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(BBC)   12 people get unhappy ending at Baghdad brothel   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 64
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2013-05-24 02:49:09 PM  
Prostitution is illegal and against Islam!

Murder... eh... not so much.
 
2013-05-24 02:56:38 PM  
marrying a woman and divorcing her in the space of an hour is legal tho.
 
2013-05-24 03:56:30 PM  
Hypocrites come in all brands.
 
2013-05-24 06:27:16 PM  
Baghdad is where whores go?!?

That doesn't sound right!
 
2013-05-24 06:29:22 PM  
"Prostitution is prohibited under Islam, the dominant religion in Iraq. "

Lies, you just marry her by the hour and it is totally legal.

sithon: marrying a woman and divorcing her in the space of an hour is legal tho.


DAMMIT
 
2013-05-24 06:32:44 PM  

sithon: marrying a woman and divorcing her in the space of an hour is legal tho.


If you're referring to the Nikah mut'ah, that is actually pretty hotly debated, both within Shia Islam and between Shias and Sunnis. Even the legalistic sources on it are pretty contradictory.
 
2013-05-24 06:36:52 PM  

namatad: Lies, you just marry her by the hour and it is totally legal.


i.imgur.com

What temporary marriage might look like:
 
2013-05-24 07:24:17 PM  
Another backwards country we never should have gotten involved with.
 
2013-05-24 07:31:53 PM  
Keep Calm and Keep Hump'in
 
2013-05-24 07:34:36 PM  
So now it's wrong to impose one's personal religious beliefs on the behavior of others?
 
2013-05-24 07:34:44 PM  
www.thegauntlet.com

/Babylon's whores frown upon this news.
 
2013-05-24 07:39:49 PM  
It's starting to seem like invading them may have been a mistake.
 
2013-05-24 07:41:05 PM  

MichiganFTL: Prostitution is illegal and against Islam!

Murder... eh... not so much.


Prostitution is perfectly legal under Islam, you just have to do it right.  They don't call it prostitution, they call it temporary marriage.  Observe the formalities and you're ok.
 
2013-05-24 07:42:39 PM  
Make your all-powerful invisible sky-wizard happy by doing his work for him.
FAST track to paradise.
 
2013-05-24 07:42:50 PM  

davidphogan: It's starting to seem like invading them may have been a mistake.


Now don't go all crazy and jump to conclusions.
 
2013-05-24 07:51:26 PM  

Mantour: [www.thegauntlet.com image 500x334]

/Babylon's whores frown upon this news.


Is that Metallica cosplay?
 
2013-05-24 07:52:43 PM  
Why don't they just make women illegal and be done with it?
 
2013-05-24 08:01:01 PM  

Old enough to know better: Why don't they just make women illegal and be done with it?


They can't, Not enough goats to go around.
 
2013-05-24 08:06:37 PM  
While this situation is certainly sad, the ironic tag would also be appropriate here. If the gunmen would have instead went into the brothel and had sex, maybe they'd be lose some of that tension and feel less like killing people. Life is much more pleasant when you're seeking out happiness and fulfillment rather than freaking out about others having values and lifestyles different from your own. This is part of why fundamentalism is an inherently toxic approach to religion, not just as a social problem, but it's even toxic for the followers of fundamentalist doctrine - it just sets you up for a life of misery because it focuses largely on condemning things outside of the rules and builds a view of reality based on negativity.
 
2013-05-24 08:06:44 PM  
See, this is another reason I hate religion, makes zealots who just want to fark things up for people who just want to up and fark...

/seriously, let them fark in peace and I'll let you pray in peace to your spaghetti monster in the sky
 
2013-05-24 08:13:44 PM  
If you were with a dead hooker with bullet holes in her... would you play "pick a hole"?
 
2013-05-24 08:18:11 PM  
You might be a terrorist if you have a moral objection to prostitutes but none toward killing them.
You might be a terrorist if you own four women but have no idea what a clitoris is.
You might be a terrorist if your 'university's' dorms are also the donkey stables.
You might be a terrorist if you think an educated woman is a threat.
 
2013-05-24 08:19:05 PM  
Religion of peeeeeeeaaaace!

/Fark 'em
//Desert of glass as far as the eye can see
 
2013-05-24 08:19:07 PM  

Ryker's Peninsula: If you were with a dead hooker with bullet holes in her... would you play "pick a hole"?


I'd still get the wrong hole
 
2013-05-24 08:29:01 PM  
SURPRISE ISLAM!
 
2013-05-24 08:30:57 PM  
really REALLY getting tired of Fundies.

What do the various sky wizards say about murdering Fundies?
 
2013-05-24 08:32:01 PM  

Miss Behavyn: You might be a terrorist if you have a moral objection to prostitutes but none toward killing them.
You might be a terrorist if you own four women but have no idea what a clitoris is.
You might be a terrorist if your 'university's' dorms are also the donkey stables.
You might be a terrorist if you think a educated woman is a threat.


