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(DFW Star-Telegram)   If you're going to pass yourself off as a high-ranking military official, you probably shouldn't try to offer the Fort Worth Police Chief a White House tour. Scary tag for just how close this guy got to certain installations   (star-telegram.com) divider line 89
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2013-05-26 09:39:00 AM
Halstead, who had worked with high-ranking military officers while with the Phoenix Police Department, said he believed that something was amiss.

McDowell's uniform seemed ill-fitting. He smelled heavily of cigarettes. A challenge coin  that McDowell presented to prove his military membership came in a case that looked old and worn.


While this Chief turned out to be correct, the stuff that he claims tipped him off seems kinda iffy. Lots of military guys smoke, the uniform not fitting perfectly? Not sure on that one, and the challenge coin case just seems like a 'so what' kind of thing.
 
2013-05-26 09:50:46 AM
McDowell, 57, has never been in the military. Neither had his father - actually an Irving evangelist who died in 1985 while leading a revival in California.

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/05/25/4884594/fort-worth-police-say - colonel.html#storylink=cpy
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
 
2013-05-26 10:51:57 AM
"His father was actually an evangelist who had died in 1985."

And there you go. Why is it, the most mentally disturbed people are always the offspring of religious leaders?
 
2013-05-26 11:13:31 AM

Godscrack: "His father was actually an evangelist who had died in 1985."

And there you go. Why is it, the most mentally disturbed people are always the offspring of religious leaders?


Mentally disturbed?  No.  Well-trained and innately talented liars.

Why, indeed.
 
2013-05-26 01:05:19 PM
media.star-telegram.com

He has a goatee, which isn't authorized.  He's also wearing infantry branch lapel insignia (the crossed rifles), with a Special Forces tab (the blue and gold tab sewn to his shoulder).  Special Forces officers wear crossed arrows.  I'm not 100% sure, but I think generals stop wearing branch insignia entirely.

media.star-telegram.com

His unit awards (the larger ribbons above his nametag) should be on a bar to keep them neat and orderly, and you're only authorized three in a row.  The fourth should be on another row on top.  He also has a ton of Good Conduct Medal ribbons (the red ribbon with the white vertical stripes on the ends, with a bronze bar across it).  The GCM is only awarded to enlisted soldiers, and not officers.

He also has a Combat Infantryman Badge with two stars, designated it has been awarded three times (the original badge, and the first and second star signify three awards), which means he had to have fought in three separate wars, and the Army will only give it to you once for fighting in both Iraq and Afghanistan.  I don't think there's a single soldier on active duty with a CIB with two stars.  He also only has two campaign medals, which basically means he's only been in two combat zones.  The Kosovo Campaign Medal (the assymetric red & blue ribbon), and ones for the first Gulf War (the ones in the bottom right corner).  He also does not have either an Iraq Campaign Medal or an Afghanistan Campaign Medal.  Very odd for an active-duty infantry or Special Forces officer.
 
2013-05-26 02:20:54 PM

Sgt Otter: [media.star-telegram.com image 362x600]

He has a goatee, which isn't authorized.  He's also wearing infantry branch lapel insignia (the crossed rifles), with a Special Forces tab (the blue and gold tab sewn to his shoulder).  Special Forces officers wear crossed arrows.  I'm not 100% sure, but I think generals stop wearing branch insignia entirely.

[media.star-telegram.com image 600x448]

His unit awards (the larger ribbons above his nametag) should be on a bar to keep them neat and orderly, and you're only authorized three in a row.  The fourth should be on another row on top.  He also has a ton of Good Conduct Medal ribbons (the red ribbon with the white vertical stripes on the ends, with a bronze bar across it).  The GCM is only awarded to enlisted soldiers, and not officers.

