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2013-05-26 07:37:20 AM
I highly doubt it schlubmitter.
 
2013-05-26 07:47:09 AM
Legalization of gay marriage would not make me happy.
Free lunch buffet at the strip club.  That makes me happy.
 
2013-05-26 08:09:56 AM
This just in: the legalization of gay marriage will make everyone involved in the wedding business happy.
 
2013-05-26 08:49:00 AM
Google Glass will make everyone happy regardless of the legality of gay marriage.
 
2013-05-26 08:59:35 AM

serial_crusher: Legalization of gay marriage would not make me happy.
Free lunch buffet at the strip club.  That makes me happy.


An all you can eat strip club?

Uh...food...right?
 
2013-05-26 09:09:02 AM
I wasn't happy trying to read an article that enormous on the subject.

/I am happy with gay marriage, however
 
2013-05-26 09:37:18 AM
I feel happy. I feel happy!
www.alifeatthemovies.com
 
2013-05-26 09:45:51 AM
Well I suspect the evangelicals won't be very happy....but divorce lawyers just got a whole new market open up for them so it balances out.
 
2013-05-26 10:07:31 AM
To paraphrase that 3-page article: "Traditional marriage," as advocated by the evangelical types revolves around strict enforcement of gender roles, with one set list of duties performed only by the man and another set performed by the woman. In a successful, well-functioning household however, the duties are divvied up according to who enjoys and/or is proficient at a particular task -- regardless of gender.
 
2013-05-26 10:10:41 AM
It certainly will make the divorce lawyers happy.
 
2013-05-26 11:07:36 AM
It will make a lot of people happy, but first we should all be embarrassed for indulging this foray into unbridled bigotry on a legislative level.
 
2013-05-26 11:27:48 AM
I'd be happy if folks just minded they own dang business. Who your neighbors are involved with isn't anyone's damn business unless it's with your spouse or significant other...
 
2013-05-26 11:47:55 AM

WordyGrrl: To paraphrase that 3-page article: "Traditional marriage," as advocated by the evangelical types revolves around strict enforcement of gender roles, with one set list of duties performed only by the man and another set performed by the woman. In a successful, well-functioning household however, the duties are divvied up according to who enjoys and/or is proficient at a particular task -- regardless of gender.


Could you dumb it down a little more, Wordy Girl?
 
2013-05-26 12:00:39 PM

WordyGrrl: To paraphrase that 3-page article: "Traditional marriage," as advocated by the evangelical types revolves around strict enforcement of gender roles, with one set list of duties performed only by the man and another set performed by the woman. In a successful, well-functioning household however, the duties are divvied up according to who enjoys and/or is proficient at a particular task -- regardless of gender.


tl;dr
 
2013-05-26 12:25:36 PM

cman: Google Glass will make everyone happy regardless of the legality of gay marriage.


once they get the full HUD version of Google Glass, you could make an app that edits gay peoples' wedding rings off their fingers.
 
2013-05-26 12:27:26 PM

WordyGrrl: To paraphrase that 3-page article: "Traditional marriage," as advocated by the evangelical types revolves around strict enforcement of gender roles, with one set list of duties performed only by the man and another set performed by the woman. In a successful, well-functioning household however, the duties are divvied up according to who enjoys and/or is proficient at a particular task -- regardless of gender.


Isn't that the same thing?  I mean, why would I marry a woman who doesn't enjoy and/or isn't proficient at the duties traditionally performed by the woman?  That's just crazy talk.
 
2013-05-26 12:41:31 PM
♪♫ We'll have a gay old time! ♫♪
 
2013-05-26 12:42:29 PM

miss diminutive: This just in: the legalization of gay marriage will make everyone involved in the wedding business except those too stupid to make money off of it because "Jesus" happy.

 
2013-05-26 12:42:30 PM
Not the gays. They'll be married.
 
2013-05-26 12:43:28 PM
Why does the media think that anyone gives a shiat about this?
 
2013-05-26 12:44:43 PM

serial_crusher: WordyGrrl: To paraphrase that 3-page article: "Traditional marriage," as advocated by the evangelical types revolves around strict enforcement of gender roles, with one set list of duties performed only by the man and another set performed by the woman. In a successful, well-functioning household however, the duties are divvied up according to who enjoys and/or is proficient at a particular task -- regardless of gender.

Isn't that the same thing?  I mean, why would I marry a woman who doesn't enjoy and/or isn't proficient at the duties traditionally performed by the woman?  That's just crazy talk.


It's not that men and women are entering into unions where they are then given tasks divided up by "men's work" and "women's work," it's that they enter into these unions with the assumption that their partner will be glad to fulfill those roles.

tl;dr straight people need to learn to talk to one another before getting hitched
 
2013-05-26 12:45:49 PM

WordyGrrl: To paraphrase that 3-page article: "Traditional marriage," as advocated by the evangelical types revolves around strict enforcement of gender roles, with one set list of duties performed only by the man and another set performed by the woman. In a successful, well-functioning household however, the duties are divvied up according to who enjoys and/or is proficient at a particular task -- regardless of gender.


