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(New York Daily News)   George Zimmerman's legal team has been given the green light to present the "the victim was an angry black kid, so it's okay that I shot him" defense   (nydailynews.com) divider line 693
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2013-05-26 06:10:49 PM

seadoo2006: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: If you have more loyalty to your race than you do to truth and justice then you are part of the problem.

Isn't it sick?  These people are gleeful over the death of a 17-year-old kid.

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[www.washingtonpost.com image 500x749]

i dont know the facts. but it is possible that he deserved it by attacking zimmerman. i dont know if that is the case. everyone should chill out. allow the facts to be presented in a reasonable manner in court. that is all i have to say.

Why excuse Zimmerman's actions?  If you are armed and you stalk someone around in a car and then on foot and follow the person between buildings when it's clear they are trying to get the hell away from you, well, you just started a fight.

Unless you're a cop, which Zimmerman, with his history of violence, is certainly not.

Does that mean I can just walk through your yard anytime, while looking suspicious, and get pissed if anyoen asks me why I'm doing so and if they keep following me after I "try" to leave.  Can I beat up that homeowner for doing so?


Zimmerman didn't own the home.  Your analogy is sillypants.

Besides, you would call 911 and do as you're told.
 
2013-05-26 06:11:09 PM

Abox: seadoo2006: ChaosStar: From CNN.com's timeline of the events:
"According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman tells authorities that after Zimmerman briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman says, he reaches for his cell phone, and then Martin punches him in the nose. Zimmerman says Martin pins him to the ground and begins slamming his head into the sidewalk." Note this part of the timeline was confirmed by the police.
When Zimmerman lost Martin, any initial altercation was over, meaning Zimmerman's alleged speaking or following Martin is irrelevant. Martin then begins a new altercation by approaching Zimmerman. Martin is the aggressor, Zimmerman feels his life is in danger and utilizes his CCW. This is a textbook self defense scenario, taught in almost every ccp course I've ever seen. Case closed.

This ... can't believe this is still being debated.  It's good the little shiatstain got shot ... Zimmerman should be thanks for doing the world a favor.


That this is Zimmerman's story isn't being debated.


His story is backed up by the evidence.
He lost sight of Martin while on the phone with dispatch.
Dispatcher: What's your apartment number?
Zimmerman: It's a home it's 1950, oh crap, I don't want to give it all out, I don't know where this kid is.

Zimmerman then suffers a broken nose, injured head, and shows signs he was struggling while on his back. These are all signs of being the victim, not the aggressor.
 
2013-05-26 06:12:21 PM

Saturn5: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 554x322]
Trust everything the media tells you.


Actually, the Predator won't kill you if you're unarmed.
 
2013-05-26 06:12:54 PM

gimmegimme: A Terrible Human: Why didn't Zimmerman stay the fark in his car like he was told to?

Because "they" always get away.


First rule of acting out of self defense:  If you can escape the situation, do so.

/zeroth rule is if you can avoid the situation...
 
2013-05-26 06:13:12 PM

gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: If you have more loyalty to your race than you do to truth and justice then you are part of the problem.

Isn't it sick?  These people are gleeful over the death of a 17-year-old kid.

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 520x673]

[www.washingtonpost.com image 500x749]

i dont know the facts. but it is possible that he deserved it by attacking zimmerman. i dont know if that is the case. everyone should chill out. allow the facts to be presented in a reasonable manner in court. that is all i have to say.

Why excuse Zimmerman's actions?  If you are armed and you stalk someone around in a car and then on foot and follow the person between buildings when it's clear they are trying to get the hell away from you, well, you just started a fight.

Unless you're a cop, which Zimmerman, with his history of violence, is certainly not.


That's a perfect way to start a fight.
To bad that's not what happened in this case.
 
2013-05-26 06:13:55 PM
The fact that he likes his weed is irrelevant to the case. The fact that he was having online conversations about purple drank, it was found in his system, and he was returning after buying 2 of the 3 ingredients used to make it does help explain why he was so aggressive and attacked the little mexican guy who ended up shooting him in self defense.
 
