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(Opposing Views)   On this week's episode of Some People are Capable of Amazing Feats: 17-year-old homeless girl becomes valedictorian of her high school class   (opposingviews.com) divider line 134
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2013-05-25 09:08:42 PM  
In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.
 
2013-05-25 09:27:36 PM  

hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.


Was probably also surprised when overweight, not considered attractive people can sing well.
 
2013-05-25 09:28:15 PM  

hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.


No, but they have other things to deal with that makes schooling more difficult, so it is a nice story when they can overcome the challenges.
 
2013-05-25 09:29:37 PM  
Amazing feets.

www.theeway.com
 
2013-05-25 09:33:51 PM  
Well it looks like her and her sister will break free of the multi-generational dependency class created by the Federal Welfare system-good for them.
 
2013-05-25 09:35:09 PM  
I'm not sure the hero tag applies, certainly applies more than the hero tag for the anti-homeless guy from last week but still. Good for her.
 
2013-05-25 09:35:32 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.

No, but they have other things to deal with that makes schooling more difficult, so it is a nice story when they can overcome the challenges.


Yea I guess being able to quailify for a school district you don't have a home in might be tough.
/DRTFA
//I don't click oppossing veiw links
/Don't really know why
 
2013-05-25 09:36:39 PM  

hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.


Not to mention the fact that he seems to think anything related to high school is somehow an "accomplishment".
 
2013-05-25 09:38:39 PM  

hasty ambush: Well it looks like her and her sister will break free of the multi-generational dependency class created by the Democrats system-good for them.


Let's be honest, here.
 
2013-05-25 09:40:55 PM  
Yeah, well what else did she have going for her?
 
2013-05-25 09:41:19 PM  
In before someone makes this thread about guns.
 
2013-05-25 09:41:40 PM  
They had cell phones!  They weren't poor!  Thanks Obama!  Blaaaaaarrrrgh!
 
2013-05-25 09:43:09 PM  

hasty ambush: Well it looks like her and her sister will break free of the multi-generational dependency class created by the Federal Welfare system-good for them.


Not if they're smart.
 
2013-05-25 09:43:46 PM  
Molavian: hasty ambush: Well it looks like her and her sister will break free of the multi-generational dependency class created by the Democrats system-good for them.

Let's be honest, here.


Thanks, Obama.
 
2013-05-25 09:46:04 PM  

"In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings."


I didn't take it as subby is calling homeless people idiots. I take it as a homeless girl not only did well in school despite her hard circumstances, but she did the best she could. I think it's a noteworthy story because she has it a lot rougher than people who have a stable environment but still do poorly in school.

 
2013-05-25 09:46:28 PM  

hasty ambush: Well it looks like her and her sister will break free of the multi-generational dependency class created by the Federal Welfare system-good for them.


Yeah, I'm sure they were thrilled with welfare.  It's why everyone loves welfare!  So, your statement contradicts your other view that people just love living on welfare, and live well and happily on welfare.  (being that you're a cretinous rightwinger, your views are obvious!)
 
2013-05-25 09:47:28 PM  
Good for her and may she be an inspiration to others.

/Meanwhile, its pretty sad when its newsworthy that someone of less economic means manages to out-do her more financially stable peers at the high school level
//America, as long as 'socialism' is a swear word; your culture will not evolve
 
2013-05-25 09:48:25 PM  

hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.


Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.
 
2013-05-25 09:53:36 PM  
I'm sure she had no help along the way.

/how bootsrappy
//we need more stories about the ones who don't make it
 
2013-05-25 09:53:48 PM  
That's fantastic! Good for her and her sister!
 
2013-05-25 09:54:11 PM  
Wasn't everyone on Fark the valedictorian of their school?
 
2013-05-25 09:54:43 PM  
It's not like she has FARK or Facebook to distract her from studying.
 
2013-05-25 09:56:39 PM  

hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.


I've been technically homeless.  I had a place to sleep but I didn't know how long the situation would last.

It's incredibly difficult to hunker down and do work in that kind of situation.  I was just studying for the damn GREs, and even as someone who generally studies better in noisy environments (damn tinnitus) and late at night (damn insomnia) I got lucky that I had a place where I was welcome to grab a corner on the porch, plug in my laptop (not everyone has one) and get sh-t done.  I got doubly lucky that someone shared the incredibly expensive online test prep their parents paid for with me - I'm pretty damn good at taking tests, but there's a huge difference between memorizing vocab words and looking over old questions and being able to take practice versions of a test on a computer.

It's mentally draining when you don't know for sure where you're sleeping at night, if you don't have a secure place to keep things, if you don't have a home to come home to, if you're not sure where your next meal is going to come from.

So F--KING KUDOS to this girl for rising above all that crap and still being the best of the best in her school.  That's f--king dedication that deserves to be recognized.

It's not surprising that she's a human being who can accomplish something; it's impressive that she could accomplish something while being

One of five children, her family only had apartments for short periods of time. Most of the time they lived in shelters or in the family's car.
 
2013-05-25 09:57:11 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.

Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.


This.

Being homeless is stressful for anyone.

Being homeless, a kid, an valedictorian is pretty noteworthy.

/hope every penny of her college is paid for
 
2013-05-25 09:57:21 PM  
And she's starting college next year as a junior. Impressive.
 
2013-05-25 10:00:13 PM  
valedictorian, big deal. So she studied while she was doing nothing. It's not going to stop her from being poor, and she's just going to stay poor so she can use the benefits the government gives her.
 
2013-05-25 10:00:35 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.

Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.