The part of "traditional marriage" that is probably most responsible for a relative lack of happiness compared to gay couples is the social pressure to marry early and the pressure to stay together for the kids.
 
2013-05-26 12:47:21 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: serial_crusher: WordyGrrl: To paraphrase that 3-page article: "Traditional marriage," as advocated by the evangelical types revolves around strict enforcement of gender roles, with one set list of duties performed only by the man and another set performed by the woman. In a successful, well-functioning household however, the duties are divvied up according to who enjoys and/or is proficient at a particular task -- regardless of gender.

Isn't that the same thing?  I mean, why would I marry a woman who doesn't enjoy and/or isn't proficient at the duties traditionally performed by the woman?  That's just crazy talk.

It's not that men and women are entering into unions where they are then given tasks divided up by "men's work" and "women's work," it's that they enter into these unions with the assumption that their partner will be glad to fulfill those roles.

tl;dr straight people need to learn to talk to one another before getting hitched


Jesus spoke often of keeping the pimp hand strong.
 
2013-05-26 12:48:28 PM

WordyGrrl: To paraphrase that 3-page article: "Traditional marriage," as advocated by the evangelical types revolves around strict enforcement of gender roles, with one set list of duties performed only by the man and another set performed by the woman. In a successful, well-functioning household however, the duties are divvied up according to who enjoys and/or is proficient at a particular task -- regardless of gender.


And that both marriage and society as a whole has adjusted to a change in perceived social norms over time.

I find it amusing that the overall divorce rate is going  down while the rate of same-sex marriage goes  up.
 
2013-05-26 12:49:30 PM
I doubt that it would have made Liberace happy, after reading a review of the new HBO biopic.
 
2013-05-26 12:49:37 PM
It's time to start raising ducks to sell as love brides.
 
2013-05-26 12:49:52 PM
For the tl;dr crowd, you missed this nugget of wisdom FTFA:

As for men, she eventually concluded that whether they were straight or gay, they approached sex as they might a sandwich: good, bad, or mediocre, they were likely to grab it.
 
2013-05-26 12:50:07 PM

Weaver95: Well I suspect the evangelicals won't be very happy....but divorce lawyers just got a whole new market open up for them so it balances out.


Well of course they will not. It be like Sodom all over again where a groups of xenophobic religious nuts are punished for their hatred of others that are different and had other opinions than they do. Would you want to legalise something when you know your own jackassed opposition will lead to you being turned into a pillar of salt by your own deity?
 
2013-05-26 12:51:50 PM
But ... I'm already married ...
 
2013-05-26 12:51:59 PM

limeyfellow: Weaver95: Well I suspect the evangelicals won't be very happy....but divorce lawyers just got a whole new market open up for them so it balances out.

Well of course they will not. It be like Sodom all over again where a groups of xenophobic religious nuts are punished for their hatred of others that are different and had other opinions than they do. Would you want to legalise something when you know your own jackassed opposition will lead to you being turned into a pillar of salt by your own deity?


o.O
 
2013-05-26 12:52:21 PM

Weaver95: Well I suspect the evangelicals won't be very happy....


On the other hand, anti-gay churches will probably see their donations triple so it kind of evens out on that front.
 
2013-05-26 12:53:53 PM

SoupJohnB: I doubt that it would have made Liberace happy, after reading a review of the new HBO biopic.


Died over 25 years ago.  Very different world.
 
2013-05-26 12:56:15 PM

12349876: WordyGrrl: To paraphrase that 3-page article: "Traditional marriage," as advocated by the evangelical types revolves around strict enforcement of gender roles, with one set list of duties performed only by the man and another set performed by the woman. In a successful, well-functioning household however, the duties are divvied up according to who enjoys and/or is proficient at a particular task -- regardless of gender.

The part of "traditional marriage" that is probably most responsible for a relative lack of happiness compared to gay couples is the social pressure to marry early and the pressure to stay together for the kids.


This. I remember my dad asking me when I was 22 about why I hadn't met a nice girl to settle down with. Seriously? This isn't 1850; no 22 year old has any business getting married these days.

/recovered mormon
 
2013-05-26 12:57:31 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: miss diminutive: This just in: the legalization of gay marriage will make everyone involved in the wedding business except those too stupid to make money off of it because "Jesus" happy.


In Denver a custom bakery refused to make a red and teal wedding cake for a pair of men who were getting married.  I imagine that some people in the wedding business will not be happy working for couples BOTH of whom are color-blind.
 
2013-05-26 12:59:04 PM
Won't someone think about the bigots?  It seems as though no one wants to defend the assholes in this country.
 
