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(New York Daily News)   George Zimmerman's legal team has been given the green light to present the "the victim was an angry black kid, so it's okay that I shot him" defense   (nydailynews.com) divider line 695
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2013-05-26 04:31:11 PM
He lost two fights in the same night. Pretty sure he took a dive because Mr. Wallace paid him off.
 
2013-05-26 04:43:06 PM
Another George Zimmerman Trayvon Martin thread. These threads make my dick itch.
 
2013-05-26 04:50:27 PM
I think the Zimmerman defense team should have gone for a plea deal.

If some strange man came up to me when I was 17 in the middle of a Florida night and demanded why I was in my neighborhood, I'd have told him to fark off. If he touched me, I'd have kicked his ass too.

The only time something like that happened to me as a teen in Florida, the strange man had a wool cap over his head with eye holes cut into it, holding what appeared to be a small calibar semi-automatic handgun. I just lost $3 that night to the asshat. Called the cops but they couldn't find him, even with a K-9.

/Maybe Zimmerman should have had his gun out.
//Martin would have seen the reall threat that was hidden until too late.
 
2013-05-26 04:52:07 PM

ongbok: Another George Zimmerman Trayvon Martin thread. These threads make my dick itch.


No. That's the STD you caught from my mom.

/Sorry, in a touchy mood with the Trayvon Martin killing, since it could have been me as a Florida teen.
 
2013-05-26 04:55:24 PM

AirForceVet: I think the Zimmerman defense team should have gone for a plea deal.

If some strange man came up to me when I was 17 in the middle of a Florida night and demanded why I was in my neighborhood, I'd have told him to fark off. If he touched me, I'd have kicked his ass too.

The only time something like that happened to me as a teen in Florida, the strange man had a wool cap over his head with eye holes cut into it, holding what appeared to be a small calibar semi-automatic handgun. I just lost $3 that night to the asshat. Called the cops but they couldn't find him, even with a K-9.

/Maybe Zimmerman should have had his gun out.
//Martin would have seen the reall threat that was hidden until too late.


Anybody with a half of brain would do the same thing and would tell their kids to do the same. If they claim they wouldn't, they are full of shiat.
 
2013-05-26 04:55:51 PM
"Angry black kid" is a bid redundant, no?
 
2013-05-26 05:09:47 PM

AirForceVet: ongbok: Another George Zimmerman Trayvon Martin thread. These threads make my dick itch.

No. That's the STD you caught from my mom.

/Sorry, in a touchy mood with the Trayvon Martin killing, since it could have been me as a Florida teen.


DUDE!
I was gonna blame HIS mom, but you made me realize fat chicks all look alike.
 
2013-05-26 05:31:56 PM
Well, the rest of us are free to publicize the George Zimmerman is trigger-happy racist that killed a black kid for daring to walk through a white neighborhood.
 
2013-05-26 05:34:21 PM
DRINK!
 
2013-05-26 05:34:34 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Well, the rest of us are free to publicize the George Zimmerman is trigger-happy racist that killed a black kid for daring to walk through a white neighborhood.


Proving you are a racist.
 
2013-05-26 05:45:29 PM

AirForceVet: I think the Zimmerman defense team should have gone for a plea deal.

If some strange man came up to me when I was 17 in the middle of a Florida night and demanded why I was in my neighborhood, I'd have told him to fark off. If he touched me, I'd have kicked his ass too.

The only time something like that happened to me as a teen in Florida, the strange man had a wool cap over his head with eye holes cut into it, holding what appeared to be a small calibar semi-automatic handgun. I just lost $3 that night to the asshat. Called the cops but they couldn't find him, even with a K-9.

/Maybe Zimmerman should have had his gun out.
//Martin would have seen the reall threat that was hidden until too late.


Was it this dude?
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-05-26 05:47:42 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Well, the rest of us are free to publicize the George Zimmerman is trigger-happy racist that killed a black kid for daring to walk through a white neighborhood.


Drink!
 
2013-05-26 05:48:15 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: "Angry black kid" is a bid redundant, no?


Youd be pissed off too if you were black
 
2013-05-26 05:49:32 PM
Whoo hoo!  This thread is a Memorial Day Weekend miracle!
 
2013-05-26 05:50:14 PM
Wait? Does the article say the defense was allowed to use all that? I thought the article said the hearing was next week ...
 
2013-05-26 05:51:07 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
Trust everything the media tells you.
 
2013-05-26 05:51:10 PM

AirForceVet: I think the Zimmerman defense team should have gone for a plea deal.

If some strange man came up to me when I was 17 in the middle of a Florida night and demanded why I was in my neighborhood, I'd have told him to fark off. If he touched me, I'd have kicked his ass too.