2013-05-26 06:13:56 PM

ChaosStar: Abox: seadoo2006: ChaosStar: From CNN.com's timeline of the events:
"According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman tells authorities that after Zimmerman briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman says, he reaches for his cell phone, and then Martin punches him in the nose. Zimmerman says Martin pins him to the ground and begins slamming his head into the sidewalk." Note this part of the timeline was confirmed by the police.
When Zimmerman lost Martin, any initial altercation was over, meaning Zimmerman's alleged speaking or following Martin is irrelevant. Martin then begins a new altercation by approaching Zimmerman. Martin is the aggressor, Zimmerman feels his life is in danger and utilizes his CCW. This is a textbook self defense scenario, taught in almost every ccp course I've ever seen. Case closed.

This ... can't believe this is still being debated.  It's good the little shiatstain got shot ... Zimmerman should be thanks for doing the world a favor.


That this is Zimmerman's story isn't being debated.

His story is backed up by the evidence.
He lost sight of Martin while on the phone with dispatch.
Dispatcher: What's your apartment number?
Zimmerman: It's a home it's 1950, oh crap, I don't want to give it all out, I don't know where this kid is.

Zimmerman then suffers a broken nose, injured head, and shows signs he was struggling while on his back. These are all signs of being the victim, not the aggressor.


Was that before Zimmerman was told to fark off and go home?
 
2013-05-26 06:14:39 PM

Abox: mexican bathtub cheese: Not an angry black kid, a violent and assaultive black kid.

Did he have a criminal record for violence and assault?


Your mother doesn't have a criminal record for prostitution either.
 
2013-05-26 06:14:40 PM

special20: My money is on Zimmerman eating a bullet in a few years.


My money is on Zimm eating a few more tacos before that.

i.imgur.com

(I have no idea why I felt the need to include VJack. It just sort of happened that way)
 
2013-05-26 06:14:57 PM

tyrajam: The fact that he likes his weed is irrelevant to the case. The fact that he was having online conversations about purple drank, it was found in his system, and he was returning after buying 2 of the 3 ingredients used to make it does help explain why he was so aggressive and attacked the little mexican guy who ended up shooting him in self defense.


Aggressive people don't often run away.
 
2013-05-26 06:15:39 PM

MJMaloney187: Wait? Does the article say the defense was allowed to use all that? I thought the article said the hearing was next week ...


No, it has yet to be allowed

Some of it will be allowed. This judge will be overturned on appeal if evidence is not allowed and Zimmerman is convicted....esp any evidence showing TM stoned around the time of incident, pot use, and any time the prosecutors spew the "Trayvon was a 14 yr old honor student" BS

It is obvious that the prosecution is in trouble.... they want all the negative Trayvon evidence excluded....you can't lynch an innocent man if you are caught cold busted lying

Just wonder how much of their ghetto the Black Racists gonna burn when they can't lynch Zimmerman...
 
2013-05-26 06:15:57 PM

A Terrible Human: Why didn't Zimmerman stay the fark in his car like he was told to?


He might have, if he had been told to stay in his car. He wasn't though; he was asked by the dispatcher if he was following him (Martin), he said yes, the dispatcher told him that he didn't need to do that to which he replied ok and stopped.
 
2013-05-26 06:16:28 PM

FloridaFarkTag: MJMaloney187: Wait? Does the article say the defense was allowed to use all that? I thought the article said the hearing was next week ...

No, it has yet to be allowed

Some of it will be allowed. This judge will be overturned on appeal if evidence is not allowed and Zimmerman is convicted....esp any evidence showing TM stoned around the time of incident, pot use, and any time the prosecutors spew the "Trayvon was a 14 yr old honor student" BS

It is obvious that the prosecution is in trouble.... they want all the negative Trayvon evidence excluded....you can't lynch an innocent man if you are caught cold busted lying

Just wonder how much of their ghetto the Black Racists gonna burn when they can't lynch Zimmerman...


