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(The New York Times)   A family of three making $121 a week is deemed too rich to receive medical assistance from the government. This is happening in A) North Korea, B) Sub-Saharan Africa, or C) Kansas   (nytimes.com) divider line 268
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2013-05-25 09:09:26 PM
Because public health is socialism and Jesus wouldn't let poors get sick if they didn't deserve it.
 
2013-05-25 09:11:43 PM
Compassionate comservatism at its finest.
 
2013-05-25 09:20:08 PM
$121 a week in North Korea or Sub-Sahara could probably get you some pretty good health care.
 
2013-05-25 09:20:28 PM
$121 A WEEK????

Jeez, why do I bother going to work if I can live high on the hog mooching off Real Americans for that kind of sweet cash?!?!

Hell, I could buy steaks, fine wine, cigarettes, crack, and 24 carat gold-rims for my lowrider with that kind of scratch!!!

Where's the incentive to work if you can get a giant pile of bills like that EVERY.  SINGLE.  WEEK!?!1??
 
2013-05-25 09:24:35 PM
Fark em.

They voted for their retarded shiat-kicker proud-to-be-moron representative government.

They happily vote against their own best interests and rabidly pursue a corporate manufactured ideology that depends on them being too stupid or lazy to bother learning facts and truth.

I live in rural America.
In one breath the rural rubes around here will espouse all the great and wonderful things regulation-free fracking will bring our state (but somehow haven't managed to, but just you wait..) and at the same time try to convince you of why wind turbines are the devil, don't work and are going to make the BALD EAGLE EXTINCT (I shiat you not).

Half these motherfarkers are retarded by choice. They made their farking beds, let them lay in them.

/though I do feel bad for those that neither asked for nor deserve the things that will visit them just for living in a state run by these willfully stupid partisan hacks.
 
2013-05-25 09:25:33 PM
Kansas: making Texas look normal since 2009
 
2013-05-25 09:27:42 PM

MurphyMurphy: Half these motherfarkers are retarded by choice. They made their farking beds, let them lay in them.


In their defense, a family of 3 pulling down $484 a month probably decided to trade in things like beds and rent in order to pay for food and semi-potable water.
 
2013-05-25 09:28:38 PM
That's less than $6300 a year, how can anyone actually live on that? nevermind be too rich for anything...
Rent for a year for a crappy two bed basement apartment in Toronto would be at least $4k more that that all by its self. Add food, clothing, bus tickets, and at minimum a pay as you go cell...
 
2013-05-25 09:47:05 PM

sno man: That's less than $6300 a year, how can anyone actually live on that?


And then there's the anti-minimum wage people who argue that the people who would be forced to live on $3/hr. could just save up for college to get better jobs.

Rent for a year for a crappy two bed basement apartment in Toronto would be at least $4k more that that all by its self.

To be fair, housing costs in this part of the country are very low compared with bigger cities.  I live in Lincoln, Nebraska in a very decent 840 sq. ft. 1 bed/1.5 bath apartment that could support 3 people in a pinch and I pay $640/month.
 
2013-05-25 09:48:59 PM

MurphyMurphy: Fark em.

They voted for their retarded shiat-kicker proud-to-be-moron representative government.


Except for all the kids too young to vote and the 1/3 of the voters that voted for the other guy and the folks that didn't vote because they thought the election was a foregone conclusion, or that couldn't vote because they didn't have residency.

Those are the folks that are getting farked over.
 
2013-05-25 09:49:29 PM

dookdookdook: and I pay $640/month.


...which I just realized is still much more than $6300/yr.
 
2013-05-25 09:52:38 PM
That's mighty Christian of them.
 
2013-05-25 09:56:46 PM
How do you make only $121 per week?  Maybe I've lived a sheltered life, but it seems that finding a job that pays at least full time minimum wage shouldn't be that hard.

That being said, this is a dick move by those states, and it's one that will bite them in the ass.  Someone who doesn't have health insurance but who has a sick kid isn't going to let the kid suffer - they'll go to the emergency room where someone will be obligated to treat them, and just never pay.  Those costs will end up being subsidized by everyone who does pay for insurance, or by the state through tax dollars, so it's still coming out of the pockets of those who contribute, just in a roundabout way with more overhead.
 
