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(NPR)   Moore, OK to well-wishers: Please, no more socks and underwear, we have enough to last 20 lifetimes. Send money instead. KTHXBYE   (npr.org) divider line 108
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2013-05-25 04:44:46 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: jehovahs witness protection: Booze and weed for our friends in need.

Just send booze, we got weed covered!


I live in Detroit which is kind of like a disaster area.

Please send weed.
 
2013-05-25 04:48:50 PM  

emersonbiggins: Remember folks, The Salvation Army is dong the moist good.


www.justsaypictures.com
 
2013-05-25 04:50:06 PM  

BitwiseShift: And maybe re-purpose shipping containers, as excellent premade shelters, underground. I'm sure there are shipping containers somewhere that are going to waste.


In case you're curious, stock shipping containers do  not make good underground shelters. The corners and edges of containers are quite strong but the flat sides, top, etc. are relatively weak. They are likely to collapse under the weight of dirt and material placed on top. Bad juju.

I'm sure there's places that modify and strengthen them so they're suitable for such purposes, but don't just go burying a plain, unmodified shipping container in your yard and expect it to be safe.

/the more you know...
 
2013-05-25 04:59:27 PM  
Don't forget prayers! Keep sending those helpful things.
 
2013-05-25 05:02:19 PM  
But, but, but do they have enough cheap Chinese stuffed teddy bears?


Give here:   http://www.ok.gov/okstrong/Donation_Information/index.html
 
2013-05-25 05:09:12 PM  
I think it's somewhere between a) you can't give cash as gifts mentality and b) cash? No, I'm willing to help but I use cash too.
 
2013-05-25 05:09:50 PM  

I Ate Shergar: remus: Donnchadha: Tellingthem: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Gloves, shovels, chainsaws, trash bags.

But since that stuff costs a lot of money to ship cash is king

Hmmm bury bodies much?

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Who needs to bury a body?

Yep, there are other ways..

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Well, it would make a change from noodles.


just looking at those crackers is making me thirsty.

i1207.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-25 05:27:24 PM  

mrjared: Fifty bucks cash money already sent...but if you have excess socks and underwear, you could send some my way. I hate doing laundry.


If you get what I sent... you'd damned well better wash it before you wear it!  (unless you're into that crap... no pun intended.. or, was there?)
 
2013-05-25 05:31:30 PM  

theorellior: It always amazes me that people would even bother to send things like socks and underwear. Cash money travels well, folds neatly in your pocket, can be traded for socks, underwear, fresh water, cold cuts, bread, gasoline, chainsaws or backhoes, depending on your immediate needs. Through the power of the Interwebs I've already enabled some cash to be used in just these ways, and I didn't even have to drive to Oklahoma to do it.

Next thing you know, people will start getting coffee cake, seven-layer dip and cornbread muffins in the mail. "Hurr! I made this just fer yew!"


Still better than prayers though.
 
2013-05-25 05:35:43 PM  

emersonbiggins: Remember folks, The Salvation Army is dong the moist good.

A duck could be somebody's mother.
Be kind to your friends in the swamp
Where the weather is very, very damp.
 
2013-05-25 05:36:30 PM  
they'll get prayers and like it
 
2013-05-25 05:44:52 PM  
I'll send bootstraps
 
2013-05-25 05:47:36 PM  

mrjared: if you have excess socks and underwear, you could send some my way. I hate doing laundry.


I buy the cheap Fruit of the Loom 8-packs at Walmart and throw them away when the skid mark gets two inches long.
 
2013-05-25 05:49:31 PM  
"writing a check or texting a donation isn't always that satisfying for those who want so desperately to help."

Like I've been saying in the atheist survivor thread, people always do what they think will make them feel better.
 
2013-05-25 06:36:28 PM  
Winston Smith '84 - I'll send bootstraps

And we're done.

/seriously, don't you think if anyone actually HAD any money to spare, they would try to send it? Begging for money to help out a disaster is fine, but when people have material things they can spare, and no money, I would think it would be more prudent to send it on. Clothes and shoes do not go bad, so they can be moved on to the next areas of need. Surely someone can come up with some place to store such things if they are not needed at the moment in OK. Or should we just stop even trying?
//and yes, I am skeptical of so called 'relief charities' when I see their upper management riding around in expensive cars and owning very large homes. When I can see that my monetary donation is going to the victims and not to the CEO's salary, then I might give some money.
///If I had any...
 
2013-05-25 06:42:21 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Tellingthem: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Gloves, shovels, chainsaws, trash bags.

But since that stuff costs a lot of money to ship cash is king

Hmmm bury bodies much?

