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(Indiegogo)   Cool: Comedian Doug Stanhope starts an IndieGoGo campaign to raise $50,000 for the woman who said "I'm actually an atheist" after surviving the Oklahoma tornado. Really Cool: The goal was met in the first 24 hours. Fark: There are 59 days to go   (indiegogo.com) divider line 510
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2013-05-26 10:15:59 AM  

hardinparamedic: Waldo Pepper: eggrolls: Waldo Pepper: weltallica: THIS WOMAN

IS NOW

A TARGET.

She's gonna need all the help she can get.  It is still unsafe to publically admit you're an atheist in America 2013.

how many americans are attacked/killed early for publicly admitting to being an atheist?

Well, that didn't take much effort:

http://www.abc27.com/story/16986440/midstate-judge-rules-against-att ac k-on-atheist-in-costume
Wasn't for coming out as an atheist 
but a Muslim man comes off the curb extremely offended at Muhammed being depicted in this way. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCD2wigqFUk
not really a threat was it

http://disinfo.com/2010/12/atheist-speakers-assaulted-at-hawaii-stat e- capital-for-objecting-to-senate-prayer-video/

Not a single example of someone being attacked for publicly admitting they are an atheist.

weak examples

Waldo Pepper: eggrolls: It took me an extra 30 seconds to locate a fatality.

http://www.examiner.com/article/soldier-shot-and-killed-for-being-an -a theist

hearsay and motive never proven.

[blogs.vso.org.uk image 300x240]


I couldn't have said it better any other way, thanks.
 
2013-05-26 10:22:35 AM  

RealFarknMcCoy2: I had to laugh at this:

Nemo's Brother: A lot of douchebags in this thread. I"m sure you are not friends with many people because of your atheism. There's no way it can be because you're unpleasant assholes.  Nope. Its religion.

Followed directly by this:

billybobtoo: enjoy your stay in hell...

Yeah, it's the atheists who are douchebags. Riiiiiight.


Yep, these threads bring out some of the funniest writing from both sides.

But, I've found this to be true.
If the first person you meet, that doesn't share your belief, is an asshole. Then you might have caught them on a bad day.
If the second, third, and fourth person you meet, that doesn't share your belief, is an asshole.  Then it might not be them.

I added in the line,"that doesn't doesn't share your belief," but if you remove that, it's still true.

I work with a guy who gets all the jerk clients.
I don't think he will ever understand that
 
2013-05-26 10:24:29 AM  
sonuva!!!

Anyhoo..

I don't think he will ever understand that there is a reason he gets all the jerk clients.
 
2013-05-26 10:33:28 AM  

log_jammin: Mystery Vortex: atheists are every bit as judgmental and sanctimonious as evangelical Christians

when you paint with a very broad brush, you can cover the canvas very quickly.


Yep, for me, anyway, I don't like being around passionate christians or passionate atheists.

Some of the really bad ones have to know what side you are so they know whether to apply, or remove, merit to what you say.

/Only Sith deal in absolutes.
 
2013-05-26 11:24:30 AM  

eggrolls: Waldo Pepper: weltallica: THIS WOMAN

IS NOW

A TARGET.

She's gonna need all the help she can get.  It is still unsafe to publically admit you're an atheist in America 2013.

how many americans are attacked/killed early for publicly admitting to being an atheist?

Well, that didn't take much effort:

http://www.abc27.com/story/16986440/midstate-judge-rules-against-att ac k-on-atheist-in-costume

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCD2wigqFUk

http://disinfo.com/2010/12/atheist-speakers-assaulted-at-hawaii-stat e- capital-for-objecting-to-senate-prayer-video/


Number 1: Atheist did antagonize. What one gets for NOT knowing how people of religions react.

Number 2: From the sounds of it, no one was attacked.... a sign was stolen.

Number 3: That's better, got anymore?
 
2013-05-26 11:42:55 AM  

Mystery Vortex: The great irony is that atheists are every bit as judgmental and sanctimonious as evangelical Christians, and they have no idea. Yet they claim to be of superior intelligence. What a farce.


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-05-26 01:11:44 PM  

Techhell: Evilhippie: stryed: I can't believe that, in this day and age, there are still atheists and believers.
It takes a lot more courage to say "I don't know, but let's find out", and to constantly juggle possible hypotheses on existence while we can.

I think you'll find that most atheists define themselves as not being able to disprove the existence of a god or gods, but rather say that the evidence presented makes it highly improbably they exist. In fact much like most religious feel about just about any other god than the one(s) they happen to believe in.
I think in that way many atheists actually have been on a long journey down the path you describe as "I don't know, but let's find out". In fact studies show that atheists as a group generally know more about religion and the religious scriptures than those who define themselves as religious. I think this is directly linked to a more inquisitive nature among most atheists compared to most religious.

I think you're right... except in the same way that most Christians are pretty much "Do unto others" sorts of Christians. Which most people quite like, because they're quite willing to say "You're an atheist? Could you watch my kids on Sunday night while my husband and I are at a church function? We'll watch yours on Tuesday night in return?". Most atheists are quite willing to say that they can't disprove the existence of the supernatural and leave it at that.

The atheists that we generally hear from in the media are the atheists who say "There Is No God! You're Stupid For Believing In God!" just like we generally hear the Christians who say "Did you just say "Happy Holidays"? STOP OPPRESSING ME!". Nice, polite, well reasoned and reasonable people just don't make the 24hr news cycle, sort of like how only the most flamboyant of the posters here get things heated. The ones who are reasonable and polite we just read, nod in agreement, maybe press "Smart", and go on. It's the ones we think of as idiots that we reply to.


I think that has to do with reason the person is replying.
I always heard, something to the extent, "Conflict is good, nothing changes without conflict."

That is true but, to me, anyway, there are two basic goals to conflict..
1) Win.  What ever it takes, win.  Put that poster in their place and/or show the world your interpretation of what they said.
2) Understanding.  You want to know what led them to this point and exchange thoughts and ideas; you want to know them.

If the goal is understanding then both come out on top.

I get the feeling that some people don't like to invest time in something they can't chalk up to a victory; so they go for the win.
 
2013-05-26 03:17:53 PM  

Mystery Vortex: The great irony is that atheists are every bit as judgmental and sanctimonious as evangelical Christians, and they have no idea. Yet they claim to be of superior intelligence. What a farce.


I've never been woken up at 5 in the morning by atheists wanting to indoctrinate me into their flock. I've never had atheists tell me that I'm a terrible evil person and I'm going to burn in hell forever because the first two humans ate some magical figs that made them intelligent and somehow it's also my fault. They also don't swear their lives and souls to fairy tales and claim invisible beings whisper to them to be either good or bad.
 
2013-05-26 03:57:19 PM  
People_are_Idiots:
Number 1: Atheist did antagonize. What one gets for NOT knowing how people of religions react.


Here's the thing.  Atheists don't just agree with Christians, and this just further shows why.  Are we supposed to look the other way when someone does something wrong because it is in line with their religion?  If so, I'm forming a religion that punches people in the throat whenever they hear them say "God".
 
2013-05-26 04:57:20 PM  

QuestingWolf: Its nice to see people lend a hand, but over $80k in two days to rebuild.  My brother died, his family is having financial problems, and after two weeks less than $1000.  It would be nice to see help of this magnitude go their way.
http://www.gofundme.com/2uomq0


Donated. Wish it could have been more, but as I know, every dollar helps out. Enjoy your month of TF, too, QuestingWolf.
 
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