Well, it IS Atlanta....
 
2013-05-25 10:00:36 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Good for her and may she be an inspiration to others.

/Meanwhile, its pretty sad when its newsworthy that someone of less economic means manages to out-do her more financially stable peers at the high school level
//America, as long as 'socialism' is a swear word; your culture will not evolve


I take offense. America has devolved quite markedly, thank you very much.


/scurries away in a snit
 
2013-05-25 10:02:06 PM  

WhippingBoy: Wasn't everyone on Fark the valedictorian of their school?


My school had everybody who had above a 4.0 (extra points for AP blah blah) compete in an essay contest for the title of valedictorian proper.  I didn't give a sh-t, but my mom did, so I wrote an incredibly sarcastic and snarky essay I figured would lose.  Apparently I got to the final round because the teachers who were entertained by it kept rallying for me to get the win.

So nope.  No sweat off my back, I already had my college acceptances back anyway.
 
2013-05-25 10:02:10 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: I'm sure she had no help along the way.

/how bootsrappy
//we need more stories about the ones who don't make it


Everybody gets help, from a teacher believing in you, to your parents making sure you get somewhere in life instead of just telling you can be anything you want and expecting you to figure it all out yourself. To getting a job because you know somebody who knows somebody, etc. Which btw, is still the best way to get a job. IE: It not being what you know, but who you know.
 
2013-05-25 10:02:45 PM  
1900 in her SAT? Man, how times change. What's the old school SAT equivalent? I thought I was damn lucky with my 1400.

I really hope she and her sister have continued success, and actually get out of poverty.
 
2013-05-25 10:03:34 PM  
Y'all know how distracting shiat like playstation is, right?

If you're living out of a car, you can really hunker down and study because it's boring to do nothing and you have to study at some point anyway.
 
2013-05-25 10:04:35 PM  

red5ish: And she's starting college next year as a junior. Impressive.


Skipping two years?  Shouldn't she pay her dues like everyone else? ;-)
 
2013-05-25 10:05:12 PM  

megarian: BarkingUnicorn: hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.

Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.

This.

Being homeless is stressful for anyone.

Being homeless, a kid, an valedictorian is pretty noteworthy.

/hope every penny of her college is paid for


Very true.
 
2013-05-25 10:06:35 PM  

MadTheologian: 1900 in her SAT? Man, how times change. What's the old school SAT equivalent? I thought I was damn lucky with my 1400.

I really hope she and her sister have continued success, and actually get out of poverty.


About a 1300.
 
2013-05-25 10:07:36 PM  
That settles it!  I'm becoming homeless!
 
2013-05-25 10:07:49 PM  

MadTheologian: 1900 in her SAT? Man, how times change. What's the old school SAT equivalent? I thought I was damn lucky with my 1400.

I really hope she and her sister have continued success, and actually get out of poverty.


I don't when they changed it, but apparently the equivalent is (old score/2) * 3, so you'd have a 2100 on the new scale.
 
2013-05-25 10:08:20 PM  

MadTheologian: 1900 in her SAT? Man, how times change. What's the old school SAT equivalent? I thought I was damn lucky with my 1400.

I really hope she and her sister have continued success, and actually get out of poverty.


they just took part of the SAT II and added it to the SAT. 3 tests instead of 2, total points 2400 instead of 1600.
 
2013-05-25 10:15:38 PM  
I was mediocre-excellent in my college prep school.  Finished third in my class, got into my preferred college.  Any more effort would have been superfluous.
 
2013-05-25 10:16:16 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.


I was referring to the idea that people act suprised that a homeless kid can do this. In reality, most homeless are quite intelligent, and are not that way by choice - with the exception of a population of the mentally ill. Thank the economy crash for that.

The general stereotype of the homeless as alcohol and drug addicted bums in the United States is what I was referring to.
 
2013-05-25 10:18:54 PM  

hardinparamedic: BarkingUnicorn: Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.

I was referring to the idea that people act suprised that a homeless kid can do this. In reality, most homeless are quite intelligent, and are not that way by choice - with the exception of a population of the mentally ill. Thank the economy crash for that.

The general stereotype of the homeless as alcohol and drug addicted bums in the United States is what I was referring to.


And the reeking of urine? Is that a stereotype too?
 
2013-05-25 10:20:28 PM  

WhippingBoy: hardinparamedic: BarkingUnicorn: Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.

I was referring to the idea that people act suprised that a homeless kid can do this. In reality, most homeless are quite intelligent, and are not that way by choice - with the exception of a population of the mentally ill. Thank the economy crash for that.

The general stereotype of the homeless as alcohol and drug addicted bums in the United States is what I was referring to.

And the reeking of urine? Is that a stereotype too?


No, that's real.
 
2013-05-25 10:21:49 PM  

WhippingBoy: And the reeking of urine? Is that a stereotype too?


That's real.   And so is the rampant sexual abuse and exploitation of them, too
 
2013-05-25 10:23:30 PM  

hardinparamedic: The general stereotype of the homeless as alcohol and drug addicted bums in the United States is what I was referring to.


Because that's what one thinks of when you hear "17 year old homeless girl"?  Come on now.  Maybe you think that of their parents if you're a knee jerk asshole, but even "they probably did something to deserve it" assholes-who-can't-or-won't-grasp-there-but-for-the-grace-of-God-go-I usually have an exception in their heart for kids.
 