He also has a Combat Infantryman Badge with two stars, designated it has been awarded three times (the original badge, and the first and second star signify three awards), which means he had to have fought in three separate wars, and the Army will only give it to you once for fighting in both Iraq and Afghanistan.  I don't think there's a single soldier on active duty with a CIB with two stars.  He also only has two campaign medals, which basically means he's only been in two combat zones.  The Kosovo Campaign Medal (the assymetric red & blue ribbon), and ones for the first Gulf War (the ones in the bottom right corner).  He also does not have either an Iraq Campaign Medal or an Afghanistan Campaign Medal.  Very odd for an active-duty infantry or Special Forces officer.


I half expected there to be a tin sheriff's badge on there somewhere
 
2013-05-26 02:22:31 PM
I just hope he didn't return a salute from a higher-ranking officer.  That's a felony.
 
2013-05-26 02:22:55 PM
The first clue should have been the White House tour. Everybody knows that Obama, the illuminati, Freemasons and the sequester stopped the tours of the White House.

/ the lizard and mole people were busy planting fake birth certificates

// I keed, I keed
 
2013-05-26 02:25:57 PM
I'm just here for the movie references.


/and the White House party-crashers
 
2013-05-26 02:36:08 PM
Who cares. No victim. No Crime
 
2013-05-26 02:36:25 PM

gimmegimme: I just hope he didn't return a salute from a higher-ranking officer.  That's a felony.


Is it really? I know very little about military stuffs. So not sure if you're joking or not.
 
2013-05-26 02:36:55 PM
I go to the Pentagon on official business all the time, in the correct uniform, and with proper credentials and still get the TSA watch list treatment.  There's no way this asshat could have just wandered in without being sniffed out.  As for the White House, fahgeddaboutit.
 
2013-05-26 02:38:33 PM

Lady Indica: gimmegimme: I just hope he didn't return a salute from a higher-ranking officer.  That's a felony.

Is it really? I know very little about military stuffs. So not sure if you're joking or not.


I made a joke based upon a thread from earlier today and another from yesterday.  The gentleman who made that claim has no proof to support his assertion, but that's what he was told, so it must be true.
 
2013-05-26 02:39:15 PM
And they just passed the stolen valor act...

Douchebag is going to get smoked.
 
2013-05-26 02:41:54 PM
"Scary tag for just how close this guy got to certain installations "

I never thought of "none" as particularly alarming
 
2013-05-26 02:42:09 PM

Sgt Otter: I'm not 100% sure, but I think generals stop wearing branch insignia entirely.


That is the case with Navy shoulder boards and command pins.
 
2013-05-26 02:46:15 PM

gimmegimme: Lady Indica: gimmegimme: I just hope he didn't return a salute from a higher-ranking officer.  That's a felony.

Is it really? I know very little about military stuffs. So not sure if you're joking or not.

I made a joke based upon a thread from earlier today and another from yesterday.  The gentleman who made that claim has no proof to support his assertion, but that's what he was told, so it must be true.


Well played (and thanks!)
 
2013-05-26 02:51:07 PM

gimmegimme: Lady Indica: gimmegimme: I just hope he didn't return a salute from a higher-ranking officer.  That's a felony.

Is it really? I know very little about military stuffs. So not sure if you're joking or not.

I made a joke based upon a thread from earlier today and another from yesterday.  The gentleman who made that claim has no proof to support his assertion, but that's what he was told, so it must be true.


I'm going to say no. Besides, a higher ranking officer wouldn't initiate the salute for him to return. So the logic of it just isn't there.
 
2013-05-26 02:51:19 PM

Sgt Otter: [media.star-telegram.com image 362x600]

He has a goatee, which isn't authorized.  He's also wearing infantry branch lapel insignia (the crossed rifles), with a Special Forces tab (the blue and gold tab sewn to his shoulder).  Special Forces officers wear crossed arrows.  I'm not 100% sure, but I think generals stop wearing branch insignia entirely.

