that have a history of DUI arrests or alcohol-related crashes. The 1990 US Supreme Court decision that stated the checkpoints were not a violation of the Fourth Amendment protections against illegal searches and seizures.

I know Ohio PDs generally announce the checkpoints to various news outlets everytime they set one up.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/05/24/DUI-taskfor ce -announces-checkpoint.html
 
2013-05-26 09:32:40 PM

NFA: I just discovered Waze this week.  I'm enjoying it so far, although it's really only useful for the passenger.


Huh? It routes you around traffic, which has, on a few occasions, saved me hours of driving. That benefits the driver. It gives you a head up on cops, which saves you the occasional speeding ticket. How the fark does it only benefit the passenger? Put your phone in a holder, and use it as your GPS, and you should be able to see everything just fine.
 
2013-05-26 09:32:43 PM

Kahabut: gingerjet: clancifer: MADD doesn't like it?  Must be good, then.

Yep.  DUI checkpoints don't work.  Police know they don't work.  But they use them anyway so they can bust people for other offenses.

After starting DUI checkpoints and publishing in the newspaper (legally required to make the DUI checkpoint legal), the DUI incidents go down by 20%.

That was in the article.

Believe it or not, the cops aren't out to get you, unless you are a criminal.  If you somehow have managed to become a criminal and you think that's ok because "fark the popo"... well, then I'm happy to inform you, people like me pay the police to bust people like you.


Even if the cops aren't out to get you, they are often ordered to do things that increase ticket revenue.  Quotas are not legal, but they exist.  Before I moved out of Los Angeles, the police union was throwing a fit over the quotas that don't exist.  Cops who didn't write enough tickets found themselves on "freeway duty".  Getting assigned to the station that was as far as possible from where you lived.

And fark the popo because they stopped being public servants a long time ago.  They are no better than street thugs.
 
2013-05-26 09:33:33 PM
I have never heard of Waze until this headline.

/off to google what it is and how it applies to this story
 
2013-05-26 09:35:16 PM

SquishyLizard: Is this where we compare waze E-peens?

//61,195 points and rising.


I had even more than that (and was "Area Manager" for quite a large area) when I realized that I had wasted hours my volunteer time improving the maps so that Waze could sell ads over them. I also discovered that 99% of the supposed traffic jams, accidents, cops, etc. shown on the maps were fake or expired data, and their directions to avoid these couldn't be trusted. The vast majority of the errors on their maps are from minimum-wage-paid workers who didn't give a damn about anything but their next fix. Their ranking system keeps those who actually know their local streets from fixing problems. I had an unlock request on the forum that stayed untouched for over 6 months, and even as an AM I couldn't fix the problem. Good luck getting a new ramp connected to an interstate. A new overpass was built in my part of the world over a year ago and Waze still doesn't know about it because no one in my local area can add it.

Fark Waze. It's a cute toy, but nothing useful will ever come from it.

Not the e-peen swinging you expected, I'm sure.
 
2013-05-26 09:35:58 PM

gingerjet: clancifer: MADD doesn't like it?  Must be good, then.

Yep.  DUI checkpoints don't work.  Police know they don't work.  But they use them anyway so they can bust people for other offenses.


Yep and I thought at least in some places they give the locations on the 5 o'clock news.
 
2013-05-26 09:36:15 PM
Can I get the Ohio, Indiana, Ky and Michigan franchise?
 
2013-05-26 09:37:15 PM

FlyingBacon: skankboy: WAZE rules.  Everyone should use it.

Yes, very very helpful when there is an accident and the traffic is backing up. I was able to avoid the backup in Huston TX by taking another freeway.


If there's an option to avoid Houston at all by taking another freeway, do it! Unless it's 2 in the morning on a Wednesday. I drove all the way through like that once and it was beautiful.
 
2013-05-26 09:37:33 PM
Whenever they do a DUI checkpoint in my town it adds 10 minutes to my drive time because I have to take an alternate route.  If I don't, it will take at least 30 minutes to get through the checkpoint.  No, I don't drink and drive.
 
2013-05-26 09:39:14 PM

OgreMagi: Kahabut: gingerjet: clancifer: MADD doesn't like it?  Must be good, then.

Yep.  DUI checkpoints don't work.  Police know they don't work.  But they use them anyway so they can bust people for other offenses.

After starting DUI checkpoints and publishing in the newspaper (legally required to make the DUI checkpoint legal), the DUI incidents go down by 20%.

That was in the article.

Believe it or not, the cops aren't out to get you, unless you are a criminal.  If you somehow have managed to become a criminal and you think that's ok because "fark the popo"... well, then I'm happy to inform you, people like me pay the police to bust people like you.

