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(Opposing Views)   On this week's episode of Some People are Capable of Amazing Feats: 17-year-old homeless girl becomes valedictorian of her high school class   (opposingviews.com) divider line 137
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2013-05-25 09:08:42 PM
In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.
 
2013-05-25 09:27:36 PM

hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.


Was probably also surprised when overweight, not considered attractive people can sing well.
 
2013-05-25 09:28:15 PM

hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.


No, but they have other things to deal with that makes schooling more difficult, so it is a nice story when they can overcome the challenges.
 
2013-05-25 09:29:37 PM
Amazing feets.

www.theeway.com
 
2013-05-25 09:33:51 PM
Well it looks like her and her sister will break free of the multi-generational dependency class created by the Federal Welfare system-good for them.
 
2013-05-25 09:35:09 PM
I'm not sure the hero tag applies, certainly applies more than the hero tag for the anti-homeless guy from last week but still. Good for her.
 
2013-05-25 09:35:32 PM

I_Am_Weasel: hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.

No, but they have other things to deal with that makes schooling more difficult, so it is a nice story when they can overcome the challenges.


Yea I guess being able to quailify for a school district you don't have a home in might be tough.
/DRTFA
//I don't click oppossing veiw links
/Don't really know why
 
2013-05-25 09:36:39 PM

hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.


Not to mention the fact that he seems to think anything related to high school is somehow an "accomplishment".
 
2013-05-25 09:38:39 PM

hasty ambush: Well it looks like her and her sister will break free of the multi-generational dependency class created by the Democrats system-good for them.


Let's be honest, here.
 
2013-05-25 09:40:55 PM
Yeah, well what else did she have going for her?
 
2013-05-25 09:41:19 PM
In before someone makes this thread about guns.
 
2013-05-25 09:41:40 PM
They had cell phones!  They weren't poor!  Thanks Obama!  Blaaaaaarrrrgh!
 
2013-05-25 09:43:09 PM

hasty ambush: Well it looks like her and her sister will break free of the multi-generational dependency class created by the Federal Welfare system-good for them.


Not if they're smart.
 
2013-05-25 09:43:46 PM
Molavian: hasty ambush: Well it looks like her and her sister will break free of the multi-generational dependency class created by the Democrats system-good for them.

Let's be honest, here.


Thanks, Obama.
 
2013-05-25 09:46:04 PM

"In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings."


I didn't take it as subby is calling homeless people idiots. I take it as a homeless girl not only did well in school despite her hard circumstances, but she did the best she could. I think it's a noteworthy story because she has it a lot rougher than people who have a stable environment but still do poorly in school.

 
2013-05-25 09:46:28 PM

hasty ambush: Well it looks like her and her sister will break free of the multi-generational dependency class created by the Federal Welfare system-good for them.


Yeah, I'm sure they were thrilled with welfare.  It's why everyone loves welfare!  So, your statement contradicts your other view that people just love living on welfare, and live well and happily on welfare.  (being that you're a cretinous rightwinger, your views are obvious!)
 
2013-05-25 09:47:28 PM
Good for her and may she be an inspiration to others.

/Meanwhile, its pretty sad when its newsworthy that someone of less economic means manages to out-do her more financially stable peers at the high school level
//America, as long as 'socialism' is a swear word; your culture will not evolve
 
2013-05-25 09:48:25 PM

hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.


Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.
 
2013-05-25 09:53:36 PM
I'm sure she had no help along the way.

/how bootsrappy
//we need more stories about the ones who don't make it
 
2013-05-25 09:53:48 PM
That's fantastic! Good for her and her sister!
 
2013-05-25 09:54:11 PM
Wasn't everyone on Fark the valedictorian of their school?
 
2013-05-25 09:54:43 PM
It's not like she has FARK or Facebook to distract her from studying.
 
2013-05-25 09:56:39 PM

hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.


I've been technically homeless.  I had a place to sleep but I didn't know how long the situation would last.

It's incredibly difficult to hunker down and do work in that kind of situation.  I was just studying for the damn GREs, and even as someone who generally studies better in noisy environments (damn tinnitus) and late at night (damn insomnia) I got lucky that I had a place where I was welcome to grab a corner on the porch, plug in my laptop (not everyone has one) and get sh-t done.  I got doubly lucky that someone shared the incredibly expensive online test prep their parents paid for with me - I'm pretty damn good at taking tests, but there's a huge difference between memorizing vocab words and looking over old questions and being able to take practice versions of a test on a computer.

It's mentally draining when you don't know for sure where you're sleeping at night, if you don't have a secure place to keep things, if you don't have a home to come home to, if you're not sure where your next meal is going to come from.

So F--KING KUDOS to this girl for rising above all that crap and still being the best of the best in her school.  That's f--king dedication that deserves to be recognized.

