hogans: When the ladies bring out their sun dresses, I have an outrageous increase in meat.
Marcintosh: Funny (not ha ha funny) there never seems to be an increase in plastic toys, or plastic mops or anything else made from Petrochemicals. Only gasolineWhy is that?Haven't heard a serious answer yet.Couldn't care less about the meat issue, don't eat enough of it to care.
Rik01: Beef prices took a major jump in the 70's, before the gas crunch hit. From what I recall, it was due to an error by the USDA that had more cows slaughtered than necessary. etc.....
Rik01: Beef prices took a major jump in the 70's, before the gas crunch hit. From what I recall, it was due to an error by the USDA that had more cows slaughtered than necessary.Within two years, the shortage was gone, but the beef prices did not go down as retailers and producers discovered folks would pay the higher prices. Naturally, as folks turned to traditionally cheaper meats, those prices took off also, especially pork, which became the 'second white meat'.So folks turned to chicken and fish, to find that poultry prices rose, going more than double with whole birds. That began the practice of breaking up chickens and selling them in bags in sections.It also allowed for companies to take the less popular parts, like the back and necks, usually used for soup and sell them to companies which made pet foods, processed chicken meats and canned broth.A win-win situation for the poultry business.The health and diet crazes hit nearly at the same time and seafood became nearly the Universal Health Food. The price quadrupled almost over night.So folks turned to vegetables -- with the obvious outcome.The gas crunch would send costs across the board soaring, for obvious reasons and later, huge amounts of corn would be grabbed to make alcohol fuel with -- as Congress ignored the fact that such fuel can be made from nearly any plant. Corn, however, is a major food crop. Creating a shortage of it affects scores of other foods.I used to buy 10 ears for $1.00. Now, a sale is usually 2 ears for the same price. American tomatoes doubled in price and then doubled again, which increased the amount of cheaper imports from other nations. The same thing happened to Green Bell Peppers.At one point the cost of lettuce went so high that restaurants stopped their free salad bars or added a charge.It was interesting to note that as the average person struggled to feed their families, we were still exporting vast amounts of food to other nations. Another curious note was that canned vegetables, especially cheaper store brands, did not jump as much in price as the fresh versions. Later, canners would add less veggies and make up the weight difference by adding water.Certain brands of canned Tuna really did this. Probably because Tuna suddenly soared to nearly the price of gold.Many food companies became more efficient in stopping waste -- like pasta makers discovered they could reclaim pasta from damaged or misprinted boxes that usually would not be sold, just shipped to charities for free. Bones from butcher shops and slaughter houses abruptly had several new markets, from being processed into fertilizers, to pet food, to being sold for soup base to the consumer -- who used to get them free.At least one company bakes the bones into carbon and provides the result to other companies under the name of Carbon Black, used in art paints, tires and other things.Others took previously waste sections, cooked them down to get every scrap of meat off and turned out a 'meat base', which would go into meat patties, potted meat food products and show up as processed canned meat spreads.The oils from the process would be sold to the new bio-fuel companies, along with cosmetic, medical and animal feed makers. The bones went to fertilizer plants and pet food makers.Again, a win-win situation for everyone except the average Joe trying to feed his family.Many grocery stores started hiding additional fat on pieces of meat sold packaged, which, since fat conscious consumers cut most of it off and threw it away, turned out to be a good way to get more money from the same bulk beef.Those chicken parts by the bag? Manufacturers started injecting them with water or broth and even sugar to bulk them up cheaply and later, started leaving on more fat that they used to trim off.More profit for them.You might not have noticed, but in many stores you can buy chicken wings by the bag. Drumettes. The previously dirt cheap product soared in price due to the popularity connected with professional sports.Most bagged bulk wings consist of two parts of the wing. Yet, you can buy wings in Styrofoam trays, at a higher cost per pound, with a third part left on to add weight: the wing tip. Most folks cut those off.You used to buy a whole chicken at less than $1.00 a pound, included would be the neck, liver, gizzard and heart. A big chunk of fat would be left in the opening because many folks found health benefits in chicken fat.Now, you get the bird and nothing else at a considerably higher cost. Gizzards and livers are removed, packed in bulk and sold separately. The necks, once used for a soup base, wind up being