2013-05-25 10:24:33 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Because that's what one thinks of when you hear "17 year old homeless girl"?  Come on now.  Maybe you think that of their parents if you're a knee jerk asshole, but even "they probably did something to deserve it" assholes-who-can't-or-won't-grasp-there-but-for-the-grace-of-God-go-I usually have an exception in their heart for kids.


How long have you been on FARK, now? 9 years?

You know better than that.
 
2013-05-25 10:26:54 PM  

hardinparamedic: WhippingBoy: And the reeking of urine? Is that a stereotype too?

That's real.   And so is the rampant sexual abuse and exploitation of them, too


You mean like getting them to fight for a bottle of Night Train? And filming it? And posting it on the Internet?

/good times
 
2013-05-25 10:27:58 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: hardinparamedic: The general stereotype of the homeless as alcohol and drug addicted bums in the United States is what I was referring to.

Because that's what one thinks of when you hear "17 year old homeless girl"?  Come on now.  Maybe you think that of their parents if you're a knee jerk asshole, but even "they probably did something to deserve it" assholes-who-can't-or-won't-grasp-there-but-for-the-grace-of-God-go-I usually have an exception in their heart for kids.


There's also a whole caste of people who would think:

bbsimg.ngfiles.com

Dear Diary, Jackpot!
 
2013-05-25 10:28:19 PM  
Wow, she had a  4.466 average. She was *that* close to a perfect 4.47.

/Good for her, BTW. I just wanted to snark about grade inflation.
 
2013-05-25 10:32:41 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.

I've been technically homeless.  I had a place to sleep but I didn't know how long the situation would last.

It's incredibly difficult to hunker down and do work in that kind of situation.  I was just studying for the damn GREs, and even as someone who generally studies better in noisy environments (damn tinnitus) and late at night (damn insomnia) I got lucky that I had a place where I was welcome to grab a corner on the porch, plug in my laptop (not everyone has one) and get sh-t done.  I got doubly lucky that someone shared the incredibly expensive online test prep their parents paid for with me - I'm pretty damn good at taking tests, but there's a huge difference between memorizing vocab words and looking over old questions and being able to take practice versions of a test on a computer.

It's mentally draining when you don't know for sure where you're sleeping at night, if you don't have a secure place to keep things, if you don't have a home to come home to, if you're not sure where your next meal is going to come from.

So F--KING KUDOS to this girl for rising above all that crap and still being the best of the best in her school.  That's f--king dedication that deserves to be recognized.


Seconded!!

/Congratulations on getting past your own rough time and on your accomplishments!
 
2013-05-25 10:34:13 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: WhippingBoy: Wasn't everyone on Fark the valedictorian of their school?

My school had everybody who had above a 4.0 (extra points for AP blah blah) compete in an essay contest for the title of valedictorian proper.  I didn't give a sh-t, but my mom did, so I wrote an incredibly sarcastic and snarky essay I figured would lose.  Apparently I got to the final round because the teachers who were entertained by it kept rallying for me to get the win.

So nope.  No sweat off my back, I already had my college acceptances back anyway.


Boy are you edgy. Way to go poindexter.
 
2013-05-25 10:43:38 PM  
with a 4.466 GPA

4.0 should be the maximum possible.
This tells me there are all kinds of joke honors classes that give bonus points, which makes this completely unimpressive.
 
2013-05-25 10:45:10 PM  

hardinparamedic: BarkingUnicorn: Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.

I was referring to the idea that people act suprised that a homeless kid can do this. In reality, most homeless are quite intelligent, and are not that way by choice - with the exception of a population of the mentally ill. Thank the economy crash for that.

The general stereotype of the homeless as alcohol and drug addicted bums in the United States is what I was referring to.


Now I know you're on something new.
 
2013-05-25 10:47:11 PM  

hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.


Actually the subby was probably thinking that even in the face of severe adversity people can accomplish amazing goals. After all, do you suppose it's easier to become the valedictorian if you're living in a nice stable house with plenty of food and shelter or if you're not entirely sure where you're going to sleep to night and where your next meal is coming from?
 
2013-05-25 10:47:11 PM  
I come from decent socioeconomic status.  If I had done well enough in my high school AP classes to start college as a farking junior, my parents would have shat themselves.  I got good grades, but this is ridiculous.
 
2013-05-25 10:47:23 PM  
Fifty-two posts in and nobody has asked who she farked to get to the top.  Farkers, you used to be contenders!
 
2013-05-25 10:48:03 PM  
I was sorta homeless once.

I grew up in West Philadelphia. Got in some trouble and my Mama kicked me out. If it wasn't for my Uncle Phil who took me in, and gave me a fresh chance. I don't know where I would be.
 
2013-05-25 10:48:04 PM  
Whats so amazing? Id be more impressed if she had hbo, xbox, twitter, a mailbox...
 
2013-05-25 10:48:10 PM  

MadTheologian: 1900 in her SAT? Man, how times change. What's the old school SAT equivalent? I thought I was damn lucky with my 1400.

I really hope she and her sister have continued success, and actually get out of poverty.


1266.  Decent, but not that impressive, actually.  I would expect better from a valedictorian.
 
2013-05-25 10:49:20 PM  

Begoggle: with a 4.466 GPA

4.0 should be the maximum possible.
This tells me there are all kinds of joke honors classes that give bonus points, which makes this completely unimpressive.


It is literally grade inflation.  A "B" fifteen years ago would be an "A" today, et cetera.
 
2013-05-25 10:49:54 PM  
If I had only known! I would have taken in both her and her sister, given them food, shelter, and clothing. But not the mom, I doubt she is cute.
 
2013-05-25 10:51:27 PM  
Excellent.  This is a story against which I will not be cynical.