Even if the cops aren't out to get you, they are often ordered to do things that increase ticket revenue.  Quotas are not legal, but they exist.  Before I moved out of Los Angeles, the police union was throwing a fit over the quotas that don't exist.  Cops who didn't write enough tickets found themselves on "freeway duty".  Getting assigned to the station that was as far as possible from where you lived.

And fark the popo because they stopped being public servants a long time ago.  They are no better than street thugs.


Yep, and as soon as they stopped wearing shiny black shoes and neck ties, and started wearing combat boots and BDU's they got worse.
 
2013-05-26 09:41:02 PM

OgreMagi: Kahabut: gingerjet: clancifer: MADD doesn't like it?  Must be good, then.

Yep.  DUI checkpoints don't work.  Police know they don't work.  But they use them anyway so they can bust people for other offenses.

After starting DUI checkpoints and publishing in the newspaper (legally required to make the DUI checkpoint legal), the DUI incidents go down by 20%.

That was in the article.

Believe it or not, the cops aren't out to get you, unless you are a criminal.  If you somehow have managed to become a criminal and you think that's ok because "fark the popo"... well, then I'm happy to inform you, people like me pay the police to bust people like you.

Even if the cops aren't out to get you, they are often ordered to do things that increase ticket revenue.  Quotas are not legal, but they exist.  Before I moved out of Los Angeles, the police union was throwing a fit over the quotas that don't exist.  Cops who didn't write enough tickets found themselves on "freeway duty".  Getting assigned to the station that was as far as possible from where you lived.

And fark the popo because they stopped being public servants a long time ago.  They are no better than street thugs.


Then step up and do something about it.  Disregarding law and order is not doing something, besides being a criminal.

Have you ever considered why people like me don't have a problem with the cops and people like you do?  It never occurred to you that it might be a result of your inability to play by the rules that everyone else plays by?

For the record, the cops are public servants, you just aren't the public they are serving.  Grow up, get a job, buy a house and watch the world change around you, as all the sudden the cops are friendly and helpful, instead of your paranoid drug addled brain inventing things to be scared of.
 
2013-05-26 09:41:04 PM
ok so since I don't own a smartphone I guess that would explain why I never heard of it.

it's a crowdsourcing gps.
 
2013-05-26 09:41:05 PM
Kahabut: Believe it or not, the cops aren't out to get you, unless you are a criminal.

Punish everyone (with ridiculous traffic) to catch a handful of drunk idiots.

// Sat in traffic around a checkpoint for 1 hour before (while going to a friends house for a BBQ). When I finally got to the front, they were just waving people through ... last time I use a main road during a drinkers holiday.

// Has to be a better way to catch drunks than holding up traffic.

// And like someone else said, actually do something to the bastards when you do catch them.
 
2013-05-26 09:43:52 PM
I've never had a problem with "cops".  We need them, badly.

I've always had a problem with DUI checkpoints.  They harass everyone using what is essentially a military ambush tactic to catch a scant few true offenders.  They might catch fifty guys in one night, while ten thousand were subject to interrogation and inspection.

/ I'd rather we just focus on bad drivers, drunk or no.
 
2013-05-26 09:44:47 PM
Tried Waze, didn't like it.  Seeing the screen with all the other local users' locations was just too Orwellian for me.  Can that be disabled?
 
2013-05-26 09:45:12 PM
www.global-air.com

PhantomAlert feeds the locations of speed traps and red-light cameras into GPS devices, warning drivers. Police, who are only interested in safety, are thrilled about this. (new window)
 
2013-05-26 09:46:12 PM

Kahabut: OgreMagi: Kahabut: gingerjet: clancifer: MADD doesn't like it?  Must be good, then.

Yep.  DUI checkpoints don't work.  Police know they don't work.  But they use them anyway so they can bust people for other offenses.

After starting DUI checkpoints and publishing in the newspaper (legally required to make the DUI checkpoint legal), the DUI incidents go down by 20%.

That was in the article.

Believe it or not, the cops aren't out to get you, unless you are a criminal.  If you somehow have managed to become a criminal and you think that's ok because "fark the popo"... well, then I'm happy to inform you, people like me pay the police to bust people like you.

Even if the cops aren't out to get you, they are often ordered to do things that increase ticket revenue.  Quotas are not legal, but they exist.  Before I moved out of Los Angeles, the police union was throwing a fit over the quotas that don't exist.  Cops who didn't write enough tickets found themselves on "freeway duty".  Getting assigned to the station that was as far as possible from where you lived.

And fark the popo because they stopped being public servants a long time ago.  They are no better than street thugs.

Then step up and do something about it.  Disregarding law and order is not doing something, besides being a criminal.

Have you ever considered why people like me don't have a problem with the cops and people like you do?  It never occurred to you that it might be a result of your inability to play by the rules that everyone else plays by?