Ted Nugent isn't black...
 
2013-05-26 06:17:18 PM

gimmegimme: seadoo2006: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: If you have more loyalty to your race than you do to truth and justice then you are part of the problem.

Isn't it sick?  These people are gleeful over the death of a 17-year-old kid.

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 520x673]

[www.washingtonpost.com image 500x749]

i dont know the facts. but it is possible that he deserved it by attacking zimmerman. i dont know if that is the case. everyone should chill out. allow the facts to be presented in a reasonable manner in court. that is all i have to say.

Why excuse Zimmerman's actions?  If you are armed and you stalk someone around in a car and then on foot and follow the person between buildings when it's clear they are trying to get the hell away from you, well, you just started a fight.

Unless you're a cop, which Zimmerman, with his history of violence, is certainly not.

Does that mean I can just walk through your yard anytime, while looking suspicious, and get pissed if anyoen asks me why I'm doing so and if they keep following me after I "try" to leave.  Can I beat up that homeowner for doing so?

Zimmerman didn't own the home.  Your analogy is sillypants.

Besides, you would call 911 and do as you're told.


Uh, no, I've called 911 on several obvious drunk drivers and a couple hit-and-run people and followed them even against the 911 operator's advice ... why you may ask? For the same reason that people own guns, because by the time the police show up, that person is long gone.

Put it another way ... if you were sideswiped in traffic and the person took off ... would you call the police and wait for them to catch the hit and run, or would you keep your tabs on them until the police got there?  I mean, that's what insurance is for, so why do you give two shiats if the person that hit your car is caught or not.
 
2013-05-26 06:17:22 PM

gimmegimme: ChaosStar: Abox: seadoo2006: ChaosStar: From CNN.com's timeline of the events:
"According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman tells authorities that after Zimmerman briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchange words, Zimmerman says, he reaches for his cell phone, and then Martin punches him in the nose. Zimmerman says Martin pins him to the ground and begins slamming his head into the sidewalk." Note this part of the timeline was confirmed by the police.
When Zimmerman lost Martin, any initial altercation was over, meaning Zimmerman's alleged speaking or following Martin is irrelevant. Martin then begins a new altercation by approaching Zimmerman. Martin is the aggressor, Zimmerman feels his life is in danger and utilizes his CCW. This is a textbook self defense scenario, taught in almost every ccp course I've ever seen. Case closed.

This ... can't believe this is still being debated.  It's good the little shiatstain got shot ... Zimmerman should be thanks for doing the world a favor.


That this is Zimmerman's story isn't being debated.

His story is backed up by the evidence.
He lost sight of Martin while on the phone with dispatch.
Dispatcher: What's your apartment number?
Zimmerman: It's a home it's 1950, oh crap, I don't want to give it all out, I don't know where this kid is.

Zimmerman then suffers a broken nose, injured head, and shows signs he was struggling while on his back. These are all signs of being the victim, not the aggressor.

Was that before Zimmerman was told to fark off and go home?


Considering he never was, I'm gonna go with... before?
 
2013-05-26 06:17:41 PM

Abox: mexican bathtub cheese: Not an angry black kid, a violent and assaultive black kid.

Did he have a criminal record for violence and assault?


George Zimmerman did.
 
2013-05-26 06:18:20 PM

Saturn5: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 554x322]
Trust everything the media tells you.


As opposed to the media image of Martin being a pot smoker and a....

mexican bathtub cheese: Not an angry black kid, a violent and assaultive black kid.


as well as....

seadoo2006: This ... can't believe this is still being debated.  It's good the little shiatstain got shot ... Zimmerman should be thanks for doing the world a favor.

 
2013-05-26 06:18:21 PM

ChaosStar: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: If you have more loyalty to your race than you do to truth and justice then you are part of the problem.

Isn't it sick?  These people are gleeful over the death of a 17-year-old kid.