The only time something like that happened to me as a teen in Florida, the strange man had a wool cap over his head with eye holes cut into it, holding what appeared to be a small calibar semi-automatic handgun. I just lost $3 that night to the asshat. Called the cops but they couldn't find him, even with a K-9.

/Maybe Zimmerman should have had his gun out.
//Martin would have seen the reall threat that was hidden until too late.


They still could. And I suspect they still might, since they'll never be able to seat a jury.
 
2013-05-26 05:51:34 PM
From CNN.com's timeline of the events:
"According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman tells authorities that after Zimmerman briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman says, he reaches for his cell phone, and then Martin punches him in the nose. Zimmerman says Martin pins him to the ground and begins slamming his head into the sidewalk." Note this part of the timeline was confirmed by the police.
When Zimmerman lost Martin, any initial altercation was over, meaning Zimmerman's alleged speaking or following Martin is irrelevant. Martin then begins a new altercation by approaching Zimmerman. Martin is the aggressor, Zimmerman feels his life is in danger and utilizes his CCW. This is a textbook self defense scenario, taught in almost every ccp course I've ever seen. Case closed.
 
2013-05-26 05:51:57 PM
Is he having a bench trial?
 
2013-05-26 05:52:55 PM

ChaosStar: From CNN.com's timeline of the events:
"According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman tells authorities that after Zimmerman briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman says, he reaches for his cell phone, and then Martin punches him in the nose. Zimmerman says Martin pins him to the ground and begins slamming his head into the sidewalk." Note this part of the timeline was confirmed by the police.
When Zimmerman lost Martin, any initial altercation was over, meaning Zimmerman's alleged speaking or following Martin is irrelevant. Martin then begins a new altercation by approaching Zimmerman. Martin is the aggressor, Zimmerman feels his life is in danger and utilizes his CCW. This is a textbook self defense scenario, taught in almost every ccp course I've ever seen. Case closed.


You're funny.
 
2013-05-26 05:53:36 PM
...and I will wait to see the absolute proof of that. And then why, if so, that proof justifies him being shot dead.
 
2013-05-26 05:53:49 PM
You're going to look good in orange.
I guarantee it.
 
2013-05-26 05:54:14 PM
If you have more loyalty to your race than you do to truth and justice then you are part of the problem.
 
2013-05-26 05:54:21 PM

AirForceVet: I think the Zimmerman defense team should have gone for a plea deal.


Why?  The state basically handed them a free acquittal by going for 2nd degree murder, for which there's plenty of reasonable doubt even without the victim having a history of getting into brawls, instead of manslaughter, which doesn't require much in the way of intent and on which the victim's participation in the fight has no bearing.

Why would you take a plea deal when the state seems actively determined to get your client off for you through sheer incompetence?
 
2013-05-26 05:54:41 PM

ChaosStar: From CNN.com's timeline of the events:
"According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman tells authorities that after Zimmerman briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman says, he reaches for his cell phone, and then Martin punches him in the nose. Zimmerman says Martin pins him to the ground and begins slamming his head into the sidewalk." Note this part of the timeline was confirmed by the police.
When Zimmerman lost Martin, any initial altercation was over, meaning Zimmerman's alleged speaking or following Martin is irrelevant. Martin then begins a new altercation by approaching Zimmerman. Martin is the aggressor, Zimmerman feels his life is in danger and utilizes his CCW. This is a textbook self defense scenario, taught in almost every ccp course I've ever seen. Case closed.


Clearly.
 
2013-05-26 05:55:50 PM

ChaosStar: From CNN.com's timeline of the events:
"According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman tells authorities that after Zimmerman briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman says, he reaches for his cell phone, and then Martin punches him in the nose. Zimmerman says Martin pins him to the ground and begins slamming his head into the sidewalk." Note this part of the timeline was confirmed by the police.
When Zimmerman lost Martin, any initial altercation was over, meaning Zimmerman's alleged speaking or following Martin is irrelevant. Martin then begins a new altercation by approaching Zimmerman. Martin is the aggressor, Zimmerman feels his life is in danger and utilizes his CCW. This is a textbook self defense scenario, taught in almost every ccp course I've ever seen. Case closed.


This ... can't believe this is still being debated.  It's good the little shiatstain got shot ... Zimmerman should be thanks for doing the world a favor.
 
