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2013-05-25 05:54:54 PM  

Farking Canuck: Waldo Pepper: I find it amazing how much time atheist spend in fark threads trying to justify their non belief. That much time spent doesn't seem logical.

The time is spent:

- correcting the misconceptions and lies that the religious spread about us
- discussing the unconstitutional religious laws that the religions are constantly trying to enact
- discussing the blatant lies that the religious are constantly, and often successfully, trying to get into science curriculums to indoctrinate our children with
- etc

Protecting our rights and dispelling lies about us is worth the effort.


and yet you succeed at doing none of these things in a fark thread
 
2013-05-25 05:56:28 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Farking Canuck: Waldo Pepper: I find it amazing how much time atheist spend in fark threads trying to justify their non belief. That much time spent doesn't seem logical.

The time is spent:

- correcting the misconceptions and lies that the religious spread about us
- discussing the unconstitutional religious laws that the religions are constantly trying to enact
- discussing the blatant lies that the religious are constantly, and often successfully, trying to get into science curriculums to indoctrinate our children with
- etc

Protecting our rights and dispelling lies about us is worth the effort.

and yet you succeed at doing none of these things in a fark thread


You have no idea whether that's true.
 
2013-05-25 05:58:57 PM  

gimmegimme: BarkingUnicorn: No more than Hemingway, who wrote, ""There's no one thing that's true.It's all true."

Well, I'm starting to think you're being deliberately obtuse.

grfx.cstv.com
Learned that saying that word was sometimes a bad idea.
 
2013-05-25 06:00:10 PM  
Waldo Pepper:

and yet you succeed at doing none of these things in a fark thread

What an idiotic thing to say. If this is where the lie is posted then this is where it needs to be refuted.

Whether or not anyone is swayed either way is irrelevant.

P.S. How is it not hypocritical of you to be in here posting in support of religion while suggesting that there is something wrong in us defending ourselves? Or is it that you've been religious so long that you are blind to your own hypocrisy?
 
2013-05-25 06:02:38 PM  

John Buck 41: gimmegimme: BarkingUnicorn: No more than Hemingway, who wrote, ""There's no one thing that's true.It's all true."

Well, I'm starting to think you're being deliberately obtuse.
[grfx.cstv.com image 275x264]
Learned that saying that word was sometimes a bad idea.


Yeah, that movie is why I usually say, "deliberately obtuse."

BarkingUnicorn: Waldo Pepper: Farking Canuck: Waldo Pepper: I find it amazing how much time atheist spend in fark threads trying to justify their non belief. That much time spent doesn't seem logical.

The time is spent:

- correcting the misconceptions and lies that the religious spread about us
- discussing the unconstitutional religious laws that the religions are constantly trying to enact
- discussing the blatant lies that the religious are constantly, and often successfully, trying to get into science curriculums to indoctrinate our children with
- etc

Protecting our rights and dispelling lies about us is worth the effort.

and yet you succeed at doing none of these things in a fark thread

You have no idea whether that's true.


What does "that" represent in your sentence?
 
2013-05-25 06:09:34 PM  
Blitzer's a fool.

www.popcrunch.com

How do you get a negative score on celebrity Jeopardy?  It's barely more challenging than children's Jeopardy.
 
2013-05-25 06:09:50 PM  
gimmegimme:

and yet you succeed at doing none of these things in a fark thread

You have no idea whether that's true.

What does "that" represent in your sentence?


Clearer now?
 
2013-05-25 06:12:28 PM  

YouAreIncorrect: gimmegimme:
I don't know.  Early morning Saturday ramblings, but I hope that sheds some light on the difference between your majority of Christians and mine. :)

[www.religiouscriticism.com image 500x342]

That's such a stupid quote. Saying god is malevolent because he doesn't prevent every bad thing makes no sense. Most Americans could help many starving Africans by donating their money, but they don't and not doing so doesn't mean they wish evil upon them.