Hopefully, this takes away the excuse from some people who consider it too difficult and use her as an example of something they, too, in similar situations can accomplish.

You go, girl.
 
2013-05-25 10:52:00 PM  

Harry_Seldon: I was sorta homeless once.

I grew up in West Philadelphia. Got in some trouble and my Mama kicked me out. If it wasn't for my Uncle Phil who took me in, and gave me a fresh chance. I don't know where I would be.


Were you wasting your days shooting BBall?
 
2013-05-25 10:52:29 PM  

hasty ambush: Well it looks like her and her sister will break free of the multi-generational dependency class created by the Federal Welfare system-good for them.


Not when the HRs look at their resumes, and see that they have no home address.  Javert had nothing on HRs.
 
2013-05-25 10:54:10 PM  

hasty ambush: Well it looks like her and her sister will break free of the multi-generational dependency class created by the Federal Welfare system-good for them.


Yeah. Everyone's homeless by choice. If only they were more bootstrappy. They could pull themselves up.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-25 11:01:51 PM  

Begoggle: with a 4.466 GPA

4.0 should be the maximum possible.
This tells me there are all kinds of joke honors classes that give bonus points, which makes this completely unimpressive.


HotWingAgenda: Begoggle: with a 4.466 GPA

4.0 should be the maximum possible.
This tells me there are all kinds of joke honors classes that give bonus points, which makes this completely unimpressive.

It is literally grade inflation.  A "B" fifteen years ago would be an "A" today, et cetera.


[citation needed]
 
2013-05-25 11:02:07 PM  

hardinparamedic: StreetlightInTheGhetto: Because that's what one thinks of when you hear "17 year old homeless girl"?  Come on now.  Maybe you think that of their parents if you're a knee jerk asshole, but even "they probably did something to deserve it" assholes-who-can't-or-won't-grasp-there-but-for-the-grace-of-God-go-I usually have an exception in their heart for kids.

How long have you been on FARK, now? 9 years?

You know better than that.


Such a wretched internet posting faux pas, how will I ever recover.
 
2013-05-25 11:03:49 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: hardinparamedic: StreetlightInTheGhetto: Because that's what one thinks of when you hear "17 year old homeless girl"?  Come on now.  Maybe you think that of their parents if you're a knee jerk asshole, but even "they probably did something to deserve it" assholes-who-can't-or-won't-grasp-there-but-for-the-grace-of-God-go-I usually have an exception in their heart for kids.

How long have you been on FARK, now? 9 years?

You know better than that.

Such a wretched internet posting faux pas, how will I ever recover.


It's okay. I brought you a cookie to make peace. It's got sprinkles.
 
2013-05-25 11:04:24 PM  

flak attack: Begoggle: with a 4.466 GPA

4.0 should be the maximum possible.
This tells me there are all kinds of joke honors classes that give bonus points, which makes this completely unimpressive.

HotWingAgenda: Begoggle: with a 4.466 GPA

4.0 should be the maximum possible.
This tells me there are all kinds of joke honors classes that give bonus points, which makes this completely unimpressive.

It is literally grade inflation.  A "B" fifteen years ago would be an "A" today, et cetera.

[citation needed]


Sorry, that was supposed to include the picture
  25.media.tumblr.com

But for some reason Fark decided that a link with a .jpg extension wasn't an image.
 
2013-05-25 11:06:58 PM  

HotWingAgenda: I come from decent socioeconomic status.  If I had done well enough in my high school AP classes to start college as a farking junior, my parents would have shat themselves.  I got good grades, but this is ridiculous.


Don't worry.  Whatever degree she chooses probably has pre-reqs that can't possibly be done in less than 3 years, much less 2.  Unless she chooses an English major, in which case, good luck not being homeless.

/Sorry about the easy English major dig
//went into college as a sophomore but there was no saavy scheduling that could have gotten me out in less than 4 with my chosen major, even with the head start.
 
2013-05-25 11:08:40 PM  

hardinparamedic: Harry_Seldon: I was sorta homeless once.

I grew up in West Philadelphia. Got in some trouble and my Mama kicked me out. If it wasn't for my Uncle Phil who took me in, and gave me a fresh chance. I don't know where I would be.

Were you wasting your days shooting BBall?


I got in one little fight.
 
2013-05-25 11:08:46 PM  

hardinparamedic: It's okay. I brought you a cookie to make peace. It's got sprinkles.


Do the sprinkles contain potassium benzoate?
 
2013-05-25 11:09:33 PM  

Harry_Seldon: I got in one little fight.


Did your mom get scared?
 
2013-05-25 11:17:42 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Fifty-two posts in and nobody has asked who she farked to get to the top.  Farkers, you used to be contenders!


Well when I read the part about here going to college two years ahead of time I thought about saying something but well .... there's a 1000+ post from yesterday still going on ; )
 
2013-05-25 11:19:47 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Good for her and may she be an inspiration to others.

/Meanwhile, its pretty sad when its newsworthy that someone of less economic means manages to out-do her more financially stable peers at the high school level
//America, as long as 'socialism' is a swear word; your culture will not evolve


America tried socialism. It didn't really work out all that well.

/Purely socialist societies tend to fail.
//Miserably.
 
2013-05-25 11:22:47 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Harry_Seldon: I got in one little fight.

Did your mom get scared?


And I'm sure they made him move in with his Auntie and uncle in Bel-Aire.
 
2013-05-25 11:23:24 PM  
This is pretty inspiring, except that being valedictorian of a Georgian high school is equivalent to getting straight Ds in the developmentally disabled classes at most other high schools. Just sayin'.
 