2013-05-26 05:55:51 PM

gimmegimme: ChaosStar: From CNN.com's timeline of the events:
"According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman tells authorities that after Zimmerman briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman says, he reaches for his cell phone, and then Martin punches him in the nose. Zimmerman says Martin pins him to the ground and begins slamming his head into the sidewalk." Note this part of the timeline was confirmed by the police.
When Zimmerman lost Martin, any initial altercation was over, meaning Zimmerman's alleged speaking or following Martin is irrelevant. Martin then begins a new altercation by approaching Zimmerman. Martin is the aggressor, Zimmerman feels his life is in danger and utilizes his CCW. This is a textbook self defense scenario, taught in almost every ccp course I've ever seen. Case closed.

You're funny.



Where's Martin's side?  Oh right.
 
2013-05-26 05:56:36 PM

thisiszombocom: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: "Angry black kid" is a bid redundant, no?

Youd be pissed off too if you were black


The giant penis would be nice, though
 
2013-05-26 05:58:07 PM

GF named my left testicle thundercles: If you have more loyalty to your race than you do to truth and justice then you are part of the problem.


Isn't it sick?  These people are gleeful over the death of a 17-year-old kid.

files.abovetopsecret.com

www.washingtonpost.com
 
2013-05-26 05:58:17 PM

seadoo2006: ChaosStar: From CNN.com's timeline of the events:
"According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman tells authorities that after Zimmerman briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman says, he reaches for his cell phone, and then Martin punches him in the nose. Zimmerman says Martin pins him to the ground and begins slamming his head into the sidewalk." Note this part of the timeline was confirmed by the police.
When Zimmerman lost Martin, any initial altercation was over, meaning Zimmerman's alleged speaking or following Martin is irrelevant. Martin then begins a new altercation by approaching Zimmerman. Martin is the aggressor, Zimmerman feels his life is in danger and utilizes his CCW. This is a textbook self defense scenario, taught in almost every ccp course I've ever seen. Case closed.

This ... can't believe this is still being debated.  It's good the little shiatstain got shot ... Zimmerman should be thanks for doing the world a favor.



That this is Zimmerman's story isn't being debated.
 
2013-05-26 05:59:27 PM
Zimmerman walks. The only reason they aimed for so high.a charge was to try to get him to plea deal. The prosecution doesn't have enough evidence.
 
2013-05-26 05:59:37 PM

Abox: seadoo2006: ChaosStar: From CNN.com's timeline of the events:
"According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman tells authorities that after Zimmerman briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman says, he reaches for his cell phone, and then Martin punches him in the nose. Zimmerman says Martin pins him to the ground and begins slamming his head into the sidewalk." Note this part of the timeline was confirmed by the police.
When Zimmerman lost Martin, any initial altercation was over, meaning Zimmerman's alleged speaking or following Martin is irrelevant. Martin then begins a new altercation by approaching Zimmerman. Martin is the aggressor, Zimmerman feels his life is in danger and utilizes his CCW. This is a textbook self defense scenario, taught in almost every ccp course I've ever seen. Case closed.

This ... can't believe this is still being debated.  It's good the little shiatstain got shot ... Zimmerman should be thanks for doing the world a favor.


That this is Zimmerman's story isn't being debated.


Dude, why wouldn't you take Zimmerman's story at face value?
 
2013-05-26 06:01:43 PM
So by that logic if the kid was a drunk abusive Irish man that beat his wife it would be okay to shoot him as well.

When did text messages become de facto proof that warrants killing people?
 
2013-05-26 06:02:47 PM
Not an angry black kid, a violent and assaultive black kid.
 
2013-05-26 06:03:28 PM
We don't have Martin's side of the story, so whatever we make up is now indisputable evidence.
 
2013-05-26 06:03:42 PM
My money is on Zimmerman eating a bullet in a few years.
 
2013-05-26 06:03:56 PM

seadoo2006: ChaosStar: From CNN.com's timeline of the events:
"According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman tells authorities that after Zimmerman briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman says, he reaches for his cell phone, and then Martin punches him in the nose. Zimmerman says Martin pins him to the ground and begins slamming his head into the sidewalk." Note this part of the timeline was confirmed by the police.
When Zimmerman lost Martin, any initial altercation was over, meaning Zimmerman's alleged speaking or following Martin is irrelevant. Martin then begins a new altercation by approaching Zimmerman. Martin is the aggressor, Zimmerman feels his life is in danger and utilizes his CCW. This is a textbook self defense scenario, taught in almost every ccp course I've ever seen. Case closed.

This ... can't believe this is still being debated.  It's good the little shiatstain got shot ... Zimmerman should be thanks for doing the world a favor.


You really need trolling lessons. Luckily, there are some masters around here that could probably take you under their wing.
 
2013-05-26 06:04:16 PM

gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: If you have more loyalty to your race than you do to truth and justice then you are part of the problem.