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 520x673]

[www.washingtonpost.com image 500x749]

i dont know the facts. but it is possible that he deserved it by attacking zimmerman. i dont know if that is the case. everyone should chill out. allow the facts to be presented in a reasonable manner in court. that is all i have to say.

Why excuse Zimmerman's actions?  If you are armed and you stalk someone around in a car and then on foot and follow the person between buildings when it's clear they are trying to get the hell away from you, well, you just started a fight.

Unless you're a cop, which Zimmerman, with his history of violence, is certainly not.

That's a perfect way to start a fight.
To bad that's not what happened in this case.


Tell us what happened. You seem to know something the rest of the country doesn't.
 
2013-05-26 06:19:08 PM

seadoo2006: Does that mean I can just walk through your yard anytime, while looking suspicious black, and get pissed shot if anyoen asks me why I'm doing so and if they keep following me after I "try" to leave. Can I beat up that homeowner for doing so?


ftfy
 
2013-05-26 06:19:34 PM
Every teenager is hostile. Great detective work there, Lou. Hell, sitting in traffic makes me hostile.

Hostile texts does not justiy killing me.
 
2013-05-26 06:19:41 PM

seadoo2006: gimmegimme: seadoo2006: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: If you have more loyalty to your race than you do to truth and justice then you are part of the problem.

Isn't it sick?  These people are gleeful over the death of a 17-year-old kid.

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 520x673]

[www.washingtonpost.com image 500x749]

i dont know the facts. but it is possible that he deserved it by attacking zimmerman. i dont know if that is the case. everyone should chill out. allow the facts to be presented in a reasonable manner in court. that is all i have to say.

Why excuse Zimmerman's actions?  If you are armed and you stalk someone around in a car and then on foot and follow the person between buildings when it's clear they are trying to get the hell away from you, well, you just started a fight.

Unless you're a cop, which Zimmerman, with his history of violence, is certainly not.

Does that mean I can just walk through your yard anytime, while looking suspicious, and get pissed if anyoen asks me why I'm doing so and if they keep following me after I "try" to leave.  Can I beat up that homeowner for doing so?

Zimmerman didn't own the home.  Your analogy is sillypants.

Besides, you would call 911 and do as you're told.

Uh, no, I've called 911 on several obvious drunk drivers and a couple hit-and-run people and followed them even against the 911 operator's advice ... why you may ask? For the same reason that people own guns, because by the time the police show up, that person is long gone.

Put it another way ... if you were sideswiped in traffic and the person took off ... would you call the police and wait for them to catch the hit and run, or would you keep your tabs on them until the police got there?  I mean, that's what insurance is for, so why do you give two shiats if the person that hit your car is caught or not.


Okay, okay...let's continue with your line of thought.  You would follow someone who just sideswiped you so you could get their license plate number.  You would stand out on your porch with a gun when someone walks through your yard.  (You're a helluva neighbor, by the way.)  I can see the logic here.

Why was Zimmerman following Martin?  Under what authority did he engage in an armed pursuit?
 
2013-05-26 06:20:15 PM

LegacyDL: So by that logic if the kid was a drunk abusive Irish man that beat his wife it would be okay to shoot him as well.

When did text messages become de facto proof that warrants killing people?


Calling yourself "No Limit Ni--a" on twitter don't help either
 
2013-05-26 06:20:42 PM

special20: My money is on Zimmerman eating a bullet in a few years.


He should be housed with Jodi Arias.
 
2013-05-26 06:21:11 PM

gimmegimme: seadoo2006: gimmegimme: seadoo2006: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: If you have more loyalty to your race than you do to truth and justice then you are part of the problem.

Isn't it sick?  These people are gleeful over the death of a 17-year-old kid.

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 520x673]

[www.washingtonpost.com image 500x749]

i dont know the facts. but it is possible that he deserved it by attacking zimmerman. i dont know if that is the case. everyone should chill out. allow the facts to be presented in a reasonable manner in court. that is all i have to say.