[media.star-telegram.com image 600x448]

His unit awards (the larger ribbons above his nametag) should be on a bar to keep them neat and orderly, and you're only authorized three in a row.  The fourth should be on another row on top.  He also has a ton of Good Conduct Medal ribbons (the red ribbon with the white vertical stripes on the ends, with a bronze bar across it).  The GCM is only awarded to enlisted soldiers, and not officers.

He also has a Combat Infantryman Badge with two stars, designated it has been awarded three times (the original badge, and the first and second star signify three awards), which means he had to have fought in three separate wars, and the Army will only give it to you once for fighting in both Iraq and Afghanistan.  I don't think there's a single soldier on active duty with a CIB with two stars.  He also only has two campaign medals, which basically means he's only been in two combat zones.  The Kosovo Campaign Medal (the assymetric red & blue ribbon), and ones for the first Gulf War (the ones in the bottom right corner).  He also does not have either an Iraq Campaign Medal or an Afghanistan Campaign Medal.  Very odd for an active-duty infantry or Special Forces officer.


Hmm.  When it comes to pointing up the holes in his persona, I was more influenced by the fact that HE NEVER SERVED.
 
2013-05-26 02:56:52 PM
So put him in the military instead of jail. Win win situation.
 
2013-05-26 03:00:20 PM
Oh well, he can always open his own burger joint

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2013-05-26 03:01:56 PM
All that's missing is the Alderaanian Medal of Freedom, and he's all set!
 
2013-05-26 03:06:41 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Sgt Otter: [media.star-telegram.com image 362x600]

He has a goatee, which isn't authorized.  He's also wearing infantry branch lapel insignia (the crossed rifles), with a Special Forces tab (the blue and gold tab sewn to his shoulder).  Special Forces officers wear crossed arrows.  I'm not 100% sure, but I think generals stop wearing branch insignia entirely.

[media.star-telegram.com image 600x448]

He also does not have either an Iraq Campaign Medal or an Afghanistan Campaign Medal.  Very odd for an active-duty infantry or Special Forces officer.

Hmm.  When it comes to pointing up the holes in his persona, I was more influenced by the fact that HE NEVER SERVED.


But it looks to me as though (sunglasses back on, hands on hips),  he's just *been* served....

YEEAAAAH.......
 
2013-05-26 03:07:35 PM

HighlanderRPI: Oh well, he can always open his own burger joint

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 305x165]


Fake military titles? Fast food? Shouldn't the joke be:
lexingtonhistory.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-05-26 03:11:49 PM

Sgt Otter: He also has a ton of Good Conduct Medal ribbons (the red ribbon with the white vertical stripes on the ends, with a bronze bar across it). The GCM is only awarded to enlisted soldiers, and not officers.


If he had earned it while enlisted, and was then commissioned, would he still wear it? (just curious, don't know the rules there)

Benevolent Misanthrope: He also only has two campaign medals, which basically means he's only been in two combat zones. The Kosovo Campaign Medal (the assymetric red & blue ribbon), and ones for the first Gulf War (the ones in the bottom right corner). He also does not have either an Iraq Campaign Medal or an Afghanistan Campaign Medal. Very odd for an active-duty infantry or Special Forces officer.


Does the campaign medal specifically mean serving in the combat zone? I thought there were occasions where they would issue a campaign medal to all personnel who were on active duty at some point during a conflict, regardless of where they served.

I also notice what looks like a Purple Heart ribbon with a star, which means multiple injury incidents. C'mon guy, don't get greedy. That ribbon means something to me. My great-grandfather was awarded Purple Hearts in both world wars, and died stateside from his injuries.
 
2013-05-26 03:12:49 PM

Mad Canadian: All that's missing is the Alderaanian Medal of Freedom, and he's all set!


Well that, and maybe a badge from an 'epic' FARK thread
 
2013-05-26 03:13:46 PM
How do you know the DIA wasn't feeding this guy stuff, just to show how necessary the DIA is?
 
2013-05-26 03:14:09 PM

SoupJohnB: Mad Canadian: All that's missing is the Alderaanian Medal of Freedom, and he's all set!

