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2013-05-25 09:44:21 AM
Is there anyone left on this planet who thinks fast food is actually, in any way, good for them? People eat it out of convenience or necessity.
 
2013-05-25 09:45:31 AM
badmouth.net

What, about 100 calories?
 
2013-05-25 10:26:32 AM
Again, just ask fatty mcfatty Chris Christie. Lol
 
2013-05-25 10:27:10 AM
It's 100 calories per dollar, isn't it?

Anyways, it doesn't matter--I always order a diet soda.
 
2013-05-25 10:32:08 AM

basemetal: [badmouth.net image 560x373]

What, about 100 calories?


Two threads referencing In-N-Out this morning and me stuck in North Dakota. It's like having an itchy nose when the cops have you handcuffed.
 
2013-05-25 10:34:24 AM
All things in moderation. Move on. 100 years ago most people starved. Now we're fat. It's bad but still better than starving.
 
2013-05-25 10:35:15 AM

miss diminutive: Is there anyone left on this planet who thinks fast food is actually, in any way, good for them? People eat it out of convenience or necessity.


Plus Rallys is farking delicious.  Bacon Roadhouse, every time.
 
2013-05-25 10:40:36 AM
Been a couple of years now since I've eaten at my one fast food vice -- Taco Bell.

Anyway, I'm a sucker for their 7-layer burrito.  Take it home and load it up w/ my home-made habanero sauce.

You'd think being a vegetarian item on the menu it'd be at least in the middle of the pack, calorie-wise, but the 7-layer is one of the highest calorie items on the Taco Bell menu.  Or at least was years ago.  I'm sure they've topped it somehow w/ some other greasy grande offering.
 
2013-05-25 10:45:53 AM

miss diminutive: Is there anyone left on this planet who thinks fast food is actually, in any way, good for them? People eat it out of convenience or necessity.


While it tends to be high in fat and sodium, it does provide some nutritional value. You could argue that consumption in moderation is somewhat good for you, or at least not altogether bad for you.
 
2013-05-25 10:46:35 AM
FTFA: Teenage and adult diners are misjudging the number of calories in their fast-food meals by at least 500 calories, according to a study published in the British Medical Journal on Thursday...... The research noted that teens' fast-food orders averaged 756 calories, and they underestimated their calorie intake by about 259 calories. The adults' meals contained an average of 836 calories, and they underestimated by approximately 175 calories.


That's not how it works, US News.  Author and their editor should be ashamed for blatantly lying.


miss diminutive: Is there anyone left on this planet who thinks fast food is actually, in any way, good for them? People eat it out of convenience or necessity.


No, but this research appears to have had an agenda from start. Are people misjudging fast food calories, or are people underestimating calories in food generally?
 
2013-05-25 10:49:06 AM

Saners: FTFA: Teenage and adult diners are misjudging the number of calories in their fast-food meals by at least 500 calories, according to a study published in the British Medical Journal on Thursday...... The research noted that teens' fast-food orders averaged 756 calories, and they underestimated their calorie intake by about 259 calories. The adults' meals contained an average of 836 calories, and they underestimated by approximately 175 calories.


That's not how it works, US News.  Author and their editor should be ashamed for blatantly lying.


miss diminutive: Is there anyone left on this planet who thinks fast food is actually, in any way, good for them? People eat it out of convenience or necessity.

No, but this research appears to have had an agenda from start. Are people misjudging fast food calories, or are people underestimating calories in food generally?


I'd bet on it being the latter.
 
2013-05-25 10:49:59 AM
What about those people who claim to "eat healthy" by going to those "make your own" salad bars, take one piece of lettuce, and then fill the remainder of the container with bacon bits, feta cheese, and cool ranch dressing?
 
2013-05-25 10:51:05 AM
We underestimate the calories in all food (meaning those excuses about diet not working for weight loss usually arent valid). Fast food is just less healthy on average. Not much to see here.

Everone underreports
Restaurant websites inaccurately report calories
Nutrition labels inaccurately report calories
 
2013-05-25 10:51:05 AM

olddeegee: 100 years ago most people starved.


What? Citation please.
 
2013-05-25 10:55:16 AM

WhippingBoy: What about those people who claim to "eat healthy" by going to those "make your own" salad bars, take one piece of lettuce, and then fill the remainder of the container with bacon bits, feta cheese, and cool ranch dressing?


Leave feta alone! You had to attack one of the healthier cheeses, didnt you?
/but yes ppl put too much cheese and dressing, and not enough veggies or legumes on their salads
 
2013-05-25 10:57:05 AM

elysive: WhippingBoy: What about those people who claim to "eat healthy" by going to those "make your own" salad bars, take one piece of lettuce, and then fill the remainder of the container with bacon bits, feta cheese, and cool ranch dressing?

