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2013-05-25 12:20:43 AM
Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.
 
2013-05-25 12:27:13 AM

Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.


This is so fantastically stupid it just might work. Although the line about the budget without math might be a deal breaker
 
2013-05-25 12:27:28 AM
In related news, water is wet.
 
2013-05-25 12:44:58 AM

Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.


That's pretty good. The math component, a hurdle for most farkers even when they're sober, is a good hook. It's got legs. 8/10
 
2013-05-25 01:39:37 AM
Obama just can't help himself anymore can he?
 
2013-05-25 01:44:53 AM
Alternate link that is not azcentral

/Because fark your cookies
 
2013-05-25 01:44:58 AM

Notabunny: Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.

That's pretty good. The math component, a hurdle for most farkers even when they're sober, is a good hook. It's got legs. 8/10


Is it question-begging or circular logic?

Either way... Well played, Alunan.
 
2013-05-25 01:48:33 AM
Notabunny:Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.
That's pretty good. The math component, a hurdle for most farkers even when they're sober, is a good hook. It's got legs. 8/10


Yes, mock him for using math. It's easy for people living in blue areas to turn up their nose to situations they don't have to deal with. They would be singing a different tune if they had to deal with the massive illegal immigration problem. Look how they are trying to deal with their gun violence problem, which is more of a probelm in blue areas than red, you want to ban all guns, despite what statical evidence tells you about gun bans increasing gun violence(I guess we've already established math is for people who hate indians and queers so I'm sorry for trying to integrate that in to my point). They don't mind pissing on the second amendment but holy shiat, if you focus on hispanics in an area where the illegal immigration of hispanics is causing massive problem, you're a bigot....apparently...or like math
 
2013-05-25 01:49:04 AM
gopguyhumpingmat.img
 
2013-05-25 01:57:31 AM
If the  shoe neckbone/Skrimp fits...........
 
2013-05-25 01:59:04 AM

Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area?


Yes.
 
2013-05-25 02:03:28 AM

Gdalescrboz: They don't mind pissing on the second amendment


Show me where the word "gun" appears in the Second Amendment.
 
2013-05-25 02:03:46 AM
Profiling works. It works well.
 
2013-05-25 02:03:50 AM
Now if someone will have the intestinal fortitude to enforce this decision, we may just get somewhere... Joe will ignore it, of course, as he is used to being able to pick and choose not only what laws should be enforced, but who needs to follow them. This is useless if nobody stands behind it. OTOH, this could be the beginning of the end for his reign of bullshiat. Too bad he can't be held personally liable, though. Maricopa County's insurance policy will pay out any judgements , and as the premium keeps increasing, as well as the deductible, it's the taxpayers who get screwed. Since Joe made these decisions, he shouldn't get immunity. Oh well, good for the residents of Maricopa County, maybe they can finally recall that showboating, inept waste of flesh and hire someone who knows how to enforce the law better than how to manipulate the media. Oh, and let's head this one off at the pass: Joe doesn't keep getting elected because "He's not afraid to do what needs to be done.", he keeps getting elected because blue-haired Snowbirds from Elk Testicle, MN get to vote as long as they are in the county something like 3 months of the year. They see how scary big cities are, and they think that because they don't get robbed and raped every winter in Sun City, it must mean that Joe is doing something right. This requires that they ignore all the shirt that Joe doesn't do, as well as the fact that most cities have their own police force, of course.
 
2013-05-25 02:06:02 AM

Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Maricopa County SO just responsible for parts of the unincorporated county and the jails?

Also,

denver.mylittlefacewhen.com
 
2013-05-25 02:06:15 AM
arpaio sounds like a mekskin name to me

perhaps he's just trying to divert attention from his own status?

where you from, joe? or should I say, JOSE?
 
2013-05-25 02:06:43 AM

Gdalescrboz: Notabunny:Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.
That's pretty good. The math component, a hurdle for most farkers even when they're sober, is a good hook. It's got legs. 8/10

Yes, mock him for using math. It's easy for people living in blue areas to turn up their nose to situations they don't have to deal with. They would be singing a different tune if they had to deal with the massive illegal immigration problem. Look how they are trying to deal with their gun violence problem, which is more of a probelm in blue areas than red, you want to ban all guns, despite what statical evidence tells you about gun bans increasing gun violence(I guess we've already established math is for people who hate indians and queers so I'm sorry for trying to integrate that in to my point). They don't mind pissing on the second amendment but holy shiat, if you focus on hispanics in an area where the illegal immigration of hispanics is causing massive problem, you're a bigot....apparently...or like math


California doesn't know anything about illegal immigration?
 