Humans can't simply think things into or out of existence. Humans cannot create or destroy reality simply by a wave of their "hand". Humans cannot see the past beyond their experiences or the experiences of other humans, nor do they know the future.

Humans cannot do these things because they are, well, human. We have limits, many having to do with our own faults (greed, sloth etc). A god, by definition, doesn't have those limits, and can do anything they wish. Humans can't. This god could change the weather patterns and make the soil in the African nations fertile so that the people there could grow their own food with the merest thought. Why doesn't that happen?

Let's just say that for one day, you could prevent all the auto accidents in one large metropolitan area. With a word, all the cars that would crash into things and kill people could be stopped, just for that day. Yet you choose to go to each of the accident scenes just before they happen instead (because you know about them in advance), and simply watch. Does that make you malevolent, or just uncaring?

If this omnipotent, omniscient being can't or won't prevent bad things from happening on this one tiny planet, in this one tiny galaxy, in all the universe that they created... doesn't seem much like a god, does it?
 
2013-05-25 06:35:28 PM  

rewind2846: If this omnipotent, omniscient being can't or won't prevent bad things from happening on this one tiny planet, in this one tiny galaxy, in all the universe that they created... doesn't seem much like a god, does it?


As some scientist once said, a thing is not useless just because it doesn't do what we want.

It is sufficient for many people that belief in God makes them feel better.
 
2013-05-25 06:36:58 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: rewind2846: If this omnipotent, omniscient being can't or won't prevent bad things from happening on this one tiny planet, in this one tiny galaxy, in all the universe that they created... doesn't seem much like a god, does it?

As some scientist once said, a thing is not useless just because it doesn't do what we want.

It is sufficient for many people that belief in God makes them feel better.


Why can't those folks handle reality?  What's wrong with them?
 
2013-05-25 06:39:56 PM  
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2013-05-25 06:43:33 PM  

rewind2846: YouAreIncorrect: gimmegimme:
I don't know.  Early morning Saturday ramblings, but I hope that sheds some light on the difference between your majority of Christians and mine. :)

[www.religiouscriticism.com image 500x342]

That's such a stupid quote. Saying god is malevolent because he doesn't prevent every bad thing makes no sense. Most Americans could help many starving Africans by donating their money, but they don't and not doing so doesn't mean they wish evil upon them.

Humans can't simply think things into or out of existence. Humans cannot create or destroy reality simply by a wave of their "hand". Humans cannot see the past beyond their experiences or the experiences of other humans, nor do they know the future.

Humans cannot do these things because they are, well, human. We have limits, many having to do with our own faults (greed, sloth etc). A god, by definition, doesn't have those limits, and can do anything they wish. Humans can't. This god could change the weather patterns and make the soil in the African nations fertile so that the people there could grow their own food with the merest thought. Why doesn't that happen?

Let's just say that for one day, you could prevent all the auto accidents in one large metropolitan area. With a word, all the cars that would crash into things and kill people could be stopped, just for that day. Yet you choose to go to each of the accident scenes just before they happen instead (because you know about them in advance), and simply watch. Does that make you malevolent, or just uncaring?

If this omnipotent, omniscient being can't or won't prevent bad things from happening on this one tiny planet, in this one tiny galaxy, in all the universe that they created... doesn't seem much like a god, does it?


Humans have control over a lot of things and yet we let bad shiat happen everyday. Doesnt make us all that inportant, does it?
 
2013-05-25 06:49:42 PM  

Voiceofreason01: umad: As they should be. Agnostics are more obnoxious than fundies or atheists can ever hope to be. You found a way to feel superior to both groups, so CONGRATULATIONS, HAVE A FARKING COOKIE.

so having a life philosophy that doesn't insist on you being a raging lunatic or a complete asshole is a bad thing?


On Fark?
 
2013-05-25 06:50:09 PM  

gimmegimme: BarkingUnicorn: rewind2846: If this omnipotent, omniscient being can't or won't prevent bad things from happening on this one tiny planet, in this one tiny galaxy, in all the universe that they created... doesn't seem much like a god, does it?

