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(Some Guy)   Isle of Man government develops Android app, which citizens cannot download from Google Play to devices because Google doesn't recognize their country. Time to send a strongly worded letter to the UN urging invasion of Google   (isleofman.com) divider line 40
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2013-05-26 03:48:13 PM
This is one of those goofy "We are subject to the British Crown but not part of the UK" things, that's a holdover from the 15th century.
 
2013-05-26 03:48:20 PM
 
2013-05-26 03:48:39 PM
They sponsor a bike in the Isle of Man TT FFS...
 
2013-05-26 03:53:45 PM

FrancoFile: This is one of those goofy "We are subject to the British Crown but not part of the UK" things, that's a holdover from the 15th century.


Really?  I'll have to follow up on that factoid.

/Could be a Jeopardy question someday.
 
2013-05-26 03:56:17 PM
Flight leaves tomorrow. Grandstand tickets for the supersport/superstock race day booked. Can't. Farking. Wait.
 
2013-05-26 03:58:48 PM
Maybe they should get Israel to build some illegal settlements on their island.
 
2013-05-26 04:10:59 PM
In the Isle of Man you're allowed to shoot a Scotsman if he's within 20' of the sea shore.
 
2013-05-26 04:15:08 PM
Why does Google care where the phone is?  Why do they not recognize Isle of Man?  Where is Buttercup?
 
2013-05-26 04:26:48 PM

inert: Flight leaves tomorrow. Grandstand tickets for the supersport/superstock race day booked. Can't. Farking. Wait.


I hate you.

/not really
//slightly jealous
///have a great time
 
2013-05-26 04:46:17 PM
Love how the news story just assumes everyone knows what a "TT" is. Thanks to inert's post, I now know it's some kind of race.

The article implies Google's being a bad guy by not recognizing them. A quick Google search found nearly no organizations/nations outside the UK who do recognize them. Even the (British) Commonwealth of Nations says they aren't a nation.

I'm not sure Google is the one with the problem here.
 
2013-05-26 04:47:49 PM

czetie: Maybe they should get Israel to build some illegal settlements on their island.


I work hard to bait people with "stupid" comments.
I think you did it by accident.
 
2013-05-26 04:49:54 PM

flaminio: CGP Grey explains the United Kingdom
/still confused...


If you think that's confusing then the fact that France and the Netherlands share a land border (even though Belgium is in the way) will blow your mind.
 
2013-05-26 04:58:44 PM
www.cia.gov

www.searchviews.com
 
2013-05-26 05:13:44 PM
You can't invade Google because Google is a "non-state actor".

You need, instead, to get cooperative government agencies to arrest key members of the Google hierarchy.

And if they are hiding themselves in countries who are not cooperating with their seizure, then you need to either take them with covert forces or assassinate them with drones.
 
2013-05-26 06:01:14 PM

Beowoolfie: The article implies Google's being a bad guy by not recognizing them. A quick Google search found nearly no organizations/nations outside the UK who do recognize them. Even the (British) Commonwealth of Nations says they aren't a nation.


They aren't. They're a crown dependency. They elect their own government and pass their own laws (with royal assent), they print their own currency (backed by sterling) and are separate entities from the UK, but they can't enter into any foreign relations or international organisations or treaties on their own. So no, from a political standpoint they aren't a nation and won't be on a list of them.

From a business standpoint, however, they are a place with customers in and should be recognised, even if the company policy is to lump them in with the UK. In which case any products of Manx interest should be open to the UK to avoid this sort of embarrassment.
 
2013-05-26 06:04:42 PM
beautiful island. just avoid it during TT fortnight!

/brother lives in IOM
//so does aunt
 
2013-05-26 06:31:08 PM
simple solution..

when downloading app, instead of "Isle of Man"

choose New Jersey or Texas on the dropdown menu

problem solved

/you're welcome
 
2013-05-26 07:17:14 PM
But does Google recognize Whore Island?
 
2013-05-26 08:09:26 PM
i.imgur.com

/it's much better than Lesbos
 
2013-05-26 08:17:45 PM

Beowoolfie: Love how the news story just assumes everyone knows what a "TT" is. Thanks to inert's post, I now know it's some kind of race.