2013-05-25 11:24:08 PM  

Savage Belief: StreetlightInTheGhetto: Harry_Seldon: I got in one little fight.

Did your mom get scared?

And I'm sure they made him move in with his Auntie and uncle in Bel-Aire.


I hear the real story was the cabbie ; )
 
2013-05-25 11:28:22 PM  
i41.tinypic.com
 
2013-05-25 11:45:28 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.

No, but they have other things to deal with that makes schooling more difficult, so it is a nice story when they can overcome the challenges.


Additionally, if she can do it then anyone can and I no longer need to feel guilty about not helping the homeless since the ones who are not high-acheiving must obviously be lazy.
 
2013-05-25 11:46:20 PM  

flak attack: Begoggle: with a 4.466 GPA

4.0 should be the maximum possible.
This tells me there are all kinds of joke honors classes that give bonus points, which makes this completely unimpressive.

HotWingAgenda: Begoggle: with a 4.466 GPA

4.0 should be the maximum possible.
This tells me there are all kinds of joke honors classes that give bonus points, which makes this completely unimpressive.

It is literally grade inflation.  A "B" fifteen years ago would be an "A" today, et cetera.

[citation needed]


Really?  Let me google that for you.  Here.  And here.
 
2013-05-25 11:53:01 PM  
I call bullschitt on this.  If she was homeless then how the fark did she do her homework?  Hmmm?
 
2013-05-25 11:55:49 PM  
flak attack:

It is literally grade inflation.  A "B" fifteen years ago would be an "A" today, et cetera.

[citation needed]


Uhh, anyone who graduates with anything over a 4.0, dumbass.
 
2013-05-25 11:57:50 PM  
Savage Belief:

America tried socialism. It didn't really work out all that well.

/Purely socialist societies tend to fail.
//Miserably.


When did 'America' try?   Which purely socialist societies are you referring?
 
2013-05-26 12:03:21 AM  

MNguy: flak attack:

It is literally grade inflation.  A "B" fifteen years ago would be an "A" today, et cetera.

[citation needed]

Uhh, anyone who graduates with anything over a 4.0, dumbass.


So what about those people 15 years ago who graduated with a GPA over 4.0?  Was that, too, a case of grade inflation?  Does that mean that an A today was actually a C thirty years ago?  And thirty years before that it was a D? Wow.  You are a genius.  Well, a genius 75 years ago, but a genius none the less!
 
2013-05-26 12:11:02 AM  
Mock26:
So what about those people 15 years ago who graduated with a GPA over 4.0?  Was that, too, a case of grade inflation?  Does that mean that an A today was actually a C thirty years ago?  And thirty years before that it was a D? Wow.  You are a genius.  Well, a genius 75 years ago, but a genius none the less!

Anything above an 'A' is grade inflation, I would think.   We should just use IQ tests for college admission.
 
2013-05-26 12:16:08 AM  
In all seriousness I should say I did spend time homeless in my old beat up VW when I was in my early 20's, yea lived a lot of the kindness of friends back then. I can't imagine getting through school doing that.
 
2013-05-26 12:17:04 AM  

hasty ambush: Well it looks like her and her sister will break free of the multi-generational dependency class created by the Federal Welfare system-good for them.


Have you actually visited poor areas or dealt with section 8?  People like the ones mentioned in the article are an *extreme* minority.
 
2013-05-26 12:26:36 AM  
The truly depressing part of all this is when we actually hear conservatives use this girl as an example of how the rest of the homeless population are simply lazy, unwilling to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Paradoxically, her rather wonderful example will be used as a weapon to promote even more hostility against the poor. "See - if they only tried, they, too, could join the American Dream instead of just sucking from the government teat!"
 
2013-05-26 12:32:43 AM  

MNguy: Mock26:
So what about those people 15 years ago who graduated with a GPA over 4.0?  Was that, too, a case of grade inflation?  Does that mean that an A today was actually a C thirty years ago?  And thirty years before that it was a D? Wow.  You are a genius.  Well, a genius 75 years ago, but a genius none the less!

Anything above an 'A' is grade inflation, I would think.   We should just use IQ tests for college admission.


Ever hear of a thing called extra credit?  That is how people bet a GPA over 4.0.
 
2013-05-26 12:35:18 AM  

FormlessOne: The truly depressing part of all this is when we actually hear conservatives use this girl as an example of how the rest of the homeless population are simply lazy, unwilling to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Paradoxically, her rather wonderful example will be used as a weapon to promote even more hostility against the poor. "See - if they only tried, they, too, could join the American Dream instead of just sucking from the government teat!"


The problem is not that they are lazy, but rather that no one actually has boot straps any more!  All those homeless people usually wear shoes or sandals or something else, and even when they wear boots it is boots without boot straps.  So, yeah, you cannot pull yourself up by the boot straps if you do not have boots or boots with straps.
 
2013-05-26 12:37:34 AM  

FormlessOne: The truly depressing part of all this is when we actually hear conservatives use this girl as an example of how the rest of the homeless population are simply lazy, unwilling to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Paradoxically, her rather wonderful example will be used as a weapon to promote even more hostility against the poor. "See - if they only tried, they, too, could join the American Dream instead of just sucking from the government teat!"


The counter to that is asking how the f--k this girl is going to pay for college if tuition keeps going up and grants keep getting slashed and burned or at best attached with threats to raise interest rates to stupid levels as a pawn in a negotiating game.