FTFY
 
2013-05-24 08:53:16 PM  
I'm sure there's a job out there in the modern world more dangerous than 'prostitute in an unstable Middle Eastern country', but can't really think of one off hand.
 
2013-05-24 08:53:23 PM  
Wow. TFA says they were "armed gunmen" - the very worst kind of gunmen!
 
2013-05-24 08:59:12 PM  

No Time To Explain: See, this is another reason I hate religion, makes zealots who just want to fark things up for people who just want to up and fark...

/seriously, let them fark in peace and I'll let you pray in peace to your spaghetti monster in the sky


R'Amen Brother
 
2013-05-24 09:06:14 PM  

BokerBill: Wow. TFA says they were "armed gunmen" - the very worst kind of gunmen!


At least there wasn't a stripper with a gun leg.
 
2013-05-24 09:11:51 PM  
Are temporary paid marriages still ok?

Silly Islam, sex is for Yids.
 
2013-05-24 09:13:17 PM  
While its easy for us to point and blame Islam, there is a high likelyhood this was just gangs warring over turf and money.  It isnt much different than early 1900's American gangserism over there at the moment.
 
2013-05-24 09:15:22 PM  
No one is upset about the liquor stores?
Slipping...
 
2013-05-24 09:18:12 PM  

Somacandra: namatad: Lies, you just marry her by the hour and it is totally legal.

[i.imgur.com image 320x240]

What temporary marriage might look like:


...and sounds like

"::gasp: Oooh... oh yeah! Oh that's good. Oh don't stop, oh yeah! Faster! Faster! Faster! FASTER! Oooh you do that like a pro!"
 
2013-05-24 09:30:54 PM  

Somacandra: sithon: marrying a woman and divorcing her in the space of an hour is legal tho.

If you're referring to the Nikah mut'ah, that is actually pretty hotly debated, both within Shia Islam and between Shias and Sunnis. Even the legalistic sources on it are pretty contradictory.


debated because they want to pretend that it isnt true?
legal? well in countries where sharia law is the law, how would it not be legal?
ROFL

Oh wait, people have different interpretations of ancient texts??
 
2013-05-24 09:40:51 PM  

Mugato: Mantour: [www.thegauntlet.com image 500x334]

/Babylon's whores frown upon this news.

Is that Metallica cosplay?


Thats the same damn thing I thought
 
2013-05-24 09:41:51 PM  

Marcintosh: really REALLY getting tired of Fundies.

What do the various sky wizards say about murdering Fundies?


Who cares. It's a wizard. All he expects is that you kill em with pizzaz
 
2013-05-24 09:43:03 PM  
I wonder how many Iraqis, even the shiates, would prefer Saddam's rule over the current mess.
 
2013-05-24 09:47:59 PM  
"Prostitution is prohibited under Islam, the dominant religion in Iraq. "
"Seven women and five men have been shot dead in a brothel in Baghdad, state and medical officials say. "

img.pandawhale.com
 
2013-05-24 09:49:30 PM  

BokerBill: Wow. TFA says they were "armed gunmen" - the very worst kind of gunmen!


I am still fearful of amputee gunmen.
 
2013-05-24 10:02:04 PM  
I'm kind of shocked that there are brothels and liquor stores in iraq in the first place. Learn something new everyday.
 
2013-05-24 10:29:46 PM  

Mantour: [www.thegauntlet.com image 500x334]

/Babylon's whores frown upon this news.


25.media.tumblr.com
Me too.
 
2013-05-24 10:30:52 PM  
Thanks, Bush. Just don't call it a civil war. They haven't attacked Fort Sumter yet.
 
2013-05-24 10:32:10 PM  
Good thing we brought them freedom and democracy with the blood of our sons and daughters.
 
2013-05-24 10:41:11 PM  

namatad: Somacandra: sithon: marrying a woman and divorcing her in the space of an hour is legal tho.

If you're referring to the Nikah mut'ah, that is actually pretty hotly debated, both within Shia Islam and between Shias and Sunnis. Even the legalistic sources on it are pretty contradictory.

debated because they want to pretend that it isnt true?
legal? well in countries where sharia law is the law, how would it not be legal?
ROFL

Oh wait, people have different interpretations of ancient texts??


Nikah mut'ah seems to be more of a shiate thing, and mainly in Iran. I'm sure it exists elsewhere, but it's not common. And it really wouldn't help with prostitution, because the woman is supposed to wait a month before getting married again, so that if she turns out to be pregnant, the father will be known. So unless the pro only does one trick per month, she'd still be against the rules.
 
2013-05-24 10:52:58 PM  

Mock26: Good thing we brought them freedom and democracy with the blood of our sons and daughters.