As some scientist once said, a thing is not useless just because it doesn't do what we want.

It is sufficient for many people that belief in God makes them feel better.

Why can't those folks handle reality?  What's wrong with them?


Why can't you handle the reality that feeling better is all people want or need to do?  What is wrong with you?

Perhaps you feel small, incomplete, and insignificant, and therefor need something larger than yourself to feel better.  Religion suffices for that purpose.
 
2013-05-25 06:55:51 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: gimmegimme: BarkingUnicorn: rewind2846: If this omnipotent, omniscient being can't or won't prevent bad things from happening on this one tiny planet, in this one tiny galaxy, in all the universe that they created... doesn't seem much like a god, does it?

As some scientist once said, a thing is not useless just because it doesn't do what we want.

It is sufficient for many people that belief in God makes them feel better.

Why can't those folks handle reality?  What's wrong with them?

Why can't you handle the reality that feeling better is all people want or need to do?  What is wrong with you?

Perhaps you feel small, incomplete, and insignificant, and therefor need something larger than yourself to feel better.  Religion suffices for that purpose.


I'm just pleased you keep admitting that religion is a fantasy.  What I can't understand is what you have against reality.  Don't you see the problems that arise when people are disconnected from reality?
 
2013-05-25 07:01:21 PM  

gimmegimme: I'm just pleased you keep admitting that religion is a fantasy.  What I can't understand is what you have against reality.  Don't you see the problems that arise when people are disconnected from reality?


Every time I read one of your replies.

A fantasy is part of reality; it's a real thing.  It has causes and effects.  Its most important effect is to make you feel better.
 
2013-05-25 07:03:43 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: gimmegimme: I'm just pleased you keep admitting that religion is a fantasy.  What I can't understand is what you have against reality.  Don't you see the problems that arise when people are disconnected from reality?

Every time I read one of your replies.

A fantasy is part of reality; it's a real thing.  It has causes and effects.  Its most important effect is to make you feel better.


I'm going to bet that you've lost a lot of money to Nigerian e-mail scams.
 
2013-05-25 07:05:07 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: s2s2s2: gimmegimme: Well, we agree, aside from the quote marks.

So you think I should remove the quotation marks for people who claim to be something they are not, because they don't actually give a crap what the bible tells them to do, only what it tells other people to do?

Yeah, I should take anything else you say seriously.

Why is their interpretation of their own religion any more valid than yours?

They're Christians if they believe in the divinity of Jesus of Nazareth.  That's really all that Christians have in common. If you don't like that, use a specific brand name like "UCC," "Methodist," "Baptist," "American Catholic," or the like.

They're all Christians. What they believe is amazingly diverse equally ridiculous.


FTFY
 
2013-05-25 07:24:09 PM  

gimmegimme: BarkingUnicorn: gimmegimme: I'm just pleased you keep admitting that religion is a fantasy.  What I can't understand is what you have against reality.  Don't you see the problems that arise when people are disconnected from reality?

Every time I read one of your replies.

A fantasy is part of reality; it's a real thing.  It has causes and effects.  Its most important effect is to make you feel better.

I'm going to bet that you've lost a lot of money to Nigerian e-mail scams.


Tell me of one thing you've ever done that you did because you thought it would make you feel worse; one thing you believe because believing makes you feel worse; one thing you disbelieve because disbelieving makes you feel worse.
 
2013-05-25 07:28:29 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: gimmegimme: BarkingUnicorn: gimmegimme: I'm just pleased you keep admitting that religion is a fantasy.  What I can't understand is what you have against reality.  Don't you see the problems that arise when people are disconnected from reality?

Every time I read one of your replies.

A fantasy is part of reality; it's a real thing.  It has causes and effects.  Its most important effect is to make you feel better.

I'm going to bet that you've lost a lot of money to Nigerian e-mail scams.

Tell me of one thing you've ever done that you did because you thought it would make you feel worse; one thing you believe because believing makes you feel worse; one thing you disbelieve because disbelieving makes you feel worse.