My dad didn't grow up homeless, but he grew up damn poor son of immigrants in Detroit.  He was bootstrappy to the nth degree (worked continuously since he was 14, save two periods of unemployment during recessions, and even then he took whatever temp job he could, studied like mad to get into a decent college, etc) and that's why I got to grow up in a middle class household with a garden in the back for pleasure, not because our family needed it or we'd starve.

But he got a full tuition scholarship based on economic hardship and scholastic achievement to my eventual alma mater.  He still had to work his way through full time to pay for rent and food.  Unless you find a magical job that pays you far above the already comparatively high minimum wage in this state, that isn't actually possible anymore. Maybe if you sleep in your car or the library and take showers at the gym, but even then - the lack of *economic* diversity was pretty damn evident when I was in college.
 
2013-05-26 12:39:31 AM  

Mock26: MNguy: Mock26:
So what about those people 15 years ago who graduated with a GPA over 4.0?  Was that, too, a case of grade inflation?  Does that mean that an A today was actually a C thirty years ago?  And thirty years before that it was a D? Wow.  You are a genius.  Well, a genius 75 years ago, but a genius none the less!

Anything above an 'A' is grade inflation, I would think.   We should just use IQ tests for college admission.

Ever hear of a thing called extra credit?  That is how people bet a GPA over 4.0.


Real answer is extra points for advanced classes.  Otherwise you could slide though on a schedule filled with easy classes and be ranked just above the kid who took AP Calc and Physics and got an A- instead of an A.
 
2013-05-26 12:45:06 AM  
I assume the nitwits in this thread going on about grade inflation were the same ones pulling 'A's' while drawing penises in their General Math textbooks while the real students were killing it in AP Calculus.  Newsflash - some classes are more rigorous than others, this necessitating an altered grading scale

/Normalization?  How does that work?
 
2013-05-26 12:48:13 AM  

BumpInTheNight: Good for her and may she be an inspiration to others.

/Meanwhile, its pretty sad when its newsworthy that someone of less economic means manages to out-do her more financially stable peers at the high school level
//America, as long as 'socialism' is a swear word; your culture will not evolve


I hope every parent of a student at that school lucky enough to have a home turns to their kid and asks, " Why aren't you valedictorian? What's she got that you haven't got?"
 
2013-05-26 12:50:03 AM  
Extra credit is supposed to raise your C+ to a B-.  But I guess some people really like overachieving, or thinking that they are.  Achieving. Anything.
 
2013-05-26 12:52:23 AM  

emersonbiggins: I assume the nitwits in this thread going on about grade inflation were the same ones pulling 'A's' while drawing penises in their General Math textbooks while the real students were killing it in AP Calculus.  Newsflash - some classes are more rigorous than others, this necessitating an altered grading scale

/Normalization?  How does that work?


Good for you.  Tell me about your GPA big guy.  Tell me.
 
2013-05-26 12:57:18 AM  
Yeah, I was almost valedictorian but I had a home with a nice comfy bed so I kept falling asleep when I should have been studying and sleeping in in the morning. Some people are so lucky.
 
2013-05-26 12:59:16 AM  

MNguy: emersonbiggins: I assume the nitwits in this thread going on about grade inflation were the same ones pulling 'A's' while drawing penises in their General Math textbooks while the real students were killing it in AP Calculus.  Newsflash - some classes are more rigorous than others, this necessitating an altered grading scale

/Normalization?  How does that work?

Good for you.  Tell me about your GPA big guy.  Tell me.


AP was only starting to come in towards the end of my high school career, so mine was a ridiculously low 4.13.  8" with 6" girth.  Canadian girlfriend.
 
2013-05-26 01:16:47 AM  
emersonbiggins:

AP was only starting to come in towards the end of my high school career, so mine was a ridiculously low 4.13.  8" with 6" girth.  Canadian girlfriend.

Sorry. the echo from your mother's vagina made that difficult to hear.  Some of us come loud.
 
2013-05-26 01:22:51 AM  

MNguy: emersonbiggins:

AP was only starting to come in towards the end of my high school career, so mine was a ridiculously low 4.13.  8" with 6" girth.  Canadian girlfriend.

Sorry. the echo from your mother's vagina made that difficult to hear.  Some of us come loud.


Touché
 
2013-05-26 01:34:02 AM  

megarian: BarkingUnicorn: hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.

Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.

This.

Being homeless is stressful for anyone.

Being homeless, a kid, an valedictorian is pretty noteworthy.

/hope every penny of her college is paid for


Hope Scholarship will pay for 100% of her tuition for state school here in Georgia (because of her GPA).  But, I'm sure she got a complete free ride somewhere, being Valedictorian of her class.
 
2013-05-26 01:35:02 AM  
It was a struggle but I did graduate #1 in my class!

www.hotteeez.com

Congrats to this young lady for an amazing accomplishment due to her circumstances
 
2013-05-26 01:36:14 AM  
Azlefty:

Congrats to this young lady for an amazing accomplishment due to her circumstances

Yes.  Good for her.
 
2013-05-26 01:36:56 AM  
Anyone know of a way to get in touch with someone who knows this person? Perhaps through the school?

/not ulterior motives
//I swear
/really
 
2013-05-26 01:44:06 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Yea I guess being able to quailify for a school district you don't have a home in might be tough.


It can be. There is a federal law (McKinney-Vento) that helps, and homeless kids theoretically have the same right as other kids to a free appropriate public education, but being homeless doesn't typically mean access to (or knowledge about access to) a committed attorney to point you in the right direction and keep the school on its toes as far its obligations.