Why excuse Zimmerman's actions?  If you are armed and you stalk someone around in a car and then on foot and follow the person between buildings when it's clear they are trying to get the hell away from you, well, you just started a fight.

Unless you're a cop, which Zimmerman, with his history of violence, is certainly not.

Does that mean I can just walk through your yard anytime, while looking suspicious, and get pissed if anyoen asks me why I'm doing so and if they keep following me after I "try" to leave.  Can I beat up that homeowner for doing so?

Zimmerman didn't own the home.  Your analogy is sillypants.

Besides, you would call 911 and do as you're told.

Uh, no, I've called 911 on several obvious drunk drivers and a couple hit-and-run people and followed them even against the 911 operator's advice ... why you may ask? For the same reason that people own guns, because by the time the police show up, that person is long gone.

Put it another way ... if you were sideswiped in traffic and the person took off ... would you call the police and wait for them to catch the hit and run, or would you keep your tabs on them until the police got there?  I mean, that's what insurance is for, so why do you give two shiats if the person that hit your car is caught or not.

Okay, okay...let's continue with your line of thought.  You would f ...


I believe having a CCW makes anything an 'armed pursuit' ...
 
2013-05-26 06:21:19 PM
The mestizo walks. The only time he might have done anything illegal was the period for which we have only his account.
 
2013-05-26 06:21:31 PM

duffblue: ChaosStar: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: gimmegimme: GF named my left testicle thundercles: If you have more loyalty to your race than you do to truth and justice then you are part of the problem.

Isn't it sick?  These people are gleeful over the death of a 17-year-old kid.

[files.abovetopsecret.com image 520x673]

[www.washingtonpost.com image 500x749]

i dont know the facts. but it is possible that he deserved it by attacking zimmerman. i dont know if that is the case. everyone should chill out. allow the facts to be presented in a reasonable manner in court. that is all i have to say.

Why excuse Zimmerman's actions?  If you are armed and you stalk someone around in a car and then on foot and follow the person between buildings when it's clear they are trying to get the hell away from you, well, you just started a fight.

Unless you're a cop, which Zimmerman, with his history of violence, is certainly not.

That's a perfect way to start a fight.
To bad that's not what happened in this case.

Tell us what happened. You seem to know something the rest of the country doesn't.


Be cause your hyperbolic rest of the country doesn't read the phone call transcripts, listen to the calls, read the witness statements, Zimmerman's statements, etc.
It's all outlined, its all pretty much follows Zimmerman's accounting of things.
No, everyone just grabs onto whatever story they heard on the news the night of the shooting, or whatever misinformation was distributed through Facebook, Twitter, and whatever other social media people use these days and treats it as gospel.
 
2013-05-26 06:21:32 PM

Saturn5: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 554x322]
Trust everything the media tells you.


I was under the impression that Martin was portrayed as a somewhat typical teenager and that Zimmerman was thought of as being more like this minus the badge:

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-26 06:21:41 PM

gimmegimme: FloridaFarkTag: MJMaloney187: Wait? Does the article say the defense was allowed to use all that? I thought the article said the hearing was next week ...

No, it has yet to be allowed

Some of it will be allowed. This judge will be overturned on appeal if evidence is not allowed and Zimmerman is convicted....esp any evidence showing TM stoned around the time of incident, pot use, and any time the prosecutors spew the "Trayvon was a 14 yr old honor student" BS

It is obvious that the prosecution is in trouble.... they want all the negative Trayvon evidence excluded....you can't lynch an innocent man if you are caught cold busted lying

Just wonder how much of their ghetto the Black Racists gonna burn when they can't lynch Zimmerman...

Ted Nugent isn't black...


You probably aren't old enough to remember the Rodney king riots
 
2013-05-26 06:21:46 PM

ChaosStar: Zimmerman then suffers a broken nose, injured head, and shows signs he was struggling while on his back. These are all signs of being the victim, not the aggressor.


No sir.  Those are signs that he was on the losing end of a fight.  A gun may make you feel tough but it doesn't make you tough.
 