Google Red Clay.

We don't bury anything around here unless you use a backhoe


I have relatives buried in a cemetary out in Comanche country, and I gotta tell ya, that is dirt that fights back!  Red clay and rocks.  Backhoes a must down this way.
 
2013-05-25 06:42:43 PM  
After Hurricane Andrew devastated South Florida, our company set up a donation box.  I looked inside one day and saw... A pair of rollerblades.  To this day, whenever I go rollerblading I sing a little song in my head.  It goes like this: "Skating through the wreckage.  la la la la la... Skating through the wreckage..."
 
2013-05-25 06:53:12 PM  
If victims get cash payouts I'm going to be laughing. How much did 911ers get in charity and whatnot?
 
2013-05-25 06:53:29 PM  

BitwiseShift: Moore has attracted three in the last decade


Wow. They're practically swarming.
 
2013-05-25 06:57:51 PM  

ReverendJynxed: ruta: SCUBA_Archer: Send money, because our charity's CEO's salaries can't be paid with socks and underwear.

Right, because it's so much more effective to spend that money on sorting, storing, and disposing of mountains of useless shiat.

If you're that damned suspicious, simply send nothing, instead of sending something that wastes time and money.

Clean socks and underwear is useless? If they've lost everything, clean clothes should be welcome. If nothing else I want clean clothes that don't smell like the bum I usually sneer disdainfully at while I sip on my peppermint mocha.


They still gotta go through all of those "clean" undergarments.  I know you're a trusting soul, but some people's definition of clean may not match.
 
2013-05-25 07:04:44 PM  

payattention: Winston Smith '84 - I'll send bootstraps

And we're done.

/seriously, don't you think if anyone actually HAD any money to spare, they would try to send it? Begging for money to help out a disaster is fine, but when people have material things they can spare, and no money, I would think it would be more prudent to send it on. Clothes and shoes do not go bad, so they can be moved on to the next areas of need. Surely someone can come up with some place to store such things if they are not needed at the moment in OK. Or should we just stop even trying?
//and yes, I am skeptical of so called 'relief charities' when I see their upper management riding around in expensive cars and owning very large homes. When I can see that my monetary donation is going to the victims and not to the CEO's salary, then I might give some money.
///If I had any...


Actually, cloths and shoes do go bad strangely enough. It comes from a disaster area's storage capacity being diminished by the damage and the conversion of most large scale space to housing and the inherent logistical problems that come with large amounts of largely unsorted clothing arriving. As more and more arrive it becomes largely impractical to store and/or sort them so they are abandoned in non-water proof containers, or in extreme cases in piles at the side of the road. Couple that with the need to *wash* any non-factory sealed clothing in a area with likely damaged water capacity and you end up with a pile of unusable cloths, or resource draining, via storage rent, outlying warehouses full of cloths that require boat loads of labor to make useful.

Its much easier to take stock of the clothing sizes a family needs and buy it off a shelf from somewhere reasonably near by.

/ The largest responder charities are always planning a disaster ahead, the money donated goes to pay for the *next* disaster and not the current one.
// It is also much easier to purchase the little things no one ever sends along.
/// And yes, it it also easier for someone to funnel the money away from something it was not directly intended for. But I still like the odds.
 
2013-05-25 07:08:11 PM  

payattention: Winston Smith '84 - I'll send bootstraps

And we're done.

/seriously, don't you think if anyone actually HAD any money to spare, they would try to send it? Begging for money to help out a disaster is fine, but when people have material things they can spare, and no money, I would think it would be more prudent to send it on. Clothes and shoes do not go bad, so they can be moved on to the next areas of need. Surely someone can come up with some place to store such things if they are not needed at the moment in OK. Or should we just stop even trying?
//and yes, I am skeptical of so called 'relief charities' when I see their upper management riding around in expensive cars and owning very large homes. When I can see that my monetary donation is going to the victims and not to the CEO's salary, then I might give some money.
///If I had any...


Because people should be working for a charity for free? Because if you lead an organization that has thousands of employees or volunteers, you should do it for far less if it is a charity than if it is for a for-profit, despite the skills, experience and even education is similar? Because an MBA is inherently more worthy of money than a Masters in Non-Profit Management?

I don't see any reason why there should be wage discrepancies between tax exempt organizations, for-profit entities or government work, if the work being done is of similar nature.
 
2013-05-25 07:12:09 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: BitwiseShift: Moore has attracted three in the last decade

Wow. They're practically swarming.