Also,"homeless" encompasses a surprising variety of statuses, not just the sleeping under a bridge that immediately springs to mind, and it can difficult to figure out which of a number of potential candidate school districts is right.

In short, totally agree. Ton of hurdles for homeless kids that have nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with circumstance, law, and support. This is a tremendous accomplishment.
 
2013-05-26 01:50:48 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Mock26: MNguy: Mock26:
So what about those people 15 years ago who graduated with a GPA over 4.0?  Was that, too, a case of grade inflation?  Does that mean that an A today was actually a C thirty years ago?  And thirty years before that it was a D? Wow.  You are a genius.  Well, a genius 75 years ago, but a genius none the less!

Anything above an 'A' is grade inflation, I would think.   We should just use IQ tests for college admission.

Ever hear of a thing called extra credit?  That is how people bet a GPA over 4.0.

Real answer is extra points for advanced classes.  Otherwise you could slide though on a schedule filled with easy classes and be ranked just above the kid who took AP Calc and Physics and got an A- instead of an A.


My school's valedictorian did exactly that.  Straight A's in remedial courses, and skated ahead of all the kids taking AP.
 
2013-05-26 01:55:38 AM  
Unless you have been there, you should STFU. Good for her and the sister and their drive to succeed.  I wish them the best, but they probably don't need it because they can appreciate what they have and what they will achieve.
 
2013-05-26 02:01:25 AM  

Ranger Rover: Also,"homeless" encompasses a surprising variety of statuses, not just the sleeping under a bridge that immediately springs to mind, and it can difficult to figure out which of a number of potential candidate school districts is right.


In Colorado, the Coalition for  the Homeless told me that if you don't have a lease or a mortgage, you're considered homeless.

So you have to go into debt to be respectable. :-)
 
2013-05-26 02:04:08 AM  

JohnnyRebel88: Unless you have been there, you should STFU. Good for her and the sister and their drive to succeed.  I wish them the best, but they probably don't need it because they can appreciate what they have and what they will achieve.


Who are you talking to? Did you forget to take your meds?
 
2013-05-26 02:16:27 AM  
UnspokenVoice:

I decided not to call people out, because they know who they are.  Obviously not you, unless you feel it applies and you had left some snide comment,  Some people just don't understand what it's like to overcome such a shiat life.  It's tougher than her achievement of getting a 4.46 GPA.
 
2013-05-26 02:28:30 AM  

hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.


are all fark paramedics a douche, or is this brony's alt
 
2013-05-26 02:59:19 AM  
I'm skeptical. I demand to see her transcripts!
 
2013-05-26 02:59:46 AM  

UncleStumpy: hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.

are all fark paramedics a douche, or is this brony's alt


That is BronyMedic.
 
2013-05-26 03:17:59 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Ranger Rover: Also,"homeless" encompasses a surprising variety of statuses, not just the sleeping under a bridge that immediately springs to mind, and it can difficult to figure out which of a number of potential candidate school districts is right.

In Colorado, the Coalition for  the Homeless told me that if you don't have a lease or a mortgage, you're considered homeless.

So you have to go into debt to be respectable. :-)


Yeah, I'm not surprised, overall. I'm not sure if the definitional standards are a good or a bad thing, because although in a lot of cases they are incorrect or poorly reflective of the actual situation (not to mention demeaning), a broader definition can open up more doors, like to the federal education statute. A lot of my clients were not technically homeless, but were "doubled up."
So, in Colorado, technically, if you slap down cash for like an FDIC fire sale property, never mortgage the property, and live comfortably and debt free, the state will consider you homeless, at least as a default? I don't know what the situation is here in Missouri, but that interests me enough to look into it. I wonder who that classification is ostensibly supposed to burden or benefit.
 
2013-05-26 03:39:36 AM  
The school must have a rotten math program if her GPA was above 4.
 
2013-05-26 04:07:39 AM  

JohnnyRebel88: UnspokenVoice:

I decided not to call people out, because they know who they are.  Obviously not you, unless you feel it applies and you had left some snide comment,  Some people just don't understand what it's like to overcome such a shiat life.  It's tougher than her achievement of getting a 4.46 GPA.


No, no. I left a comment because I'd like to offer to pay her living expenses for her first year of college. I don't think it is snide and I'm not sure why you'd worry about people who were making snide comments, this is Fark. It is what we do. Anonymous pixels on the internet shouldn't work you up so much. ;)
 
2013-05-26 04:24:59 AM  
coldf33t:
Hope Scholarship will pay for 100% of her tuition for state school here in Georgia (because of her GPA).  But, I'm sure she got a complete free ride somewhere, being Valedictorian of her class.

Bwaaahaaahaaa.

<You're serious, let me laugh harder.jpg>
 
2013-05-26 04:27:20 AM  
well it's not that hard if u know the school system ...Clayton County schools are one of the worst performing school systems in the state of Ga ,which is one of the worst performing school systems in the country...so really all she had to do was spell her name correctly
 
2013-05-26 04:42:52 AM  

UncleStumpy: are all fark paramedics a douche, or is this brony's alt


How am I being a douche by pointing out that people on FARK are trying to take the wonderful achievement of a woman who succeeded academically despite her difficulties, and continue to perpetuate a stereotype of the homeless that boils down to they wouldn't be that way if they weren't so dumb and lazy.

This was not "an amazing feat". This was determination and hard work.  She didn't jump through a farking flaming hoop for  your amusement.
 
2013-05-26 05:26:27 AM  
wuchu mean SOME people?
 