Majority rules.  It's just important to understand that the majority wants to kill infidels.
 
2013-05-24 11:22:14 PM  
If religion in general would just say drugs and prostitution are cool, it would become uncool and no one would do either. Basic child psychology.
 
2013-05-24 11:35:23 PM  
I cannot imagine how nasty the whores are in a Baghdad brothel, and how hard up the dudes have to fark them.
 
2013-05-24 11:56:27 PM  

fat boy: Old enough to know better: Why don't they just make women illegal and be done with it?

They can't, Not enough goats to go around.


(that's Afghanistan)
 
2013-05-25 01:20:19 AM  
Not getting a kick because coworker's aunt along with her husband and five kids were vaporized, whatever happens to the human body, in a market place explosion. They only found the husband's ID so they have nothing to bury.

/Wonders if all the bullshiat here is worth it
//Then bastards overseas remind him it is
 
2013-05-25 02:03:23 AM  

fat boy: Old enough to know better: Why don't they just make women illegal and be done with it?

They can't, Not enough goats to go around.


they prefer camels?
 
2013-05-25 02:46:42 AM  
Don't worry here.  Religious rules get in the way here but there are workarounds.

We all know females with their sexual attraction are to be feared and controlled.

But what if we allowed younger attractive boys to dance, like in Afghanistan.  And who knows what happens behind the scenes.  And the cool part, it isn't really even 'gay', because it is just an accommodation to the human sex drive when religious rules get in the way.

Think about it Iraq.
 
2013-05-25 03:47:54 AM  
And just last week, the presumably same gunmen attacked some liquor stores, killing 10 Christians working there, but allowing the Muslim customers to leave unharmed. Nice people, there.
 
2013-05-25 04:32:00 AM  

MichiganFTL: Prostitution is illegal and against Islam!

Murder... eh... not so much.


That's the irony of this.
Even though in the Quraan it says (my understanding) that to kill a person without justification is like killing all of mankind.
Fornication is only on penalty of death if the person is married and (get this) four witnesses see 'the act' as clearly as the eyeliner going into its bottle.


As for the "temporary marriage" that is only a shiate thing.
Even then, theoretically speaking, the woman should wait three menstrual cycles before getting married again.
However, not only are the woman there lax with this, the shiate scholars have decreed a "don't ask don't tell" policy. Even if the woman is married, don't ask her.
So if the woman does get pregnant, they have no idea who the father is.

Just to reiterate, this is NOT as per orthodox Islam.
 
2013-05-25 04:42:08 AM  

Ronin_S: I'm sure there's a job out there in the modern world more dangerous than 'prostitute in an unstable Middle Eastern country', but can't really think of one off hand.


Polish Mine detector?
 
2013-05-25 07:05:11 AM  
Well, I'm glad to see that things are under control over there.
 
2013-05-25 07:30:24 AM  

Befuddled: I wonder how many Iraqis, even the shiates, would prefer Saddam's rule over the current mess.


Given the choice, I would always rather be ruled by a "warlord dictator" (someone who wants money and power) than a religious theocracy, or even to live in a democracy where people don't have liberal values, where you get tyranny by the majority.

Persepolis tells this story pretty well. Under the Shah, people who opposed his rule got tortured and brutalised, but actually Joe Sixpack had a pretty good life. Or at least, certainly compared to the religious theocracy that followed.
 
2013-05-25 07:59:59 AM  

Befuddled: I wonder how many Iraqis, even the shiates, would prefer Saddam's rule over the current mess.


The 3 million Iraqis who have fled the country?
 
2013-05-25 08:38:09 AM  
No sex and booze makes me grumpy too, but at least I don't get all shooty.

/ maybe they should try the sex and booze once and chill the fark out
 
2013-05-25 09:19:28 AM  
Religion of peace!

/unless you like what I don't like
//magical sky aladdin told me to kill you.
 
2013-05-25 09:26:47 AM  

symptomoftheuniverse: I'm kind of shocked that there are brothels and liquor stores in iraq in the first place. Learn something new everyday.


FTA:

Only a week ago, a row of alcohol shops in the district was attacked by gunmen. Ten Christians working in the shops were killed, while customers were allowed to leave unharmed.

You see, it's like this:  Pious Muslims don't run whorehouses or liquor stores, so the Christian population in Iraq took up the business.  The fact that their customers are all the same pious Muslims who wouldn't be caught dead running the place is a minor quibble.  It's no different, really, than your southern Baptist railing against demon alcohol and then getting his sixpack from the Catholic Irish-run liquor store downtown.
 
2013-05-25 12:13:38 PM  
Can think of worse ways to go.
 
2013-05-25 12:45:17 PM  
I think someone misunderstood the term 'gangbang'.
 
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