2013-05-25 09:57:13 PM

Krieghund: MurphyMurphy: Fark em.

They voted for their retarded shiat-kicker proud-to-be-moron representative government.

Except for all the kids too young to vote and the 1/3 of the voters that voted for the other guy and the folks that didn't vote because they thought the election was a foregone conclusion, or that couldn't vote because they didn't have residency.

Those are the folks that are getting farked over.


MurphyMurphy: /though I do feel bad for those that neither asked for nor deserve the things that will visit them just for living in a state run by these willfully stupid partisan hacks.
 
2013-05-25 09:58:40 PM
Gah, and I just realized that 40 hours per week on minimum wage is $290 per week.  How the hell can anyone live on that?
 
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2013-05-25 10:03:35 PM

TuteTibiImperes: How do you make only $121 per week?


Master's degree from KU. And even that would be a generous salary.
 
2013-05-25 10:15:04 PM

dookdookdook: sno man: That's less than $6300 a year, how can anyone actually live on that?

And then there's the anti-minimum wage people who argue that the people who would be forced to live on $3/hr. could just save up for college to get better jobs.

Rent for a year for a crappy two bed basement apartment in Toronto would be at least $4k more that that all by its self.

To be fair, housing costs in this part of the country are very low compared with bigger cities.  I live in Lincoln, Nebraska in a very decent 840 sq. ft. 1 bed/1.5 bath apartment that could support 3 people in a pinch and I pay $640/month.


Except that your '3 people in a pinch' apartment is still about $150 more than someone in that situation could afford.
 
2013-05-25 10:15:59 PM
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2013-05-25 10:27:42 PM
If I was being forced to move to one of the places listed in the headline, I'd have a very hard time deciding.  I mean, yeah, North Korea is probably the most repressive government in the world, but sub-Saharan Africa has some really scary places in it.  I guess it would depend on whether I could move to one of the better places in sub-Saharan Africa, or if I moved to North Korea if I'd be let into the inner circle of the Party or I'd end up in a labor camp.
 
2013-05-25 10:32:44 PM
K. minimum wage in Kansas is $7.25, so 16 hours and about 40 minutes worked a week, by one or both employable(?) adults in this family....
 
2013-05-25 10:34:57 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Gah, and I just realized that 40 hours per week on minimum wage is $290 per week.  How the hell can anyone live on that?


In Washington D.C., in order to afford a median 2-bedroom apartment, a person making minimum wage would have to work an average of 140 hours per week.
 
2013-05-25 10:36:42 PM
So much wrong, can't begin to start.  I'll just go.
 
2013-05-25 10:42:33 PM

sno man: K. minimum wage in Kansas is $7.25, so 16 hours and about 40 minutes worked a week, by one or both employable(?) adults in this family....


Does the $7.25 apply to wait staff and others who receive tips?
 
2013-05-25 10:47:46 PM
TuteTibiImperes:  it's still coming out of the pockets of those who contribute, just in a roundabout way with more overhead.

Not really.  Most who need treatment, but not desperately, will still skip it for fear of the bills.  It's not like there's just a box you can check on the ER forms saying "I'm not paying, so please direct all collection calls and lawsuits to the government, not my house".
 
2013-05-25 10:48:17 PM
Aunty em!
 
2013-05-25 10:53:27 PM
SO MUCH BUTTHURT

This thread is already delicious; I cannot wait to see what happens when this hits the tab
 
2013-05-25 10:55:25 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: sno man: K. minimum wage in Kansas is $7.25, so 16 hours and about 40 minutes worked a week, by one or both employable(?) adults in this family....

Does the $7.25 apply to wait staff and others who receive tips?


google got me there... and here... OMG! WTF?
a $5.12 tip credit against minimum wage so you can legally pay someone $2.13.  and not just there...
 
2013-05-25 11:00:01 PM

I_Am_Weasel: $121 a week in North Korea or Sub-Sahara could probably get you some pretty good health care.


121 American Dollars a week in North Korea, where the average daily ration for a civilian is 300kcal?

That'd buy you a Dictatorship there.
 