2013-05-26 05:41:02 AM  

flak attack: Begoggle: with a 4.466 GPA

4.0 should be the maximum possible.
This tells me there are all kinds of joke honors classes that give bonus points, which makes this completely unimpressive.

HotWingAgenda: Begoggle: with a 4.466 GPA

4.0 should be the maximum possible.
This tells me there are all kinds of joke honors classes that give bonus points, which makes this completely unimpressive.

It is literally grade inflation.  A "B" fifteen years ago would be an "A" today, et cetera.

[citation needed]


Dunno about high school, but I KNOW it's the case at a lot of colleges/universites, even Ivies, over the last few decades.

Buddy of mine used to teach at (redacted...he may still need a reference from them) back in the late 90's; he'd get a call from the head of his department, who'd gotten a call from the dean, who'd gotten a call from an angry parent...if he gave anything less than a B.

At what used to be a fairly rigorous school.
 
2013-05-26 06:11:37 AM  
If she is homeless then kick her out of school.
 
2013-05-26 06:32:21 AM  
If a homeless teenager misbehaves, how can they be sent to their room as punishment?
 
2013-05-26 07:17:43 AM  

hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.


No, in fact you continue the proud American tradition of considering homeless children as being no big deal, not a problem at all, if they can't perform just as well as affluent suburban kids, it's because they're lazy and they deserve to continue living in the gutter where they belong.
 
2013-05-26 07:53:31 AM  

Savage Belief: BumpInTheNight: Good for her and may she be an inspiration to others.

/Meanwhile, its pretty sad when its newsworthy that someone of less economic means manages to out-do her more financially stable peers at the high school level
//America, as long as 'socialism' is a swear word; your culture will not evolve

America tried socialism. It didn't really work out all that well.

/Purely socialist societies tend to fail.
//Miserably.


funnyasduck.net

Why do people keep trying to use unrealistic extremes as a way of dismissing more reasonable approaches?  I have a point but you wouldn't get it, its in Canada.
 
2013-05-26 08:23:08 AM  
I have recently begun a hardcore thinning of "stuff" from my house. I have quite a bit of what most people may consider expensive tools, things (appliances, furniture, gadgets, etc) and I don't like to take the time to sell it, but don't want to throw it away.  So, I sell it on Craigslist for ridiculously cheap.  My dealings with people on Craigslist has lead me to understand why people can become homeless. We live in a world where we no longer have too much competition, that it becomes difficult to find a job, but rather a world where there is nobody competent enough to even fill a job.

In the past few weeks of my new hobby of being a liquidator, I have met some of the most ridiculously horrible communicators, negotiators, and navigators.  It is amazing these people have children that look to them for guidance & support and that our economy relies on them to fill jobs.

God bless this girl and let's hope she forgot all the lessons her parents taught her.
 
2013-05-26 08:38:51 AM  

flak attack: MadTheologian: 1900 in her SAT? Man, how times change. What's the old school SAT equivalent? I thought I was damn lucky with my 1400.

I really hope she and her sister have continued success, and actually get out of poverty.

1266.  Decent, but not that impressive, actually.  I would expect better from a valedictorian.


Nah, that's about what our valedictorian got and she still got into an Ivy. Being valedictorian is usually more about hard work than anything else. Of the three of us who scored the highest on the SAT in my class, only one was even in the top ten - and it wasn't me. I was lazy. The third person was even lazier; he dropped out before graduating and moved down into his parents' basement. Not kidding. I have no idea what happened to him after that.

Anyway, good on the girl for working hard under less than ideal circumstances.
 
2013-05-26 09:33:07 AM  
I've never lived in a homeless shelter or my car, so  I can only imagine that succeeding in school under those circumstances would be extremely difficult. And I think that was really subby's point. Chick had every excuse to be a poor student, yet she graduated number 1 in her class. Good for her, get out and don't look back.

// I had every advantage and was always a piss-poor student in spite of it.
 
2013-05-26 09:52:52 AM  

FormlessOne: The truly depressing part of all this is when we actually hear conservatives use this girl as an example of how the rest of the homeless population are simply lazy, unwilling to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Paradoxically, her rather wonderful example will be used as a weapon to promote even more hostility against the poor. "See - if they only tried, they, too, could join the American Dream instead of just sucking from the government teat!"


Precisely. "who needs homes they just get in the way of valedictorianism. Homeless corners for all!"
 
2013-05-26 11:41:33 AM  

RockofAges: No bites yet and not likely to get any.


Didn't you just...? Oh nevermind.
 
2013-05-26 11:56:07 AM  
Geez- Imagine how stupid the rest of her high school is. A bum is smarter than everyone else.
 
2013-05-26 12:51:18 PM  
with a 4.466 GPA

So bloody unfair that some high schools will grade you at more than 4 points on a four point scale, while others don't.  No one at my high school pulled better than a 4.00, because that was the top of the bloody scale, end of story.
 
2013-05-26 02:43:49 PM  
With an attitude like hers, she will do extremely well in medical school. I wish her nothing but further success!
 
2013-05-27 03:14:15 AM  

flondrix: with a 4.466 GPA

So bloody unfair that some high schools will grade you at more than 4 points on a four point scale, while others don't.  No one at my high school pulled better than a 4.00, because that was the top of the bloody scale, end of story.


Admissions officers know (and have known) which schools have which systems and adjust accordingly. I don't think you or your fellow students wuz robbed or anything.

/our little pile of maxed-out 4.0s all got their rides to Harvard, Stanford, Caltech, Brown...
 
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