2013-05-26 01:01:28 PM

flondrix: The My Little Pony Killer: miss diminutive: This just in: the legalization of gay marriage will make everyone involved in the wedding business except those too stupid to make money off of it because "Jesus" happy.

In Denver a custom bakery refused to make a red and teal wedding cake for a pair of men who were getting married.  I imagine that some people in the wedding business will not be happy working for couples BOTH of whom are color-blind.


It is not the baker's job to judge or decide the colors that any couple would want for their wedding. So red and teal don't go well together, so what? If you are not willing to bake a simple cake for some stupid reason, then you are in the wrong business.
 
2013-05-26 01:01:56 PM
Look, I'm all for legalized gay marriage, but TFA was not only pseudoscience bordering on active anti-science and completely speculative bullshiat to boot, but it was clearly written by a high-school Freshman who only had three paragraphs of information but was handed a 5000 word count and 20-statistic citation requirement by an overly apathetic English teacher, and made up the difference with random typing and taking the first bits of whatever that showed up on Wikipedia.

Someone really needs to sit the author down and have a strongly-worded discussion with her about relevance, research, and context.  That word soup was barely intelligible, the best thing that can be said about it is that it did at least manage to get spelling and grammar right.
 
2013-05-26 01:02:07 PM
I read the headline as "This just out, etc."
 
2013-05-26 01:02:30 PM

12349876: The part of "traditional marriage" that is probably most responsible for a relative lack of happiness compared to gay couples is the social pressure to marry early and the pressure to stay together for the kids.


Specifically, the cycle of: Get pregnant because you know nothing about birth control->get married to someone you don't really like but had sex with once->have more kids, because of the lack of birth control->keep your kids ignorant about birth control->repeat until insane, that is so common in the Bible belt.
 
2013-05-26 01:04:55 PM
This.
 
2013-05-26 01:06:32 PM
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Baby: SOON
 
2013-05-26 01:10:11 PM

12349876: SoupJohnB: I doubt that it would have made Liberace happy, after reading a review of the new HBO biopic.

Died over 25 years ago.  Very different world.


True.  Although I'm still not entirely convinced that he was gay.  I don't think Elvis did drugs, either.

/or Nixon never would have put him in charge of the DEA, right?
 
2013-05-26 01:11:14 PM

Jim_Callahan: Look, I'm all for legalized gay marriage, but TFA was not only pseudoscience bordering on active anti-science and completely speculative bullshiat to boot, but it was clearly written by a high-school Freshman who only had three paragraphs of information but was handed a 5000 word count and 20-statistic citation requirement by an overly apathetic English teacher, and made up the difference with random typing and taking the first bits of whatever that showed up on Wikipedia.


Dude, I don't disagree with you in principle, but please, don't criticize someone's writing when you can't slip a few periods in here or there.
 
2013-05-26 01:11:53 PM
I like rainbows.  I support the rainbow industry.
 
2013-05-26 01:14:56 PM
It's about time we legalized happy marriages. The world needs more gay people.
 
2013-05-26 01:19:48 PM
It'll sure make me happy. I'll finally be able to stop living this lie and marry my turtle.
 
2013-05-26 01:20:57 PM

pxlboy: 12349876: WordyGrrl: To paraphrase that 3-page article: "Traditional marriage," as advocated by the evangelical types revolves around strict enforcement of gender roles, with one set list of duties performed only by the man and another set performed by the woman. In a successful, well-functioning household however, the duties are divvied up according to who enjoys and/or is proficient at a particular task -- regardless of gender.

The part of "traditional marriage" that is probably most responsible for a relative lack of happiness compared to gay couples is the social pressure to marry early and the pressure to stay together for the kids.

This. I remember my dad asking me when I was 22 about why I hadn't met a nice girl to settle down with. Seriously? This isn't 1850; no 22 year old has any business getting married these days.

/recovered mormon


I agree, I think a lot of marriages today fail not because of the " institution" being flawed but because you have divisions of our society push their members into marriage either to early or without allowing people to properly cultivate a relationship that has longevity.

Further, society trivializing the distinction between love and lust doesn't help people identify what makes a healthy relationship
 
2013-05-26 01:21:09 PM

gimmegimme: Won't someone think about the bigots?  It seems as though no one wants to defend the assholes in this country.


I will defend their right to be assholes, to hold, and even espouse horrible, horrible opinions. But their right to an opinion ends where someone else's life begins, and my defense of them ends when they want to legislate their views on others.

If you "support traditional marriage" but also recognize that other people might not share your opinion and grudgingly accept that there are people in this world who live lives in ways you don't approve, we're cool.
 
2013-05-26 01:26:12 PM

untaken_name: Not the gays. They'll be married.


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HEY OH!
 
2013-05-26 01:27:24 PM

computerguyUT: Why does the media think that anyone gives a shiat about this?


I don't know.  Why are you coming in to a thread about something you "don't give a shait about" to tell us that you don't give a shait about it?
 
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