Well that, and maybe a badge from an 'epic' FARK thread


I think I saw him in the Wil Wheaton clown sweater thread...
 
2013-05-26 03:22:44 PM

gimmegimme: return a salute from a higher-ranking officer


I don't think it works that way.
 
2013-05-26 03:22:55 PM

Sgt Otter: [media.star-telegram.com image 362x600]

He has a goatee, which isn't authorized.  He's also wearing infantry branch lapel insignia (the crossed rifles), with a Special Forces tab (the blue and gold tab sewn to his shoulder).  Special Forces officers wear crossed arrows.  I'm not 100% sure, but I think generals stop wearing branch insignia entirely.

[media.star-telegram.com image 600x448]

His unit awards (the larger ribbons above his nametag) should be on a bar to keep them neat and orderly, and you're only authorized three in a row.  The fourth should be on another row on top.  He also has a ton of Good Conduct Medal ribbons (the red ribbon with the white vertical stripes on the ends, with a bronze bar across it).  The GCM is only awarded to enlisted soldiers, and not officers.

He also has a Combat Infantryman Badge with two stars, designated it has been awarded three times (the original badge, and the first and second star signify three awards), which means he had to have fought in three separate wars, and the Army will only give it to you once for fighting in both Iraq and Afghanistan.  I don't think there's a single soldier on active duty with a CIB with two stars.  He also only has two campaign medals, which basically means he's only been in two combat zones.  The Kosovo Campaign Medal (the assymetric red & blue ribbon), and ones for the first Gulf War (the ones in the bottom right corner).  He also does not have either an Iraq Campaign Medal or an Afghanistan Campaign Medal.  Very odd for an active-duty infantry or Special Forces officer.



If one goes overboard on the number & type of medals, I think they should go all the way...( make it epic)

www.nndb.com
 
2013-05-26 03:31:34 PM

KidneyStone: "Scary tag for just how close this guy got to certain installations "

I never thought of "none" as particularly alarming


You know how I know you didn't read the whole article?

"Investigators have uncovered evidence that McDowell acquired special access for at least one Fort Worth police association board member to tour the Washington Navy Yard when it was closed to the public."

If some nobody can get after-hours access to the home of the Chief of Naval Operations, then our security is not really up to scratch.
 
2013-05-26 03:33:32 PM
What the hell kind of action could these commies have seen?  These are the most absurd looking uniforms I've ever seen.

londonkoreanlinks.net
 
2013-05-26 03:33:53 PM

Jacob_Roberson: HighlanderRPI: Oh well, he can always open his own burger joint

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 305x165]

Fake military titles? Fast food? Shouldn't the joke be:
[lexingtonhistory.files.wordpress.com image 600x842]


 Title isn't fake - dates back to 1812 and is semi-military. The real Sanders was also a pretty good and hardworking guy.
 
2013-05-26 03:35:40 PM

Stinkyy: What the hell kind of action could these commies have seen?  These are the most absurd looking uniforms I've ever seen.

[londonkoreanlinks.net image 624x351]


Holy shiat that's HILARIOUS
 
2013-05-26 03:41:56 PM

Stinkyy: What the hell kind of action could these commies have seen?  These are the most absurd looking uniforms I've ever seen.

[londonkoreanlinks.net image 624x351]


Every time they threaten America (and let's face it, that's pretty often) they get a medal for defending the glorious republic. Military juntas are really quite delusional about how important they are.
 
2013-05-26 03:43:02 PM

Stinkyy: What the hell kind of action could these commies have seen?  These are the most absurd looking uniforms I've ever seen.


londonkoreanlinks.net

i0.kym-cdn.com

Still, not far off for some of these countries that haven't had any actual combat operations in decades.
 
2013-05-26 03:49:44 PM

Stinkyy: What the hell kind of action could these commies have seen?  These are the most absurd looking uniforms I've ever seen.