2013-05-25 11:04:15 PM

sno man: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: sno man: K. minimum wage in Kansas is $7.25, so 16 hours and about 40 minutes worked a week, by one or both employable(?) adults in this family....

Does the $7.25 apply to wait staff and others who receive tips?

google got me there... and here... OMG! WTF?
a $5.12 tip credit against minimum wage so you can legally pay someone $2.13.  and not just there...


And here in Arkansas, though not all establishments do such chicanery
 
2013-05-25 11:06:05 PM

Skywolf the Scribbler: sno man: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: sno man: K. minimum wage in Kansas is $7.25, so 16 hours and about 40 minutes worked a week, by one or both employable(?) adults in this family....

Does the $7.25 apply to wait staff and others who receive tips?

google got me there... and here... OMG! WTF?
a $5.12 tip credit against minimum wage so you can legally pay someone $2.13.  and not just there...

And here in Arkansas, though not all establishments do such chicanery


Wow. Tennessee doesn't allow it. At least they did something right.

/I'm sure if Stacey Campfield has his way, he'd do away with such socialist communism.
 
2013-05-25 11:08:19 PM

dookdookdook: TuteTibiImperes:  it's still coming out of the pockets of those who contribute, just in a roundabout way with more overhead.

Not really.  Most who need treatment, but not desperately, will still skip it for fear of the bills.  It's not like there's just a box you can check on the ER forms saying "I'm not paying, so please direct all collection calls and lawsuits to the government, not my house".


I'm sure there are plenty of people who give fake names and fake contact information, but even in the case of those going in without the intent to defraud but with no ability to pay it's not like the collection calls are going to get anywhere with someone living well below the poverty line.

You're right in that there's probably a lot of putting off of the medical care as well, which of course can lead to things that could be treated cheaply and easily if caught early becoming much costlier to remedy later on.  That's another great reason to make sure that everyone has affordable access to medical care - it will lower everyone's costs if things that could be handled with a prescription and an out-patient visit were handled that way instead of extended hospital stays when the condition gets out of control.
 
2013-05-25 11:10:01 PM

TuteTibiImperes: You're right in that there's probably a lot of putting off of the medical care as well, which of course can lead to things that could be treated cheaply and easily if caught early becoming much costlier to remedy later on. That's another great reason to make sure that everyone has affordable access to medical care - it will lower everyone's costs if things that could be handled with a prescription and an out-patient visit were handled that way instead of extended hospital stays when the condition gets out of control.


EEEEEEK! COMMUNISM!!
 
2013-05-25 11:16:44 PM

Skywolf the Scribbler: TuteTibiImperes: You're right in that there's probably a lot of putting off of the medical care as well, which of course can lead to things that could be treated cheaply and easily if caught early becoming much costlier to remedy later on. That's another great reason to make sure that everyone has affordable access to medical care - it will lower everyone's costs if things that could be handled with a prescription and an out-patient visit were handled that way instead of extended hospital stays when the condition gets out of control.

EEEEEEK! COMMUNISM!!


I bet they even have refrigerators! NOT POOR, LIBTARDS!
 
2013-05-25 11:19:21 PM
Maybe the poors will FINALLY take the hint and die quietly.  They're so unsightly.

Because if history has taught us anything, it's that when people are placed in desperate situations with nothing to lose, they quietly resign themselves to their fate.
 
2013-05-25 11:30:37 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-25 11:30:59 PM

SilentStrider: Compassionate comservatism at its finest.


Compassionate conservatism:  put a pillow over their face before you pull the trigger.
 
2013-05-25 11:31:59 PM
I can barely differentiate the three places as it is, subby. How about a hint?
 
2013-05-25 11:37:29 PM

Rann Xerox: SilentStrider: Compassionate comservatism at its finest.

Compassionate conservatism:  put a pillow over their face before you pull the trigger.


That's just good common sense. Prevents the blood spatter.
 
2013-05-25 11:37:47 PM
So repeal ObamaCare.
 
2013-05-25 11:41:59 PM

SilentStrider: Compassionate comservatism at its finest.


The amount of compassion is a factor of the person's net worth. (Unless they haven't been born yet, of course.)
 