For the record, the cops are public servants, you just aren't the public they are serving.  Grow up, get a job, buy a house and watch the world change around you, as all the sudden the cops are friendly and helpful, instead of your paranoid drug addled brain inventing things to be scared of.


You do realize you can like cops and hate checkpoints, right?  I have everything you listed and yet for some reason I still don't want to be inconvenienced with a checkpoint just so my local police force can earn some revenue.
 
2013-05-26 09:46:55 PM
Waze is all about Waze.

I tried using it, it truly wanted to show me Taco Bell locations. Then it immediately wanted me to rate it.  I rated it one star, annoying.

It's very cute, but seems vulnerable to old data and being annoying as hell.
 
2013-05-26 09:48:16 PM

lordargent: Kahabut: Believe it or not, the cops aren't out to get you, unless you are a criminal.

Punish everyone (with ridiculous traffic) to catch a handful of drunk idiots.

// Sat in traffic around a checkpoint for 1 hour before (while going to a friends house for a BBQ). When I finally got to the front, they were just waving people through ... last time I use a main road during a drinkers holiday.

// Has to be a better way to catch drunks than holding up traffic.

// And like someone else said, actually do something to the bastards when you do catch them.


So you were personally inconvenienced for a while, and that makes you feel persecuted?  Even though you know (because you are an informed adult) that DUI check points lower the incidence of DUI accidents by 20% (or so)?

So essentially, you'd trade 20% more DUI car accidents in exchange for the ability to get to your BBQ faster.

/did you drink at the BBQ?
//you drove home didn't you?
///and you still don't think you're irresponsible
////entitled much?
 
2013-05-26 09:50:09 PM

Kahabut: OgreMagi: Kahabut: gingerjet: clancifer: MADD doesn't like it?  Must be good, then.

Yep.  DUI checkpoints don't work.  Police know they don't work.  But they use them anyway so they can bust people for other offenses.

After starting DUI checkpoints and publishing in the newspaper (legally required to make the DUI checkpoint legal), the DUI incidents go down by 20%.

That was in the article.

Believe it or not, the cops aren't out to get you, unless you are a criminal.  If you somehow have managed to become a criminal and you think that's ok because "fark the popo"... well, then I'm happy to inform you, people like me pay the police to bust people like you.

Even if the cops aren't out to get you, they are often ordered to do things that increase ticket revenue.  Quotas are not legal, but they exist.  Before I moved out of Los Angeles, the police union was throwing a fit over the quotas that don't exist.  Cops who didn't write enough tickets found themselves on "freeway duty".  Getting assigned to the station that was as far as possible from where you lived.

And fark the popo because they stopped being public servants a long time ago.  They are no better than street thugs.

Then step up and do something about it.  Disregarding law and order is not doing something, besides being a criminal.

Have you ever considered why people like me don't have a problem with the cops and people like you do?  It never occurred to you that it might be a result of your inability to play by the rules that everyone else plays by?

For the record, the cops are public servants, you just aren't the public they are serving.  Grow up, get a job, buy a house and watch the world change around you, as all the sudden the cops are friendly and helpful, instead of your paranoid drug addled brain inventing things to be scared of.


There you go making assumptions.  Let's look at my criminal record.  Nope.  Nothing.  I've never been convicted of a crime.  Not even arrested.  Maybe I'm crazy with cars?  OOH. One speeding ticket in the last 25 years!  I should get life!

So I must be some street punk, right?  Nope.  Same job for the last six years.  Previous employer, Google.  I bet I make twice your income.

And you find them friendly and helpful because you go along with anything they do, whether it's legal or not.  The cops are the way they are because people like you encourage them to be thugs and ignore the law because they are going after the people you consider "undesirable".  I bet undesirable includes people with a different shade of skin.
 
2013-05-26 09:51:33 PM
Put them out on the streets looking for people actually driving in a drunken or dangerous manner.  Far less innocent drivers being harassed, far more dangerous drunks actually arrested. No scary military-style checkpoints for civil rights advocates to get all upset over.  its a win for everyone!
 
2013-05-26 09:55:12 PM
An ex -girlfriend of mine was a bartender.She would simply call the police department and ask them where the checkpoints would be.And they would tell her.
/in San diego
 
2013-05-26 09:59:17 PM
Only have one experience with a DUI checkpoint, maybe two. I either case I was the flatbed driver hauling the cars away to impound.  Funny thing is I was drinking to. Not smart, but cops did not care and I was much younger and dumber at the time...
 
2013-05-26 09:59:34 PM
W.C.fields forever: An ex -girlfriend of mine was a bartender.She would simply call the police department and ask them where the checkpoints would be.And they would tell her. /in San diego

The chekpoints are always along the same sets of roads, / in San Diego.
 
2013-05-26 09:59:46 PM
Wouldn't this save them the trouble and expense of actually setting up the check point?
 