2013-05-26 06:21:48 PM

FloridaFarkTag: LegacyDL: So by that logic if the kid was a drunk abusive Irish man that beat his wife it would be okay to shoot him as well.

When did text messages become de facto proof that warrants killing people?

Calling yourself "No Limit Ni--a" on twitter don't help either


Can you please present guidelines as to what kind of online rhetoric is justification for a person's cold-blooded murder?
 
2013-05-26 06:22:47 PM

tyrajam: The fact that he likes his weed is irrelevant to the case. The fact that he was having online conversations about purple drank, it was found in his system, and he was returning after buying 2 of the 3 ingredients used to make it does help explain why he was so aggressive and attacked the little mexican guy who ended up shooting him in self defense.


All of which is irrelevant if Zimmerman doesn't follow him for no reason and confront him
 
2013-05-26 06:23:39 PM

gimmegimme: FloridaFarkTag: LegacyDL: So by that logic if the kid was a drunk abusive Irish man that beat his wife it would be okay to shoot him as well.

When did text messages become de facto proof that warrants killing people?

Calling yourself "No Limit Ni--a" on twitter don't help either

Can you please present guidelines as to what kind of online rhetoric is justification for a person's cold-blooded murder?


Who said it was a murder?
 
2013-05-26 06:24:13 PM

gimmegimme: Why was Zimmerman following Martin? Under what authority did he engage in an armed pursuit?


weird questions.
since when do you need authority to follow someone?
 
2013-05-26 06:24:24 PM
And yet the fat white guy with the jumpy trigger finger odds the Jeep on this story?

/either this is a stunt from his lawyers to gain sympathy from the judge/jury, or he's got a shiatty defence, I can't decide
 
2013-05-26 06:24:43 PM

duffblue: gimmegimme: FloridaFarkTag: MJMaloney187: Wait? Does the article say the defense was allowed to use all that? I thought the article said the hearing was next week ...

No, it has yet to be allowed

Some of it will be allowed. This judge will be overturned on appeal if evidence is not allowed and Zimmerman is convicted....esp any evidence showing TM stoned around the time of incident, pot use, and any time the prosecutors spew the "Trayvon was a 14 yr old honor student" BS

It is obvious that the prosecution is in trouble.... they want all the negative Trayvon evidence excluded....you can't lynch an innocent man if you are caught cold busted lying

Just wonder how much of their ghetto the Black Racists gonna burn when they can't lynch Zimmerman...

Ted Nugent isn't black...

You probably aren't old enough to remember the Rodney king riots


Are you aware that there are riots caused by non-blah people?

seadoo2006: I believe having a CCW makes anything an 'armed pursuit' ...


You didn't answer my questions.  Why was Zimmerman following Martin?  Under what authority did he engage in an armed pursuit?
 
2013-05-26 06:24:45 PM

Peter von Nostrand: tyrajam: The fact that he likes his weed is irrelevant to the case. The fact that he was having online conversations about purple drank, it was found in his system, and he was returning after buying 2 of the 3 ingredients used to make it does help explain why he was so aggressive and attacked the little mexican guy who ended up shooting him in self defense.

All of which is irrelevant if Zimmerman doesn't follow him for no reason and confront him



But really who can say who chased who with a gun at this point.  Coulda been Martin on the phone with 911 stalking Zim.
 
2013-05-26 06:24:50 PM

Peter von Nostrand: tyrajam: The fact that he likes his weed is irrelevant to the case. The fact that he was having online conversations about purple drank, it was found in his system, and he was returning after buying 2 of the 3 ingredients used to make it does help explain why he was so aggressive and attacked the little mexican guy who ended up shooting him in self defense.

All of which is irrelevant if Zimmerman doesn't follow him for no reason and confront him


So it's acceptable to assault somebody who confronts you?
 
2013-05-26 06:25:40 PM
I can't believe there are still Zimmerman fanboys.
 
2013-05-26 06:26:19 PM
shiat, I thought he'd already gotten off with that defense.
 