The city of Moore was damaged by significant tornadoes on October 4, 1998; May 3, 1999; May 8, 2003; May 10, 2010; and May 20, 2013.

5 in the last 15 years.
 
2013-05-25 07:23:02 PM  
Unless you can personally hand that cash to the person that needs it.......NEVER GIVE CASH!!!!!!

Unless you like buying the "relief" agencies things like, fancy cars, meals, hotels, and fattening their salaries and retirement accounts.

The percentage of money that goes to an actual person is need is near zero.
 
2013-05-25 07:26:59 PM  
As an Okie, I feel I must remind all of you Farkers who want to help that other areas were hit too. Shawnee and Carney are both in seriously rough shape from tornadoes that hit the state the day before the Moore tornado, and almost all the help they were receiving abandoned them after the tornado hit Moore. So if you want to send stuff to them, they'd probably really appreciate it.
 
2013-05-25 07:28:10 PM  

SCUBA_Archer: Send money, because our charity's CEO's salaries can't be paid with socks and underwear.


Yes... oh yes... thats why I dont give money to many charities.
 
2013-05-25 07:32:10 PM  

susansto-helit: As an Okie, I feel I must remind all of you Farkers who want to help that other areas were hit too. Shawnee and Carney are both in seriously rough shape from tornadoes that hit the state the day before the Moore tornado, and almost all the help they were receiving abandoned them after the tornado hit Moore. So if you want to send stuff to them, they'd probably really appreciate it.


Thats sad. They follow the news medias.
 
2013-05-25 07:36:51 PM  
It's really funny how $40 million is what the free market dictates for an oil CEO's compensation but the head of the Red Cross is supposed to eat peanuts and scavenged dandelions. Maybe we should meet in the middle, say a million for each?
 
2013-05-25 07:52:54 PM  

AGremlin: The city of Moore was damaged by significant tornadoes on October 4, 1998; May 3, 1999; May 8, 2003; May 10, 2010; and May 20, 2013.

5 in the last 15 years.


Imagine working for the post office there.
 
2013-05-25 07:58:19 PM  
You can never have too many clean socks and underwear. Granted, send cash too, but there's nothing wrong with clean underthings.
 
2013-05-25 08:01:08 PM  

phillydrifter: AGremlin: The city of Moore was damaged by significant tornadoes on October 4, 1998; May 3, 1999; May 8, 2003; May 10, 2010; and May 20, 2013.

5 in the last 15 years.

Imagine working for the post office there.


I saw a pic of a USPS truck delivering mail to a totally demolished house.  Caption said a guy in the photo was waiting for his brother's mail.  Benefits would go onto  an EBT card or into a bank account electroniclly, so I imagine it might have been a drug shipment.
 
2013-05-25 08:01:42 PM  

susansto-helit: As an Okie, I feel I must remind all of you Farkers who want to help that other areas were hit too. Shawnee and Carney are both in seriously rough shape from tornadoes that hit the state the day before the Moore tornado, and almost all the help they were receiving abandoned them after the tornado hit Moore. So if you want to send stuff to them, they'd probably really appreciate it.


This! Everybody associates Katrina with New Orleans, and with New Orleans being a famous tourist city, it got most of the attention and donations. Katrina actually laid waste to the entire Gulf Coast. Entire towns were washed away in Mississippi and Louisiana, but never got the help they needed because "New Orleans!"
 
2013-05-25 08:04:58 PM  
That's fine.

I'll just sell all my old socks and underwear on eBay.

Like I usually do.
 
2013-05-25 08:09:48 PM  
The point was not that it was bad to send socks but that there was too farking many sent.
 
2013-05-25 08:17:26 PM  
At least no one seems to sent cats yet.
 
2013-05-25 08:22:39 PM  

SweetDickens: Unless you like buying the "relief" agencies things like, fancy cars, meals, hotels, and fattening their salaries and retirement accounts.


Right, because why should people who do good in the world get to retire? How selfish of them!
 
2013-05-25 08:48:52 PM  

pueblonative: ReverendJynxed: ruta: SCUBA_Archer: Send money, because our charity's CEO's salaries can't be paid with socks and underwear.

Right, because it's so much more effective to spend that money on sorting, storing, and disposing of mountains of useless shiat.

If you're that damned suspicious, simply send nothing, instead of sending something that wastes time and money.

Clean socks and underwear is useless? If they've lost everything, clean clothes should be welcome. If nothing else I want clean clothes that don't smell like the bum I usually sneer disdainfully at while I sip on my peppermint mocha.

They still gotta go through all of those "clean" undergarments.  I know you're a trusting soul, but some people's definition of clean may not match.