[londonkoreanlinks.net image 624x351]


Well, it's north korea. So, maybe the body armor is a little scarce...
 
2013-05-26 03:50:57 PM
CSB: no lies honest. This guy is my next door neighbor.

His girlfriend tried to commit suicide the other day. Got drunk and turned the car on in the garage. Had 5 police cars blocking my drive way with an ambulance. My guess is she learned his story from the FBI agents that came around the neighborhood asking about him and wearing his uniform.

He came up to me one day telling me he just got back from Afghanistan and that he was in a car accident and had been in rehab because Taliban had hit his car from behind and forced him into a cement divider.

I always wondered why an army general would live in my neighborhood.

He came over to my house one evening at 9 PM in his under wear asking if I was telling people he was a General.

I was like well Mike I only told them what you told me you were and I see you wearing your uniform and fatigues who am I to say you are not what you said you were.
 
2013-05-26 03:57:26 PM

HighlanderRPI: Oh well, he can always open his own burger joint

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 305x165]


No, he would have to be Col. Mustard.
 
2013-05-26 04:00:49 PM

doyner: I go to the Pentagon on official business all the time, in the correct uniform, and with proper credentials and still get the TSA watch list treatment.  There's no way this asshat could have just wandered in without being sniffed out.  As for the White House, fahgeddaboutit.


Well you may have noticed in the article that he coordinated the trip to the White House, but stopped short of actually going in himself, probably because he would have gotten called out by a real military person.

/What a nutcase.
 
2013-05-26 04:01:03 PM
FLYNavy - is that you?
 
2013-05-26 04:03:37 PM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: FLYNavy - is that you?


Don;t jump to conclusions.  It might be his wife.
 
2013-05-26 04:06:32 PM

Stinkyy: What the hell kind of action could these commies have seen?  These are the most absurd looking uniforms I've ever seen.

[londonkoreanlinks.net image 624x351]


They're FARK thread badges.
 
2013-05-26 04:12:24 PM
As a Corporal Captain in the US Army I'm outraged by this poser
 
2013-05-26 04:14:11 PM

Lady Indica: gimmegimme: Lady Indica: gimmegimme: I just hope he didn't return a salute from a higher-ranking officer.  That's a felony.

Is it really? I know very little about military stuffs. So not sure if you're joking or not.

I made a joke based upon a thread from earlier today and another from yesterday.  The gentleman who made that claim has no proof to support his assertion, but that's what he was told, so it must be true.

Well played (and thanks!)


He's misrepresenting it. It's illegal for a civilian or contractor with access to return salutes (which by definition is from lower-ranking people). I worked for the Navy and that's the warning they gave us before we'd deploy to a ship or base. I don't have a link, so he calls me a liar for it.

I've also said many times that people are welcome to disbelieve me because I'm just some guy on Fark, as far as they know.
 
2013-05-26 04:20:26 PM
If he did anything illegal while posing as a member of the military then he should be punished for that, but if he was just posting as a member of the military then who cares?  This whole "stolen glory" crap is just that, crap.
 
2013-05-26 04:21:03 PM

Stinkyy: What the hell kind of action could these commies have seen?  These are the most absurd looking uniforms I've ever seen.


At least it provides a legit reason for airport security to ask them to remove their pants.
 
2013-05-26 04:22:10 PM

borg: As a Corporal Captain in the US Army I'm outraged by this poser


What you did there, I see it.  Often before anybody else.
 
2013-05-26 04:27:55 PM

borg: As a Corporal Captain in the US Army I'm outraged by this poser


Just waiting on that promotion to Lance Captain?
 
2013-05-26 04:31:37 PM

Radak: Stinkyy: What the hell kind of action could these commies have seen?  These are the most absurd looking uniforms I've ever seen.

At least it provides a legit reason for airport security to ask them to remove their pants.


Actually, it does not.  Here is the original, unshopped photo:


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