2013-05-26 06:26:21 PM

duffblue: Peter von Nostrand: tyrajam: The fact that he likes his weed is irrelevant to the case. The fact that he was having online conversations about purple drank, it was found in his system, and he was returning after buying 2 of the 3 ingredients used to make it does help explain why he was so aggressive and attacked the little mexican guy who ended up shooting him in self defense.

All of which is irrelevant if Zimmerman doesn't follow him for no reason and confront him

So it's acceptable to assault somebody who confronts you?



Nah, wait til the stranger in a dark parking lot gets a shot off.
 
2013-05-26 06:26:31 PM
Trayvon had a picture of a gun on his phone, so now the defense is going to try to infer that he owned a gun? Well, I have a picture of a 12 inch dick on my iPhone, so I must be Peter North!

Since he had gold teeth, Trayvon must have also been a hoodlum! Quick, someone stop Ke$ha before she robs a 7-11!

Good lord, there's even video of him fighting in the schoolyard, which no other teenage boy does - ever!

Well, based on this totally non-circumstantial evidence that was totally not a fishing expedition and delay tactic, it's obvious that Zimmerman totally gave that thug what he deserved, because that's what a tough, virile lawman that gets all the ladies moist does!
 
2013-05-26 06:26:56 PM

duffblue: gimmegimme: FloridaFarkTag: LegacyDL: So by that logic if the kid was a drunk abusive Irish man that beat his wife it would be okay to shoot him as well.

When did text messages become de facto proof that warrants killing people?

Calling yourself "No Limit Ni--a" on twitter don't help either

Can you please present guidelines as to what kind of online rhetoric is justification for a person's cold-blooded murder?

Who said it was a murder?


Wow, all of the Zimknobslobberers are being evasive tonight.  I'll rephrase to try and get an answer.

Can you please present guidelines as to what kind of online rhetoric is justification for a person's death caused by some means?

tenpoundsofcheese: gimmegimme: Why was Zimmerman following Martin? Under what authority did he engage in an armed pursuit?

weird questions.
since when do you need authority to follow someone?


You're really denying that Zim was playing police officer?
 
2013-05-26 06:27:01 PM

Abox: ChaosStar: Zimmerman then suffers a broken nose, injured head, and shows signs he was struggling while on his back. These are all signs of being the victim, not the aggressor.

No sir.  Those are signs that he was on the losing end of a fight.  A gun may make you feel tough but it doesn't make you tough.


The gun certainly made Martin a lot weaker didn't it? It's a force multiplier so, yeah, it does make you tougher in that you can use it to walk away from a situation that an unarmed person wouldn't live through.

Being on the losing side of a fight, where you're getting your head bashed open, is grounds for escalation of force when defending yourself, as you are in fear for your life. Especially when you didn't start said fight.
 
2013-05-26 06:27:44 PM

gimmegimme: duffblue: gimmegimme: FloridaFarkTag: MJMaloney187: Wait? Does the article say the defense was allowed to use all that? I thought the article said the hearing was next week ...

No, it has yet to be allowed

Some of it will be allowed. This judge will be overturned on appeal if evidence is not allowed and Zimmerman is convicted....esp any evidence showing TM stoned around the time of incident, pot use, and any time the prosecutors spew the "Trayvon was a 14 yr old honor student" BS

It is obvious that the prosecution is in trouble.... they want all the negative Trayvon evidence excluded....you can't lynch an innocent man if you are caught cold busted lying

Just wonder how much of their ghetto the Black Racists gonna burn when they can't lynch Zimmerman...

Ted Nugent isn't black...

You probably aren't old enough to remember the Rodney king riots

Are you aware that there are riots caused by non-blah people?

seadoo2006: I believe having a CCW makes anything an 'armed pursuit' ...

You didn't answer my questions.  Why was Zimmerman following Martin?  Under what authority did he engage in an armed pursuit?


No shiat sherlock, why would I talk about soccer riots though?
 