I know huh?  Not like anybody outside of the UK would know anything about some stupid two week long yearly roadrace that's only been running consistently on the island since 1907.  I mean what's a paltry 107 years of history?  I mean... it's only the oldest motorsports roadrace in history.
 
2013-05-26 08:20:25 PM

flaminio: CGP Grey explains the United Kingdom
/still confused...


Huh. I saw the link, clicked, watched, and came back here to post your slashie myself.
 
2013-05-26 08:22:27 PM
I can only imagine how difficult it would be if you were from the Isle of Langerhans.
 
2013-05-26 08:55:56 PM

moike: Beowoolfie: Love how the news story just assumes everyone knows what a "TT" is. Thanks to inert's post, I now know it's some kind of race.

I know huh?  Not like anybody outside of the UK would know anything about some stupid two week long yearly roadrace that's only been running consistently on the island since 1907.  I mean what's a paltry 107 years of history?  I mean... it's only the oldest motorsports roadrace in history.


You have to remember, in America, if it's not NASCAR or drag racing, most people have no idea that it exists. For those who don't know, not only is the IOM TT the oldest road race, it's also the most bugfark craziest. It terrifies Formula 1 drivers who are only watching it. The people who have the stones to do it are not entirely human. Though one former TT racer is quickly becoming Huell Howser with a British accent.
 
2013-05-26 09:15:18 PM

LectertheChef: moike: Beowoolfie: Love how the news story just assumes everyone knows what a "TT" is. Thanks to inert's post, I now know it's some kind of race.

I know huh?  Not like anybody outside of the UK would know anything about some stupid two week long yearly roadrace that's only been running consistently on the island since 1907.  I mean what's a paltry 107 years of history?  I mean... it's only the oldest motorsports roadrace in history.

You have to remember, in America, if it's not NASCAR or drag racing, most people have no idea that it exists. For those who don't know, not only is the IOM TT the oldest road race, it's also the most bugfark craziest. It terrifies Formula 1 drivers who are only watching it. The people who have the stones to do it are not entirely human. Though one former TT racer is quickly becoming Huell Howser with a British accent.


Or, you know, most people don't like motorsports in general. 'I can watch someone make left turns all day' is only vaguely more interesting than 'I can watch someone make left OR right turns all day'.

Only car related show I enjoy is top gear uk, and it's barely car related.

And I say the above as someone deeply in lust with his motorcycle. It's my favorite thing to do but hell, it's not really interesting to watch man. It's a precision activity at that level that is meh.
 
2013-05-26 09:18:45 PM

moike: Beowoolfie: Love how the news story just assumes everyone knows what a "TT" is. Thanks to inert's post, I now know it's some kind of race.

I know huh?  Not like anybody outside of the UK would know anything about some stupid two week long yearly roadrace that's only been running consistently on the island since 1907.  I mean what's a paltry 107 years of history?  I mean... it's only the oldest motorsports roadrace in history.


Are you implying that a relatively non-popular sporting event taking place on a tiny island (that is only known because some rich people become citizens of after renouncing their American citizenship) should be common knowledge because it is old? That seems reasonable.

You excited about the CC this year in Scotland? It IS 134 years old after all.
 
2013-05-26 09:37:36 PM

moike: Beowoolfie: Love how the news story just assumes everyone knows what a "TT" is. Thanks to inert's post, I now know it's some kind of race.

I know huh?  Not like anybody outside of the UK would know anything about some stupid two week long yearly roadrace that's only been running consistently on the island since 1907.  I mean what's a paltry 107 years of history?  I mean... it's only the oldest motorsports roadrace in history.


Um, okay now I know it's a "motorsports roadrace" that's been running practically since internal combustion was invented. That's kinda cool. Thanks for the factoid.

Sorry if my lack of interest in auto racing disturbs you. The only ones I can think of offhand are the Indy 500, the Grand Prix series, and a movie reference to something called the "Winston 500", but I don't know what kind of race that is, either. I have a vague childhood memory of being at a drag race once. Oh, and there's that motorcycle race Hunter Thompson covered in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, but I can't remember its name right now.
 
2013-05-26 09:43:24 PM

kroonermanblack: Only car related show I enjoy is top gear uk, and it's barely car related.


It saddens me that you even have to add that qualifier.
 