sold to processing plants which make a scrap meat base to sell to other companies.So, dealers make considerably more profit off a chicken, yet consumers pay even higher prices than before for less.One would think that being so efficient with previously waste parts and 'recycling' them, would drop the price of the meat since more profit is being made.Nope. Not gonna happen.Often a lot of that scrap meat will find it's way into inexpensive meat patties, sausages and hot dogs, with a large percentage going into pet and farm animal foods.Buy canned broths? Makers tend to dump about 1000 pounds of previously garbage cuts and bones, bought cheaply in bulk into huge tanks, add water and some seasoning and cook it all down into soup. Then the solids are filtered out and sold to fertilizer and animal feed companies. Fats are skimmed off and sold to fat dealers.Then the broth is canned and shipped out to stores where you buy it.At the same time, the popularity of things like beef ribs has soared -- like chicken wings -- that the price for a pack of them can be more than a sirloin steak. Especially during traditional BBQ-ing holidays.Like with oil, any fart in the wind is used as an excuse to raise the food prices.Funny, isn't it. In processing we now reclaim and reuse nearly 99% of an animal. Often 100%, when before it would be like 75%. So we're more efficient and less wasteful -- yet we now pay a lot more for food than ever before.We can even salvage rotting, dead cows from a farmers field, process them and turn out a host of base products from fats and oils to bulk meat pulp and tons of bones. Not fit for human consumption, there is still a major market for this stuff in animal foods, industrial oils, bio-fuels and fertilizer markets.You'd think all of this additional usage and less waste would drop the food prices. After all, that's more profit to be made from a food animal than ever before.Nope.
Louisiana_Sitar_Club: I would like to now make a crude joke about my increase in meat.Now I would like to point out that I'm ashamed of taking advantage of the low hanging fruit.At this point I can't help but mention my increasing meat and how it resembles low hanging fruit.Thank you for your time.
autopsybeverage: Yessir, it's a great time to be vegan.
hervatski: Would the cost shoot up because now instead of having one guy put a chicken in a bag you have a second guy who takes one chicken and cuts it up. And now a machine is bought to take the bones and turn them into paints?I'm just asking. Eventually machines will take over and we will be fighting wars on the moon. But we'll need guys who can fix those machines.
GCD: This is one of several reasons I've started to buy locally sourced meat. If the prices are going to rise, I might as well give my money directly to the supplier of the meat, rather than have a large grocery chain cough up pennies on their profits back to the suppliers.I am fortunate enough to live about 5 minutes from Oulton's Farm in Windsor, Nova Scotia. Any fellow Bluenosers here likely know that Oulton's supplies meats to a lot of the "high end" restaurants in Halifax.I'm definitely not a "buy local" Nazi like some people are, but I am happy to know where my meat comes from (I can see their beef cow pastures from my patio), their shop is absolutely spotless, my money stays in the community most important of all: their meat is just leaps and bounds tastier than store-bought meat.
Ima4nic8or: I am going to go give my wife an increase in meat.
mmagdalene: Once or twice I tried to gently remind her that it's bizarre for humans to consume the mother's milk of another species in the first place, but of course that fell on deaf ears. No human being needs to consume animal flesh or dairy products - it's a choice. Of course, food is such an integral part of culture, that's not an easy thing to change, but more so today than ever, it can be done.
panfried: $5.00 for a pkg of franks. Not no but hell no! That conglomeration of pork, chicken and beef gristle. waste products pureed into a pink sludge and gel'd into tube shapes. Sure, I don't think so. Who the fark do these corporations think they're dealing with.
"It takes all kinds of critters to make Farmer Vincent's fritters."
Mega Steve: I think we're overlooking the obvious solution. There's lots of meat walking around on two legs. Of course, we'd start with the vegans and vegetarians, as I hear herbivore meat tastes better
mmagdalene: Mega Steve: I think we're overlooking the obvious solution. There's lots of meat walking around on two legs. Of course, we'd start with the vegans and vegetarians, as I hear herbivore meat tastes betterThis has been my experience. Vegetarians and vegans really do seem to taste and smell significantly better than meat-eaters, both in the sense of having a keener sense of smell and in general just not having reeking breath, offensive b.o. and so forth. Again, as an individual's diet is so cultural and as we generally smell more appealing to those with whom we share a complementary immune system, this seems as if it would be difficult to demonstrate beyond anecdotal evidence.
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