Leave feta alone! You had to attack one of the healthier cheeses, didnt you?
/but yes ppl put too much cheese and dressing, and not enough veggies or legumes on their salads


But it's "salad", so it's healthy. Obviously, my inability to lose weight is due to my self-diagnosed thyroid problem.
 
2013-05-25 11:00:33 AM

miss diminutive: Is there anyone left on this planet who thinks fast food is actually, in any way, good for them? People eat it out of convenience or necessity


There are healthier fast food options, but they're not as popular. Turns out that salted fat is quite tasty. Anyway, on a calorie basis, if you just skip the french fries, you'll come out just fine. 400 calories of salted deep fried starch isn't on anyone's weight reduction plan.
 
2013-05-25 11:01:16 AM

Krieghund: olddeegee: 100 years ago most people starved.

What? Citation please.


Make the trolls at least work for their food. This one wasn't even trying.
 
2013-05-25 11:01:23 AM

WhippingBoy: Obviously, my inability to lose weight is due to my self-diagnosed thyroid problem.


Nah, just big boned.
 
2013-05-25 11:04:02 AM
Oh, it's yet another thread where we yell at fat people and talk about how people need to be more responsible, without suggesting anything that will actually benefit public health.  Yay!
 
2013-05-25 11:04:45 AM
FTA : The study found that teens underestimate fast-food calories by 34 percent; parents of school-age children by 23 percent; and adults by 20 percent,

"As a result, chocolate rations for every citizen will be reduced by 13 percent, with the surplus being sent to our boys on the Malabar front.

Victory is within reach! "
 
2013-05-25 11:09:42 AM
Did they also do this study with regular food?  If people can't guesstimate how many calories there are in stuff they fix at home, then it points to a larger overall problem, not just one restricted only to the fast food setting.
 
2013-05-25 11:13:32 AM
I wonder if Weird Al's "Fat" is considered not politically correct yet.

/you're not nothin!
 
2013-05-25 11:13:53 AM

Dafatone: Oh, it's yet another thread where we yell at fat people and talk about how people need to be more responsible, without suggesting anything that will actually benefit public health.  Yay!


Better education and a tax on unhealthy food might help, but then there would be howls of "but my freedoms!"

It's a conundrum. The average person is too stupid to look after themselves, loves to blame/sue others for their trouble, but wants to retain exclusive control over what they can do - including eating 5000 calories of garbage a day.
 
2013-05-25 11:14:48 AM
Not just the calories - I can't believe the amount of sodium in most of my favorite fast foods. Just this week I had to start medication for hypertension... I try to only eat fast food once a week, but I am guilty of eating a lot of processed foods and snacks. So my new diet is around 2200 calories a day and less than 2000 mg of sodium.

Not a big deal - I made some minor changes to my daily diet (i.e. low sodium lunchmeat in my sandwiches, no chips, yogurt in the morning instead of a danish, etc.)

But I began to look at the nutritional information for fast food, figuring that maybe I might be looking at 800-1000 mg of sodium in a whole meal (burger, unsalted fries and a soda). But instead we're talking about my ENTIRE 2g of sodium in one meal. Sometimes even in just one burger! I mean, I'm not stupid - I figured fast food wasn't healthy and was basically crap. This is why I started limiting myself. But now I may have to cut it out all together.

After doing some searching however, I've found some 'healthier' options (not healthy, but healthier). Carls Jr., for example, has a version of their Famous Star burger that has no mayo and a whole wheat bun, and if you leave off the pickles it's only around 500 mg of sodium. And their onion rings have less sodium in them than their fries, so a burger, small unsalted onion rings and a medium diet soda all come to around 1000 calories and 1000mg. So that's going to be my once a week treat - but I'll have to make sure I watch everything else I eat that day.
 
2013-05-25 11:22:11 AM

DoughyGuy: Just this week I had to start medication for hypertension...



I need to see a doctor, too, about my blood pressure.  Just started to ramp up a few years ago.  It's in the family.

You're right about the sodium thing.  Anytime you resort to convenience, it seem, here comes the high sodium.  I like to pack a salad or a sandwich for lunch, but sometimes when I don't have time I keep some of those "Smart Ones" or whatever under-300 calorie heat up meals to use in a pinch.  And they're packed w/ an overload of sodium, too.
 
2013-05-25 11:23:18 AM
www.zombiegift.com
 
2013-05-25 11:30:01 AM
Personally, I think they should be required to post nutritional information on their in-store menus, and on their packaging. Use some of that ink for something useful:
blogs.reuters.com
It wouldn't cost any more to rearrange the ink into letters and numbers instead of full-color pictures. Even if the nutrition info was on the bottom of the package, bored people would probably read it while they eat, and presumably not go back for the extra jumbo-sized lard-flavored shake once in a while.
 