2013-05-25 02:07:26 AM

Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.


Citation please
 
2013-05-25 02:08:31 AM

Gdalescrboz: Notabunny:Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.
That's pretty good. The math component, a hurdle for most farkers even when they're sober, is a good hook. It's got legs. 8/10

Yes, mock him for using math. It's easy for people living in blue areas to turn up their nose to situations they don't have to deal with. They would be singing a different tune if they had to deal with the massive illegal immigration problem. Look how they are trying to deal with their gun violence problem, which is more of a probelm in blue areas than red, you want to ban all guns, despite what statical evidence tells you about gun bans increasing gun violence(I guess we've already established math is for people who hate indians and queers so I'm sorry for trying to integrate that in to my point). They don't mind pissing on the second amendment but holy shiat, if you focus on hispanics in an area where the illegal immigration of hispanics is causing massive problem, you're a bigot....apparently...or like math

 
2013-05-25 02:08:56 AM
C'mon, people they are ILLEGALS.  ILL-LEE-GULL!  ILLLLLLLLLLL-LEEEEEEEE-GULLLLL!

Illegal people have no rights under the Constitution.

/amidoingitrite?
 
2013-05-25 02:09:48 AM

Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.


Oh so THIS.
 
2013-05-25 02:10:33 AM

hardinparamedic: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Maricopa County SO just responsible for parts of the unincorporated county and the jails?


They do contract with some of the towns and cities as well, but otherwise, you are correct. Joe doesn't even house "real" criminals in his jails for the most part. 70% of his inmates are either serving out time for a fine they couldn't pay, or a minor offense like DUI, or they are awaiting trial and therefore innocent in the eyes of our legal system. As soon as you get convicted of a real crime, they ship you off to prison.

Actually, here's one of those cities that MCSO contracted with. Seems like pulling brown people over for license plate lights was more important that investigating sex crimes. 400 times more important, you could say...

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2012-02-16/news/joe-arpaio-s-office-s ay s-to-hell-with-the-children/
 
2013-05-25 02:10:47 AM

Peter von Nostrand: Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.

This is so fantastically stupid it just might work. Although the line about the budget without math might be a deal breaker


Ok. WHY is it 'fantastically stupid'?
 
2013-05-25 02:12:04 AM

Ronin FF: Profiling works. It works well.


You're right, it does. Joe has drawn up a profile of the typical clueless moron who would vote for him, and then spends all of his time that he is supposed to be doing his law enforcement duties pandering to these dipshiats instead.
 
2013-05-25 02:13:56 AM

Gdalescrboz: They would be singing a different tune if they had to deal with the massive illegal immigration problem



You talk about statistics and math in your post. How about this stat: Illegal immigration to the US from Mexico has fallen to net zero. It hasn't been net zero since the 1960s. So what farking "massive illegal immigration" problem are you talking about? Oh, that's right... the one you and the other nutters have invented to justify racism and pointing fingers at everyone but yourselves.
 
2013-05-25 02:15:06 AM

Ronin FF: Profiling works. It works well.


Just ask the Nazis! They farking loved that shiat.

/Godwinned
 
2013-05-25 02:15:35 AM

douchebag/hater: Peter von Nostrand: Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.

This is so fantastically stupid it just might work. Although the line about the budget without math might be a deal breaker

Ok. WHY is it 'fantastically stupid'?


Ignoring the fact that Alunan is obviously parodying, but do you not see the stupidity in saying "(ethnic group) is overrepresented in prison, therefore racial profiling is justified"?
 
2013-05-25 02:17:25 AM

Gdalescrboz: Notabunny:Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.
That's pretty good. The math component, a hurdle for most farkers even when they're sober, is a good hook. It's got legs. 8/10

Yes, mock him for using math. It's easy for people living in blue areas to turn up their nose to situations they don't have to deal with. They would be singing a different tune if they had to deal with the massive illegal immigration problem. Look how they are trying to deal with their gun violence problem, which is more of a probelm in blue areas than red, you want to ban all guns, despite what statical evidence tells you about gun bans increasing gun violence(I guess we've already established math is for people who hate indians and queers so I'm sorry for trying to integrate that in to my point). They don't mind pissing on the second amendment but holy shiat, if you focus on hispanics in an area where the illegal immigration of hispanics is causing massive problem, you're a bigot....apparently...or like math


How much have you had to drink tonight?
 