You're not understanding: feelings have no bearing on reality.  You have the right to choose to make up a fantasy in which to live, but there are big problems.  Think of a person who believes their significant other is faithful, in spite of massive evidence to the contrary.  Living in a fantasy can result in that person getting herpes or AIDS.
 
2013-05-25 07:28:54 PM  

gimmegimme: John Buck 41: gimmegimme: BarkingUnicorn: No more than Hemingway, who wrote, ""There's no one thing that's true.It's all true."

Well, I'm starting to think you're being deliberately obtuse.
[grfx.cstv.com image 275x264]
Learned that saying that word was sometimes a bad idea.

Yeah, that movie is why I usually say, "deliberately obtuse."

BarkingUnicorn: Waldo Pepper: Farking Canuck: Waldo Pepper: I find it amazing how much time atheist spend in fark threads trying to justify their non belief. That much time spent doesn't seem logical.

The time is spent:

- correcting the misconceptions and lies that the religious spread about us
- discussing the unconstitutional religious laws that the religions are constantly trying to enact
- discussing the blatant lies that the religious are constantly, and often successfully, trying to get into science curriculums to indoctrinate our children with
- etc

Protecting our rights and dispelling lies about us is worth the effort.

and yet you succeed at doing none of these things in a fark thread

You have no idea whether that's true.

What does "that" represent in your sentence?


atheist unicorns
 
2013-05-25 07:32:32 PM  

Farking Canuck: Waldo Pepper:

and yet you succeed at doing none of these things in a fark thread

What an idiotic thing to say. If this is where the lie is posted then this is where it needs to be refuted.

Whether or not anyone is swayed either way is irrelevant.

P.S. How is it not hypocritical of you to be in here posting in support of religion while suggesting that there is something wrong in us defending ourselves? Or is it that you've been religious so long that you are blind to your own hypocrisy?


actually in this thread I was talking more about how at some point atheism will be come a "religion" as soon as someone decides they can gain power and make money on it once organized.
 
2013-05-25 07:34:55 PM  

gimmegimme: You're not understanding: feelings have no bearing on reality.  You have the right to choose to make up a fantasy in which to live, but there are big problems.  Think of a person who believes their significant other is faithful, in spite of massive evidence to the contrary.  Living in a fantasy can result in that person getting herpes or AIDS.


You are not accepting how people actually behave, so you are ignoring reality.
 
2013-05-25 07:37:18 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: gimmegimme: You're not understanding: feelings have no bearing on reality.  You have the right to choose to make up a fantasy in which to live, but there are big problems.  Think of a person who believes their significant other is faithful, in spite of massive evidence to the contrary.  Living in a fantasy can result in that person getting herpes or AIDS.

You are not accepting how people actually behave, so you are ignoring reality.


We're in agreement that people make silly decisions based upon emotion.  This is fallacious thinking.  I know exactly why they do it.  I'm just saying that abandoning reason deprives you of the tools to orient yourself in reality.

You can wish for something all you want, but that doesn't make it real.
 
2013-05-25 07:41:00 PM  
So, this comedian has raised $80,000 from atheists for helping one prominent atheist in Oklahoma. In contrast, the Foundation Beyond Belief has only raised circa $40,000 for general crisis relief for the Tornado. So, it appears atheists may be as subject to in-group bias as Christians.

Well, that's farking depressing....
 
2013-05-25 07:46:00 PM  

gimmegimme: BarkingUnicorn: gimmegimme: You're not understanding: feelings have no bearing on reality.  You have the right to choose to make up a fantasy in which to live, but there are big problems.  Think of a person who believes their significant other is faithful, in spite of massive evidence to the contrary.  Living in a fantasy can result in that person getting herpes or AIDS.

You are not accepting how people actually behave, so you are ignoring reality.

We're in agreement that people make silly decisions based upon emotion.  This is fallacious thinking.  I know exactly why they do it.  I'm just saying that abandoning reason deprives you of the tools to orient yourself in reality.