2013-05-25 11:30:21 AM
Oh who the fark cares? They'd be just as far off if you asked them to guess the calories in the food they home cook.
 
2013-05-25 11:33:12 AM
I think the bigger issue is weather or not people even know what a calorie is.  You could tell a kid a burger is 800 calories, but that means nothing its just a random number unless you understand what it represents.
 
2013-05-25 11:34:14 AM

Krieghund: olddeegee: 100 years ago most people starved.

What? Citation please.


How many people over 100 years old do you see around? Not very many, because they starved to death. Q.E.D.
 
2013-05-25 11:35:23 AM

OnlyM3: Oh who the fark cares? They'd be just as far off if you asked them to guess the calories in the food they home cook.



Busybodies who want to tell you how to live and protect you from your own poor choices.  They're this generation's version of:

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-25 11:37:19 AM

Snarfangel: It wouldn't cost any more to rearrange the ink into letters and numbers instead of full-color pictures. Even if the nutrition info was on the bottom of the package, bored people would probably read it while they eat, and presumably not go back for the extra jumbo-sized lard-flavored shake once in a while.


I doubt it.  Cigarettes have a big arse cancer warning on the box, yet people still smoke.  If the box had the nutrition label on the McWhopper, I bet most people would just shrug and keep chewing, its just a number.
 
2013-05-25 11:38:46 AM

b0rg9: DoughyGuy: Just this week I had to start medication for hypertension...


I need to see a doctor, too, about my blood pressure.  Just started to ramp up a few years ago.  It's in the family.

You're right about the sodium thing.  Anytime you resort to convenience, it seem, here comes the high sodium.  I like to pack a salad or a sandwich for lunch, but sometimes when I don't have time I keep some of those "Smart Ones" or whatever under-300 calorie heat up meals to use in a pinch.  And they're packed w/ an overload of sodium, too.


I started making my own sandwiches for lunch because I figured it would be healthier than frozen dinners or cans of soup. Turns out the lunchmeat I was choosing was so high in sodium that it accounted for almost a third of what I am now allowed in a day. Luckily there are a lot of low sodium lunchmeats out there, so I'm going to try a few. Also, the bread I usually eat has a significant amount of sodium in it, so I'm going to have to find another brand to try.
 
2013-05-25 11:42:16 AM

DoughyGuy: I started making my own sandwiches for lunch because I figured it would be healthier than frozen dinners or cans of soup. Turns out the lunchmeat I was choosing was so high in sodium that it accounted for almost a third of what I am now allowed in a day. Luckily there are a lot of low sodium lunchmeats out there, so I'm going to try a few. Also, the bread I usually eat has a significant amount of sodium in it, so I'm going to have to find another brand to try.


Buy a big-ass turkey.
Cook it
Lunchmeat for a week. And no added sodium.
 
2013-05-25 11:43:39 AM

Snarfangel: Personally, I think they should be required to post nutritional information on their in-store menus, and on their packaging. Use some of that ink for something useful:
[blogs.reuters.com image 850x773]
It wouldn't cost any more to rearrange the ink into letters and numbers instead of full-color pictures. Even if the nutrition info was on the bottom of the package, bored people would probably read it while they eat, and presumably not go back for the extra jumbo-sized lard-flavored shake once in a while.


I thought that was in the health care law, where the menu lists the calories per serving along with the packaging. I see it at the McDonald's around me.
 
2013-05-25 11:44:51 AM

Dafatone: Oh, it's yet another thread where we yell at fat people and talk about how people need to be more responsible, without suggesting anything that will actually benefit public health.  Yay!


Every time I propose my "summary execution" solution, I'm called a fascist or a Nazi or something equally as hateful.
 
2013-05-25 11:46:11 AM

WhippingBoy: Dafatone: Oh, it's yet another thread where we yell at fat people and talk about how people need to be more responsible, without suggesting anything that will actually benefit public health.  Yay!

Every time I propose my "summary execution" solution, I'm called a fascist or a Nazi or something equally as hateful.


It's the way you say it.
 
2013-05-25 11:50:10 AM

Snarfangel: WhippingBoy: Dafatone: Oh, it's yet another thread where we yell at fat people and talk about how people need to be more responsible, without suggesting anything that will actually benefit public health.  Yay!

Every time I propose my "summary execution" solution, I'm called a fascist or a Nazi or something equally as hateful.

It's the way you say it.


Hmmm... maybe instead of "summary execution" I should call it "Health Abortion". You're not against pro-choice, are you???
 
