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(Kansas.com)   It turns out that the polygraph machine might have been the one that was lying   (kansas.com) divider line 13
    More: Ironic, polygraphs, Defense Intelligence Agency, scientific skepticism, Mcclatchy  
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2013-05-26 10:22:16 AM
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Benevolent Misanthrope: Their job is to clear the case, not to solve it.


This is the most important element of that. Police want to clear the case, the DA wants to close the case, and they all have the goal of putting someone in jail  as quickly as possible so they can move on to the gigantic backlog facing them.

Even if you have the ultimate Good Guy Greg of cops handling your case,  he still wants to put you in jail. He wouldn't have detained you if he didn't think he could get you into jail. Your only defense is to lawyer up. Lawyering up is not an admission of guilt. Lawyering up isn't going "to make this harder for everyone". Lawyering up makes sure the process proceeds smoothly, and it keeps your cornhole in its original factory condition.
2013-05-26 11:43:36 AM
2 votes:
Best polygraph ever.
NSFW language.
2013-05-27 11:13:21 PM
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ManRay: Best polygraph ever.
NSFW language.


I respectfully disagree.
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2013-05-26 01:14:51 PM
1 votes:
I took a polygraph as part of obtaining a security clearance.  I had problems with questions asking if I had ever stolen or shared state secrets with agents of other governments, but had zero problems with the questions regarding theft.

At the time of the test I had never left the country, never been privy to any state secrets, and never met any agents of other governments, so I had no idea why I was failing those questions.

Now if I had failed the questions around theft, there are some things in my past that would have justified it. But of course I breezed through those questions.

I walked out of that test with less respect for polygraphs then when I entered.
2013-05-26 12:15:30 PM
1 votes:

pueblonative: Ah yes, the polygraph.  Rivaled only in accuracy by the scientific method of throwing women in the river to see if they're witches.


Well throwing them in the river is unnecessary, We can use my larger scales.
2013-05-26 12:12:49 PM
1 votes:
Ah yes, the polygraph.  Rivaled only in accuracy by the scientific method of throwing women in the river to see if they're witches.
2013-05-26 12:12:29 PM
1 votes:
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2013-05-26 12:04:15 PM
1 votes:
What do you expect from the guy who created Wonder Woman?

4.bp.blogspot.com

www.saturdayeveningpost.com

It was all just his clever ploy to tie more females up, this time in the guise of Science.
2013-05-26 12:00:43 PM
1 votes:

Molavian: ManRay: Best polygraph ever.
NSFW language.

That is f*cking great.


The creator of The Wire swears that scene was based on something that actually happened.
2013-05-26 11:55:23 AM
1 votes:
We fixed the glitch.

So it'll just work itself out naturally.
2013-05-26 11:46:18 AM
1 votes:
LAUGHTER OL anyone who does the use of the polygraph for any of the reasons is the quack. If you are the person who uses this at the workplace you deserve the shooting.
2013-05-26 11:39:50 AM
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hardinparamedic: I didn't think Polygraphs could still be used in court?


They can't, but they can be used by the cops in the course of an investigation.

TFA isn't really suggesting some legal change so much as that the use of the machines in investigations probably hurts more than it helps.  Apparently TFA is talking about an actual glitch, but there's also the issue that a stress meter doesn't really tell you much when used under conditions where basically anyone will be having stress spikes.

Not that there's a big difference to be made, since the cops already use profilers, who start out about as good at profiling as an average person guessing blindly and actually get worse with experience as their confidence builds.

Benevolent Misanthrope: NEVER - EVER - TRUST A POLICE OFFICER.


That's a bit harsh.

Trusting the cops is fine.  If you're a lost child, they'll get you back to your parents.  If you're getting mugged or robbed, they'll put up the lights and scare your assailant off, if you have a criminal complaint they'll file it for you, etc.  They're not necessarily bad at their jobs and they're no worse people on average than any other blue-collar worker you'll meet.

What you should never do is disclose any personal information to a police officer beyond your name, contact information, and current location to any police officer.  Any problem that the cops cannot solve with that much information about you is not a problem for the police.  Don't tell them where you've been, what you've been doing, or anything about anyone you've encountered.
2013-05-26 08:31:38 AM
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hardinparamedic: I didn't think Polygraphs could still be used in court?


Cops step up to the plate and tell lies instead.
 
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