You can wish for something all you want, but that doesn't make it real.


We are not in agreement on whether people's decisions are silly or based upon emotion.  I have repeatedly said that people do everything because they believe that it will make them feel better.  How you arrive at that belief may vary.  Whether what you do actually ends up making you feel better is uncertain.

Do rational  decisions always result in feeling better? No.  Do emotional decisions ever result in feeling better? Yes.

Now, if you want to argue that rational decisions result in feeling better more often than emotion decisions do, fine.  Back it up with some evidence.
 
2013-05-25 07:49:02 PM  

abb3w: So, this comedian has raised $80,000 from atheists for helping one prominent atheist in Oklahoma. In contrast, the Foundation Beyond Belief has only raised circa $40,000 for general crisis relief for the Tornado. So, it appears atheists may be as subject to in-group bias as Christians.

Well, that's farking depressing....


Yes, it is depressing that the Foundation is so ignorant of basic marketing principles.
 
2013-05-25 07:49:37 PM  
The Billdozer:
Humans have control over a lot of things and yet we let bad shiat happen everyday. Doesnt make us all that inportant, does it?

Compared to a being who supposedly can bring into being all of time and space and matter and energy by just thinking it into existence, no. We're not all that important. Which is what bugs the sh*t out of some of us when we encounter those people who think they are all that important just because they believe in a god who couldn't give two squirts of holy piss about them.
 
2013-05-25 07:58:19 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: I have never heard of a church that refused aid to a disaster victim, or a soup kitchen or homeless shelter that turned away anyone on the basis of faith.  You might have to listen to some proselytizing, but you'll get help.


Which is why the Red Cross says no to those kind of people's offering of help, because proselytizing is in direct violation of their principles of impartiality and universality to all people.

I can tell you of two churches I know of locally that would only help people of their own faith when the last tornado hit Memphis, both COGIC.

Seriously. This is the reason I will NEVER support the Salvation Army, and why I pulled support of one of the local homeless shelters and started supporting another that was secular in nature.
 
2013-05-25 08:22:48 PM  

Lady Indica: kimmygibblershomework: nekom: Helping out a person who happens to be an atheist?  Fantastic.
Helping out a person BECAUSE she's an atheist?  Well, it's still helping, but it's a pretty dick motivation.

same here.  Now if the atheists set up soup kitchens and help millions eat each year, they will be on a level playing field with the christians they despise so much.  i say despise, because look at tfa.  Come on liberal elites, you can do it ;)

/get fsm to fix my shift key, too

We do, we just don't generally do it under YE OLDE ATHEIST BANNER, and when some do...well hey lookie lookie. And as to 'despise' I know Christians loooove to play the underdog and the persecution card, but that's farking redonkulous.

I'm more than willing to bet I've done more for humanity than most 'Christians', and with zero expectation of reward in the hereafter. Nor do I do it to impress anyone about atheism. I do it because I'm a humanist. And if someone can come up and say 'nuh uh...' then I say...WOOT! Great! Awesome! More help for more people, woo hoo. Because THAT is the farking goal.

Suck it.


You just spent 4 sentences tooting your own horn, dipshiat.
 
2013-05-25 08:44:52 PM  

Captain Dan: Offering her help because she's an atheist is bullshiat.  That's like offering a whites-only scholarship.


This is the dumbest farkin' thing I've read today!  The "whites-only scholarship" would be the religious community helping the religious.  The case in this story is the equivalent of a scholarship for Native Americans or some other small minority group and these actually exist without any controversy whatsoever.  Please, go be an idiot on some other planet!
 
2013-05-25 09:03:05 PM  

abb3w: So, this comedian has raised $80,000 from atheists for helping one prominent atheist in Oklahoma. In contrast, the Foundation Beyond Belief has only raised circa $40,000 for general crisis relief for the Tornado. So, it appears atheists may be as subject to in-group bias as Christians.

Well, that's farking depressing....