2013-05-25 11:50:28 AM
One of my wife's co-workers, who had just completed a six week diet where she managed to gain weight was absolutely SHOCKED  to find out how many calories were in that McDonalds she had been shoving into her maw.

She's not alone, it seems, there are tons of stupid people out there.
 
2013-05-25 11:57:12 AM
I don't underestimate the calories in my food because I log my calories. I know exactly what I eat on a daily basis. It's amazing what a few minutes a day of personal responsibility can do for you
 
2013-05-25 11:58:29 AM

The Irresponsible Captain: One of my wife's co-workers, who had just completed a six week diet where she managed to gain weight was absolutely SHOCKED  to find out how many calories were in that McDonalds she had been shoving into her maw.

She's not alone, it seems, there are tons of stupid people out there.


So...three or more stupid people?
 
2013-05-25 12:01:33 PM

Snarfangel: The Irresponsible Captain: One of my wife's co-workers, who had just completed a six week diet where she managed to gain weight was absolutely SHOCKED  to find out how many calories were in that McDonalds she had been shoving into her maw.

She's not alone, it seems, there are tons of stupid people out there.

So...three or more stupid people?


Depends on the state.
 
2013-05-25 12:04:04 PM

DoughyGuy: Turns out the lunchmeat I was choosing was so high in sodium that it accounted for almost a third of what I am now allowed in a day.



Yeah I noticed that too and get the lower sodium/no preservative ones when I get lunchmeat.

But what I like to do most is make tuna salad (again w/ the sodium but not as bad as the lunchmeat) and minimize the mayo and use a little mustard and even apple cider vinegar when mixing it up.

I'll also roast a chicken every once in a while and shred that up for sammich meat.  Thankfully I wasn't raised a salt junkie.  My dad had to avoid salt so I pretty much only use table salt when needed in a recipe.  And fresh tomatoes.  Mmmmm.
 
2013-05-25 12:14:51 PM

Snarfangel: Personally, I think they should be required to post nutritional information on their in-store menus, and on their packaging. Use some of that ink for something useful:

It wouldn't cost any more to rearrange the ink into letters and numbers instead of full-color pictures. Even if the nutrition info was on the bottom of the package, bored people would probably read it while they eat, and presumably not go back for the extra jumbo-sized lard-flavored shake once in a while.


McDonalds posts the caloric value of its food items right there on the menu next to the name of the product.
 
2013-05-25 12:15:47 PM

whatshisname: [.......]

It's a conundrum. The average person is too stupid to look after themselves, loves to blame/sue others for their trouble, but wants to retain exclusive control over what they can do - including eating 5000 calories of garbage a day.


So, what should we superior people do about it?
 
2013-05-25 12:16:39 PM

NewWorldDan: miss diminutive: Is there anyone left on this planet who thinks fast food is actually, in any way, good for them? People eat it out of convenience or necessity

There are healthier fast food options, but they're not as popular. Turns out that salted fat is quite tasty. Anyway, on a calorie basis, if you just skip the french fries, you'll come out just fine. 400 calories of salted deep fried starch isn't on anyone's weight reduction plan.


I never get fries unless it's free.  Fries just fill me up while leaving me still feeling woozy and weak.  Better to get two more of those Angus burgers and get some real food in you instead of shoving the dietary equivalent of Styrofoam down the gullet.
 
2013-05-25 12:17:29 PM
Okay, the hamburger and fries at Five Guys is just as bad for you as the hamburger and fries at McDonalds, so which one do you select as your splurge this week?

That's how to approach this one. Quality before calories, as it were. You shouldn't be eating either of them, so you should set it aside as an extravagant event not to be indulged in too often.
 
2013-05-25 12:20:44 PM

Snarfangel: Krieghund: olddeegee: 100 years ago most people starved.

What? Citation please.

How many people over 100 years old do you see around? Not very many, because they starved to death. Q.E.D.


There are in Europe.  Thats because America wasn't discovered until 1942 (Columbus sailed the ocean blue, remember?)  And old people didn't want to make the trip, so they all stayed in Europe.  I don't remember this myself (I was born in 1976 during the Bisontenial, when Bison still roamed the open plain), but I read books.  ALOT.
 
2013-05-25 12:21:21 PM

HideMonkey: whatshisname: [.......]

It's a conundrum. The average person is too stupid to look after themselves, loves to blame/sue others for their trouble, but wants to retain exclusive control over what they can do - including eating 5000 calories of garbage a day.

So, what should we superior people do about it?


Enact legislation that ends corn and soybean subsidies, develop a working definition of junk/fast food and copy the anti-smoking campaigns, mandate that junk/fast food packaging has warning labels similar to what's on cigarette packs, and incentivice preventative medicine over disease treatment.
 
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