2013-05-26 10:00:28 PM

skankboy: Kahabut: people like me pay the police to bust people like you.

Busted thanks to the Walmart Greeter... I'll never live that down.


I got into an altercation with a greeter once. Fark him.
 
2013-05-26 10:02:30 PM
Anyone who is drivin drunk enough to actually need to be locked up is too drunk to remember where the checkpoints are.
 
2013-05-26 10:03:32 PM
Once a San Diego radio station threw a party at the corner of real streets and an imaginary ones, all over the city.

The police could do their own tweeting.

They may also want to print up some shirts to sell later. "I was there!"
 
2013-05-26 10:03:47 PM

Kahabut: OgreMagi: Kahabut: gingerjet: clancifer: MADD doesn't like it?  Must be good, then.

Yep.  DUI checkpoints don't work.  Police know they don't work.  But they use them anyway so they can bust people for other offenses.

After starting DUI checkpoints and publishing in the newspaper (legally required to make the DUI checkpoint legal), the DUI incidents go down by 20%.

That was in the article.

Believe it or not, the cops aren't out to get you, unless you are a criminal.  If you somehow have managed to become a criminal and you think that's ok because "fark the popo"... well, then I'm happy to inform you, people like me pay the police to bust people like you.

Even if the cops aren't out to get you, they are often ordered to do things that increase ticket revenue.  Quotas are not legal, but they exist.  Before I moved out of Los Angeles, the police union was throwing a fit over the quotas that don't exist.  Cops who didn't write enough tickets found themselves on "freeway duty".  Getting assigned to the station that was as far as possible from where you lived.

And fark the popo because they stopped being public servants a long time ago.  They are no better than street thugs.

Then step up and do something about it.  Disregarding law and order is not doing something, besides being a criminal.

Have you ever considered why people like me don't have a problem with the cops and people like you do?  It never occurred to you that it might be a result of your inability to play by the rules that everyone else plays by?

For the record, the cops are public servants, you just aren't the public they are serving.  Grow up, get a job, buy a house and watch the world change around you, as all the sudden the cops are friendly and helpful, instead of your paranoid drug addled brain inventing things to be scared of.


9/10.
 
2013-05-26 10:03:56 PM

Kahabut: OgreMagi: Kahabut: gingerjet: clancifer: MADD doesn't like it?  Must be good, then.

Yep.  DUI checkpoints don't work.  Police know they don't work.  But they use them anyway so they can bust people for other offenses.

After starting DUI checkpoints and publishing in the newspaper (legally required to make the DUI checkpoint legal), the DUI incidents go down by 20%.

That was in the article.

Believe it or not, the cops aren't out to get you, unless you are a criminal.  If you somehow have managed to become a criminal and you think that's ok because "fark the popo"... well, then I'm happy to inform you, people like me pay the police to bust people like you.

Even if the cops aren't out to get you, they are often ordered to do things that increase ticket revenue.  Quotas are not legal, but they exist.  Before I moved out of Los Angeles, the police union was throwing a fit over the quotas that don't exist.  Cops who didn't write enough tickets found themselves on "freeway duty".  Getting assigned to the station that was as far as possible from where you lived.

And fark the popo because they stopped being public servants a long time ago.  They are no better than street thugs.

Then step up and do something about it.  Disregarding law and order is not doing something, besides being a criminal.

Have you ever considered why people like me don't have a problem with the cops and people like you do?  It never occurred to you that it might be a result of your inability to play by the rules that everyone else plays by?

For the record, the cops are public servants, you just aren't the public they are serving.  Grow up, get a job, buy a house and watch the world change around you, as all the sudden the cops are friendly and helpful, instead of your paranoid drug addled brain inventing things to be scared of.


No, the police are not "friendly and helpful". And I'm a law abiding white lady.
 
2013-05-26 10:04:44 PM
I just downloaded Waze ten minutes before I thought to myself 'I haven't been on FARK today and I am bored'.  Kick, I am getting.

UseLessHuman: Put them out on the streets looking for people actually driving in a drunken or dangerous manner.  Far less innocent drivers being harassed, far more dangerous drunks actually arrested. No scary military-style checkpoints for civil rights advocates to get all upset over.  its a win for everyone!


Like cops really know what a drunken driver going down the road really looks like.  After getting pulled over by a cop for suspicious drunk driving because I was obeying the speed limit and stop signs, I don't believe they have a solid knowledge of what they are looking for.
 
2013-05-26 10:06:03 PM

Twitch Boy: Tried Waze, didn't like it.  Seeing the screen with all the other local users' locations was just too Orwellian for me.  Can that be disabled?


Yes. You can make yourself invisible, and you can tell it not to display other users.

I find it useful to know if there's somebody near me though, it gives me a little insight as to how fresh the data might be.
 
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