Why would a religious person need my help? Their imaginary friend will provide everything they need if they pray enough right?
 
2013-05-25 09:23:30 PM  

abb3w: So, this comedian has raised $80,000 from atheists for helping one prominent atheist in Oklahoma. In contrast, the Foundation Beyond Belief has only raised circa $40,000 for general crisis relief for the Tornado. So, it appears atheists may be as subject to in-group bias as Christians.

Well, that's farking depressing....


In-group bias isn't the only thing in play here; it's also a case of the specific versus the general. I.e. people have a stronger emotional response towards particular stories than broader topics that aren't tied to specific names and faces (even when the latter involve a much higher amount of total suffering).

Mind you, both things are depressing in their own right - just in different ways.
 
2013-05-25 09:38:57 PM  

Biological Ali: abb3w: So, this comedian has raised $80,000 from atheists for helping one prominent atheist in Oklahoma. In contrast, the Foundation Beyond Belief has only raised circa $40,000 for general crisis relief for the Tornado. So, it appears atheists may be as subject to in-group bias as Christians.

Well, that's farking depressing....

In-group bias isn't the only thing in play here; it's also a case of the specific versus the general. I.e. people have a stronger emotional response towards particular stories than broader topics that aren't tied to specific names and faces (even when the latter involve a much higher amount of total suffering).

Mind you, both things are depressing in their own right - just in different ways.


If you're going to get depressed over human nature, you may as well kill yourself.  It's inescapable and immutable.
 
2013-05-25 10:04:08 PM  
"Do you thank God for sparing you?"

"Why should I? He sent the damn thing in the first place. Some all-loving and all-compassionate god he is. 'Mysterious ways'? That's a security blanket Christians use to justify following a creature who, according to their own text, turned the world into shiat in the first place by being an awful caretaker and will ultimately destroy creation and send most of his beloved humans to eternal torture because he's unable or unwilling to simply wave his omnipotent hand and fix what he farked up in the first place."
 
2013-05-25 10:05:53 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: If you're going to get depressed over human nature, you may as well kill yourself. It's inescapable and immutable.


That's not entirely true, but even if one were to grant it for the sake of argument, it wouldn't somehow make these things not shiatty. It would just mean that the species is shiatty by nature.
 
2013-05-25 10:08:05 PM  
What she should have said is "I'm actually a rational person."
 
2013-05-25 10:16:07 PM  
I'd like to know how many that decry his actions have actually DONATED themselves. If you haven't donated, but instead are just here to complain about the form that others HAVE donated, then by all means, STFU.

Good job Doug Stanhope.

/seen his stand up live, funny guy, but crude and not for everyone.
 
2013-05-25 10:17:41 PM  

Biological Ali: BarkingUnicorn: If you're going to get depressed over human nature, you may as well kill yourself. It's inescapable and immutable.

That's not entirely true, but even if one were to grant it for the sake of argument, it wouldn't somehow make these things not shiatty. It would just mean that the species is shiatty by nature.


Shiatty or not, getting depressed over it is silly.
 
2013-05-25 10:18:19 PM  

nekom: Helping out a person who happens to be an atheist?  Fantastic.
Helping out a person BECAUSE she's an atheist?  Well, it's still helping, but it's a pretty dick motivation.


Yeah, but he never claimed to not be a dick. It's his gimmick. Whatever works, right? As long as the lady and her family are helped. Someone should set one up for the lady who found the dog, tho.
 
2013-05-25 10:19:32 PM  

Biological Ali: In-group bias isn't the only thing in play here; it's also a case of the specific versus the general.


Also likely a factor, yes.

BarkingUnicorn: If you're going to get depressed over human nature, you may as well kill yourself. It's inescapable and immutable.


Human nature is inescapable, but its expression is mutable under different environmental conditions.
 
2013-05-25 10:44:18 PM  
THIS WOMAN

IS NOW

A TARGET.


She's gonna need all the help she can get.  It is still unsafe to publically admit you're an atheist in America 2013.
 