It's not surprising that she's a human being who can accomplish something; it's impressive that she could accomplish something while being

One of five children, her family only had apartments for short periods of time. Most of the time they lived in shelters or in the family's car.
 
2013-05-25 09:57:11 PM

BarkingUnicorn: hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.

Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.


This.

Being homeless is stressful for anyone.

Being homeless, a kid, an valedictorian is pretty noteworthy.

/hope every penny of her college is paid for
 
2013-05-25 09:57:21 PM
And she's starting college next year as a junior. Impressive.
 
2013-05-25 10:00:13 PM
valedictorian, big deal. So she studied while she was doing nothing. It's not going to stop her from being poor, and she's just going to stay poor so she can use the benefits the government gives her.
 
2013-05-25 10:00:35 PM

BarkingUnicorn: hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.

Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.


Well, it IS Atlanta....
 
2013-05-25 10:00:36 PM

BumpInTheNight: Good for her and may she be an inspiration to others.

/Meanwhile, its pretty sad when its newsworthy that someone of less economic means manages to out-do her more financially stable peers at the high school level
//America, as long as 'socialism' is a swear word; your culture will not evolve


I take offense. America has devolved quite markedly, thank you very much.


/scurries away in a snit
 
2013-05-25 10:02:06 PM

WhippingBoy: Wasn't everyone on Fark the valedictorian of their school?


My school had everybody who had above a 4.0 (extra points for AP blah blah) compete in an essay contest for the title of valedictorian proper.  I didn't give a sh-t, but my mom did, so I wrote an incredibly sarcastic and snarky essay I figured would lose.  Apparently I got to the final round because the teachers who were entertained by it kept rallying for me to get the win.

So nope.  No sweat off my back, I already had my college acceptances back anyway.
 
2013-05-25 10:02:10 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: I'm sure she had no help along the way.

/how bootsrappy
//we need more stories about the ones who don't make it


Everybody gets help, from a teacher believing in you, to your parents making sure you get somewhere in life instead of just telling you can be anything you want and expecting you to figure it all out yourself. To getting a job because you know somebody who knows somebody, etc. Which btw, is still the best way to get a job. IE: It not being what you know, but who you know.
 
2013-05-25 10:02:45 PM
1900 in her SAT? Man, how times change. What's the old school SAT equivalent? I thought I was damn lucky with my 1400.

I really hope she and her sister have continued success, and actually get out of poverty.
 
2013-05-25 10:03:34 PM
Y'all know how distracting shiat like playstation is, right?

If you're living out of a car, you can really hunker down and study because it's boring to do nothing and you have to study at some point anyway.
 
2013-05-25 10:04:35 PM

red5ish: And she's starting college next year as a junior. Impressive.


Skipping two years?  Shouldn't she pay her dues like everyone else? ;-)
 
2013-05-25 10:05:12 PM

megarian: BarkingUnicorn: hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.

Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.

This.

Being homeless is stressful for anyone.

Being homeless, a kid, an valedictorian is pretty noteworthy.

/hope every penny of her college is paid for


Very true.
 
2013-05-25 10:06:35 PM

MadTheologian: 1900 in her SAT? Man, how times change. What's the old school SAT equivalent? I thought I was damn lucky with my 1400.

I really hope she and her sister have continued success, and actually get out of poverty.


About a 1300.
 
2013-05-25 10:07:36 PM
That settles it!  I'm becoming homeless!
 
2013-05-25 10:07:49 PM

MadTheologian: 1900 in her SAT? Man, how times change. What's the old school SAT equivalent? I thought I was damn lucky with my 1400.

I really hope she and her sister have continued success, and actually get out of poverty.


I don't when they changed it, but apparently the equivalent is (old score/2) * 3, so you'd have a 2100 on the new scale.
 
2013-05-25 10:08:20 PM

MadTheologian: 1900 in her SAT? Man, how times change. What's the old school SAT equivalent? I thought I was damn lucky with my 1400.

I really hope she and her sister have continued success, and actually get out of poverty.


they just took part of the SAT II and added it to the SAT. 3 tests instead of 2, total points 2400 instead of 1600.
 
2013-05-25 10:15:38 PM
I was mediocre-excellent in my college prep school.  Finished third in my class, got into my preferred college.  Any more effort would have been superfluous.
 
2013-05-25 10:16:16 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.


I was referring to the idea that people act suprised that a homeless kid can do this. In reality, most homeless are quite intelligent, and are not that way by choice - with the exception of a population of the mentally ill. Thank the economy crash for that.

The general stereotype of the homeless as alcohol and drug addicted bums in the United States is what I was referring to.
 
2013-05-25 10:18:54 PM

hardinparamedic: BarkingUnicorn: Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.