2013-05-26 06:28:01 PM

duffblue: Peter von Nostrand: tyrajam: The fact that he likes his weed is irrelevant to the case. The fact that he was having online conversations about purple drank, it was found in his system, and he was returning after buying 2 of the 3 ingredients used to make it does help explain why he was so aggressive and attacked the little mexican guy who ended up shooting him in self defense.

All of which is irrelevant if Zimmerman doesn't follow him for no reason and confront him

So it's acceptable to assault somebody who confronts you?


Is it acceptable to assault someone you are confronting?
 
2013-05-26 06:28:13 PM

duffblue: Peter von Nostrand: tyrajam: The fact that he likes his weed is irrelevant to the case. The fact that he was having online conversations about purple drank, it was found in his system, and he was returning after buying 2 of the 3 ingredients used to make it does help explain why he was so aggressive and attacked the little mexican guy who ended up shooting him in self defense.

All of which is irrelevant if Zimmerman doesn't follow him for no reason and confront him

So it's acceptable to assault somebody who confronts you?


You'd think this was painfully obvious by now, but we have only Zimmerman's word for it that Martin struck first, and its possible he has some motivation for lying in this regard...
 
2013-05-26 06:28:25 PM

ChaosStar: Especially when you didn't start said fight.


Sorry, I didn't realize the trial was over.
 
2013-05-26 06:29:10 PM

gimmegimme: duffblue: gimmegimme: FloridaFarkTag: MJMaloney187: Wait? Does the article say the defense was allowed to use all that? I thought the article said the hearing was next week ...

No, it has yet to be allowed

Some of it will be allowed. This judge will be overturned on appeal if evidence is not allowed and Zimmerman is convicted....esp any evidence showing TM stoned around the time of incident, pot use, and any time the prosecutors spew the "Trayvon was a 14 yr old honor student" BS

It is obvious that the prosecution is in trouble.... they want all the negative Trayvon evidence excluded....you can't lynch an innocent man if you are caught cold busted lying

Just wonder how much of their ghetto the Black Racists gonna burn when they can't lynch Zimmerman...

Ted Nugent isn't black...

You probably aren't old enough to remember the Rodney king riots

Are you aware that there are riots caused by non-blah people?

seadoo2006: I believe having a CCW makes anything an 'armed pursuit' ...

You didn't answer my questions.  Why was Zimmerman following Martin?


It doesn't matter.  Unless you have a restraining order, you are allowed to follow people in this country.

Under what authority did he engage in an armed pursuit?

It doesn't matter.  He had authority to be armed (I assume he had a license to be armed), you don't anyone's authority to pursuit (aka follow) someone.
 
2013-05-26 06:29:22 PM

Peter von Nostrand: duffblue: Peter von Nostrand: tyrajam: The fact that he likes his weed is irrelevant to the case. The fact that he was having online conversations about purple drank, it was found in his system, and he was returning after buying 2 of the 3 ingredients used to make it does help explain why he was so aggressive and attacked the little mexican guy who ended up shooting him in self defense.

All of which is irrelevant if Zimmerman doesn't follow him for no reason and confront him

So it's acceptable to assault somebody who confronts you?

Is it acceptable to assault someone you are confronting?


Is it acceptable to shoot someone you've been stalking and hunting for no reason after being told by 911 to go home?
 
2013-05-26 06:29:25 PM

Wolf_Blitzer: duffblue: Peter von Nostrand: tyrajam: The fact that he likes his weed is irrelevant to the case. The fact that he was having online conversations about purple drank, it was found in his system, and he was returning after buying 2 of the 3 ingredients used to make it does help explain why he was so aggressive and attacked the little mexican guy who ended up shooting him in self defense.

All of which is irrelevant if Zimmerman doesn't follow him for no reason and confront him

So it's acceptable to assault somebody who confronts you?

You'd think this was painfully obvious by now, but we have only Zimmerman's word for it that Martin struck first, and its possible he has some motivation for lying in this regard...


Hence reasonable doubt
 
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