2013-05-25 10:45:40 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Shiatty or not, getting depressed over it is silly.


When I said that those things were depressing, I didn't mean that I was literally depressed in the clinical sense. The term is just one way of identifying something that sucks.
 
2013-05-25 10:57:20 PM  

weltallica: THIS WOMAN

IS NOW

A TARGET.

She's gonna need all the help she can get.  It is still unsafe to publically admit you're an atheist in America 2013.


how many americans are attacked/killed early for publicly admitting to being an atheist?
 
2013-05-25 11:09:48 PM  

abb3w: So, this comedian has raised $80,000 from atheists for helping one prominent atheist in Oklahoma. In contrast, the Foundation Beyond Belief has only raised circa $40,000 for general crisis relief for the Tornado. So, it appears atheists may be as subject to in-group bias as Christians.

Well, that's farking depressing....


Well, Stanhope has a wider audience. My thought is that he should ask them to also donate to FBB, or make matching donations himself.
 
2013-05-25 11:12:33 PM  

Waldo Pepper: weltallica: THIS WOMAN

IS NOW

A TARGET.

She's gonna need all the help she can get.  It is still unsafe to publically admit you're an atheist in America 2013.

how many americans are attacked/killed early for publicly admitting to being an atheist?


Well, that didn't take much effort:

http://www.abc27.com/story/16986440/midstate-judge-rules-against-att ac k-on-atheist-in-costume

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCD2wigqFUk

http://disinfo.com/2010/12/atheist-speakers-assaulted-at-hawaii-stat e- capital-for-objecting-to-senate-prayer-video/
 
2013-05-25 11:15:26 PM  
It took me an extra 30 seconds to locate a fatality.

http://www.examiner.com/article/soldier-shot-and-killed-for-being-an -a theist
 
2013-05-25 11:21:08 PM  

eggrolls: Waldo Pepper: weltallica: THIS WOMAN

IS NOW

A TARGET.

She's gonna need all the help she can get.  It is still unsafe to publically admit you're an atheist in America 2013.

how many americans are attacked/killed early for publicly admitting to being an atheist?

Well, that didn't take much effort:

http://www.abc27.com/story/16986440/midstate-judge-rules-against-att ac k-on-atheist-in-costume

Wasn't for coming out as an atheist 
but a Muslim man comes off the curb extremely offended at Muhammed being depicted in this way. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCD2wigqFUk
not really a threat was it

http://disinfo.com/2010/12/atheist-speakers-assaulted-at-hawaii-stat e- capital-for-objecting-to-senate-prayer-video/

Not a single example of someone being attacked for publicly admitting they are an atheist.

weak examples
 
2013-05-25 11:24:18 PM  

eggrolls: It took me an extra 30 seconds to locate a fatality.

http://www.examiner.com/article/soldier-shot-and-killed-for-being-an -a theist


hearsay and motive never proven.
 
2013-05-25 11:27:34 PM  

Waldo Pepper: eggrolls: Waldo Pepper: weltallica: THIS WOMAN

IS NOW

A TARGET.

She's gonna need all the help she can get.  It is still unsafe to publically admit you're an atheist in America 2013.

how many americans are attacked/killed early for publicly admitting to being an atheist?

Well, that didn't take much effort:

http://www.abc27.com/story/16986440/midstate-judge-rules-against-att ac k-on-atheist-in-costume
Wasn't for coming out as an atheist 
but a Muslim man comes off the curb extremely offended at Muhammed being depicted in this way. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCD2wigqFUk
not really a threat was it

http://disinfo.com/2010/12/atheist-speakers-assaulted-at-hawaii-stat e- capital-for-objecting-to-senate-prayer-video/

Not a single example of someone being attacked for publicly admitting they are an atheist.

weak examples


Waldo Pepper: eggrolls: It took me an extra 30 seconds to locate a fatality.

http://www.examiner.com/article/soldier-shot-and-killed-for-being-an -a theist

hearsay and motive never proven.


blogs.vso.org.uk
 
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