2013-05-26 10:56:47 PM

Norfolking Chance: flaminio: CGP Grey explains the United Kingdom
/still confused...

If you think that's confusing then the fact that France and the Netherlands share a land border (even though Belgium is in the way) will blow your mind.


Also, France and Brazil.
 
2013-05-27 12:20:27 AM
I hear their cats tell no tales.
 
2013-05-27 12:57:46 AM

jehovahs witness protection: czetie: Maybe they should get Israel to build some illegal settlements on their island.

I work hard to bait people with "stupid" comments.
I think you did it by accident.


No you don't.
 
2013-05-27 02:19:56 AM

moike: Beowoolfie: Love how the news story just assumes everyone knows what a "TT" is. Thanks to inert's post, I now know it's some kind of race.

I know huh?  Not like anybody outside of the UK would know anything about some stupid two week long yearly roadrace that's only been running consistently on the island since 1907.  I mean what's a paltry 107 years of history?  I mean... it's only the oldest motorsports roadrace in history.


*googles "TT"*

Wow! A sporting event in which 239 people have died, for an average of over 2 deaths every event!  That sounds fun and I am ashamed my mother didn't teach me all about it when I was still hanging on to her skirts!
 
2013-05-27 02:22:48 AM

Moopy Mac: You excited about the CC this year in Scotland? It IS 134 years old after all.


I don't know what a CC is, but have 239 people died doing it? If 239 people haven't died, it's CRAAAP!
 
2013-05-27 02:35:09 AM

derpy: Moopy Mac: You excited about the CC this year in Scotland? It IS 134 years old after all.

I don't know what a CC is, but have 239 people died doing it? If 239 people haven't died, it's CRAAAP!


barfblog.com
 
2013-05-27 09:43:30 AM

derpy: Wow! A sporting event in which 239 people have died, for an average of over 2 deaths every event!  That sounds fun and I am ashamed my mother didn't teach me all about it when I was still hanging on to her skirts!


better yet - in the middle of the two-week event, they have a thing called "mad sunday," in which ANYONE with a motorcycle can sign a waiver and race the course. think about that for a second....
 
2013-05-27 04:11:29 PM
Why would this matter on a free app?  Just set it so anyone can download it, no matter their region.

/also why doesn't Google recognize Isle of Man?  It has its own top level domain since 1996
 
2013-05-27 06:01:16 PM

derpy: moike: Beowoolfie: Love how the news story just assumes everyone knows what a "TT" is. Thanks to inert's post, I now know it's some kind of race.

I know huh?  Not like anybody outside of the UK would know anything about some stupid two week long yearly roadrace that's only been running consistently on the island since 1907.  I mean what's a paltry 107 years of history?  I mean... it's only the oldest motorsports roadrace in history.

*googles "TT"*

Wow! A sporting event in which 239 people have died, for an average of over 2 deaths every event!  That sounds fun and I am ashamed my mother didn't teach me all about it when I was still hanging on to her skirts!


You sound boring...
 
2013-05-27 06:08:33 PM
kroonermanblack:

Or, you know, most people don't like motorsports in general. 'I can watch someone make left turns all day' is only vaguely more interesting than 'I can watch someone make left OR right turns all day'.

You're obviously unaware that no other sport comes even remotely close to the spectator attendance numbers of Formula 1, MotoGP, or even NASCAR.

Wake me up when baseball, football, or soccer gets exciting enough to draw over 200k spectators to an event.
 
2013-05-27 06:51:38 PM

moike: kroonermanblack:

Or, you know, most people don't like motorsports in general. 'I can watch someone make left turns all day' is only vaguely more interesting than 'I can watch someone make left OR right turns all day'.

You're obviously unaware that no other sport comes even remotely close to the spectator attendance numbers of Formula 1, MotoGP, or even NASCAR.

Wake me up when baseball, football, or soccer gets exciting enough to draw over 200k spectators to an event.


Wake me up when somebody figures out how to build a stadium with 200k spectators with decent views of a baseball, football, or soccer field.

Annual attendance at all MLB is 20 times larger than annual attendance at all NASCAR.  NLF is 5 times larger.
 
2013-05-27 07:05:58 PM

ha-ha-guy: Why would this matter on a free app?  Just set it so anyone can download it, no matter their region.