2013-05-25 02:18:19 AM

douchebag/hater: Peter von Nostrand: Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.

This is so fantastically stupid it just might work. Although the line about the budget without math might be a deal breaker

Ok. WHY is it 'fantastically stupid'?


Perhaps because individuals commit crimes, not population subsets.
 
2013-05-25 02:19:45 AM
Only criminals commit crimes.
 
2013-05-25 02:19:52 AM

Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.


I don't recognize your name right now so I have no idea if you're trolling or not. However, I'll bite, because I know people who think this way.

If police could and wanted to target left handed people, the ratio of left handed people in prison would be higher than in the general population.
 
2013-05-25 02:19:54 AM
Are these illegals crossing the border and immediately behaving feloniously, or are they working somewhere under the table? If it is the second scenario, then slamming the tax-evading, law-breaking enablers ("job creators") makes more sense to me. No jobs, no motivation.

I have seen parts of Mexico. In parts, mansions overlooking tin shacks.If I was destined to live in a tin shack because of my farked up society, I'd take my chances for a better life. You'd be hauling my ass out of the Rio Grande, too.

/Half Mexican American
//Can't speak the language beyond ordering a beer and cursing
 
2013-05-25 02:21:20 AM

shower_in_my_socks: Gdalescrboz: They would be singing a different tune if they had to deal with the massive illegal immigration problem


You talk about statistics and math in your post. How about this stat: Illegal immigration to the US from Mexico has fallen to net zero. It hasn't been net zero since the 1960s. So what farking "massive illegal immigration" problem are you talking about? Oh, that's right... the one you and the other nutters have invented to justify racism and pointing fingers at everyone but yourselves.


i don't really care about arizona and i feel like we would be better off if we gave most of it back to mexico, but that statistic you just claimed can't possibly be correct.  i don't believe that immigration from mexico to the US is net zero.  i work at a rural health clinic in california and i would have to think that there are more people coming than going
 
2013-05-25 02:22:04 AM

phalamir: douchebag/hater: Peter von Nostrand: Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.

This is so fantastically stupid it just might work. Although the line about the budget without math might be a deal breaker

Ok. WHY is it 'fantastically stupid'?

Perhaps because individuals commit crimes, not population subsets.


Or, alternately: 100% of Southerners were traitors in 1863 (if you weren't moved out by then, you were an implicit accessory, because walking to the patriotic parts of the nation didn't take that long).  therefore, all Southerners are criminals today by dent of being in the same ethno-cultural group
 
2013-05-25 02:22:15 AM

douchebag/hater: Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.

Oh so THIS.


Yes, it's racial profiling because you are targeting people based on their race.

To put it in terms even a moron should be ale to grasp: Most serial killers are White males. Most Bernie Madoff-type corporate swindlers are as well, same with most corrupt politicians Using your "It's OK because 'Messicans have broken the law" "logic", ALL White males should be arrested because statistically, they are possibly a serial killer, a Pnzi scheme ripoff artist, or a corrupt politician.

On top of it, it is illegal to racially profile people, and even if you don't get busted for it, it gets cases thrown out faster than Arpaio can schedule a press conference.
 
2013-05-25 02:23:08 AM

Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area?



img.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-25 02:26:06 AM
fta "I don't know how there can be a monitor on a constitutionally elected representative," [Arpaio's attorney] Casey said. "It will supplant the sheriff's authority."

That's the whole point, dipstick
 
2013-05-25 02:31:10 AM

animesucks: i don't believe that immigration from mexico to the US is net zero.  i work at a rural health clinic in california and i would have to think that there are more people coming than going


It started hitting the news a year or two ago. More people sneaking into Mexico than the US. Too late to look up the details, as I'm done for the night, but it most definitely WAS news in the fairly recent past. Part of it was from the economic crash, it was starting to be more attractive to move back home, and not a lot of new people wanted to leave. With the economy recovering, this may have changed, but that was what the OP was referring to. Besides, it was never as bad as the (un)balanced people at Fox wanted you to believe in the first place.