I was referring to the idea that people act suprised that a homeless kid can do this. In reality, most homeless are quite intelligent, and are not that way by choice - with the exception of a population of the mentally ill. Thank the economy crash for that.

The general stereotype of the homeless as alcohol and drug addicted bums in the United States is what I was referring to.


And the reeking of urine? Is that a stereotype too?
 
2013-05-25 10:20:28 PM

WhippingBoy: hardinparamedic: BarkingUnicorn: Has your chemical diet changed recently?  You used to make sense.

Becoming valedictorian while lacking a stable home is an amazing feat whether  you're smart or not.   Unless, of course, your classmates were really dumb overall.

I was referring to the idea that people act suprised that a homeless kid can do this. In reality, most homeless are quite intelligent, and are not that way by choice - with the exception of a population of the mentally ill. Thank the economy crash for that.

The general stereotype of the homeless as alcohol and drug addicted bums in the United States is what I was referring to.

And the reeking of urine? Is that a stereotype too?


No, that's real.
 
2013-05-25 10:21:49 PM

WhippingBoy: And the reeking of urine? Is that a stereotype too?


That's real.   And so is the rampant sexual abuse and exploitation of them, too
 
2013-05-25 10:23:30 PM

hardinparamedic: The general stereotype of the homeless as alcohol and drug addicted bums in the United States is what I was referring to.


Because that's what one thinks of when you hear "17 year old homeless girl"?  Come on now.  Maybe you think that of their parents if you're a knee jerk asshole, but even "they probably did something to deserve it" assholes-who-can't-or-won't-grasp-there-but-for-the-grace-of-God-go-I usually have an exception in their heart for kids.
 
2013-05-25 10:24:33 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Because that's what one thinks of when you hear "17 year old homeless girl"?  Come on now.  Maybe you think that of their parents if you're a knee jerk asshole, but even "they probably did something to deserve it" assholes-who-can't-or-won't-grasp-there-but-for-the-grace-of-God-go-I usually have an exception in their heart for kids.


How long have you been on FARK, now? 9 years?

You know better than that.
 
2013-05-25 10:26:54 PM

hardinparamedic: WhippingBoy: And the reeking of urine? Is that a stereotype too?

That's real.   And so is the rampant sexual abuse and exploitation of them, too


You mean like getting them to fight for a bottle of Night Train? And filming it? And posting it on the Internet?

/good times
 
2013-05-25 10:27:58 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: hardinparamedic: The general stereotype of the homeless as alcohol and drug addicted bums in the United States is what I was referring to.

Because that's what one thinks of when you hear "17 year old homeless girl"?  Come on now.  Maybe you think that of their parents if you're a knee jerk asshole, but even "they probably did something to deserve it" assholes-who-can't-or-won't-grasp-there-but-for-the-grace-of-God-go-I usually have an exception in their heart for kids.


There's also a whole caste of people who would think:

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Dear Diary, Jackpot!
 
2013-05-25 10:28:19 PM
Wow, she had a  4.466 average. She was *that* close to a perfect 4.47.

/Good for her, BTW. I just wanted to snark about grade inflation.
 
2013-05-25 10:32:41 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: hardinparamedic: In other news, submitter continues the proud American tradition of treating homeless people as idiotic cretins who surprise people when they demonstrate that they are actually human beings.

I've been technically homeless.  I had a place to sleep but I didn't know how long the situation would last.

It's incredibly difficult to hunker down and do work in that kind of situation.  I was just studying for the damn GREs, and even as someone who generally studies better in noisy environments (damn tinnitus) and late at night (damn insomnia) I got lucky that I had a place where I was welcome to grab a corner on the porch, plug in my laptop (not everyone has one) and get sh-t done.  I got doubly lucky that someone shared the incredibly expensive online test prep their parents paid for with me - I'm pretty damn good at taking tests, but there's a huge difference between memorizing vocab words and looking over old questions and being able to take practice versions of a test on a computer.

It's mentally draining when you don't know for sure where you're sleeping at night, if you don't have a secure place to keep things, if you don't have a home to come home to, if you're not sure where your next meal is going to come from.

So F--KING KUDOS to this girl for rising above all that crap and still being the best of the best in her school.  That's f--king dedication that deserves to be recognized.


Seconded!!

/Congratulations on getting past your own rough time and on your accomplishments!
 
2013-05-25 10:34:13 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: WhippingBoy: Wasn't everyone on Fark the valedictorian of their school?

My school had everybody who had above a 4.0 (extra points for AP blah blah) compete in an essay contest for the title of valedictorian proper.  I didn't give a sh-t, but my mom did, so I wrote an incredibly sarcastic and snarky essay I figured would lose.  Apparently I got to the final round because the teachers who were entertained by it kept rallying for me to get the win.

So nope.  No sweat off my back, I already had my college acceptances back anyway.


Boy are you edgy. Way to go poindexter.
 
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