2013-05-25 11:42:01 PM

MurphyMurphy: and at the same time try to convince you of why wind turbines are the devil, don't work and are going to make the BALD EAGLE EXTINCT (I shiat you not).


You live in Massachusetts?  I always thought that was a pretty liberal state.
 
2013-05-25 11:42:08 PM

cman: SO MUCH BUTTHURT

This thread is already delicious; I cannot wait to see what happens when this hits the tab


What butthurt? This is happening because states' governors chose NOT to implement Obamacare, not because OF Obamacare; are you able to appreciate the difference?

I know randommotherf*cker is too stupid to comprehend the difference, but I usually expect better from you.
 
2013-05-25 11:42:30 PM
The Kansas Medicaid program provides no coverage for able-bodied childless adults. And adults with dependent children are generally ineligible if their income exceeds 32 percent of the poverty level, Ms. Praeger said.

That 32% rule seems like it was pulled out of someone's ass in a cruel and capricious manner.

Kansas GOPers screwing over the poorest of the poor in their state just to give Obama the finger?

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
 
2013-05-25 11:42:46 PM
We've known this was coming since the SCOTUS ruled that States can't be punished for not expanding Medicaid.

The proposed punishment was to cut off ALL Medicaid funding to the States.  Wouldn't that have been lovely...
 
2013-05-25 11:44:59 PM
The only way you can survive on that is crime. Jail would be a significant increase in your standard of living
 
2013-05-25 11:46:03 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Because public health is socialism and Jesus wouldn't let poors get sick if they didn't deserve it.


I guess that's the flip side of the "Prosperity Gospel"....
 
2013-05-25 11:46:20 PM

Gyrfalcon: cman: SO MUCH BUTTHURT

This thread is already delicious; I cannot wait to see what happens when this hits the tab

What butthurt? This is happening because states' governors chose NOT to implement Obamacare, not because OF Obamacare; are you able to appreciate the difference?

I know randommotherf*cker is too stupid to comprehend the difference, but I usually expect better from you.


I didnt attack ObamaCare at all. Hell, I didnt attack anyone. All I did was say "lol".
 
2013-05-25 11:51:31 PM
Pulling down around $25k a year with $500/month rent, and woke up with a sore tooth this morning.

Not getting a kick.

/At least rent's only $500/month and not a total shiathole.
 
2013-05-25 11:53:24 PM
Reminds me something that was happening in Indiana. Nice young lady who is type I diabetic (as in her body cannot produce insulin, has been that way since childhood, and there isn't a thing she can do to undo it), always took great care of her blood sugars when she was covered by her parents' insurance. She ages out of that coverage, but has a hard time finding a job. She tries and tries, but no work is available or the spare work she can find won't cover health costs - as this is going on, her blood sugars are getting worse and worse, slowly damaging the nerves in her extremities and severely hampering her body's ability to heal itself (not to mention kidney and eye damage). She applies for Indiana's version of medical assistance, but they won't let her on - turns out they don't have enough money to provide coverage for her, so she has to wait for enough people to die, get a job, etc etc. As this is going on, the damage to her body is getting progressively worse, to the point where her feet need to be amputated (lest she die of gangrene), a procedure that will cost $40,000 to $50,000. Despite this imminent and expensive surgery thatwill have to be done through the most expensive means, Indiana still refuses to provide her coverage. Last I knew, she had the amputation and the doctors will have to do another procedure to take the legs to just above her knees (at the same cost) because the problem is still persisting. This could've been prevent by providing her the funds to maintain her insulin prescription (something her parents couldn't do), something that has a monthly cost ~$50. It would take over 60 years for that prescription to be more expensive than a single amputation surgery and she's getting queued up for a second one.

I have yet to find one Republican, conservative, Tea Partier, opposer of healthcare reform, etc who thinks that Indiana is wasting a shiatload of money and is doing unconscionable harm to this young lady... and all of them agreed the best solution was for the government to have ponied up the money to care for her.
 
2013-05-25 11:53:57 PM
Round up and send the illegals back to Mexico and it will be impossible for anyone to make a mere $121 a week. Employers would be knocking on doors begging US citizens to come to work for them and giving them a 100% paid medical insurance.
 
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