Here, I fond a story on it:
http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/04/23/net-migration-from-mexico-fall s- to-zero-and-perhaps-less/
 
2013-05-25 02:32:27 AM

animesucks: that statistic you just claimed can't possibly be correct.  i don't believe that immigration from mexico to the US is net zero.



Sorry, but it's true. According to a Pew report, and confirmed publicly by Jeb Bush.

Jeb Bush: "if you look at the number of illegal immigrants coming into the country, it's net zero. It's been that way now for almost two years"

Report from the Pew Hispanic Center Studies: "the net migration flow from Mexico to the United States has stopped and may have reversed"
 
2013-05-25 02:33:56 AM
If they're Hispanics are that bad, we'll keep ours. Ours get the same bennies as us white people.

/they work better too
 
2013-05-25 02:34:07 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-25 02:35:03 AM
may I add that we verify?
 
2013-05-25 02:36:21 AM
I've been telling people for farking years.

Don't hate Joe Arpaio because he's a carpet-bagging guido playing cowboy.

Hate Joe Arpaio because he's a piss-poor peace officer and an incompetent jailer.

He is the best sheriff that the cartels and the gangs could possibly ask for because he has alienated everyone who isn't white and old. If you want to engage in organized crime in the barrio you have no reason to fear a snitch because everybody knows that the cops will fark them for no reason.

People die in his prisons at an astonishing rate for really stupid reasons. Say what you want about criminals but a lot of them have kids who didn't deserve to be robbed of their parents.

He's a shiatty excuse for a cop and all of you in arizona should be ashamed of yourselves for not voting him out.
 
2013-05-25 02:40:57 AM

Gdalescrboz: Notabunny:Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.
That's pretty good. The math component, a hurdle for most farkers even when they're sober, is a good hook. It's got legs. 8/10



It starts off circular, then manifests into a non sequester, then ends with a semblance of logic.  I go 9.0/10 wordy yet concise
 
2013-05-25 02:43:16 AM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-25 02:43:27 AM

johne3819: Gdalescrboz: Notabunny:Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.
That's pretty good. The math component, a hurdle for most farkers even when they're sober, is a good hook. It's got legs. 8/10


It starts off circular, then manifests into a non sequester

sequitur, then ends with a semblance of logic.  I go 9.0/10 wordy yet concise
 
2013-05-25 02:43:29 AM

Ronin FF: Profiling works. It works well.


Save it for the cross burning Adolf
 
2013-05-25 02:49:38 AM
So are they gonna do anything about the sexual abuse cases he didn't investigate cause the victims were immigrants?
 
2013-05-25 02:50:55 AM

Gdalescrboz: Notabunny:Alunan: Is it really racial profiling when there is statistical proof that most crimes are committed by Hispanics in that area? Look at the amount of people in prison and you will find that Hispanics over-represent their proportion of the regional population. There are no other explanations. You are basically condemning the sheriff for using math. Imagine what would happen to the prison and police budget without math. Unbelievable.
That's pretty good. The math component, a hurdle for most farkers even when they're sober, is a good hook. It's got legs. 8/10

Yes, mock him for using math. It's easy for people living in blue areas to turn up their nose to situations they don't have to deal with. They would be singing a different tune if they had to deal with the massive illegal immigration problem. Look how they are trying to deal with their gun violence problem, which is more of a probelm in blue areas than red, you want to ban all guns, despite what statical evidence tells you about gun bans increasing gun violence(I guess we've already established math is for people who hate indians and queers so I'm sorry for trying to integrate that in to my point). They don't mind pissing on the second amendment but holy shiat, if you focus on hispanics in an area where the illegal immigration of hispanics is causing massive problem, you're a bigot....apparently...or like math


Living in Phoenix, the only problem I experience from "the illegal immigration of hispanics" is that they are out too damn early mowing all the white peoples' yards and trimming palm trees. Chainsaws, lawn mowers and leaf blowers start at 5 a.m. And people that don't speak English at the Taco Bell drive-through.

I feel more threatened by the redneck conservatives. THEY are the ones with all the guns.
 
2013-05-25 02:52:04 AM
So truthfully enforcing the law is a problem?  The plaintiffs need to get familiar with a cluestick, applied by Arpaio wrt the problem of illegal immigration and its statistically proven primary offenders.

/Why yes, I have no problem with Arpaio
//If the border states don't do their job, they end up in my neck of the woods.
 
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