/also why doesn't Google recognize Isle of Man?  It has its own top level domain since 1996


There really are a lot of Not Independent dependencies that have their own TLDs.  There's a TLD for American Samoa (almost in the same situation as the Isle of Man, except that there is not an American Samoa Dollar...then again the UK is a bit odd in that manner as there are technically Scotland Pounds and Northern Ireland Pounds that are linked to the Pound Sterling).   Saint Helena (which is about as far as one can get to BFE, Earth as is possible) has its own TLD.  Pitcairn Island (which only had about 48 people on it at last count) has its own TLD.  LOTS of little pissant island dependencies have their own TLD.

Hell, there are TLDs for countries that effectively no longer exist.  The old .su domain is STILL in existence fully twenty years after the Soviet Union ceased to exist.  Somalia still has a TLD despite the fact no functional government has existed there since 1992 (the TLD is technically owned by the transitional government, but most of the actual internet connectivity is in Somaliland and Puntland--neither of which are recognised as countries internationally de jure and neither of which have TLDs).

There are TLDs for which no authority is issuing domain names--Eritrea has .er assigned but its domain assigning authority doesn't actually ISSUE any .er domain names.  .kp (North Korea's domain) functionally only exists as one server in Japan used for propaganda purposes (North Korea itself relies on a whitelist-based intranet for the very few universities and Internet feeds for "Loyal Party members", and apparently there is no such thing as an ISP much less unfiltered Internet access actually available in Best Korea at this time...thus making it probably the most isolated country in the world from the Internet at large).  There are a metric shiatload of Norwegian dependencies (including Svalbard and Bouvet Islands) that have their own TLDs but for which new domain names are not issued (generally they go with .no instead).

There are even TLDs for which no routable domain has ever been issued--.dd was a TLD for East Germany that still remains on the books despite the fact that no domains in that TLD were ever issued.  The Western Sahara technically has a TLD despite not being recognised by any world government (and apparently no .eh domain has ever been issued).

There are even weirder situations still...Timor Leste actually has two TLDs (the newer .tl is technically the "proper" assignment for new domains, but the older .tp issued shortly after independence is still used extensively).  Puerto Rico has a TLD (.pr) that is still quite active despite the fact that it actually voted for statehood last November (it's not entirely certain what will happen to .pr once statehood gets ratified).  Taiwan has a TLD despite the fact that no country formally recognises it as the government of China (unofficially is a whole different matter, though).

And finally there are even TLDs for places for which no permanent human population exists.  There's a TLD for Antarctica despite the fact that Antarctica has no government or permanent population (they reserve the .aq domain for the various national bases that are using the continent together in peace); the French Southern and Antarctic Lands have a TLD (.tf) despite the fact that it covers a handful of islands that might have 100 people working in research and military stations there (and which explicitly does not include a French base in Antarctica in what would have been the "French Sector" of that continent had not all national claims been held in abeyance due to the Antarctic Treaty of 1958).  Until 2008 a TLD existed for the US Minor Outlying Islands (.um)--which were pretty much a mess of teeny-tiny islands in the Pacific primarily used as military bases during World War II and the Cold War; they were depopulated after the Cold War ended and are by and large now part of a big-ass national monument-slash-national wildlife refuge managed by the Department of the Interior.  (It was finally abandoned after the US Department of Commerce kindly informed ICANN that the reason they'd not had registration in .um for some time was because nobody lived on those islands anymore and to please delete .um from the root zone kthx.)
 
2013-05-27 07:15:05 PM
Oh, and an even BETTER example of Wacky TLD Hijinks--the Heard and McDonald Islands (a bunch of completely uninhabited islands roughly equidistant between Australia, South Africa and Antarctica and which is technically an Australian possession) actually have a TLD (of .hm)...despite not having a permanent or even TEMPORARY population or even a harbor, and despite the fact that the islands in question are basically volcanic seamounts mostly useful for seabirds and elephant seals (might make a hell of a place for a DXPedition, though, hehe...assuming you could get there, that is).

Not even Australia uses the .hm domain for the Heard and McDonald Islands (it actually uses a domain in ANTARCTICA's TLD for its info site)--yet an .hm domain registry exists, primarily as a vanity domain (but apparently offering free domain registration for environmental and conservation groups related to the Islands).
 
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