Isn't it sick?  These people are gleeful over the death of a 17-year-old kid.

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 520x673]

[www.washingtonpost.com image 500x749]


i dont know the facts. but it is possible that he deserved it by attacking zimmerman. i dont know if that is the case. everyone should chill out. allow the facts to be presented in a reasonable manner in court. that is all i have to say.
 
2013-05-26 06:04:37 PM

jehovahs witness protection: He lost two fights in the same night. Pretty sure he took a dive because Mr. Wallace paid him off.


The pikey goes down in the fourth!
 
2013-05-26 06:04:42 PM
Did anyone see this story on 20/20?  A dude in Texas had neighbors who were pretty far away who were having a party.  Dude strolls over armed and shot a bunch of unarmed people, all the while telling his video camera "I'm afraid fer ma life!"  The video of the incident, of course, is about as scary as a My Little Pony episode.

Sorry Georgie, you can't go around shooting people for no reason.
 
2013-05-26 06:06:58 PM

GF named my left testicle thundercles: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: If you have more loyalty to your race than you do to truth and justice then you are part of the problem.

Isn't it sick?  These people are gleeful over the death of a 17-year-old kid.

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 520x673]

[www.washingtonpost.com image 500x749]

i dont know the facts. but it is possible that he deserved it by attacking zimmerman. i dont know if that is the case. everyone should chill out. allow the facts to be presented in a reasonable manner in court. that is all i have to say.


Why excuse Zimmerman's actions?  If you are armed and you stalk someone around in a car and then on foot and follow the person between buildings when it's clear they are trying to get the hell away from you, well, you just started a fight.

Unless you're a cop, which Zimmerman, with his history of violence, is certainly not.
 
2013-05-26 06:07:02 PM

mexican bathtub cheese: Not an angry black kid, a violent and assaultive black kid.


Did he have a criminal record for violence and assault?
 
2013-05-26 06:08:23 PM
Why didn't Zimmerman stay the fark in his car like he was told to?
 
2013-05-26 06:08:49 PM

Ryker's Peninsula: You're going to look good in orange.
I guarantee it.


I am saddened to admit that yep, that's the first thing I hear whenever I hear the name George Zimmer...
 
2013-05-26 06:08:54 PM
Not this thread again.
 
2013-05-26 06:09:00 PM
"Look, the kid took pictures of stuff.  He clearly deserved to be killed."
 
2013-05-26 06:09:06 PM

Wolf_Blitzer: seadoo2006:
This ... can't believe this is still being debated.  It's good the little shiatstain got shot ... Zimmerman should be thanks for doing the world a favor.

You really need trolling lessons. Luckily, there are some masters around here that could probably take you under their wing.


He has the poor grammar down. That's a decent effort, you have to admit. Sadly, I think he's a bit too short to be in the Troll Core.
 
2013-05-26 06:09:14 PM

gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: If you have more loyalty to your race than you do to truth and justice then you are part of the problem.

Isn't it sick?  These people are gleeful over the death of a 17-year-old kid.

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 520x673]

[www.washingtonpost.com image 500x749]

i dont know the facts. but it is possible that he deserved it by attacking zimmerman. i dont know if that is the case. everyone should chill out. allow the facts to be presented in a reasonable manner in court. that is all i have to say.

Why excuse Zimmerman's actions?  If you are armed and you stalk someone around in a car and then on foot and follow the person between buildings when it's clear they are trying to get the hell away from you, well, you just started a fight.

Unless you're a cop, which Zimmerman, with his history of violence, is certainly not.


Does that mean I can just walk through your yard anytime, while looking suspicious, and get pissed if anyoen asks me why I'm doing so and if they keep following me after I "try" to leave.  Can I beat up that homeowner for doing so?
 
2013-05-26 06:09:24 PM

A Terrible Human: Why didn't Zimmerman stay the fark in his car like he was told to?


Because "they" always get away.
 
2013-05-26 06:09:39 PM

ChaosStar: From CNN.com's timeline of the events:
"According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman tells authorities that after Zimmerman briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman says, he reaches for his cell phone, and then Martin punches him in the nose. Zimmerman says Martin pins him to the ground and begins slamming his head into the sidewalk." Note this part of the timeline was confirmed by the police.
When Zimmerman lost Martin, any initial altercation was over, meaning Zimmerman's alleged speaking or following Martin is irrelevant. Martin then begins a new altercation by approaching Zimmerman. Martin is the aggressor, Zimmerman feels his life is in danger and utilizes his CCW. This is a textbook self defense scenario, taught in almost every ccp course I've ever seen. Case closed.


I find the highlighted part above the interesting bit.
 
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