Probably should have washed this, it smells like R. Kelly's sheets
Pissssssssssssss.
But shiat, it was 99 cents FREE.
 
2013-05-25 09:04:20 PM  
If you folks want to throw money down a hole why not give it to people who actually face a desperate struggle.  Donate to a homeless shelter or a soup kitchen.  Maybe Haiti or an AIDS in Africa charity.  Dirt land suburban hicks can go pound sand with their hypocritical tears for aid.  I'm sure the insurance adjusters have already cut the checks.  I'm aware of the loss of life but a white family from cedar street isn't getting even a second glance from me as they confront a situation that happens on a daily basis in Syria, Somalia, etc.  From what I saw from google maps, the neighborhood looked boring and lifeless to begin with.
 
2013-05-25 09:17:40 PM  
snltranscripts.jt.org

Moore, OK needs your fondue sets.

/They have plenty of little Sterno cans from when the Germans were there.
 
2013-05-25 09:18:49 PM  

AttawaYawattA: If you folks want to throw money down a hole why not give it to people who actually face a desperate struggle.  Donate to a homeless shelter or a soup kitchen.  Maybe Haiti or an AIDS in Africa charity.  Dirt land suburban hicks can go pound sand with their hypocritical tears for aid.  I'm sure the insurance adjusters have already cut the checks.  I'm aware of the loss of life but a white family from cedar street isn't getting even a second glance from me as they confront a situation that happens on a daily basis in Syria, Somalia, etc.  From what I saw from google maps, the neighborhood looked boring and lifeless to begin with.


Don't they already have enough AIDS in Africa?
 
2013-05-25 09:48:22 PM  

susansto-helit: As an Okie, I feel I must remind all of you Farkers who want to help that other areas were hit too. Shawnee and Carney are both in seriously rough shape from tornadoes that hit the state the day before the Moore tornado, and almost all the help they were receiving abandoned them after the tornado hit Moore. So if you want to send stuff to them, they'd probably really appreciate it.


Too true. I lived in NC and a tornado flattened my neighborhood. 2 weeks later, Joplin got hit. We had no deaths so our situation wasn't sexy enough to get any further attention. We still needed the help.

That being said: gift cards. To Target, WalMart, Home Depot, the local supermarket. Even Visa gift cards (safer than cash). There are organizations that distribute them in disaster areas.
Citation is my story above. Been there. Loved the gift cards.
 
2013-05-25 10:10:22 PM  
I'd personally never look a gift horse in the mouth and be thankful for anything anyone gave me out of the kindness of their heart. I'm weird like that, I suppose.
 
2013-05-25 10:13:18 PM  

ParagonComplex: I'd personally never look a gift horse in the mouth and be thankful for anything anyone gave me out of the kindness of their heart. I'm weird like that, I suppose.


It's better to have people send things that will just end up in the landfill?
 
2013-05-25 10:34:38 PM  

I Ate Shergar: Okay, I just posted the most inappropriate and tasteless thing possible in a tragedy-related thread, didn't I?


Don't flatten yourself
 
2013-05-25 10:48:20 PM  
Put the socks and undies in boxes of 100 pairs of each, sell them for $20 + S&H.  Profit.

watch out for the gnomes though.
 
2013-05-25 11:08:29 PM  
I'm gonna send money to that atheist girl, but being that Jesus disliked money so much, I don't want to offend the Christians in OK, so I'll just send them copies of the prayers for them that I've sent to God.  I think they'll really enjoy that.
 
2013-05-25 11:30:39 PM  
same happened during Sandy relief efforts.

I volunteered at a distribution center. we spent a whole day filling shipping containers with the overflow of clothes.

don't worry, the overflow of clothes wasn't thrown out: the Salvation Army took it to sell in its thrift stores.
 
2013-05-26 01:02:56 AM  
Open a website and auction socks for charity.


On the other hand, beggars can't be choosers.
 
2013-05-26 03:46:53 AM  

wxboy: Seriously though, it isn't like there's widespread, massive damage all over the Oklahoma City area and supplies and fresh water are super-scarce.  It's localized to the 1.4 mile-wide tornado path.  So it's not difficult to send someone to go buy a few hundred dollars' worth of stuff at the next Walmart to the north.  And that will be much more efficient then sending stuff.


Cash donations also give the local economy a desperately-needed boost.
 
2013-05-26 05:18:29 AM  

AGremlin: You live in tornado alley, move away from the tornadoes!!!!!   AAAHHHH!!!!! AHHHHHH!

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Everywhere you live, there is something that wants to kill you.
 
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